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France, like many country (including Spain, a number of former colonies, and until recently Belgium), possess two main police force, a civil one, the Police Nationale, focused on big aglomeration, and a military one, the Gendarmerie. They each have geographic competency over their own non overlapping areas of the french territory, wiht the first one having competency over roughly half the population and 5% of the territory (but including all the big cities), while the other one has competency on, well, what's left.
However, only the Police Nationale is mentionned in the Wikipedia page. I wonder if the reason for such an omission might be because, as a part of the French Military, the Gendarmerie uses the same ranks as the other componants of the French Military, while Police Nationale ranks are both more specific and a bit more messy (as the realtion between the Officer corp and the Commissaire corp is not a strict hierarchic one).
Though, in an absence of any voices raised against it, I'm going to do what was done for the Spain section and add the Gendarmerie ranks to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.92.249.207 ( talk) 22:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm in no way expert on the subject, but I would think, as probably other common readers, that "rank" is not "ranking", even in the context of police language; more precisely that while "ranking" means "system of grading" (as a noun) or "assigning a grade" (as a verb), the term "rank" in itself is just a synonym of grade. Any clarification would be welcome. If my perception is right, then this article defines "ranking", not "rank" and we should rename it (at least). -- Gennaro Prota 19:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see it updated as something more specific, probably retitled and with a new introduction. Also, this isn't a list, it's really a category and should be defined as such, shouldn't it be? TaylorSAllen 02:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I think some discussion should be on general ranks of policemen - officer, corporal, sergeant, lieutenant, captain, etc. -- AW 21:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I am no expert in this area but it would appear that the rank insignia displayed for Comissioner and Deputy Comissioner in the UK police section are the wrong way round. The lower rank shows two pips while the higher rank shows only one. This goes against the logical progression of "more pips/stars/crowns/wreaths" etc signifying a higher rank....? Can anyone confirm/correct? ColourSarge 11:20, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I know, it seems hard to believe that the Deputy Commissioner has the rank insignia of a Deputy Chief Constable, Inspector and a Superintendent when the Commissioner only has the insignia of a Deputy Chief Constable and a Superintendent with 1 of the Inspector's Order of the Bath's. This is right and is confirmed in this image I found whilst searching the net.. showing former Commissioner Lord Stevens with former PM Tony Blair wearing his uniform confirming the insignia of the Met Police Commissioner: [1]. -- PoliceChief ( talk) 18:30, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
The anonymous user 96.229.234.134 re-added the following after I removed it:
The whole section is nonsensical and has nothing to do with police ranks in the US. Could the contributor please state a rationale why this section should be kept? Otherwise I will remove it again. Thank you. – Adrian Lozano ( talk) 22:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Agree with Adrian Lozano, passage is nonsensical and it does not have anything to do with US police ranks. Police,Mad,Jack ( talk · contribs)☺ 16:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
What US police departments use these ranks? 75.164.208.19 ( talk) 02:36, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
a) I recommend to delete the whole section and give just basic information instead. As Germany has 17 different Police agencies (1 federal and 16 of each state), the comparison of ranks or funcions is not plausible.
b) German "Kommissar" was translated as "commissioner", but is not equal to the English term.
c) Facing military cooperation in international missions, following equivalents were used or are being used:
Polizei(ober-,haupt-)meister - Sergeant;
(Polizei)Kommissar - Lieutenant; (Polizei)Oberkommissar - (First) Lieutenant; (Polizei)Hauptkommissar - (Police) Captain; Erster (Polizei)Hauptkommissar - (Senior)Captain;
Polizeirat - (Police) Major; Polizeioberrat - (Police) LtCol; Polizeidirektor - (Police) Colonel; Lt. Polizeidirektor - (Police) Colonel
d) List of German Police Ranks (in general) from lowest to highest (Police officers of investigations department, similar to detectives, are named "Kriminal-" instead of "Polizei-" in their respective ranks; only trained police officers can join ID via further training - no candidate rank in ID)
Polizeimeisteranwärter (=candidate rank); Polizeimeister; Polizeiobermeister; Polizeihauptmeister; Polizeihauptmeister (mit Zulage)
Polizeikommissaranwärter (=candidate rank); Polizeikommissar; Polizeioberkommissar; Polizeihauptkommissar; Erster Polizeihauptkommissar
Polizeiratanwärter(=candidate rank); Polizeirat; Polizeioberrat; Polizeidirektor; Leitender Polizeidirektor;
Highest ranking staff (equivalent to Generals)
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I--I just made a giant contribuition on Brazil, and someone deleted all important things I written on? Can you admins please prevent from hapenning again? I take about one hour writing the first time!
I removed the following [Roblox.com/MrMan368/Group/:8765577588.RBLX.com MrMan368] from Cyprus. Can someone please help me restore the Greek name for the Chief of Police. Creuzbourg ( talk) 17:02, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
@ Skjoldbro: and @ Creuzbourg: since you two and myself seem to be the most prolific editors on this page, I suggest we discuss how to standardise how we represent ranks and in doing so declutter the article. My main suggestions are as follows:
I look forward to your input. - Cdjp1 ( talk) 10:23, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Another point: I think we should avoid using the terms commissioned, non-commissioned and enlisted unless its specifically used by the Police Force in question. I do belive RCMP are using the two first terms, but its not used by Surete Quebec; therefore applying it to SQ denotes a rank structure that does not exist in real life. As far as possible we should use the structure used by the Police Force itself, like under Andorra.
For the many Police Forces that are part of the military, I would prefer the terms 'Officers' and 'Others', with further subdivisions as per the actual rank structure. Creuzbourg ( talk) 12:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Someone did the dumbest choice of literally deleting around 4000 characters on Brazil. WHY? "Source" I'm literally Brazilian, you can find those "sources" in any Brazilian site that is officially owned by the government and Police forces. But if you're lazy to try and read Portuguese then don't ruin an entire section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:3D5C:27:C401:5D50:5B44:9B72:9A35 ( talk) 19:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Please don't do that again. I and other Brazilians worked hard in detailing our Police section for MONTHS and you deleted EVERYTHING in a single day. I undid this revision. That could be easily classed as vandalism since it is the work over the course of months with around 3,537 characters of information about ALL our Police forces. Please refrain from ever doing something like that again or I will be forced to report you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:3D5C:27:C401:5D50:5B44:9B72:9A35 ( talk) 19:21, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
@ BrazilianNormalGuy: I am wondering why you keep on insisting on having this wall of text for Brazil. The purpose of this page is to provide the reader with (at best) a short description of the ranks and its system, and the ranks themselves. That's it. If we include every single piece of information on this page, it would be impressible to navigate, with 200 countries all having 500–1000 words connected to them. This is why you don't see any other entry on this list having so much text. If you feel that this information is important, move it to pages such as Law enforcement in Brazil where it is more relevant. Skjoldbro ( talk) 07:04, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
The Polícia Judicial, Judiciary Police, works at civilian infrationsis important to understanding that the Brazilian Police has a Major? Again, you are not understanding the purpose of this page. There should only bee images and some supporting/clarifying text if necessary. All the Brazil text is not this. That text is WP:UNDUE, WP:UNSOURCED and goes against the currently established WP:Consensus. As such, I am going to remove it again. Like I said before, if you feel like this is important, move to a more relevant page or get Consensus on this talk page before re-adding it. Skjoldbro ( talk) 07:14, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Put yourselves in my place. I spent hours and hours making individual edits to benefit the view on my country that is already corrupt, fucked up, and that can get us killed at any moment in certain states. Now all those hours go to trash just because someone decided there isn't an option to just NOT read this section and didn't consider we, Brazilians, deserve some credits for our Police forces? BrazilianNormalGuy ( talk)— Preceding undated comment added 14:02, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
For the correct, official translation of the Austrian police ranks see the following link: https://www.gemeinsamsicher.at/downloads/Polizeiglossar_3.0.pdf, page 115 -- Der Polizist ( talk) 13:55, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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France, like many country (including Spain, a number of former colonies, and until recently Belgium), possess two main police force, a civil one, the Police Nationale, focused on big aglomeration, and a military one, the Gendarmerie. They each have geographic competency over their own non overlapping areas of the french territory, wiht the first one having competency over roughly half the population and 5% of the territory (but including all the big cities), while the other one has competency on, well, what's left.
However, only the Police Nationale is mentionned in the Wikipedia page. I wonder if the reason for such an omission might be because, as a part of the French Military, the Gendarmerie uses the same ranks as the other componants of the French Military, while Police Nationale ranks are both more specific and a bit more messy (as the realtion between the Officer corp and the Commissaire corp is not a strict hierarchic one).
Though, in an absence of any voices raised against it, I'm going to do what was done for the Spain section and add the Gendarmerie ranks to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.92.249.207 ( talk) 22:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm in no way expert on the subject, but I would think, as probably other common readers, that "rank" is not "ranking", even in the context of police language; more precisely that while "ranking" means "system of grading" (as a noun) or "assigning a grade" (as a verb), the term "rank" in itself is just a synonym of grade. Any clarification would be welcome. If my perception is right, then this article defines "ranking", not "rank" and we should rename it (at least). -- Gennaro Prota 19:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see it updated as something more specific, probably retitled and with a new introduction. Also, this isn't a list, it's really a category and should be defined as such, shouldn't it be? TaylorSAllen 02:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I think some discussion should be on general ranks of policemen - officer, corporal, sergeant, lieutenant, captain, etc. -- AW 21:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I am no expert in this area but it would appear that the rank insignia displayed for Comissioner and Deputy Comissioner in the UK police section are the wrong way round. The lower rank shows two pips while the higher rank shows only one. This goes against the logical progression of "more pips/stars/crowns/wreaths" etc signifying a higher rank....? Can anyone confirm/correct? ColourSarge 11:20, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I know, it seems hard to believe that the Deputy Commissioner has the rank insignia of a Deputy Chief Constable, Inspector and a Superintendent when the Commissioner only has the insignia of a Deputy Chief Constable and a Superintendent with 1 of the Inspector's Order of the Bath's. This is right and is confirmed in this image I found whilst searching the net.. showing former Commissioner Lord Stevens with former PM Tony Blair wearing his uniform confirming the insignia of the Met Police Commissioner: [1]. -- PoliceChief ( talk) 18:30, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
The anonymous user 96.229.234.134 re-added the following after I removed it:
The whole section is nonsensical and has nothing to do with police ranks in the US. Could the contributor please state a rationale why this section should be kept? Otherwise I will remove it again. Thank you. – Adrian Lozano ( talk) 22:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Agree with Adrian Lozano, passage is nonsensical and it does not have anything to do with US police ranks. Police,Mad,Jack ( talk · contribs)☺ 16:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
What US police departments use these ranks? 75.164.208.19 ( talk) 02:36, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
a) I recommend to delete the whole section and give just basic information instead. As Germany has 17 different Police agencies (1 federal and 16 of each state), the comparison of ranks or funcions is not plausible.
b) German "Kommissar" was translated as "commissioner", but is not equal to the English term.
c) Facing military cooperation in international missions, following equivalents were used or are being used:
Polizei(ober-,haupt-)meister - Sergeant;
(Polizei)Kommissar - Lieutenant; (Polizei)Oberkommissar - (First) Lieutenant; (Polizei)Hauptkommissar - (Police) Captain; Erster (Polizei)Hauptkommissar - (Senior)Captain;
Polizeirat - (Police) Major; Polizeioberrat - (Police) LtCol; Polizeidirektor - (Police) Colonel; Lt. Polizeidirektor - (Police) Colonel
d) List of German Police Ranks (in general) from lowest to highest (Police officers of investigations department, similar to detectives, are named "Kriminal-" instead of "Polizei-" in their respective ranks; only trained police officers can join ID via further training - no candidate rank in ID)
Polizeimeisteranwärter (=candidate rank); Polizeimeister; Polizeiobermeister; Polizeihauptmeister; Polizeihauptmeister (mit Zulage)
Polizeikommissaranwärter (=candidate rank); Polizeikommissar; Polizeioberkommissar; Polizeihauptkommissar; Erster Polizeihauptkommissar
Polizeiratanwärter(=candidate rank); Polizeirat; Polizeioberrat; Polizeidirektor; Leitender Polizeidirektor;
Highest ranking staff (equivalent to Generals)
Polizeivizepräsident; (Inspekteur); Polizeipräsident; —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.113.106.151 ( talk) 01:16, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
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I--I just made a giant contribuition on Brazil, and someone deleted all important things I written on? Can you admins please prevent from hapenning again? I take about one hour writing the first time!
I removed the following [Roblox.com/MrMan368/Group/:8765577588.RBLX.com MrMan368] from Cyprus. Can someone please help me restore the Greek name for the Chief of Police. Creuzbourg ( talk) 17:02, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
@ Skjoldbro: and @ Creuzbourg: since you two and myself seem to be the most prolific editors on this page, I suggest we discuss how to standardise how we represent ranks and in doing so declutter the article. My main suggestions are as follows:
I look forward to your input. - Cdjp1 ( talk) 10:23, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Another point: I think we should avoid using the terms commissioned, non-commissioned and enlisted unless its specifically used by the Police Force in question. I do belive RCMP are using the two first terms, but its not used by Surete Quebec; therefore applying it to SQ denotes a rank structure that does not exist in real life. As far as possible we should use the structure used by the Police Force itself, like under Andorra.
For the many Police Forces that are part of the military, I would prefer the terms 'Officers' and 'Others', with further subdivisions as per the actual rank structure. Creuzbourg ( talk) 12:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Someone did the dumbest choice of literally deleting around 4000 characters on Brazil. WHY? "Source" I'm literally Brazilian, you can find those "sources" in any Brazilian site that is officially owned by the government and Police forces. But if you're lazy to try and read Portuguese then don't ruin an entire section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:3D5C:27:C401:5D50:5B44:9B72:9A35 ( talk) 19:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Please don't do that again. I and other Brazilians worked hard in detailing our Police section for MONTHS and you deleted EVERYTHING in a single day. I undid this revision. That could be easily classed as vandalism since it is the work over the course of months with around 3,537 characters of information about ALL our Police forces. Please refrain from ever doing something like that again or I will be forced to report you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:3D5C:27:C401:5D50:5B44:9B72:9A35 ( talk) 19:21, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
@ BrazilianNormalGuy: I am wondering why you keep on insisting on having this wall of text for Brazil. The purpose of this page is to provide the reader with (at best) a short description of the ranks and its system, and the ranks themselves. That's it. If we include every single piece of information on this page, it would be impressible to navigate, with 200 countries all having 500–1000 words connected to them. This is why you don't see any other entry on this list having so much text. If you feel that this information is important, move it to pages such as Law enforcement in Brazil where it is more relevant. Skjoldbro ( talk) 07:04, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
The Polícia Judicial, Judiciary Police, works at civilian infrationsis important to understanding that the Brazilian Police has a Major? Again, you are not understanding the purpose of this page. There should only bee images and some supporting/clarifying text if necessary. All the Brazil text is not this. That text is WP:UNDUE, WP:UNSOURCED and goes against the currently established WP:Consensus. As such, I am going to remove it again. Like I said before, if you feel like this is important, move to a more relevant page or get Consensus on this talk page before re-adding it. Skjoldbro ( talk) 07:14, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Put yourselves in my place. I spent hours and hours making individual edits to benefit the view on my country that is already corrupt, fucked up, and that can get us killed at any moment in certain states. Now all those hours go to trash just because someone decided there isn't an option to just NOT read this section and didn't consider we, Brazilians, deserve some credits for our Police forces? BrazilianNormalGuy ( talk)— Preceding undated comment added 14:02, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
For the correct, official translation of the Austrian police ranks see the following link: https://www.gemeinsamsicher.at/downloads/Polizeiglossar_3.0.pdf, page 115 -- Der Polizist ( talk) 13:55, 26 August 2021 (UTC)