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I think that we should ditch the classification by century, since the dividing lines are artificial. For instance, most of Isaac Newton's work was done in the late 17th century, and he contributed to the 18th. Might I suggest that we go either for a straight chronological order (by birth, or death but pick one) or alphabetical by last name. If we decide not to ditch the century categories, at least order the names within the categories. --BlackGriffen— Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.123.179.188 ( talk) 15:43, 25 February 2002 (UTC)
How long do we want this list to be? Is Carl-Gustav Arvid Rossby a physicist? He's usually thought of as a meteorologist. List could get very long. Cutler 17:16, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
begin from Talk:List of best physicists
This seems like a silly idea for an article. I don't think 'best of' or 'top 100' lists belong in an encyclopedia.
Totally POV. -- Zoe
Much as it's a very interesting topic, this (the whole article) is not a suitable one for an encyclopedia, as there is no possible way to define "best" without taking a point of view, and even ignoring this, it's difficult to imagine a way to apportion merit.
Take it to the proper place - a web discussion forum - and I, like many others, will be only too happy to join in. Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. Tannin 01:52 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)
yeah, "whos best" is just a bungled way of saying "most famous", though fame isnt encyclopedic whatsoever either. Or maybe it is...maybe a list of "physicists" would somehow have to do with their work being known.
what a thought, so fame is relevant in an encyclopaedia! -- But (big but), only as a byproduct of accomplishment. Ac-comp-lish-ment. Accomplishment. I agree with Zoe, Tannin, and all the other sensible people... nix the 'ticle.- Stevert
Strange POV you have about the world of physics, I guess. A simple list of physicists does not help me much. If then such is a matter why don't we find any physicists from, let us say, Sierra Leone here? I agree what Tokeboy said -- only one thing about useless. Landau tried to do a job -- as it is so impossible. But since this seems like discussion forum I'll stop argueing. -- XJamRastafire
good point. in that case, your energies are saying "the physicists article isnt organised in a way which makes sense to me," and to this i suggest that you boldly reorganise it in a logical way. perhaps by date, since scientific accomplishments tend to rely on previous ones.. - Stevert
end from Talk:List of best physicists—Preceding undated comment added by MartinHarper ( talk • contribs) 11:03, 24 July 2003 (UTC)
Despite previous efforts there seems to be no consistent sorting/grouping happing on this page. Actually, it appears to be more or less alphabetically sorted within century, but which century someone gets placed in is not consistent. I say we ditch the chronological ordering and go with a straight alphabetical listing. This would at least be consistent with the List of mathematicians. Any takers? -- Fropuff 20:30, 2004 Mar 15 (UTC)
i don't believe that there have been no living physicists whose surnames begin with A! Lkcl ( talk) 12:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Some dates were given in BCE format rather than BC. I've changed them all to BC for the simple reason that apart from people in the USA and Canada not many people really know what BCE means; it is hardly used outside North America. So this is not a political or POV statement, it is merely using terminology that the majority of people recognise. If BCE ever supplants BC as the dominant style then that would be the time to change - I would humbly suggest. See Anno Domini for a discussion of this. Arcturus 19:08, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Somebody changed Einstein from
Albert Einstein — Germany, Switzerland, USA ( 1879– 1955
to
Albert Einstein — German-born Jewish ( 1879– 1955).
I think the first was better. We don't write
Isaac Newton — English born Christian (1642–1727)
Happy to discus though. -- Bucephalus talk to me 20:37, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Somebody has added Lance Boyer, a red link. Fine if he is a real and notable physicist who will, in the long run, get an article, but I can't find any verification. Google is not helpful. Can anyone provide a source showing this person exists. I've left it in for now. -- Bucephalus 17:15, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
I notice that not even all the physics Nobelists with existing articles are listed here. When I have a chance, I'll add some more. We should try to make a more complete list if we're going to have the article at all. Which raises the question, why isn't this a category instead? Alison Chaiken 05:53, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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can we make a timeline list here? and then sort either alphabetically or by time? does wikipedia already have a tool to support this kind of sorting? 216.80.119.92 ( talk) 02:40, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
it does have: List_of_countries_by_population 216.80.119.92 ( talk) 23:36, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
that would solve the Missing_physicists problem, as placing a cat tag on their pages would do the work. 216.80.119.92 ( talk) 02:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm moving here a note added to the article by Fredkinfollower ( talk · contribs), since I think it merits discussion. Also, it's currently commented out and likely to be overlooked by most readers and editors of the article itself.
“ | NOTE: Nobel laureates should be marked. Wolf laureates who have not won Nobel prizes should be marked. All other prizes should not be marked. This list is for famous physicists only. This list should not be a directory of physicists. An entry for a contemporary physicist who is not at the level of a Nobel or Wolf laureate should probably be deleted. | ” |
I don't have any problem with marking prize recipients (perhaps with superscript symbols after their names, which might be easier to spot?), and we do need to determine selection criteria for the list. However, I think including only Nobel or Wolf laureates (or people likely to become Nobel or Wolf laureates) is too limiting. If nothing else, such lists already exist, at List of Nobel laureates in Physics (a featured list) and Wolf Prize in Physics.
In addition to Nobel and Wolf laureates, I think recipients of other notable awards merit inclusion, for instance the Sakurai Prize in theoretical particle physics and comparable awards in other fields. I would also be inclined to include Fellows of the American Physical Society and others who have received comparable recognition. Would we be able to get any guidance on selection criteria from List of mathematicians, List of statisticians, or other similar articles? - David Schaich Talk/ Cont 22:16, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
As it is criteria for the place of birth to write just nowadays country I deliberately changed place of birth for Nikola Tesla (it was totally wrong and false "Serbia", as we know he was born in Lika, Croatia) and for Rudjer Boskovic (it was written Dubrovnik, that is a city as we know it is in Croatia) into Croatia as places of birth for those two scientists. Please, I appeal to you to prevent false and malicious, politically motivated abuses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavlemocilac ( talk • contribs) 23:48, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
I added John's name to the list and someone logged on simply to delete the entry. Should people who contributed to physics early in life but went on to other careers later on be included in the list? Why or why not? Sparaig2 ( talk) 15:38, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
I would like to recommend Le Bon due to his Book about "The evolution of matter" (wherein he talks about the physics of atoms of and the electrons of electricity without reference to Einstein (Published 1905). WFPM ( talk) 01:57, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
What kind of an idiotic joke was this? Bob Lazar was listed in a list of physicists?
That was either vandalism to the page or advances the utter lack of credibility of Wikipedia. Or both. 75.32.60.106 ( talk) 02:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Areas - Quantum Physics - Cosmology— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.174.241.153 ( talk) 17:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Female Jewish cosmologist living in Venice with theory on the Universe as a wave function, she was in BBC Horizon Programme about edge theories in physics and cosmology which is no longer available.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.174.241.153 ( talk) 17:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
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I think that we should ditch the classification by century, since the dividing lines are artificial. For instance, most of Isaac Newton's work was done in the late 17th century, and he contributed to the 18th. Might I suggest that we go either for a straight chronological order (by birth, or death but pick one) or alphabetical by last name. If we decide not to ditch the century categories, at least order the names within the categories. --BlackGriffen— Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.123.179.188 ( talk) 15:43, 25 February 2002 (UTC)
How long do we want this list to be? Is Carl-Gustav Arvid Rossby a physicist? He's usually thought of as a meteorologist. List could get very long. Cutler 17:16, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
begin from Talk:List of best physicists
This seems like a silly idea for an article. I don't think 'best of' or 'top 100' lists belong in an encyclopedia.
Totally POV. -- Zoe
Much as it's a very interesting topic, this (the whole article) is not a suitable one for an encyclopedia, as there is no possible way to define "best" without taking a point of view, and even ignoring this, it's difficult to imagine a way to apportion merit.
Take it to the proper place - a web discussion forum - and I, like many others, will be only too happy to join in. Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. Tannin 01:52 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)
yeah, "whos best" is just a bungled way of saying "most famous", though fame isnt encyclopedic whatsoever either. Or maybe it is...maybe a list of "physicists" would somehow have to do with their work being known.
what a thought, so fame is relevant in an encyclopaedia! -- But (big but), only as a byproduct of accomplishment. Ac-comp-lish-ment. Accomplishment. I agree with Zoe, Tannin, and all the other sensible people... nix the 'ticle.- Stevert
Strange POV you have about the world of physics, I guess. A simple list of physicists does not help me much. If then such is a matter why don't we find any physicists from, let us say, Sierra Leone here? I agree what Tokeboy said -- only one thing about useless. Landau tried to do a job -- as it is so impossible. But since this seems like discussion forum I'll stop argueing. -- XJamRastafire
good point. in that case, your energies are saying "the physicists article isnt organised in a way which makes sense to me," and to this i suggest that you boldly reorganise it in a logical way. perhaps by date, since scientific accomplishments tend to rely on previous ones.. - Stevert
end from Talk:List of best physicists—Preceding undated comment added by MartinHarper ( talk • contribs) 11:03, 24 July 2003 (UTC)
Despite previous efforts there seems to be no consistent sorting/grouping happing on this page. Actually, it appears to be more or less alphabetically sorted within century, but which century someone gets placed in is not consistent. I say we ditch the chronological ordering and go with a straight alphabetical listing. This would at least be consistent with the List of mathematicians. Any takers? -- Fropuff 20:30, 2004 Mar 15 (UTC)
i don't believe that there have been no living physicists whose surnames begin with A! Lkcl ( talk) 12:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Some dates were given in BCE format rather than BC. I've changed them all to BC for the simple reason that apart from people in the USA and Canada not many people really know what BCE means; it is hardly used outside North America. So this is not a political or POV statement, it is merely using terminology that the majority of people recognise. If BCE ever supplants BC as the dominant style then that would be the time to change - I would humbly suggest. See Anno Domini for a discussion of this. Arcturus 19:08, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Somebody changed Einstein from
Albert Einstein — Germany, Switzerland, USA ( 1879– 1955
to
Albert Einstein — German-born Jewish ( 1879– 1955).
I think the first was better. We don't write
Isaac Newton — English born Christian (1642–1727)
Happy to discus though. -- Bucephalus talk to me 20:37, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Somebody has added Lance Boyer, a red link. Fine if he is a real and notable physicist who will, in the long run, get an article, but I can't find any verification. Google is not helpful. Can anyone provide a source showing this person exists. I've left it in for now. -- Bucephalus 17:15, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
I notice that not even all the physics Nobelists with existing articles are listed here. When I have a chance, I'll add some more. We should try to make a more complete list if we're going to have the article at all. Which raises the question, why isn't this a category instead? Alison Chaiken 05:53, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 09:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
can we make a timeline list here? and then sort either alphabetically or by time? does wikipedia already have a tool to support this kind of sorting? 216.80.119.92 ( talk) 02:40, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
it does have: List_of_countries_by_population 216.80.119.92 ( talk) 23:36, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
that would solve the Missing_physicists problem, as placing a cat tag on their pages would do the work. 216.80.119.92 ( talk) 02:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm moving here a note added to the article by Fredkinfollower ( talk · contribs), since I think it merits discussion. Also, it's currently commented out and likely to be overlooked by most readers and editors of the article itself.
“ | NOTE: Nobel laureates should be marked. Wolf laureates who have not won Nobel prizes should be marked. All other prizes should not be marked. This list is for famous physicists only. This list should not be a directory of physicists. An entry for a contemporary physicist who is not at the level of a Nobel or Wolf laureate should probably be deleted. | ” |
I don't have any problem with marking prize recipients (perhaps with superscript symbols after their names, which might be easier to spot?), and we do need to determine selection criteria for the list. However, I think including only Nobel or Wolf laureates (or people likely to become Nobel or Wolf laureates) is too limiting. If nothing else, such lists already exist, at List of Nobel laureates in Physics (a featured list) and Wolf Prize in Physics.
In addition to Nobel and Wolf laureates, I think recipients of other notable awards merit inclusion, for instance the Sakurai Prize in theoretical particle physics and comparable awards in other fields. I would also be inclined to include Fellows of the American Physical Society and others who have received comparable recognition. Would we be able to get any guidance on selection criteria from List of mathematicians, List of statisticians, or other similar articles? - David Schaich Talk/ Cont 22:16, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
As it is criteria for the place of birth to write just nowadays country I deliberately changed place of birth for Nikola Tesla (it was totally wrong and false "Serbia", as we know he was born in Lika, Croatia) and for Rudjer Boskovic (it was written Dubrovnik, that is a city as we know it is in Croatia) into Croatia as places of birth for those two scientists. Please, I appeal to you to prevent false and malicious, politically motivated abuses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavlemocilac ( talk • contribs) 23:48, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
I added John's name to the list and someone logged on simply to delete the entry. Should people who contributed to physics early in life but went on to other careers later on be included in the list? Why or why not? Sparaig2 ( talk) 15:38, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
I would like to recommend Le Bon due to his Book about "The evolution of matter" (wherein he talks about the physics of atoms of and the electrons of electricity without reference to Einstein (Published 1905). WFPM ( talk) 01:57, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
What kind of an idiotic joke was this? Bob Lazar was listed in a list of physicists?
That was either vandalism to the page or advances the utter lack of credibility of Wikipedia. Or both. 75.32.60.106 ( talk) 02:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Areas - Quantum Physics - Cosmology— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.174.241.153 ( talk) 17:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Female Jewish cosmologist living in Venice with theory on the Universe as a wave function, she was in BBC Horizon Programme about edge theories in physics and cosmology which is no longer available.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.174.241.153 ( talk) 17:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
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