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—Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.168.102.111 ( talk) 02:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
In my most recent attempt to clean up list, individual whom this subject is named for was removed because they obviously do not meet the criterea set forth in WP:SALAT, and do not meet WP:N requirements to warrant their own article. Just because the individual is a founder of group X which is based in California does not warrant the person's inclusion in this list.
The wikipedia editor who readded the individual stated that because they don't warrant their own article but are connected to an organization that does meet notability requirements that does warrant its own article does they should be included in this list. If this were the case, and set forth as the standard, the number of individuals that could be added to this list and like list would grow with increased activism event if said activism is one event covered by a reliable source. In my humble opinion, this should not be the new standard, and thus Richard Gage still does not meet the guideline as set forth by WP:SALAT.
I would much rather reach a compromise or consensus rather than getting into an editting war, and look forward to a fruitful discussion from editors on this issue.
A possible compromise is that the group which Richard Gage is associated with, and other groups and businesses who are founded or headquartered in California can be added to the list as is the case with the bands which are now listed in the subsection Groups of people. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 09:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I would keep it simple and use solely individuals who warrant their own biography. Drop the groups section, and drop individuals who are a redirect, or are only mentioned in an article directly about them. Looking at Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists#Lists of people and through some of the existing Wikipedia:Featured lists I didn't see any about people where it included groups as well. - Optigan13 ( talk) 07:31, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
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That was just done. Is it a new rule? If we do that, we will delete nearly the entire list. User:JohnFromPinckney made an edit, ignored an add without a ref, and then deleted the next add without a ref. I'm confused. Do we just not delete those adds we like, like football players?-- 2603:7000:2143:8500:1956:8532:BE28:4ED3 ( talk) 04:38, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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Using the word "notable" in titles brings a lot more clarity. If someone would be willing to put in the work to move them all, that would be great... For instance, List of people from Los Angeles -> List of notable people from Los Angeles... Amyipdev ( talk) 04:42, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
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—Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.168.102.111 ( talk) 02:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
In my most recent attempt to clean up list, individual whom this subject is named for was removed because they obviously do not meet the criterea set forth in WP:SALAT, and do not meet WP:N requirements to warrant their own article. Just because the individual is a founder of group X which is based in California does not warrant the person's inclusion in this list.
The wikipedia editor who readded the individual stated that because they don't warrant their own article but are connected to an organization that does meet notability requirements that does warrant its own article does they should be included in this list. If this were the case, and set forth as the standard, the number of individuals that could be added to this list and like list would grow with increased activism event if said activism is one event covered by a reliable source. In my humble opinion, this should not be the new standard, and thus Richard Gage still does not meet the guideline as set forth by WP:SALAT.
I would much rather reach a compromise or consensus rather than getting into an editting war, and look forward to a fruitful discussion from editors on this issue.
A possible compromise is that the group which Richard Gage is associated with, and other groups and businesses who are founded or headquartered in California can be added to the list as is the case with the bands which are now listed in the subsection Groups of people. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 09:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I would keep it simple and use solely individuals who warrant their own biography. Drop the groups section, and drop individuals who are a redirect, or are only mentioned in an article directly about them. Looking at Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists#Lists of people and through some of the existing Wikipedia:Featured lists I didn't see any about people where it included groups as well. - Optigan13 ( talk) 07:31, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
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That was just done. Is it a new rule? If we do that, we will delete nearly the entire list. User:JohnFromPinckney made an edit, ignored an add without a ref, and then deleted the next add without a ref. I'm confused. Do we just not delete those adds we like, like football players?-- 2603:7000:2143:8500:1956:8532:BE28:4ED3 ( talk) 04:38, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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Benjamin Epicure and has thus listed it
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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 7#Benjamin Epicure until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Whpq (
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18:39, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Using the word "notable" in titles brings a lot more clarity. If someone would be willing to put in the work to move them all, that would be great... For instance, List of people from Los Angeles -> List of notable people from Los Angeles... Amyipdev ( talk) 04:42, 13 April 2023 (UTC)