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The UK has 6 legal deposit libraries, not just the British Library. Seeing as legal deposit library links to national library, they ought to be included in this list.
Nice list, but I would like to see foundation dates for each library listed as well. -- Ghirla -трёп- 09:41, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone enlighten on just what "Tenable time" and "Year stops" are supposed to mean in this instance? The year of the library's founding, and its closure?-- Huaiwei 01:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The article reads, Some of the first libraries were national libraries; for example, the Library of Alexandria was the national library of Ptolemaic Egypt. This is incorrect as it is anachronistic. Egypt, at any time before the mid-twentieth century, wasn't a nation and therefore couldn't have a national library. The concept of "nation" implied in the expression "national library" emerged no earlier than the late-eighteenth century - proof of it is that de facto national libraries such as the British and US Congress libraries are not termed "national libraries". 189.33.13.5 06:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Found this in the IFLA newsletter June 2007 [1] Help needed: Directory of National Libraries on Wikipedia The Standing Committee has discussed the creation of a Directory of national libraries worldwide, taking into account existing lists such as that maintained by the European Library Service for the national libraries of Europe members of CENL (Conference of European National Librarians). We have now learned that a worldwide list exists on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_libraries We think this is an excellent basis for developing a list: since it is open each country may add its national library details and maintain them, thus avoiding setting up another infrastructure. We encourage you therefore to check your country’s national library (and other) details on this site and update – or create - entries as required. Please let us know your comments on the entries and help maintain an up-to-date list. As an example, the reference staff of the Swiss National Library ensure that the Swiss entry is accurate and up-to-date as part of their general information service mission. Thank you for your input! Houshuang ( talk) 00:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
After the initial suggestion above and a discussion at the 2007 IFLA Annual Conference in Durban (South Africa), the Standing Committee mandated an external consultant to study the various options available to establish a comprehensive directory of national libraries. Out of eight different possible options, the analysis retained two, among which was Wikipedia, which were submitted to the vote of the Standing Committee. Wikipedia was chosen with two thirds of the expressed votes. The Standing Committee warmly thanks the contributors to this list as having provided an invaluable basis for its directory and will be active in promoting and completing it. I (the external consultant and current holder of this account) suggest the following changes and developments to both the Wikipedia community and the IFLA-NLS Standing Committee:
When the English version has reached a satisfactory state of maturity (which it almost already does), there is the objective of reproducing and adapt it in the other official languages of IFLA: Arabic, Chinese, French, German, Russian and Spanish, with the help of IFLA Resource Centres and/or national libraries using these languages.
Comments and suggestions are welcome until June 22nd 2008, after which I’ll start working according to the suggested, and maybe amended, line of action.
IFLA-nls-en ( talk) 13:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC) - Amendment about names: IFLA-nls-en ( talk) 16:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Additions and subtractions to this list welcome. - kotra ( talk) 17:34, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
In the table, there is a "Tenable time" column and, below "Quantity", a "Year stops" column. What do these mean? Is "Tenable time" the foundation date, and "Year stops" the year of the most recent item in their collection? This is unclear. - kotra ( talk) 13:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia:Naming_conventions, library names should be in English in their main entry and in their individual pages that are linked from this page. I started to apply this general policy using in priority the English name used by the library itself or, if not available, a direct translation (with one case pending - Brunei - because of the special/unclear status of the NL). I met 2 cases (done A-F only yet) where there would have been a double redirect, i.e. the page was under the original name and there was a redirect from the English name. In the first case (Austrian National Library), I just put a note on the discussion page and the swap was performed by someone else within 24h. In the second case, the Bibliothèque nationale de France, I felt it could be more controversial and put the proposal for change on Wikipedia:Move_requests. Comments, by the way given by non-French people only (so, no chauvinism involved), were against that move. They basically all said that the English name was inappropriate or even ridiculous. As a French speaker myself, I cannot appreciate the 'penetration' of the BnF's own name. On the other hand, its website does not, as far as I could see, display a name in English. In addition, I must admit that labelling the British Library on the French Wikipedia as 'Bibliothèque britannique' would sound quite daft, so I quite understand the points raised. I'm now stuck with my homogeneization idea because if France gets its library name in its original language, why not the others? Clpda ( talk) 00:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
These currently unused sections should exist, I think. While there may not be anything in them at the moment, there may be in the future. According to List of countries, there are countries starting with W and Y. X should probably stay removed, though, since there is no country or territory starting with X. - kotra ( talk) 21:46, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
If I am correct there is a NL in the US called the National Library of Education ( see site), which is famous for ERIC ( Education Resources Information Center). The wikipedia article on ERIC ignores this and claims it is run by the Institute of Education Sciences. Are we missing an important US national library? DGtal ( talk) 08:46, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
The work done on this list has been welcomed by IFLA (both from the National Libraries Section and Headquarters). In my view, after the research I've done, the list can be considered complete with the following (non-essential) exceptions:
IFLA will consider this list as a reference and promote it as such. Its own (outdated and less complete) list may remain for libraries having neither an individual page nor a website.
About 95% of the national libraries listed here have been (or are going to be soon - there are two rounds planned) personally informed of the existence of the list by IFLA and requested to check it, provide data where needed, and create or complete their individual page, including the Infobox Library. Among other advice, their attention has been / will be specifically drawn to WP:NPOV and WP:COI. The results will show in a few weeks or months. The editors' scrutiny, welcome all the time of course, is definitely requested for the months to come!
Given this evolution, I think this article is a reasonable candidate for moving from grade B to grade GA within the WikiProject Education. Clpda ( talk) 16:54, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
This list is currently organised according to the late List of countries which has recently disappeared, changed into a disambiguation page leading to all sorts of countries lists. The reference at least should be changed and, preferably in my view, the order and layout of entries as well. The main reference now seems to be the List of sovereign states, which includes dependent territories as sub-items. I'm ready to rearrange this list according to the order of the List of sovereign states if most of the other editors contributing to it agree with this change. Clpda ( talk) 12:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
In 1927 a number of research libraries in Denmark organized a voluntary division of labour on acquisition of foreign books. This arrangement, termed subject-division, means that many Danish research libraries undertook special obligations as main subject libraries. They made their collections of foreign literature available to users in the whole country and played a role as documentation and information centres (reference: Jørgen Svane-Mikkelsen: The library system in Denmark , Copenhagen 1997). Some of these libraries carried / or still carries the title "national" in their names (National Library of Education, National Library of Agriculture, National Library for Science and Medicine); even they were de facto not national libraries. In the it-age, this system is fading out.
The National Library in Denmark is Det Kongelige Bibliotek, Royal Danish Library in cooperation and division of labour with the State and University Library. These two libraries cooperate about legal deposit and national library obligations. The obligation as national library is stated in the Annual State Budget and (for example) in the official library statistics, published by Danish National Library Authority, reference: [6] Billelar ( talk) 15 January 2009 —Preceding undated comment was added at 21:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC).
User:Muzi added state libraries to the Australian entry. I question their national library status. Do they collect all material from their state on a systematic basis and with a legal mandate to do so? do they receive copyright copies on similar grounds? If not, I think that these secondary entries should be removed, since this list is not intended to libraries not matching the definition of a national library. Clpda ( talk) 22:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Is Boris Yeltsin Presidential Library really a national deposit library? If not, it should be removed from the list. -- Rakerman ( talk) 19:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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The UK has 6 legal deposit libraries, not just the British Library. Seeing as legal deposit library links to national library, they ought to be included in this list.
Nice list, but I would like to see foundation dates for each library listed as well. -- Ghirla -трёп- 09:41, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone enlighten on just what "Tenable time" and "Year stops" are supposed to mean in this instance? The year of the library's founding, and its closure?-- Huaiwei 01:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The article reads, Some of the first libraries were national libraries; for example, the Library of Alexandria was the national library of Ptolemaic Egypt. This is incorrect as it is anachronistic. Egypt, at any time before the mid-twentieth century, wasn't a nation and therefore couldn't have a national library. The concept of "nation" implied in the expression "national library" emerged no earlier than the late-eighteenth century - proof of it is that de facto national libraries such as the British and US Congress libraries are not termed "national libraries". 189.33.13.5 06:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Found this in the IFLA newsletter June 2007 [1] Help needed: Directory of National Libraries on Wikipedia The Standing Committee has discussed the creation of a Directory of national libraries worldwide, taking into account existing lists such as that maintained by the European Library Service for the national libraries of Europe members of CENL (Conference of European National Librarians). We have now learned that a worldwide list exists on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_libraries We think this is an excellent basis for developing a list: since it is open each country may add its national library details and maintain them, thus avoiding setting up another infrastructure. We encourage you therefore to check your country’s national library (and other) details on this site and update – or create - entries as required. Please let us know your comments on the entries and help maintain an up-to-date list. As an example, the reference staff of the Swiss National Library ensure that the Swiss entry is accurate and up-to-date as part of their general information service mission. Thank you for your input! Houshuang ( talk) 00:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
After the initial suggestion above and a discussion at the 2007 IFLA Annual Conference in Durban (South Africa), the Standing Committee mandated an external consultant to study the various options available to establish a comprehensive directory of national libraries. Out of eight different possible options, the analysis retained two, among which was Wikipedia, which were submitted to the vote of the Standing Committee. Wikipedia was chosen with two thirds of the expressed votes. The Standing Committee warmly thanks the contributors to this list as having provided an invaluable basis for its directory and will be active in promoting and completing it. I (the external consultant and current holder of this account) suggest the following changes and developments to both the Wikipedia community and the IFLA-NLS Standing Committee:
When the English version has reached a satisfactory state of maturity (which it almost already does), there is the objective of reproducing and adapt it in the other official languages of IFLA: Arabic, Chinese, French, German, Russian and Spanish, with the help of IFLA Resource Centres and/or national libraries using these languages.
Comments and suggestions are welcome until June 22nd 2008, after which I’ll start working according to the suggested, and maybe amended, line of action.
IFLA-nls-en ( talk) 13:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC) - Amendment about names: IFLA-nls-en ( talk) 16:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Additions and subtractions to this list welcome. - kotra ( talk) 17:34, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
In the table, there is a "Tenable time" column and, below "Quantity", a "Year stops" column. What do these mean? Is "Tenable time" the foundation date, and "Year stops" the year of the most recent item in their collection? This is unclear. - kotra ( talk) 13:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia:Naming_conventions, library names should be in English in their main entry and in their individual pages that are linked from this page. I started to apply this general policy using in priority the English name used by the library itself or, if not available, a direct translation (with one case pending - Brunei - because of the special/unclear status of the NL). I met 2 cases (done A-F only yet) where there would have been a double redirect, i.e. the page was under the original name and there was a redirect from the English name. In the first case (Austrian National Library), I just put a note on the discussion page and the swap was performed by someone else within 24h. In the second case, the Bibliothèque nationale de France, I felt it could be more controversial and put the proposal for change on Wikipedia:Move_requests. Comments, by the way given by non-French people only (so, no chauvinism involved), were against that move. They basically all said that the English name was inappropriate or even ridiculous. As a French speaker myself, I cannot appreciate the 'penetration' of the BnF's own name. On the other hand, its website does not, as far as I could see, display a name in English. In addition, I must admit that labelling the British Library on the French Wikipedia as 'Bibliothèque britannique' would sound quite daft, so I quite understand the points raised. I'm now stuck with my homogeneization idea because if France gets its library name in its original language, why not the others? Clpda ( talk) 00:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
These currently unused sections should exist, I think. While there may not be anything in them at the moment, there may be in the future. According to List of countries, there are countries starting with W and Y. X should probably stay removed, though, since there is no country or territory starting with X. - kotra ( talk) 21:46, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
If I am correct there is a NL in the US called the National Library of Education ( see site), which is famous for ERIC ( Education Resources Information Center). The wikipedia article on ERIC ignores this and claims it is run by the Institute of Education Sciences. Are we missing an important US national library? DGtal ( talk) 08:46, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
The work done on this list has been welcomed by IFLA (both from the National Libraries Section and Headquarters). In my view, after the research I've done, the list can be considered complete with the following (non-essential) exceptions:
IFLA will consider this list as a reference and promote it as such. Its own (outdated and less complete) list may remain for libraries having neither an individual page nor a website.
About 95% of the national libraries listed here have been (or are going to be soon - there are two rounds planned) personally informed of the existence of the list by IFLA and requested to check it, provide data where needed, and create or complete their individual page, including the Infobox Library. Among other advice, their attention has been / will be specifically drawn to WP:NPOV and WP:COI. The results will show in a few weeks or months. The editors' scrutiny, welcome all the time of course, is definitely requested for the months to come!
Given this evolution, I think this article is a reasonable candidate for moving from grade B to grade GA within the WikiProject Education. Clpda ( talk) 16:54, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
This list is currently organised according to the late List of countries which has recently disappeared, changed into a disambiguation page leading to all sorts of countries lists. The reference at least should be changed and, preferably in my view, the order and layout of entries as well. The main reference now seems to be the List of sovereign states, which includes dependent territories as sub-items. I'm ready to rearrange this list according to the order of the List of sovereign states if most of the other editors contributing to it agree with this change. Clpda ( talk) 12:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
In 1927 a number of research libraries in Denmark organized a voluntary division of labour on acquisition of foreign books. This arrangement, termed subject-division, means that many Danish research libraries undertook special obligations as main subject libraries. They made their collections of foreign literature available to users in the whole country and played a role as documentation and information centres (reference: Jørgen Svane-Mikkelsen: The library system in Denmark , Copenhagen 1997). Some of these libraries carried / or still carries the title "national" in their names (National Library of Education, National Library of Agriculture, National Library for Science and Medicine); even they were de facto not national libraries. In the it-age, this system is fading out.
The National Library in Denmark is Det Kongelige Bibliotek, Royal Danish Library in cooperation and division of labour with the State and University Library. These two libraries cooperate about legal deposit and national library obligations. The obligation as national library is stated in the Annual State Budget and (for example) in the official library statistics, published by Danish National Library Authority, reference: [6] Billelar ( talk) 15 January 2009 —Preceding undated comment was added at 21:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC).
User:Muzi added state libraries to the Australian entry. I question their national library status. Do they collect all material from their state on a systematic basis and with a legal mandate to do so? do they receive copyright copies on similar grounds? If not, I think that these secondary entries should be removed, since this list is not intended to libraries not matching the definition of a national library. Clpda ( talk) 22:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Is Boris Yeltsin Presidential Library really a national deposit library? If not, it should be removed from the list. -- Rakerman ( talk) 19:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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