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Is there any evidence that these name changes were specifically due to the George Floyd protests, rather than part of a more general reaction against commemorating historical figures whose activities are now seen as racist? Especially outside the U.S., many of the citations do not mention Floyd at all, concentrating on broader campaigns such as Black Lives Matter which predates the Floyd incident by several years. Certes ( talk) 14:21, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Here are two sources that provide new information about Dundas Street in Toronto: CBC article City of Toronto action report
There's going to be a council meeting on July 6, 2021 regarding Dundas Street.
It would be great to incorporate the new details regarding Dundas Street as it would also affect other civic assets in Toronto named Dundas such as Dundas and Dundas West stations of the Toronto subway system and Yonge–Dundas Square and may also include those throughout the province as the Dundas Street name is present in some of the other municipalities in the province. Johnny Au ( talk/ contributions) 22:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC) Done Johnny Au ( talk/ contributions) 16:35, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
The colour code going from Proposed change supported by one or more officials
to Change partially or fully reversed
seems wrong. Combined with the red-for-stop background colour, the current version reads as if these proposed changes were abandoned. If the "change" being referenced is the same in both cases, from an old name to a new name, should it not be worded as "change partially or fully implemented"? Or is this a typo for "changed partially or fully reversed"?
Belbury (
talk) 17:41, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
It looks like in at least some cases this is a user changing the colour if they can personally see that, two years on, the change didn't actually happen. This should really be mentioned in the "Details" column and be given a reference so that other editors can WP:VERIFY that the name didn't change. -- Belbury ( talk) 22:21, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Having just corrected Black Boy Lane with sources to say the renaming was implemented rather than reversed, I've reassessed this. Black Boy Lane was one of the entries changed from Reported but not yet executed
to Change partially or fully reversed
as part of the above IP's
"let's be real - only a few of these decisions went anywhere" in May 2022; although it was true to say that the plan hadn't gone anywhere at that point (the street wasn't renamed until January 2023), it was not true to say that the decision had been "partially or fully reversed".
Sure, it's not ideal for entries in this article to be years out of date, but it's much worse for this article to be making false statements about these plans having definitely been cancelled or reversed, if the edit was something as simple as changing all "not yet executed" entries to "reversed" if they didn't have an implementation date by that time. This explains why I was initially puzzled by dozens of red "fully reversed" rows that didn't match the text or the sources.
I've rolled back the colour changes from that edit. -- Belbury ( talk) 19:36, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
It's my fault. Something happened between this edit and this edit, and I goofed up. I tried to fix it but I'm completely lost now. Please help. Kire1975 ( talk) 00:05, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/story/2023-07-06/rolando-post-office-susan-davis
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Susan_A._Davis_Post_Office_plaque.jpg
I have to declare a conflict of interest on this change only. -Erik Anderson Kire1975 ( talk) 06:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
The unveiled plaque read “This Building Is Named in Honor of Susan A. Davis by an Act of Congress, Public Law 117-314, December 27, 2022.” However, a legend will remain for the foreseeable future in large letters atop the Post Office Building stating: “United States Post Office, Andrew Jackson Station, San Diego, California 92115.” No congressional appropriation has been made to replace the lettering, and according to Davis, such an appropriation is problematic because such legislation would have to incorporate not only this post office branch but other renamed post office branches throughout the nation.I thought that was pretty notable. Kire1975 ( talk) 09:14, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
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Is there any evidence that these name changes were specifically due to the George Floyd protests, rather than part of a more general reaction against commemorating historical figures whose activities are now seen as racist? Especially outside the U.S., many of the citations do not mention Floyd at all, concentrating on broader campaigns such as Black Lives Matter which predates the Floyd incident by several years. Certes ( talk) 14:21, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Here are two sources that provide new information about Dundas Street in Toronto: CBC article City of Toronto action report
There's going to be a council meeting on July 6, 2021 regarding Dundas Street.
It would be great to incorporate the new details regarding Dundas Street as it would also affect other civic assets in Toronto named Dundas such as Dundas and Dundas West stations of the Toronto subway system and Yonge–Dundas Square and may also include those throughout the province as the Dundas Street name is present in some of the other municipalities in the province. Johnny Au ( talk/ contributions) 22:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC) Done Johnny Au ( talk/ contributions) 16:35, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
The colour code going from Proposed change supported by one or more officials
to Change partially or fully reversed
seems wrong. Combined with the red-for-stop background colour, the current version reads as if these proposed changes were abandoned. If the "change" being referenced is the same in both cases, from an old name to a new name, should it not be worded as "change partially or fully implemented"? Or is this a typo for "changed partially or fully reversed"?
Belbury (
talk) 17:41, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
It looks like in at least some cases this is a user changing the colour if they can personally see that, two years on, the change didn't actually happen. This should really be mentioned in the "Details" column and be given a reference so that other editors can WP:VERIFY that the name didn't change. -- Belbury ( talk) 22:21, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Having just corrected Black Boy Lane with sources to say the renaming was implemented rather than reversed, I've reassessed this. Black Boy Lane was one of the entries changed from Reported but not yet executed
to Change partially or fully reversed
as part of the above IP's
"let's be real - only a few of these decisions went anywhere" in May 2022; although it was true to say that the plan hadn't gone anywhere at that point (the street wasn't renamed until January 2023), it was not true to say that the decision had been "partially or fully reversed".
Sure, it's not ideal for entries in this article to be years out of date, but it's much worse for this article to be making false statements about these plans having definitely been cancelled or reversed, if the edit was something as simple as changing all "not yet executed" entries to "reversed" if they didn't have an implementation date by that time. This explains why I was initially puzzled by dozens of red "fully reversed" rows that didn't match the text or the sources.
I've rolled back the colour changes from that edit. -- Belbury ( talk) 19:36, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
It's my fault. Something happened between this edit and this edit, and I goofed up. I tried to fix it but I'm completely lost now. Please help. Kire1975 ( talk) 00:05, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/story/2023-07-06/rolando-post-office-susan-davis
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Susan_A._Davis_Post_Office_plaque.jpg
I have to declare a conflict of interest on this change only. -Erik Anderson Kire1975 ( talk) 06:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
The unveiled plaque read “This Building Is Named in Honor of Susan A. Davis by an Act of Congress, Public Law 117-314, December 27, 2022.” However, a legend will remain for the foreseeable future in large letters atop the Post Office Building stating: “United States Post Office, Andrew Jackson Station, San Diego, California 92115.” No congressional appropriation has been made to replace the lettering, and according to Davis, such an appropriation is problematic because such legislation would have to incorporate not only this post office branch but other renamed post office branches throughout the nation.I thought that was pretty notable. Kire1975 ( talk) 09:14, 26 July 2023 (UTC)