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I added the turntable to the list of electronic instruments as you can control pitch and tempo. Source
I don't know you but I would never consider violin and viola like percussion instruments — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.18.12.244 ( talk) 20:41, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
I added the Keytar: the piano-guitar thing that is seen in so many bands. I can't believe this wasn't there, its been popular .+ cbhadha 16:54, 21 June 2008
although I suppose one could be used in an intstrument context similar to a sequencer, it is primarily a sound reproduction device. at the very least Ipod should be changed to mp3 player. 01:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I added a Contiuum to electronics. However im not sure if it actually goes there or not. Anybody know?
76.3.186.148
02:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Woah, I found out that there are more then one meaning for Contiuum, so I added (instrument) to go to the page.. How do I get rid of the text (instrument) but let it go to page Continuum_(instrument)?
76.3.186.148
02:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Is there a reason why some instruments are listed in only a single category? Piano, for instance, could be listed as string and percussion? Would it be worth adding any discussion of the limitations of the organological scheme used and the fact that there are members of multiple categories? + Fenevad 19:21, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Tenorshawm Horn??? Hmmm. Maybe (1) I am bonkers, it is a legit instrument, it's just that I never heard of it - please enlighten me; (2) someone was fooling around on purpose; or (3) someone had a cutting-and-pasting-moment involving both the shawm and the tenor horn?!
Assuming for the moment it is 2 or 3, I have separated it into the tenor horn (and the identical alto horn), and the shawm.
Anyone wanting to persuade me it's (1) will have to provide slightly better evidence than you get by Googling "Tenorshawm"! No offence intended, of course, - if I am wrong I will eat humble pie.
(removed failed smiley chiz chiz)
Nevilley 23:56 Nov 21, 2002 (UTC)
I'm a little disappointed that no-one has taken me up on the "tenorshawm horn" but hey! :)
Now then, the serpent. I moved it to Brass from Hybrid because I don't think it is really a hybrid. Like the cornett it produces its sound in a brasslike way (i.e. it is a lip-vibrated aerophone) - I think what happens after that is of less importance in categorizing it. Same goes for the cornett, which I've added. Hybrid could be a really unhelpful classification - you will get people wanting to put the sax in as a ww/brass hybrid because it has a metal body and all that nonsense. I think it's better just to decide on a group for an instrument, based on how the sound is made, and stick with that. Nevilley 21:56 Dec 6, 2002 (UTC)
For Xalan, I couldn't get any info from search engines, hence putting it under the Others section. Maybe some practitioners can assign it to the right category and create a page for it. Jay 11:03, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I wonder if it might be a good idea to have a more simplified classification - into say "winds", "strings", "percussion" and "electronics" with some duplication under "keyboards" and no subsections - at this page. We could then have something like " list of musical instruments by Hornbostel-Sachs number" where we could get all technical. I think something simpler here might be more useful for the layman (who probsbly doesn't, after all, know what a "membranophone" is). Alternatively, we could just strip the classification system out altogether and have a simple alphabetical list, but annotate it with brief descriptions, giving something like:
and so on. I'm just throwing ideas out there, but I do think that having a simple and accessible classification (or no classification at all) as well as a more complex, technical classification on a separate page, would not be a bad thing. -- Camembert
I don't know why laypeople, of whom I consider myself a member, would be confused by the new knowledge that stringed instruments are chordophones. The advantage to the current list is that it includes both lay and technical classificiations. Of course, I would argue for keeping the Hornbostel-Sachs classifications, because I added them, but the page has always been classified. I think that a simple list is only useful for the experienced who are looking to write new articles for instruments, while a classified list contains actual information that a layperson may find useful.- Hyacinth 16:42, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I got it started for you.- Hyacinth 20:28, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I agree that this page should be kept a simple, alphabetical list. I would like to be able to add instruments here, but don't have a clue how to know if they are chordophones or idiophones or anything else. Tuf-Kat 03:24, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)
Lamellophones (e.g. the Mbira are a separate class. They are tunable, so they cannot be classified as idiophones. The percussion instruments should also be subcalssified. The classification currently given here (one one hand several fine distinctions are made in wind instruments, on the other hand different classes of "percussion instruments" are lumped together) is eurocentric. Nannus 23:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
74.95.43.249 ( talk) 02:15, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
The Hornbostel-Sachs-Classification in itself is eurocentric e.g. in not recognizing lamellophones as a separate class. It might be appropriate for European music traditions but is biased and therefore violates the NPOV-principle underlying Wikipedia. It should therefore not form the only basis of this list.
Nannus
23:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
--
Hansenb1
I don't think instruments should find themselves in multiple categories. If we're going to have a keyboard section, piano and harpsichord shouldn't also be under "stringed instruments". If worse comes to worse, we could always make another section called "unclassifiable". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hansenb1 ( talk • contribs) 15:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't think instruments should find themselves in multiple categories. If we're going to have a keyboard section, piano and harpsichord shouldn't also be under "stringed instruments". If worse comes to worse, we could always make another section called "unclassifiable". Hansenb1 —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Who cares how many entries there are in each section? Why is this information even presented? Many items appear in more than one section. This is pointless information which is destined to become inaccurate as people edit but do not update the numbers. I suggest removing this information altogether. 66.184.16.58 ( talk) 21:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree. Many, if not all, of the numbers are already inaccurate. 24.57.16.135 ( talk) 18:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I added the reactable to the electronic instruments section. It was used by Bjork in a recent tour. Hypershock ( talk) 22:33, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
According to the page on Electronic musical instrument, An electronic musical instrument is a musical instrument that produces its sounds using electronics. Consequently, i am removing the following from the list, because they largely acoustic instruments that have an "electronic" post-stage so that they can be amplified more easily.
I've also removed
because there is no page on it, so it's not clear what that even means.
Additionally, some of the listed devices are not really instruments -- they do not produce any sound themselves, they are controllers:
I think we should remove them, too, but will wait for comments. Doceddi ( talk) 14:23, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
The continuum both makes a sound of its own, and and can act as a controller. Only the early versions were without built-in sound capability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.228.51.147 ( talk) 02:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC) -- I added the Continuum Fingerboard, since the given reason for it being removed based on an untrue statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.207.91 ( talk) 03:25, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Just noting that the
Theramin is not on the list
would be interested to know its classification — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
81.158.68.0 (
talk)
16:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
I hardly think there is such a category. Accordion and Bandoneon are wind instruments. You open and close holes for the wind to pass through by keys, but still the sound is produced by vibrations of the wind. Similarly piano is a string instrument and church organ is a wind instrument as well. I strongly urge a professional to look into it. 176.41.33.61 ( talk) 17:04, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
It seems important to me to put pictures with everything. For example, someone who sees a unique looking instrument somewhere but doesn't know its name could look at this page for reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.131.71.39 ( talk) 08:32, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
https://www.google.pt/search?q=guitol%C3%A3o&oq=guitol%C3%A3o&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61l2.2524j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.80.78.21 ( talk) 21:51, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Frankly, I think a list like this is of questionable value and probably a waste of time. There are literally tens of thousands of musical instruments in the world, even before you start dredging up historical examples that are no longer in use. Plus new instruments are being designed, daily. Already the list lacks a whole category of instruments: lamellophones. The existing Wiki article on these alone lists at least thirty instruments in this category, and that barely scratches the surface.
74.95.43.249 ( talk) 02:03, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Why isn't the Jaw (or Jew's) Harp on this page? Jew's harp wikipedia page Nerdvana ( talk) 10:07, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Sounds like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.224.116.221 ( talk) 06:50, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
It seems there's a couple percussion instruments missing, such as Bar Chimes/Mark Tree Bell Tree
I didn't want to make the edit myself because i don't know the proper way to format it and stuff.
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.104.207 ( talk) 03:23, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello. Please, could You add to the Wind musical instruments Bass voice? It is part of voices too. Or, It isn't added just because of some reason? Thank You. Best regards Cassa342 ( talk) 21:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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I added the turntable to the list of electronic instruments as you can control pitch and tempo. Source
I don't know you but I would never consider violin and viola like percussion instruments — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.18.12.244 ( talk) 20:41, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
I added the Keytar: the piano-guitar thing that is seen in so many bands. I can't believe this wasn't there, its been popular .+ cbhadha 16:54, 21 June 2008
although I suppose one could be used in an intstrument context similar to a sequencer, it is primarily a sound reproduction device. at the very least Ipod should be changed to mp3 player. 01:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I added a Contiuum to electronics. However im not sure if it actually goes there or not. Anybody know?
76.3.186.148
02:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Woah, I found out that there are more then one meaning for Contiuum, so I added (instrument) to go to the page.. How do I get rid of the text (instrument) but let it go to page Continuum_(instrument)?
76.3.186.148
02:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Is there a reason why some instruments are listed in only a single category? Piano, for instance, could be listed as string and percussion? Would it be worth adding any discussion of the limitations of the organological scheme used and the fact that there are members of multiple categories? + Fenevad 19:21, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Tenorshawm Horn??? Hmmm. Maybe (1) I am bonkers, it is a legit instrument, it's just that I never heard of it - please enlighten me; (2) someone was fooling around on purpose; or (3) someone had a cutting-and-pasting-moment involving both the shawm and the tenor horn?!
Assuming for the moment it is 2 or 3, I have separated it into the tenor horn (and the identical alto horn), and the shawm.
Anyone wanting to persuade me it's (1) will have to provide slightly better evidence than you get by Googling "Tenorshawm"! No offence intended, of course, - if I am wrong I will eat humble pie.
(removed failed smiley chiz chiz)
Nevilley 23:56 Nov 21, 2002 (UTC)
I'm a little disappointed that no-one has taken me up on the "tenorshawm horn" but hey! :)
Now then, the serpent. I moved it to Brass from Hybrid because I don't think it is really a hybrid. Like the cornett it produces its sound in a brasslike way (i.e. it is a lip-vibrated aerophone) - I think what happens after that is of less importance in categorizing it. Same goes for the cornett, which I've added. Hybrid could be a really unhelpful classification - you will get people wanting to put the sax in as a ww/brass hybrid because it has a metal body and all that nonsense. I think it's better just to decide on a group for an instrument, based on how the sound is made, and stick with that. Nevilley 21:56 Dec 6, 2002 (UTC)
For Xalan, I couldn't get any info from search engines, hence putting it under the Others section. Maybe some practitioners can assign it to the right category and create a page for it. Jay 11:03, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I wonder if it might be a good idea to have a more simplified classification - into say "winds", "strings", "percussion" and "electronics" with some duplication under "keyboards" and no subsections - at this page. We could then have something like " list of musical instruments by Hornbostel-Sachs number" where we could get all technical. I think something simpler here might be more useful for the layman (who probsbly doesn't, after all, know what a "membranophone" is). Alternatively, we could just strip the classification system out altogether and have a simple alphabetical list, but annotate it with brief descriptions, giving something like:
and so on. I'm just throwing ideas out there, but I do think that having a simple and accessible classification (or no classification at all) as well as a more complex, technical classification on a separate page, would not be a bad thing. -- Camembert
I don't know why laypeople, of whom I consider myself a member, would be confused by the new knowledge that stringed instruments are chordophones. The advantage to the current list is that it includes both lay and technical classificiations. Of course, I would argue for keeping the Hornbostel-Sachs classifications, because I added them, but the page has always been classified. I think that a simple list is only useful for the experienced who are looking to write new articles for instruments, while a classified list contains actual information that a layperson may find useful.- Hyacinth 16:42, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I got it started for you.- Hyacinth 20:28, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I agree that this page should be kept a simple, alphabetical list. I would like to be able to add instruments here, but don't have a clue how to know if they are chordophones or idiophones or anything else. Tuf-Kat 03:24, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)
Lamellophones (e.g. the Mbira are a separate class. They are tunable, so they cannot be classified as idiophones. The percussion instruments should also be subcalssified. The classification currently given here (one one hand several fine distinctions are made in wind instruments, on the other hand different classes of "percussion instruments" are lumped together) is eurocentric. Nannus 23:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
74.95.43.249 ( talk) 02:15, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
The Hornbostel-Sachs-Classification in itself is eurocentric e.g. in not recognizing lamellophones as a separate class. It might be appropriate for European music traditions but is biased and therefore violates the NPOV-principle underlying Wikipedia. It should therefore not form the only basis of this list.
Nannus
23:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
--
Hansenb1
I don't think instruments should find themselves in multiple categories. If we're going to have a keyboard section, piano and harpsichord shouldn't also be under "stringed instruments". If worse comes to worse, we could always make another section called "unclassifiable". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hansenb1 ( talk • contribs) 15:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't think instruments should find themselves in multiple categories. If we're going to have a keyboard section, piano and harpsichord shouldn't also be under "stringed instruments". If worse comes to worse, we could always make another section called "unclassifiable". Hansenb1 —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Who cares how many entries there are in each section? Why is this information even presented? Many items appear in more than one section. This is pointless information which is destined to become inaccurate as people edit but do not update the numbers. I suggest removing this information altogether. 66.184.16.58 ( talk) 21:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree. Many, if not all, of the numbers are already inaccurate. 24.57.16.135 ( talk) 18:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I added the reactable to the electronic instruments section. It was used by Bjork in a recent tour. Hypershock ( talk) 22:33, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
According to the page on Electronic musical instrument, An electronic musical instrument is a musical instrument that produces its sounds using electronics. Consequently, i am removing the following from the list, because they largely acoustic instruments that have an "electronic" post-stage so that they can be amplified more easily.
I've also removed
because there is no page on it, so it's not clear what that even means.
Additionally, some of the listed devices are not really instruments -- they do not produce any sound themselves, they are controllers:
I think we should remove them, too, but will wait for comments. Doceddi ( talk) 14:23, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
The continuum both makes a sound of its own, and and can act as a controller. Only the early versions were without built-in sound capability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.228.51.147 ( talk) 02:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC) -- I added the Continuum Fingerboard, since the given reason for it being removed based on an untrue statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.207.91 ( talk) 03:25, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Just noting that the
Theramin is not on the list
would be interested to know its classification — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
81.158.68.0 (
talk)
16:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
I hardly think there is such a category. Accordion and Bandoneon are wind instruments. You open and close holes for the wind to pass through by keys, but still the sound is produced by vibrations of the wind. Similarly piano is a string instrument and church organ is a wind instrument as well. I strongly urge a professional to look into it. 176.41.33.61 ( talk) 17:04, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
It seems important to me to put pictures with everything. For example, someone who sees a unique looking instrument somewhere but doesn't know its name could look at this page for reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.131.71.39 ( talk) 08:32, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
https://www.google.pt/search?q=guitol%C3%A3o&oq=guitol%C3%A3o&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61l2.2524j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.80.78.21 ( talk) 21:51, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Frankly, I think a list like this is of questionable value and probably a waste of time. There are literally tens of thousands of musical instruments in the world, even before you start dredging up historical examples that are no longer in use. Plus new instruments are being designed, daily. Already the list lacks a whole category of instruments: lamellophones. The existing Wiki article on these alone lists at least thirty instruments in this category, and that barely scratches the surface.
74.95.43.249 ( talk) 02:03, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Why isn't the Jaw (or Jew's) Harp on this page? Jew's harp wikipedia page Nerdvana ( talk) 10:07, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Sounds like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.224.116.221 ( talk) 06:50, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
It seems there's a couple percussion instruments missing, such as Bar Chimes/Mark Tree Bell Tree
I didn't want to make the edit myself because i don't know the proper way to format it and stuff.
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.104.207 ( talk) 03:23, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello. Please, could You add to the Wind musical instruments Bass voice? It is part of voices too. Or, It isn't added just because of some reason? Thank You. Best regards Cassa342 ( talk) 21:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)