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While I can understand them removing the huge alphabetical lists of ninjutsu, why are they removing character articles such as Itachi Uchiha's and instead putting them in lists with much less detail? Also, why have they taken out loads of the pictures? there should a picture for most of the characters, even the ones in the lists. There aren't any pictures for characters in the Akatsuki section OR this section. I just put one up for Madara Uchiha along with a fair use rationale, etc. they better not remove/delete it. -- Arsenal666 18:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
See further down here. I don't wholly agree with this, but unless stated otherwise, we are complying with this by excluding images in the "list of" type articles. BrokenSphere Msg me 20:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Might knife duster (a form of brass knuckle with a blade but not necessarily a trench knife, which need not have the brass knuckle component as per that article) be a more appropriate description? -- BrokenSphere 01:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that this page has some past/present tense grammer problems. I was wondering if it would be appropriate to fix these? Look at the section on Asuma Sarutobi for a specific on what i'm talking about. Ageofe 23:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Why is it that the Flying Thunder God Technique redirects here when the jutsu is listed under the article "List of Jutsu in Naruto (A-G)"? That doesn't make sense to me.... -- 71.75.188.94 17:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
the sanin, people from other villages, itachi and other outcasts, and finally anbu are jonin.(shadowsok@aol.com)
Edit conflict; might as well post it anyways...
The 1st paragraph of Sandaime's article seems like complete speculation. It was never stated that he specialized in fire and earth techniques, those are simply the ones he used (the earth justu in particular was just the proper counter for that situation). It was also never stated that he specialized in elemental jutsus either. This all seems like someone looked at the few jutsus he had time to use, assumed it was his entire fighting style and wrote it into the article. Considering that he used 6 jutsus and only two of them were elemental, it's hardly accurate if the source is nothing but the manga. Is this in a databook somewhere or is it just completely made up? 69.177.144.165 02:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
The fourth Hokage's is "Arashi Uzumaki". It's not theorize, although you have to put information together. As already know, the fourth Hokage also had to sign the contact for frog summons. If you look on the episode where Naruto signs it, you will see "Arashi Uzumaki" in Japanese. This is a obvious sign right in the TV show it's self. This however does not prove if the Fourth's son is Naruto or not, but it does show his name.
functional(); [Blaher] - http://blahertech.dnsalias.net 21:05, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
To me it looks like sloppy gibberish in both the anime and the manga. It's already been seen in soon to no longer be unreleased pages of the manga that his name was "not" Uzumaki, Arashi anyhow. Intellect Ninja 22:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
The fansubbers put that name as a joke years ago. Jink
At what point did the anime become the official source for canon?
His royal majesty, Lord Holy Ono
01:43, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Most of the characters names are either objects or ingredients etc. I assume this is not normal in Japan, kinda like having a name like David Potato or something? So having a name like Nawaki "rope wood" would be odd? I think I have seen this in manga & anime before, Dragonball etc. -- Conradical247 04:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Well is allso not that uncommon.I do agree a name as Kakashi (scarecrow) Hatake (field,farmland) is preaty much uncommon as a japanese name, but a name as Sakura (chery blossom) Haruno (spring field) is preaty common...i recall once reading that Sakura is one of the most popular names for girls in the 1990s and 2000s in japan.Aswell i would like to add the fact that whatever languege and/or counry a name is oriented from it allways has a meaning..as such the name Rober means "bright fame"..or the name of the famous japanese movie directo Akira Kurosawa.. Akira can mean "bright/shining"..it can allso mean "inteligent2 but its stil a common name eventhou what it means may sound unusual as a name for some people —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.131.73.211 ( talk) 23:18, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
In chapter 367, tsunade mentioned a Kuchina Uzumaki. I'm not going to speculate here and say that she is of any known relation to naruto, but I am going to list her for now. busboy 05:33, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
it is stated (naruto manga 367 page 11-12) that se IS naruto's mother. M877y 20:50, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Got it. Adding it now. Busboy 20:55, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
She is not a Konoha ninja, so she doesn't fit this article. - Access Timeco 21:40, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
I can't actually read the new manga as my computer sucks, but I do believe someone said she came from The Whirlpool country. Anyway she is no from Konoha. -- Kaoskaix 00:32, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Someone should add that its rumored that Naruto's parents are The Fourth Hokage and Yugao Uzuki. Also the Second Hokage if I'm correct, had that sword named Sword of Rajin or something simulator to that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uzumaki Dude ( talk • contribs) 21:16, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
Yup, the fourth, and the shinobi from the Whirlpool Country. That's according to Tsunade and Jiraiya anyway. Oh wow, I wonder how many fanboys with that original theory are squealing with delight. -- Conradical247 08:45, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Particularly in the section about the 4th Hokage. The anime (and roughly 90% of the series' fans) are nowhere close to the story developments recently revealed in the manga, and blatantly putting it on the page without warning is really a problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.225.146.44 ( talk) 16:47, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
If your stupid enough to wiki Naruto without expecting spoilers, then they need mental help. ---- Signed by me.
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Instead of calling him the Fourth, shouldn't we just refer to him as just Minato Namikaze? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.181.50.107 ( talk) 15:12, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
Again, spoiler tags are definitely needed for this article, especially pertaining to the Fourth Hokage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.237.149.176 ( talk) 04:20, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
i think it's mostly because they just want to know more about the characters but it is true...you shouldn't come to wiki if you don't want any spoilers. it's just not done. wiki has everything. LOL -- Bloody rock princess ( talk) 15:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
It has yet to be specifically stated that Naruto is indeed Minato's son. It's been danced around a few times in chapter 367, it is stated:
It's never clearly stated that the father is, in fact, Minato. Because of this, I will edit out all attempts to claim Minato as Naruto's father in the article. ~ FallenAngelII 17:53, 28 August 2007 (GMT+1)
you guys are stupid...you need everything in your face...dont you....it is stated that it was naruto's father...who is that other him...it just doesnt make sence to mention him and that him not be fourth.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gettoland DIO ( talk • contribs) 19:40, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
That's fine, it's so obvious that Naruto's father is the 4th. And why shouldn't he be? The anime and manga is only titled, "Naruto" after all. Oh well, when it's official the 4th is his father, people will be scrambling on whether the Akatsuki leader is Naruto's brother. That's too is pretty obvious, when Jiraiya said she's was like one of the boys. Plus Kushina had red hair, Akatsuki leader looks like Naruto, come on guys. The family tree is Namikaze Minato the dad, Kushina Uzumaki the mother, Akatsuki leader is the eldest son, and Naruto is the youngest son. Count on it. Jijjin 00:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Ok Kushina grew up in kanoha... if she didnt, then how would tsunade and jiraya remember her as a child growing up. Maybe she was some important person from the whirlpool country(her last name means whirlpool) and was rescued by minato when the country was being destroyed(its the former whirlool country). Or you could be right and it could be called the former whirlpool country because the name was changed to whatever piens hometown is called... —Preceding
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Ultimate, how bout you ignore what I said about Pein... Now... Do you deny the very high possibility that the 4th is Naruto's father? Jijjin 19:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
First, its THEUltimate if you don't wish to use the 3, otherwise its TheUltimate3. That being said, I go by the manga and the manga pretty much said "Fourth his Naruto's pappy."-- TheUltimate3 20:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
It does not matter if the manga "pretty much says it" or that there's a very "high possibility". Unless you've complete missed it, every time I've edited the article, I've added that "it is heavily implied" they are father and son. Until such time it's said outright and with 100% clarity and that are indeed father and son, it remains a heavily implied blood relation and not a fact and should not be treated as such here on Wikipedia. Head over to the Naruto talk-page where this dispute was settle with compromise of stating that it is heavily implied.-- FallenAngelII 14:57, 7 September 2007 (GMT+1)
Tsunade: Namikaze Minato... The resemblance is undeniable...
Jiraiya: Minato had talent you only see once a decade, at best. He was a genius... No one like him has been born in a while. He was such a nice kid, yet his gut and desire to succeed were the fiercest I'd ever seen. And in a blink of an eye, he was our fourth Hokage. I never had kids, so I don'twhat it was like... But if he'd been my son, I'd have bragged about him all the time.
Tsunade: Haha... Hearing you say that makes me think of how different they are, too. If I had to choose, I'd say he's much more similar to his mother.
Tsunade: Kushina became so beautiful as she grew up... But Naruto does look a lot like his father.
Ryu-chan (Talk) 17:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Of course I agree that after reading this, the 4th is Naruto's father. I'm just warning everyone that the debate is likely to rage on for a while — HisshouBuraiKen
Shonen Jump is released isn't released on Friday. It's released on Wednesday. If it were released on Firday, then there would be no way of recieving it, translating it, and posting it on the same day. Ryu-chan (Talk) | (Contributions) 19:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Since Minato is a notable character and because he is apart of the naruto beginnings couldn't we just add in a picture of him.
Can the 4th being the greatest ninja that was ever produced be changed to. The greatest hokage; and add that the 3rd was the strongest hokage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.137.169.151 ( talk) 08:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
The Fourth's picture was deleted, but there are no pitures on the whole article, and he should have one because he is Naruto's father. I added it so please don't delete it. Ultimaterasengan 20:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I have a question for whoever manages Wikipedia. Why are you deleting all of the pictures? Specifically, the Naruto pictures? I dislike this, because placing images on your website allows people to see what the characters look like. Also, on the characters who have full articles, whose bright idea was it to remove that character's techniques. It is much easier to just type in the characters name and see their techniques than go looking for them. Could someone please respond. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Master auror ( talk • contribs) 21:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I have a question for whoever manages Wikipedia. Why are you deleting all of the pictures? Specifically, the Naruto pictures? I dislike this, because placing images on your website allows people to see what the characters look like. Also, on the characters who have full articles, whose bright idea was it to remove that character's techniques. It is much easier to just type in the characters name and see their techniques than go looking for them. Could someone please respond. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Master auror ( talk • contribs) 21:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
The Flying Thunder God Jutsu does not require a special seal. If you go back to the "Kakashi Gaiden" story arc of the Naruto Manga, you see The Fourth Hokage use the flying thunder god jutsu to save Kakashi from a Rock Ninja and as he grabs Kakashi, he places a seal on the foot of the Rock Ninja. Then he uses the Body Flicker Technique to kill the Rock Ninja. When the Fourth Hokage kills all those other Rock Ninja, he asks the other Leaf Shinobi to throw his special kunai, with a seal on it, at the enemy. Again he does the Body Flicker Technique to kill those Rock Ninja. The Flying Thunder God jutsu works by not using a seal, but by being able to see where you are going/knowing exactly where you are going. I forgot where I read how it works, but it was one of the Naruto websites. The real point is that no one knows how the Flying Thunder God jutsu is done yet.
Tristan76 19:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Idiot tristan is right! no one actually knows there are to many theories about it too. 1 it is pure speed. 2 bloodline limit. 3 it summons the user 4 it really does teleport. 5 it travels along with lightning. 6 cloning o.O. thats just the surface of all the theories most r half baked —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.4.123 ( talk) 17:01, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok whatever prick keeps editing the fourths part, to all crap linking him to akatsuki really needs to stop, theres no proof, if they release that with a future chapter, congrats you were right and still a craping loser, pardon the language but get a life, and take your crap elsewhere. -- 66.231.38.184 22:48, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Why does it say, that the Fourth is "presumably" deceased? Is there any information, that the Fourth did not die sealing the kyiubi? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.167.96.94 ( talk) 17:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
i don't think so. the series specifically said the DEATH OF THE FOURTH HOKAGE. that's why his face is on the side of a mountain! but it would be cool if he was alive and finally be a fthaer to our Naruto. -- Bloody rock princess ( talk) 15:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
In the paragraph about Anko Mitarashi it says ""Anko" and "Mitarashi" are ingredients in dango[...]". Mitarashi is not an ingredient, but the name of the well/ pond in front of Buddhist shrines where people wash themselves before they enter. Mitarashi dango were named after the bubbles that floated on top of the water in the mitarashi pond at the Shimogamo Shrine in Kyōto. ( source) 87.78.21.148 12:01, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Should it be added that "Hayate" can also mean something along the lines of "one who runs fast", referring to his death? 68.56.3.16 18:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
What is the Third's name? I'm guessing it is Asuma,like his son, but if it isn't, then please tell me what it is below. Uzumaki Dude 02:28, 1 November 2007 (UTC).3
Owww yeah, and whats the First's and Second's? again tell me. Uzumaki Dude 02:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
That's currently unknown. Sorry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.163.37 ( talk) 21:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Sandaime Hokage = Asuma Sarutobi.
The First and Seconds names are unknown. His royal majesty, Lord Holy Ono 18:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Why put information on the page that was taken from events that only happen in the fillers for the Anime series and not in the Manga? For example:
Although Mizuki initially seems to have no specific use for the scroll, the anime's filler arcs show that, as a former student of Orochimaru, he intended to give the scroll to his master. After leading a prison revolt to escape from jail, Mizuki uses the instructions depicted on a tattoo given to him by Orochimaru to create a potion. After consuming the potion, Mizuki transforms into a tiger-like man-beast with doubled speed and power, but Naruto manages to defeat him again, with Iruka noting that Naruto has surpassed him. Mizuki, however, is yet another victim of Orochimaru's manipulation, and turns into an angry, shriveled, and powerless old man when the potion dissipates. Tsunade eventually heals him back to his normal state and interrogates him about the whereabouts of Orochimaru, but learns nothing of any use.
How do we know if this is Canon or not if it only happened in the Anime? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.214.131 ( talk) 04:31, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
What the hell happened to all the other Konoha ninja? It seems like there is a huge edit war going on over the fourth hokage and people have allowed quite a few characters fall through the cracks. For example, where's the information on Izumo and Koetsu (spelling is probably wrong) the chunin gate guards? They appear as cameos quite often in both the anime and manga. And what about Genma? Just take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_Konoha_ninja&oldid=168807706 compared to the current page to see how much is missing. I do not have the time nor the desire to get involved in this edit war. I would just request that some responsible party who monitors this page add back the pertinent information. Wikipedia shows up at the top of most any search and people expect to find moderately in depth information about any subject. A list of characters the main character of this series encounters with a sentence or two about each is hardly excessive.-- 130.127.48.188 ( talk) 01:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
There is some Vandalism, lets clean it up and put a ban on new users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrbald ( talk • contribs) 06:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Homura and the other elder should receive a mention in a combined fashion like Izumo & Kotetsu. Also, I originally came to this article looking for the names of the teammates of Konohamaru. I don't think that they deserve their own entry, but their names should at least be mentioned in Konohamaru's. Lore aura ( talk) 18:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
This is really more of a question than a suggestion, but I remember Sakumo Hatake being a part of some list of minor ninja characters, and I assume that it was taken off. Would it be unnecessary to add him to the list of minor characters, since he is only mentiond quite a few times? Or would it be okay to add him back? - Hahligirl56 ( talk) 20:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there a citation for this? I don't recall it being stated in the manga. Is it something from the anime or guidebooks? 24.84.2.239 ( talk) 02:22, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Most of us know who Aoba Yamashiro is.He is a member of the Niju Shotai,and uses crows in his jutsu.He was also one of the Konoha jonin who released genjutsu and fought in the war.He was also the one who told Sasuke about Itachi's return.There used to be a section on him.Now there isnt.He has made quite a few appearences,so where is he? Narutoboy1001 ( talk) 01:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)Narutoboy1001
I agree. He should be put back in.
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07:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I was mentioned in the last naruto manga that Konoha was founded by Madara Uchiha and Someone from the Forest Nation/village who later became the First. Itachi,I believe said his last name was Senju ( the clan he was from is called that) It's on page 10 of Manga 386.Therefore since Itachi states thats the First's clan's name,wouldn't his last name be Senju? Anadentone ( talk) 03:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)Anadentone
Where'd they go? It looks like someone lost them in a reorganization.-- Marhawkman ( talk) 03:00, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I know. There should be a section for anime-only characters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.4.204.47 ( talk) 02:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
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I've figured he must have been somewhere between 18(maybe 20)-37 when he died. Kakashi is 26 in the first arc. Naruto is 13. Kakashi would have been 13 when he died.
And Minato was sensei to Kakashi during Gaiden so he must be older then Kakashi, especially since Kakshi was so underdeveloped at the time.
Jiraiya is 37 or less when Minato died and he was sensei to Minato when he was younger so Jiraiya PROBABLY is more then a few years older then him at the least (we havn't seen a sensei that was younger then the students yet).
That and the fact he seemed engaged to Kushina raises the Japanese Marriage Age. So unless hte marriage isn't in effect I've deduced That His age is 18-37 anyother help to fonrim his age? I think he was 21-29 when he died really, since he seems to still burst ith energy then. but any other ideas to help confirm his age? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.167.35.204 ( talk) 08:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
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While I can understand them removing the huge alphabetical lists of ninjutsu, why are they removing character articles such as Itachi Uchiha's and instead putting them in lists with much less detail? Also, why have they taken out loads of the pictures? there should a picture for most of the characters, even the ones in the lists. There aren't any pictures for characters in the Akatsuki section OR this section. I just put one up for Madara Uchiha along with a fair use rationale, etc. they better not remove/delete it. -- Arsenal666 18:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
See further down here. I don't wholly agree with this, but unless stated otherwise, we are complying with this by excluding images in the "list of" type articles. BrokenSphere Msg me 20:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Might knife duster (a form of brass knuckle with a blade but not necessarily a trench knife, which need not have the brass knuckle component as per that article) be a more appropriate description? -- BrokenSphere 01:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that this page has some past/present tense grammer problems. I was wondering if it would be appropriate to fix these? Look at the section on Asuma Sarutobi for a specific on what i'm talking about. Ageofe 23:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Why is it that the Flying Thunder God Technique redirects here when the jutsu is listed under the article "List of Jutsu in Naruto (A-G)"? That doesn't make sense to me.... -- 71.75.188.94 17:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
the sanin, people from other villages, itachi and other outcasts, and finally anbu are jonin.(shadowsok@aol.com)
Edit conflict; might as well post it anyways...
The 1st paragraph of Sandaime's article seems like complete speculation. It was never stated that he specialized in fire and earth techniques, those are simply the ones he used (the earth justu in particular was just the proper counter for that situation). It was also never stated that he specialized in elemental jutsus either. This all seems like someone looked at the few jutsus he had time to use, assumed it was his entire fighting style and wrote it into the article. Considering that he used 6 jutsus and only two of them were elemental, it's hardly accurate if the source is nothing but the manga. Is this in a databook somewhere or is it just completely made up? 69.177.144.165 02:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
The fourth Hokage's is "Arashi Uzumaki". It's not theorize, although you have to put information together. As already know, the fourth Hokage also had to sign the contact for frog summons. If you look on the episode where Naruto signs it, you will see "Arashi Uzumaki" in Japanese. This is a obvious sign right in the TV show it's self. This however does not prove if the Fourth's son is Naruto or not, but it does show his name.
functional(); [Blaher] - http://blahertech.dnsalias.net 21:05, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
To me it looks like sloppy gibberish in both the anime and the manga. It's already been seen in soon to no longer be unreleased pages of the manga that his name was "not" Uzumaki, Arashi anyhow. Intellect Ninja 22:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
The fansubbers put that name as a joke years ago. Jink
At what point did the anime become the official source for canon?
His royal majesty, Lord Holy Ono
01:43, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Most of the characters names are either objects or ingredients etc. I assume this is not normal in Japan, kinda like having a name like David Potato or something? So having a name like Nawaki "rope wood" would be odd? I think I have seen this in manga & anime before, Dragonball etc. -- Conradical247 04:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Well is allso not that uncommon.I do agree a name as Kakashi (scarecrow) Hatake (field,farmland) is preaty much uncommon as a japanese name, but a name as Sakura (chery blossom) Haruno (spring field) is preaty common...i recall once reading that Sakura is one of the most popular names for girls in the 1990s and 2000s in japan.Aswell i would like to add the fact that whatever languege and/or counry a name is oriented from it allways has a meaning..as such the name Rober means "bright fame"..or the name of the famous japanese movie directo Akira Kurosawa.. Akira can mean "bright/shining"..it can allso mean "inteligent2 but its stil a common name eventhou what it means may sound unusual as a name for some people —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.131.73.211 ( talk) 23:18, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
In chapter 367, tsunade mentioned a Kuchina Uzumaki. I'm not going to speculate here and say that she is of any known relation to naruto, but I am going to list her for now. busboy 05:33, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
it is stated (naruto manga 367 page 11-12) that se IS naruto's mother. M877y 20:50, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Got it. Adding it now. Busboy 20:55, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
She is not a Konoha ninja, so she doesn't fit this article. - Access Timeco 21:40, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
I can't actually read the new manga as my computer sucks, but I do believe someone said she came from The Whirlpool country. Anyway she is no from Konoha. -- Kaoskaix 00:32, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Someone should add that its rumored that Naruto's parents are The Fourth Hokage and Yugao Uzuki. Also the Second Hokage if I'm correct, had that sword named Sword of Rajin or something simulator to that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uzumaki Dude ( talk • contribs) 21:16, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
Yup, the fourth, and the shinobi from the Whirlpool Country. That's according to Tsunade and Jiraiya anyway. Oh wow, I wonder how many fanboys with that original theory are squealing with delight. -- Conradical247 08:45, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Particularly in the section about the 4th Hokage. The anime (and roughly 90% of the series' fans) are nowhere close to the story developments recently revealed in the manga, and blatantly putting it on the page without warning is really a problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.225.146.44 ( talk) 16:47, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
If your stupid enough to wiki Naruto without expecting spoilers, then they need mental help. ---- Signed by me.
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Instead of calling him the Fourth, shouldn't we just refer to him as just Minato Namikaze? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.181.50.107 ( talk) 15:12, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
Again, spoiler tags are definitely needed for this article, especially pertaining to the Fourth Hokage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.237.149.176 ( talk) 04:20, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
i think it's mostly because they just want to know more about the characters but it is true...you shouldn't come to wiki if you don't want any spoilers. it's just not done. wiki has everything. LOL -- Bloody rock princess ( talk) 15:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
It has yet to be specifically stated that Naruto is indeed Minato's son. It's been danced around a few times in chapter 367, it is stated:
It's never clearly stated that the father is, in fact, Minato. Because of this, I will edit out all attempts to claim Minato as Naruto's father in the article. ~ FallenAngelII 17:53, 28 August 2007 (GMT+1)
you guys are stupid...you need everything in your face...dont you....it is stated that it was naruto's father...who is that other him...it just doesnt make sence to mention him and that him not be fourth.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gettoland DIO ( talk • contribs) 19:40, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
That's fine, it's so obvious that Naruto's father is the 4th. And why shouldn't he be? The anime and manga is only titled, "Naruto" after all. Oh well, when it's official the 4th is his father, people will be scrambling on whether the Akatsuki leader is Naruto's brother. That's too is pretty obvious, when Jiraiya said she's was like one of the boys. Plus Kushina had red hair, Akatsuki leader looks like Naruto, come on guys. The family tree is Namikaze Minato the dad, Kushina Uzumaki the mother, Akatsuki leader is the eldest son, and Naruto is the youngest son. Count on it. Jijjin 00:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Ok Kushina grew up in kanoha... if she didnt, then how would tsunade and jiraya remember her as a child growing up. Maybe she was some important person from the whirlpool country(her last name means whirlpool) and was rescued by minato when the country was being destroyed(its the former whirlool country). Or you could be right and it could be called the former whirlpool country because the name was changed to whatever piens hometown is called... —Preceding
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Ultimate, how bout you ignore what I said about Pein... Now... Do you deny the very high possibility that the 4th is Naruto's father? Jijjin 19:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
First, its THEUltimate if you don't wish to use the 3, otherwise its TheUltimate3. That being said, I go by the manga and the manga pretty much said "Fourth his Naruto's pappy."-- TheUltimate3 20:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
It does not matter if the manga "pretty much says it" or that there's a very "high possibility". Unless you've complete missed it, every time I've edited the article, I've added that "it is heavily implied" they are father and son. Until such time it's said outright and with 100% clarity and that are indeed father and son, it remains a heavily implied blood relation and not a fact and should not be treated as such here on Wikipedia. Head over to the Naruto talk-page where this dispute was settle with compromise of stating that it is heavily implied.-- FallenAngelII 14:57, 7 September 2007 (GMT+1)
Tsunade: Namikaze Minato... The resemblance is undeniable...
Jiraiya: Minato had talent you only see once a decade, at best. He was a genius... No one like him has been born in a while. He was such a nice kid, yet his gut and desire to succeed were the fiercest I'd ever seen. And in a blink of an eye, he was our fourth Hokage. I never had kids, so I don'twhat it was like... But if he'd been my son, I'd have bragged about him all the time.
Tsunade: Haha... Hearing you say that makes me think of how different they are, too. If I had to choose, I'd say he's much more similar to his mother.
Tsunade: Kushina became so beautiful as she grew up... But Naruto does look a lot like his father.
Ryu-chan (Talk) 17:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Of course I agree that after reading this, the 4th is Naruto's father. I'm just warning everyone that the debate is likely to rage on for a while — HisshouBuraiKen
Shonen Jump is released isn't released on Friday. It's released on Wednesday. If it were released on Firday, then there would be no way of recieving it, translating it, and posting it on the same day. Ryu-chan (Talk) | (Contributions) 19:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Since Minato is a notable character and because he is apart of the naruto beginnings couldn't we just add in a picture of him.
Can the 4th being the greatest ninja that was ever produced be changed to. The greatest hokage; and add that the 3rd was the strongest hokage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.137.169.151 ( talk) 08:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
The Fourth's picture was deleted, but there are no pitures on the whole article, and he should have one because he is Naruto's father. I added it so please don't delete it. Ultimaterasengan 20:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I have a question for whoever manages Wikipedia. Why are you deleting all of the pictures? Specifically, the Naruto pictures? I dislike this, because placing images on your website allows people to see what the characters look like. Also, on the characters who have full articles, whose bright idea was it to remove that character's techniques. It is much easier to just type in the characters name and see their techniques than go looking for them. Could someone please respond. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Master auror ( talk • contribs) 21:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I have a question for whoever manages Wikipedia. Why are you deleting all of the pictures? Specifically, the Naruto pictures? I dislike this, because placing images on your website allows people to see what the characters look like. Also, on the characters who have full articles, whose bright idea was it to remove that character's techniques. It is much easier to just type in the characters name and see their techniques than go looking for them. Could someone please respond. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Master auror ( talk • contribs) 21:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
The Flying Thunder God Jutsu does not require a special seal. If you go back to the "Kakashi Gaiden" story arc of the Naruto Manga, you see The Fourth Hokage use the flying thunder god jutsu to save Kakashi from a Rock Ninja and as he grabs Kakashi, he places a seal on the foot of the Rock Ninja. Then he uses the Body Flicker Technique to kill the Rock Ninja. When the Fourth Hokage kills all those other Rock Ninja, he asks the other Leaf Shinobi to throw his special kunai, with a seal on it, at the enemy. Again he does the Body Flicker Technique to kill those Rock Ninja. The Flying Thunder God jutsu works by not using a seal, but by being able to see where you are going/knowing exactly where you are going. I forgot where I read how it works, but it was one of the Naruto websites. The real point is that no one knows how the Flying Thunder God jutsu is done yet.
Tristan76 19:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Idiot tristan is right! no one actually knows there are to many theories about it too. 1 it is pure speed. 2 bloodline limit. 3 it summons the user 4 it really does teleport. 5 it travels along with lightning. 6 cloning o.O. thats just the surface of all the theories most r half baked —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.4.123 ( talk) 17:01, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok whatever prick keeps editing the fourths part, to all crap linking him to akatsuki really needs to stop, theres no proof, if they release that with a future chapter, congrats you were right and still a craping loser, pardon the language but get a life, and take your crap elsewhere. -- 66.231.38.184 22:48, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Why does it say, that the Fourth is "presumably" deceased? Is there any information, that the Fourth did not die sealing the kyiubi? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.167.96.94 ( talk) 17:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
i don't think so. the series specifically said the DEATH OF THE FOURTH HOKAGE. that's why his face is on the side of a mountain! but it would be cool if he was alive and finally be a fthaer to our Naruto. -- Bloody rock princess ( talk) 15:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
In the paragraph about Anko Mitarashi it says ""Anko" and "Mitarashi" are ingredients in dango[...]". Mitarashi is not an ingredient, but the name of the well/ pond in front of Buddhist shrines where people wash themselves before they enter. Mitarashi dango were named after the bubbles that floated on top of the water in the mitarashi pond at the Shimogamo Shrine in Kyōto. ( source) 87.78.21.148 12:01, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Should it be added that "Hayate" can also mean something along the lines of "one who runs fast", referring to his death? 68.56.3.16 18:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
What is the Third's name? I'm guessing it is Asuma,like his son, but if it isn't, then please tell me what it is below. Uzumaki Dude 02:28, 1 November 2007 (UTC).3
Owww yeah, and whats the First's and Second's? again tell me. Uzumaki Dude 02:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
That's currently unknown. Sorry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.163.37 ( talk) 21:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Sandaime Hokage = Asuma Sarutobi.
The First and Seconds names are unknown. His royal majesty, Lord Holy Ono 18:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Why put information on the page that was taken from events that only happen in the fillers for the Anime series and not in the Manga? For example:
Although Mizuki initially seems to have no specific use for the scroll, the anime's filler arcs show that, as a former student of Orochimaru, he intended to give the scroll to his master. After leading a prison revolt to escape from jail, Mizuki uses the instructions depicted on a tattoo given to him by Orochimaru to create a potion. After consuming the potion, Mizuki transforms into a tiger-like man-beast with doubled speed and power, but Naruto manages to defeat him again, with Iruka noting that Naruto has surpassed him. Mizuki, however, is yet another victim of Orochimaru's manipulation, and turns into an angry, shriveled, and powerless old man when the potion dissipates. Tsunade eventually heals him back to his normal state and interrogates him about the whereabouts of Orochimaru, but learns nothing of any use.
How do we know if this is Canon or not if it only happened in the Anime? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.214.131 ( talk) 04:31, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
What the hell happened to all the other Konoha ninja? It seems like there is a huge edit war going on over the fourth hokage and people have allowed quite a few characters fall through the cracks. For example, where's the information on Izumo and Koetsu (spelling is probably wrong) the chunin gate guards? They appear as cameos quite often in both the anime and manga. And what about Genma? Just take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_Konoha_ninja&oldid=168807706 compared to the current page to see how much is missing. I do not have the time nor the desire to get involved in this edit war. I would just request that some responsible party who monitors this page add back the pertinent information. Wikipedia shows up at the top of most any search and people expect to find moderately in depth information about any subject. A list of characters the main character of this series encounters with a sentence or two about each is hardly excessive.-- 130.127.48.188 ( talk) 01:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
There is some Vandalism, lets clean it up and put a ban on new users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrbald ( talk • contribs) 06:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Homura and the other elder should receive a mention in a combined fashion like Izumo & Kotetsu. Also, I originally came to this article looking for the names of the teammates of Konohamaru. I don't think that they deserve their own entry, but their names should at least be mentioned in Konohamaru's. Lore aura ( talk) 18:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
This is really more of a question than a suggestion, but I remember Sakumo Hatake being a part of some list of minor ninja characters, and I assume that it was taken off. Would it be unnecessary to add him to the list of minor characters, since he is only mentiond quite a few times? Or would it be okay to add him back? - Hahligirl56 ( talk) 20:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there a citation for this? I don't recall it being stated in the manga. Is it something from the anime or guidebooks? 24.84.2.239 ( talk) 02:22, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Most of us know who Aoba Yamashiro is.He is a member of the Niju Shotai,and uses crows in his jutsu.He was also one of the Konoha jonin who released genjutsu and fought in the war.He was also the one who told Sasuke about Itachi's return.There used to be a section on him.Now there isnt.He has made quite a few appearences,so where is he? Narutoboy1001 ( talk) 01:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)Narutoboy1001
I agree. He should be put back in.
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07:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I was mentioned in the last naruto manga that Konoha was founded by Madara Uchiha and Someone from the Forest Nation/village who later became the First. Itachi,I believe said his last name was Senju ( the clan he was from is called that) It's on page 10 of Manga 386.Therefore since Itachi states thats the First's clan's name,wouldn't his last name be Senju? Anadentone ( talk) 03:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)Anadentone
Where'd they go? It looks like someone lost them in a reorganization.-- Marhawkman ( talk) 03:00, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I know. There should be a section for anime-only characters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.4.204.47 ( talk) 02:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
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I've figured he must have been somewhere between 18(maybe 20)-37 when he died. Kakashi is 26 in the first arc. Naruto is 13. Kakashi would have been 13 when he died.
And Minato was sensei to Kakashi during Gaiden so he must be older then Kakashi, especially since Kakshi was so underdeveloped at the time.
Jiraiya is 37 or less when Minato died and he was sensei to Minato when he was younger so Jiraiya PROBABLY is more then a few years older then him at the least (we havn't seen a sensei that was younger then the students yet).
That and the fact he seemed engaged to Kushina raises the Japanese Marriage Age. So unless hte marriage isn't in effect I've deduced That His age is 18-37 anyother help to fonrim his age? I think he was 21-29 when he died really, since he seems to still burst ith energy then. but any other ideas to help confirm his age? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.167.35.204 ( talk) 08:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)