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Now, I sorted the various lost lands mentioned here in differend categories and described each category briefly. However, one or two remarks are rather un-encyclopaedic, since I was too tired to put them in a neutral form. Most of the previous parts would better fit in the other articles, Blavatsky, Churchward etc. belong either to the lost continents subsection or directly to Lemuria, Mu, etc. The philosophical influences only seem to aply to Atlantis and should be dealt with there. Concerning Hollow Erath I would leave it to Mrwuggs, since I don't know anything about it. -- Zara1709 15:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Rather than cleaning this up slightly I would suggest to merge it with the Lost Continents, since the best-known lost lands: Atlantis, Mu and Lemuria are the topic of that book anyway. There needs to be an article that gives an overview about the various Lost Continents, even only in form of a list. However, one could not say much more in that article, since almost every other stuff would better belong in the other different articles. For the lost planets one could make a seperate article, also for hollow earth. I would guess, there are books on these topics too. ;) If you agree, Mrwuggs, I could probably do it tomorrow.
Zara1709 18:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Although the book Lost Continents seems to be an excellent source of information (which I would definatly like to see incorperated into the article to keep it from becoming a list)on the most talked about lost lands, I think the heart of the lost lands article is that it is a broad overview of a large body of semi-mythic places which have captured the imaginations of writers. In cleaning up this article, I suggest:
then we offer links to the main articles.
Thanks for taking an interest everyone. I'm sure we can make this article so much more informative if we work together. Mrwuggs 00:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
You're probably right. I just thought that there doesn't need to be an article on everything. -- Zara1709 12:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
We need to either make it not a series of lists or seperate the list from the non-list content without destroying the article. Mrwuggs 19:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Airyana Vaejo and Skherya have previously been added without any info. If you know anything about these, please contribute. Nurg 08:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
There simply shouldn't be two articles on the same topic; we only need to agree on the correct title. I've could get an article by a religious scientists on "Lost Worlds" and use that as a reference, so if there are no other objects I am going to merge the two articles and move it to "Lost Worlds" then, as soon as I find the time. Zara1709 ( talk) 14:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Removing merge template as it is over a year old and no censensus. Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 00:01, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
This is from the section, Phantom Islands:
"Nautical errors"? What does that mean? Did the editor perhaps mean navigational errors or cartographical errors? "Nautical errors" suggests that the sea itself made some kind of mistake. [EDIT] I see that the spin-off article, Phantom Islands, has a very similar sentence in the intro, but the precise wording is "navigational errors". Changing it here to match. 12.233.146.130 ( talk) 19:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I removed a lot of personal, uncited opinion which was also blessed with a very patronising tone. I only got as far as the mythological lands, from whence I removed a tautology: if its mythological, of course scientists dont believe it existed or else we'd call it historical. A grindstone is far superior to wikipedia for sharpening an axe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.36.170 ( talk) 02:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Such as when Krakatoa exploded? Is there a term or is the lost land term to be used to describe the destroyed island? Wzrd1 ( talk) 02:07, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm wondering what "in regards to" means here. Researchers are not usually a subject matter of philosophy, nor is it obvious how lost lands help account for them. — Tamfang ( talk) 04:10, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
This article has a wide variety of problems with it.
Karl.i.biased ( talk) 12:33, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
A recent restored a previous version of the lead which treats lost lands as an entirely mythological concept. Although this version uses language such as "believed by some to have existed" and "ruled impossible by current theories of geology", the list still includes real, scientifically-accepted places such as Doggerland and Ravenser Odd.
Additionally, Seven Cities of Gold was restored with a summary of "This is something significant that many people believed in." Whether or not people believed in its existence is beside the point; the entry was not supported by any source and there is no indication that anyone believed that it submerged or disappeared.
This article is in dire need of a sourced explanation of what a "lost land" actually is. Are we talking real places, fictional places, cartographic errors or all of the above? Which reliable sources tell us what to include or exclude from the list? – dlthewave ☎ 22:40, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
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Now, I sorted the various lost lands mentioned here in differend categories and described each category briefly. However, one or two remarks are rather un-encyclopaedic, since I was too tired to put them in a neutral form. Most of the previous parts would better fit in the other articles, Blavatsky, Churchward etc. belong either to the lost continents subsection or directly to Lemuria, Mu, etc. The philosophical influences only seem to aply to Atlantis and should be dealt with there. Concerning Hollow Erath I would leave it to Mrwuggs, since I don't know anything about it. -- Zara1709 15:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Rather than cleaning this up slightly I would suggest to merge it with the Lost Continents, since the best-known lost lands: Atlantis, Mu and Lemuria are the topic of that book anyway. There needs to be an article that gives an overview about the various Lost Continents, even only in form of a list. However, one could not say much more in that article, since almost every other stuff would better belong in the other different articles. For the lost planets one could make a seperate article, also for hollow earth. I would guess, there are books on these topics too. ;) If you agree, Mrwuggs, I could probably do it tomorrow.
Zara1709 18:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Although the book Lost Continents seems to be an excellent source of information (which I would definatly like to see incorperated into the article to keep it from becoming a list)on the most talked about lost lands, I think the heart of the lost lands article is that it is a broad overview of a large body of semi-mythic places which have captured the imaginations of writers. In cleaning up this article, I suggest:
then we offer links to the main articles.
Thanks for taking an interest everyone. I'm sure we can make this article so much more informative if we work together. Mrwuggs 00:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
You're probably right. I just thought that there doesn't need to be an article on everything. -- Zara1709 12:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
We need to either make it not a series of lists or seperate the list from the non-list content without destroying the article. Mrwuggs 19:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Airyana Vaejo and Skherya have previously been added without any info. If you know anything about these, please contribute. Nurg 08:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
There simply shouldn't be two articles on the same topic; we only need to agree on the correct title. I've could get an article by a religious scientists on "Lost Worlds" and use that as a reference, so if there are no other objects I am going to merge the two articles and move it to "Lost Worlds" then, as soon as I find the time. Zara1709 ( talk) 14:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Removing merge template as it is over a year old and no censensus. Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 00:01, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
This is from the section, Phantom Islands:
"Nautical errors"? What does that mean? Did the editor perhaps mean navigational errors or cartographical errors? "Nautical errors" suggests that the sea itself made some kind of mistake. [EDIT] I see that the spin-off article, Phantom Islands, has a very similar sentence in the intro, but the precise wording is "navigational errors". Changing it here to match. 12.233.146.130 ( talk) 19:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I removed a lot of personal, uncited opinion which was also blessed with a very patronising tone. I only got as far as the mythological lands, from whence I removed a tautology: if its mythological, of course scientists dont believe it existed or else we'd call it historical. A grindstone is far superior to wikipedia for sharpening an axe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.36.170 ( talk) 02:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Such as when Krakatoa exploded? Is there a term or is the lost land term to be used to describe the destroyed island? Wzrd1 ( talk) 02:07, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm wondering what "in regards to" means here. Researchers are not usually a subject matter of philosophy, nor is it obvious how lost lands help account for them. — Tamfang ( talk) 04:10, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
This article has a wide variety of problems with it.
Karl.i.biased ( talk) 12:33, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
A recent restored a previous version of the lead which treats lost lands as an entirely mythological concept. Although this version uses language such as "believed by some to have existed" and "ruled impossible by current theories of geology", the list still includes real, scientifically-accepted places such as Doggerland and Ravenser Odd.
Additionally, Seven Cities of Gold was restored with a summary of "This is something significant that many people believed in." Whether or not people believed in its existence is beside the point; the entry was not supported by any source and there is no indication that anyone believed that it submerged or disappeared.
This article is in dire need of a sourced explanation of what a "lost land" actually is. Are we talking real places, fictional places, cartographic errors or all of the above? Which reliable sources tell us what to include or exclude from the list? – dlthewave ☎ 22:40, 15 May 2019 (UTC)