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An anon editor made this change, which I reverted for these reasons:
you added at the end the following words, which I honestly cannot make sense of:
Would you like to have another try at expressing that thought? -- llywrch 04:45, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Some of the actual text no longer seems to make sense, and seems written in an overly chatty style -- particulary where someone references a 'mistake'. It's not clear whether they mean a mistake in the text of the article, or a mistake in the derivation, or some other kind of mistake.
On the 'Island of Apples' controversy, 'Island of Apples' [1]is given by Geoffrey of Monmouth in Vita Merlini, referencing the place where Arthur was taken to heal his wounds. In History of the Kings of Britain, Geoffrey names this place as Avallon. Geoffrey, of course, may well be wrong, but this is a substantially more established derivation than the Annwn derivation, which seems phonologically unlikely. There was a vast industry, for which Loomis must take some responsibility, of supplying supposed derivations and linkages for Arthurian terms. I should like to see the Annwn proposition referenced properly to an early text, if someone has such a reference. Martin Turner 14:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Note further that the etymology given here is in conflict with that given under 'etymology' for the head article Avalon. Martin Turner 14:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
As no-one has responded here, I've gone back and deleted those sentences, as it looks like someone was posting on the main article when they should have been posting on the talk page. Since there is a complete discussion of the etymology under the head-word Avalon, it seems more sensible not to reproduce it inconsistently here. Martin Turner 13:41, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
References
Reference to this poem removed; it is not recognized by academic researchers as a genuinely early poem and is only found in post-medieval manuscripts, not the 13th-century Book of Taliesin. Hrothgar cyning ( talk) 23:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I noticed the Roxburgh-as-Camelot, and I though it ought to be mentioned that in the same book he mentions the near-island by Roxburgh is the Avalon of legend, or very like it. Perhaps this ought to be mentioned in the article. -- -G.T.N. ( talk) 22:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed this bit:
I just watched that episode - List_of_Time_Team_episodes#Special 2008 yesterday and they were very specific that they were looking for a building made by a King Edward (I think it was Edward IV of England) as a tribute to King Arthur.
They never once suggested King Arthur had ever been near Windsor. Filceolaire ( talk) 17:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Which according to Tennyson was an island upstream but within sight of Camelot - on which 'The Lady of Shalott' was immured in her tower. Where on earth did he get the name from, with its inevitable unfortunate association with onions? 86.187.162.138 ( talk) 16:57, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 16:40, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Locations associated with Arthurian legend → List of locations associated with Arthurian legend – This article may be more suitable as a list. BlackShadowG ★( talk) 10:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
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An anon editor made this change, which I reverted for these reasons:
you added at the end the following words, which I honestly cannot make sense of:
Would you like to have another try at expressing that thought? -- llywrch 04:45, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Some of the actual text no longer seems to make sense, and seems written in an overly chatty style -- particulary where someone references a 'mistake'. It's not clear whether they mean a mistake in the text of the article, or a mistake in the derivation, or some other kind of mistake.
On the 'Island of Apples' controversy, 'Island of Apples' [1]is given by Geoffrey of Monmouth in Vita Merlini, referencing the place where Arthur was taken to heal his wounds. In History of the Kings of Britain, Geoffrey names this place as Avallon. Geoffrey, of course, may well be wrong, but this is a substantially more established derivation than the Annwn derivation, which seems phonologically unlikely. There was a vast industry, for which Loomis must take some responsibility, of supplying supposed derivations and linkages for Arthurian terms. I should like to see the Annwn proposition referenced properly to an early text, if someone has such a reference. Martin Turner 14:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Note further that the etymology given here is in conflict with that given under 'etymology' for the head article Avalon. Martin Turner 14:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
As no-one has responded here, I've gone back and deleted those sentences, as it looks like someone was posting on the main article when they should have been posting on the talk page. Since there is a complete discussion of the etymology under the head-word Avalon, it seems more sensible not to reproduce it inconsistently here. Martin Turner 13:41, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
References
Reference to this poem removed; it is not recognized by academic researchers as a genuinely early poem and is only found in post-medieval manuscripts, not the 13th-century Book of Taliesin. Hrothgar cyning ( talk) 23:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I noticed the Roxburgh-as-Camelot, and I though it ought to be mentioned that in the same book he mentions the near-island by Roxburgh is the Avalon of legend, or very like it. Perhaps this ought to be mentioned in the article. -- -G.T.N. ( talk) 22:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed this bit:
I just watched that episode - List_of_Time_Team_episodes#Special 2008 yesterday and they were very specific that they were looking for a building made by a King Edward (I think it was Edward IV of England) as a tribute to King Arthur.
They never once suggested King Arthur had ever been near Windsor. Filceolaire ( talk) 17:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Which according to Tennyson was an island upstream but within sight of Camelot - on which 'The Lady of Shalott' was immured in her tower. Where on earth did he get the name from, with its inevitable unfortunate association with onions? 86.187.162.138 ( talk) 16:57, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 16:40, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Locations associated with Arthurian legend → List of locations associated with Arthurian legend – This article may be more suitable as a list. BlackShadowG ★( talk) 10:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)