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Anyone know who the last veteran was of the following wars?
- English Civil War - Last Roundhead
- French and Indian Wars
- Texas War of Independence
- Seminole Wars
- Chaco War
- Bolivar's War
- Sino-Japanese War
- Greek War of Independence
- Indian Mutiny
- Afghan War
- Philippine-American War
- Austro-Prussian War
- Prussian-Danish War
the source that, as today (January 7 2009) there's no surviving veteran is absurd.
Messenger Feliciano Mejia of Zapata's Army and Corporal Antonio Gómez Delgado of the División del Norte army are both 108 years old please review this mistakes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.225.83.4 ( talk) 02:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- Garcia was the last Federal (government) soldier, not the last veteran of the war. As with the other entries, the last survivor from each side is listed (ie, last Union and Confederate soldier from the American Civil War). Thank you for listing the surviving Zapatistas. Do you have a citation for that? Czolgolz ( talk) 04:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
In a number of articles Krichevsky himself stated that when the October Revolution started he left the army and went to Engineering College rather than participate [1], [2]. He is however the last known survivor of the Russian Imperial Army. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brucexyz ( talk • contribs) 02:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Should this really be included? It doesn't seem to fit here as any kind of military conflict, much less a war. That-Vela-Fella ( talk) 05:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
I like this page - however, it would seem to me that it gets a little confusing at bottom in regards to wars that still have living veterans. It is not easy to discern at a casual glance who of the listed veterans is still alive and who has passed on. Thus answering the simple question, are there any survivors still living from that particular conflict?
I would suggest that to make this clear, only living veterans should be bolded whilst those who have since passed on should not be. This would certainly make it much clearer. Thoughts? 202.139.104.226 ( talk) 05:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- agreed - Wikipedia MoS on the subject ( MOS:BOLD#Boldface) generally limits the occasions to use bolding, and I personally agree. Unless by a stretch one calls this a definition list. ( Help:List) Your suggestion at least limits bolding to what would be, based on current scope of the page, the minority of entries. Cander0000 ( talk) 06:58, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Disagree This page should only list last veteran of conflicts where there are no remaining veterans still living. WWI does not qualify, just as the Vietnam war and the Gulf war do not qualify. Fanx ( talk) 21:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello, regarding User:Statisticians edits, I am concerned that he is claming the death of Helmut Fink without references, this was Statisticians last edit summary: Helmut Fink died 27.04.2009 - there was no articel in the internet about it. Which means unless proven dead with WP:Reliable sources mr fink must remain alive on wikipedia or? Gsmgm ( talk) 20:34, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Mimi Colligen's book on panoramas in Australia discusses the elderly gentleman who claimed to be an English veteran of the battle of waterloo who lived in Melbourne and was an attraction at the Battle of Waterloo cyclorama - I am not certain of his dates but he may be alive later than the British veteran listed as the last British survivor of the Napoleonic wars in the wikipedia article
Bebe Jumeau ( talk) 15:42, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
The list of veterans of WW I has dwindled to just four sadly. Time for a merge. Marcus Qwertyus 07:09, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- That's no reason to merge to merge that article with this one, they serve 2 different purposes. DerbyCountyinNZ ( Talk Contribs) 07:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- Beyond which the history of this important list is a factor in of itself. Ravenswing 15:31, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose This list seems like it should be the 'last living' veterans of each conflict, as in they 'were' (past tense) the 'last to live' veteran from the conflict. The other list has it's own lifecycle to follow, perhaps morphing to a different form when the eventuallity arrives. Not a big deal to also list the 3 verified vets from WWI on this list as they are 'candidates', and that can be reasonably inferred from the 'birth date - present' after their names. Cander0000 ( talk) 04:24, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose Not while a single veteran remains. Fanx ( talk) 21:22, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose As stated above the articles serve two very different purposes. Once the WW1 Vets eventually die off, that war will take its place on the list. Not before. Kukamunga13 ( talk) 14:08, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Eventually, hopefully not soon, it can be merged into List of veterans of World War I wo died in 2009-XX| (where "XX" represents '11, '12, '13, whatever the latest date may be...).-- Tim Thomason 00:14, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
No please do not merge yet. There are 3 veterans. Give it more time. If we list now, we would have one woman which would be alright to list as last female of WWI, but we at present have two men. As long as we have two members of the same sex, lets keep it as it is. Sadly you will not have to wait long. Even the family of one veteran does not think they we be around in May of 2011. Both the men are slowing down a lot. Not sure how Ms. Green is doing (fine I hope). (PershingBoy) 63.3.10.1 ( talk) 03:49, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
nothing in the guillet article says he's the last veteran of the ethiopian war from '35-'36... can anyone confirm whether he really was the last or not? Capt Jim ( talk) 07:26, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Seems like the criteria need to be better defined. Are we looking for the last one or the last two or the last three for each war? Anythingyouwant ( talk) 00:29, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
He was the last American veteran, but not the last total. I don't object to keeping Choules as he was the last combat veteran (to differentiate from Green), but I think that Buckles should simply appear in the list of last WWI veterans by country. Alternately we could also include the last Central Powers veteran for a contrast (like the Civil War does for Union and Confederate). No disrespect to Mr. Buckles, of course, it just doesn't seem that he has any distinguishing characteristics in this category other than being the last American WWI vet, when so many countries fought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.156.56.240 ( talk) 04:35, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- As said earlier on criteria, it should be as the title of the article says by being the "last" living and irrespective of nationality. Since there are 2 sides of a war, I won't deny of the other last living vet from the opposing side to being added as such. So if on the same side & combative involvement, then it should be removed accordingly. That-Vela-Fella ( talk) 00:44, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Jacob Christiansen Drakenberg's age should have a dubious tag attached to it, he couldn't have lived from 1626-1772 (That's 146 years). His lifespan was probably 30-40 years shorter. 1779Days ( talk) 00:52, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
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Anyone know who the last veteran was of the following wars?
- English Civil War - Last Roundhead
- French and Indian Wars
- Texas War of Independence
- Seminole Wars
- Chaco War
- Bolivar's War
- Sino-Japanese War
- Greek War of Independence
- Indian Mutiny
- Afghan War
- Philippine-American War
- Austro-Prussian War
- Prussian-Danish War
the source that, as today (January 7 2009) there's no surviving veteran is absurd.
Messenger Feliciano Mejia of Zapata's Army and Corporal Antonio Gómez Delgado of the División del Norte army are both 108 years old please review this mistakes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.225.83.4 ( talk) 02:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- Garcia was the last Federal (government) soldier, not the last veteran of the war. As with the other entries, the last survivor from each side is listed (ie, last Union and Confederate soldier from the American Civil War). Thank you for listing the surviving Zapatistas. Do you have a citation for that? Czolgolz ( talk) 04:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
In a number of articles Krichevsky himself stated that when the October Revolution started he left the army and went to Engineering College rather than participate [1], [2]. He is however the last known survivor of the Russian Imperial Army. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brucexyz ( talk • contribs) 02:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Should this really be included? It doesn't seem to fit here as any kind of military conflict, much less a war. That-Vela-Fella ( talk) 05:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
I like this page - however, it would seem to me that it gets a little confusing at bottom in regards to wars that still have living veterans. It is not easy to discern at a casual glance who of the listed veterans is still alive and who has passed on. Thus answering the simple question, are there any survivors still living from that particular conflict?
I would suggest that to make this clear, only living veterans should be bolded whilst those who have since passed on should not be. This would certainly make it much clearer. Thoughts? 202.139.104.226 ( talk) 05:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- agreed - Wikipedia MoS on the subject ( MOS:BOLD#Boldface) generally limits the occasions to use bolding, and I personally agree. Unless by a stretch one calls this a definition list. ( Help:List) Your suggestion at least limits bolding to what would be, based on current scope of the page, the minority of entries. Cander0000 ( talk) 06:58, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Disagree This page should only list last veteran of conflicts where there are no remaining veterans still living. WWI does not qualify, just as the Vietnam war and the Gulf war do not qualify. Fanx ( talk) 21:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello, regarding User:Statisticians edits, I am concerned that he is claming the death of Helmut Fink without references, this was Statisticians last edit summary: Helmut Fink died 27.04.2009 - there was no articel in the internet about it. Which means unless proven dead with WP:Reliable sources mr fink must remain alive on wikipedia or? Gsmgm ( talk) 20:34, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Mimi Colligen's book on panoramas in Australia discusses the elderly gentleman who claimed to be an English veteran of the battle of waterloo who lived in Melbourne and was an attraction at the Battle of Waterloo cyclorama - I am not certain of his dates but he may be alive later than the British veteran listed as the last British survivor of the Napoleonic wars in the wikipedia article
Bebe Jumeau ( talk) 15:42, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
The list of veterans of WW I has dwindled to just four sadly. Time for a merge. Marcus Qwertyus 07:09, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- That's no reason to merge to merge that article with this one, they serve 2 different purposes. DerbyCountyinNZ ( Talk Contribs) 07:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- Beyond which the history of this important list is a factor in of itself. Ravenswing 15:31, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose This list seems like it should be the 'last living' veterans of each conflict, as in they 'were' (past tense) the 'last to live' veteran from the conflict. The other list has it's own lifecycle to follow, perhaps morphing to a different form when the eventuallity arrives. Not a big deal to also list the 3 verified vets from WWI on this list as they are 'candidates', and that can be reasonably inferred from the 'birth date - present' after their names. Cander0000 ( talk) 04:24, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose Not while a single veteran remains. Fanx ( talk) 21:22, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose As stated above the articles serve two very different purposes. Once the WW1 Vets eventually die off, that war will take its place on the list. Not before. Kukamunga13 ( talk) 14:08, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Eventually, hopefully not soon, it can be merged into List of veterans of World War I wo died in 2009-XX| (where "XX" represents '11, '12, '13, whatever the latest date may be...).-- Tim Thomason 00:14, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
No please do not merge yet. There are 3 veterans. Give it more time. If we list now, we would have one woman which would be alright to list as last female of WWI, but we at present have two men. As long as we have two members of the same sex, lets keep it as it is. Sadly you will not have to wait long. Even the family of one veteran does not think they we be around in May of 2011. Both the men are slowing down a lot. Not sure how Ms. Green is doing (fine I hope). (PershingBoy) 63.3.10.1 ( talk) 03:49, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
nothing in the guillet article says he's the last veteran of the ethiopian war from '35-'36... can anyone confirm whether he really was the last or not? Capt Jim ( talk) 07:26, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Seems like the criteria need to be better defined. Are we looking for the last one or the last two or the last three for each war? Anythingyouwant ( talk) 00:29, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
He was the last American veteran, but not the last total. I don't object to keeping Choules as he was the last combat veteran (to differentiate from Green), but I think that Buckles should simply appear in the list of last WWI veterans by country. Alternately we could also include the last Central Powers veteran for a contrast (like the Civil War does for Union and Confederate). No disrespect to Mr. Buckles, of course, it just doesn't seem that he has any distinguishing characteristics in this category other than being the last American WWI vet, when so many countries fought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.156.56.240 ( talk) 04:35, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- As said earlier on criteria, it should be as the title of the article says by being the "last" living and irrespective of nationality. Since there are 2 sides of a war, I won't deny of the other last living vet from the opposing side to being added as such. So if on the same side & combative involvement, then it should be removed accordingly. That-Vela-Fella ( talk) 00:44, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Jacob Christiansen Drakenberg's age should have a dubious tag attached to it, he couldn't have lived from 1626-1772 (That's 146 years). His lifespan was probably 30-40 years shorter. 1779Days ( talk) 00:52, 5 August 2011 (UTC)