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That is very interesting list. My question is how to deal with power station with more possible sources? It's not unusual for plants with steam and gas turbines. Some of them are switching them during year or mixing sources directly. -- 78.108.106.253 ( talk) 00:32, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I have started in creating stub articles on those redlinks listed in this page. I am quite sure that it will not violate any notability restrictions; it is one of the five largest power stations of its kind, in the world. I wouldnt mind help at all, so feel free to pick up a redlink and turn it into an article. But do remember to categorize, source and inter-link the article to avoid it being an orphan, unsourced article, or similar. Thanks and regards. Rehman( +) 09:47, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
What does this recently added "maximum" capacity mean? I know about current capacity (that is for me relevant for this list), capacity in construction (should be also listed, but not as primary, as not all in construction is finally built) or capacity planned (for this even strongly not all planned is finally built). Or does it mean maximum current capacity (that can be relevant for Itaipu for example). -- 78.108.106.253 ( talk) 16:20, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Calling nuclear power non-renewable, but solar power renewable, is a silly arbitrary distinction. Both consume a fuel that will eventually run out. The only salient difference is that we can't control how quickly the sun consumes hydrogen, but we can control how quickly we consume uranium, lithium, hydrogen, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.85.196.138 ( talk) 09:56, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
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Uljin Nuclear Power Plant is missing from the top 10. Beagel ( talk) 16:59, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
I was poking through this list and it is really good but I think there should be a "top ten" or so list of the overall largest. My immediate feeling is that I would see something like that on this article. I know there is a nice partial blurb in the lead but a list would be great. Also, what is stopped this list from being or close to being featured?-- NortyNort (Holla) 14:00, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Is "in the world" really necessary? Such is routinely assumed on similar lists without the needless qualifier of "on Earth" or "in the world" or "on the planet"? If there were space-based power stations, I suspect they should be included here... Savidan 04:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
As the Rovigo Photovoltaic Power Plant is operational now, it should be added to the list. Beagel ( talk) 22:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Good day. I compliment the authors on this excellent list. As I have worked in this industry for many years, and now lecture on it, I find it most informative. Thank you! There is no discussion section for Coal-fired plants so I place my comment here. The table lists Tuoketuo plant as 2nd largest with Capacity of 5,400MW. However I cannot verify this from the descriptions available on Internet in English, and cannot read the Chinese ones. The Datang Power site gives its capacity as 3000MW (6 x 500) and their 2010 Annual Announcement gives its Annual Output as 4.4795 billion kWh, which seems to confirm this. Is the capacity stated in the list verifiable? [Bev Lawrence - South Africa] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.2.126.173 ( talk) 10:06, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
-- 86.160.220.168 ( talk) 20:42, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
The James Bay complex in Quebec has 16,000 MW of installed capacity, which should make it no. 2 in the world behind Three Gorges.
RWH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.195.65.96 ( talk) 17:07, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
As of 2012, Alta wind is claimed to produce more power than the Roscoe Wind farm. I will update the list. 72.78.17.101 ( talk) 20:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solarpark_Meuro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ise-nr ( talk • contribs) 17:07, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Please note members of the EU are soveriegn states. I am editing the page to highlight their national flags. Referring to the EU as a country causes offence to many and should be left out of a non-political article. National flags only if country is cited. Europe as a region can carry the flag of Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.6.91 ( talk) 14:30, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Is there electro, heating, or electro+heating capacity? Burger81 ( talk) 15:11, 9 February 2010 (UTC).
I think Burger81 may have gone now, however I suspect the question was directed toward Combined heat and power or Cogeneration. These plants are sized by thermal output, not just electrical. Any thought? I would think the thermal output of the heat source is the only parameter to use.-- Graham Proud ( talk) 04:24, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I have been looking for the single largest generating unit in each country. I think within this article is the best place, rather than create another article for this small list. Here is what I have so far:
Any suggestions? Thanks!-- Graham Proud ( talk) 10:04, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
I get it. How about something like this:
Country | Largest facility | Capacity | Fuel type | Location | Ref | Largest unit | Capacity | Fuel type | Location | Ref | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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Example4 Power Station | 80,000 | Hydropower | 01°00′00″N 01°00′00″E / 1.00000°N 1.00000°E | 1 | Unit-4 of Example6 Power Station | 800 | Diesel | 01°00′00″S 01°00′00″W / 1.00000°S 1.00000°W | 2 |
This way, we could still stick to one country per row. -- Reh man 01:04, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Looks like we have nailed it! Now we have a lot of work to do...how do we enlist help? You seem like part of the Wikipedia family...-- Graham Proud ( talk) 03:52, 5 January 2014 (UTC) This is a BIG job! I am also updating / adding entries in the List of power stations in <country> articles as I go. Since it is such a big job...I am wondering if the References and Location columns are necessary, if we are linking to WP articles on the actual plants.-- Graham Proud ( talk) 07:01, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
The list is good idea, but at current location it is a bit hidden. Consider to move it to separate article or articles (like List of largest power stations by country and List of largest power units by country). -- Jklamo ( talk) 10:07, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I propose some reduction of types in renewables section. Namely these:
-- Jklamo ( talk) 10:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I have removed the "Storage stations" section, as such a section would basically duplicate the whole list again. The existing "molten salt" is a duplicate of "CSP", because the salt is melted with that same tech. Same with compressed air. The cycle goes on and we could create various "storage" entries in such a section. Reh man 13:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi
Gproud. I don't believe it's a good idea to
add all the lists of power stations by country within this article, as the nav template at the end of the page essentially serves the same purpose. And suppose all lists of all countries are filled in, it would not be a pleasent sight. What I think is a better idea is to change the country links so that it directs the reader to a more relevant "List of power stations in xx" article. Example: '''{{Flagicon|Sri Lanka}} [[List of power stations in Sri Lanka|Sri Lanka]]'''
. Which gives:
Sri Lanka. Best regards.
Reh
man
12:14, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Related to the topic of FL below, could the team take a look at my comment and questions over at Boiler Plate for New List articles? Thanks,-- Graham Proud ( talk) 12:04, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
In the list of Concentrated solar thermal plants, SEGS is shown as two projects. Elsewhere it appears as one. Listing just one entry in this table would enable us to show another noteworthy entry from somewhere else...-- Graham Proud ( talk) 09:47, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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The data for the Shoaiba power plant in Saudi Arabia suggests an installed capacity of 5,600MW and annual production of 132 TWh. The 5,600MW is sourced from an article by Alstom, the builders of the power plant but the 132 TWh has no source. It is not possible to produce this amount of power from a power plant of this size - the max from a 5,600MW plant over a year would be 49.056 TWh.
The installed capacity of Taichung power plant is given as 5,500 MW in the main (Top 20) list, while in the list of Top 10 coal-fired power stations, it is 7,424 MW. This information is misleading and requires correction. Info199 ( talk) 20:06, 11 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Info199 ( talk • contribs) 20:03, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Sure, if its built, the Igna dam will be the largest power plant in the world, but the plausibility is ridiculous from a political or financial standpoint. DRC is not Somalia, but it is pretty close to a failed state where the military can barely keep the peace. The country has difficulty in attracting any investment outside of mining due to extreme corruption and political instability. For it to attract 80 billion dollars in investment is beyond impossible for at least a few decades. From this perspective, this proposed Igna dam is no more plausible than some future mega-100000MW-fusion plant, its not suited to be listed as a 'potential future largest power plant'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uishax ( talk • contribs) 06:32, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Also, the feasibility study, started in 2011, is still in a limbo in 2013 ( http://www.internationalrivers.org/blogs/266), further evidence that the project is just a pipedream. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uishax ( talk • contribs) 09:25, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
On particular types of power stations is missing from this list which is Waste-to-energy power stations, would someone be able to find information to produce a section listing the largest Waste-to-Energy power stations? Stormchaser89 ( talk) 02:50, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
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The largest powerstations mentioned, the Geysirs is not one powerstation, but a field of 22 powerplants. What is the definition of a powerstation used here to determine the biggest? Jochum ( talk) 02:25, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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Two companies operate geothermal at The Geysers now: Calpine has 15 plants totaling ~634 MW Calpine site with stats including power plant counts, Northern California Power Agency has two plants totaling 220 MW per plant production data. That's 854 MW total. According to Calpine history, peak production was 2043 MW in 1987. The page currently says ~1517 MW. That's either too low or too high, depending on how you count things. -- Elijah ( talk) 07:24, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
The number for the Gansu wind farm would put it in the main list if the main list is based on capacity (but probably not if based on annual output, since wind tends to have a relatively low load factor). Should it go in there (replacing the inoperative Japanese nuclear plant?)? Lavateraguy ( talk) 16:25, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
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That is very interesting list. My question is how to deal with power station with more possible sources? It's not unusual for plants with steam and gas turbines. Some of them are switching them during year or mixing sources directly. -- 78.108.106.253 ( talk) 00:32, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I have started in creating stub articles on those redlinks listed in this page. I am quite sure that it will not violate any notability restrictions; it is one of the five largest power stations of its kind, in the world. I wouldnt mind help at all, so feel free to pick up a redlink and turn it into an article. But do remember to categorize, source and inter-link the article to avoid it being an orphan, unsourced article, or similar. Thanks and regards. Rehman( +) 09:47, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
What does this recently added "maximum" capacity mean? I know about current capacity (that is for me relevant for this list), capacity in construction (should be also listed, but not as primary, as not all in construction is finally built) or capacity planned (for this even strongly not all planned is finally built). Or does it mean maximum current capacity (that can be relevant for Itaipu for example). -- 78.108.106.253 ( talk) 16:20, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Calling nuclear power non-renewable, but solar power renewable, is a silly arbitrary distinction. Both consume a fuel that will eventually run out. The only salient difference is that we can't control how quickly the sun consumes hydrogen, but we can control how quickly we consume uranium, lithium, hydrogen, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.85.196.138 ( talk) 09:56, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
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Uljin Nuclear Power Plant is missing from the top 10. Beagel ( talk) 16:59, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
I was poking through this list and it is really good but I think there should be a "top ten" or so list of the overall largest. My immediate feeling is that I would see something like that on this article. I know there is a nice partial blurb in the lead but a list would be great. Also, what is stopped this list from being or close to being featured?-- NortyNort (Holla) 14:00, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Is "in the world" really necessary? Such is routinely assumed on similar lists without the needless qualifier of "on Earth" or "in the world" or "on the planet"? If there were space-based power stations, I suspect they should be included here... Savidan 04:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
As the Rovigo Photovoltaic Power Plant is operational now, it should be added to the list. Beagel ( talk) 22:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Good day. I compliment the authors on this excellent list. As I have worked in this industry for many years, and now lecture on it, I find it most informative. Thank you! There is no discussion section for Coal-fired plants so I place my comment here. The table lists Tuoketuo plant as 2nd largest with Capacity of 5,400MW. However I cannot verify this from the descriptions available on Internet in English, and cannot read the Chinese ones. The Datang Power site gives its capacity as 3000MW (6 x 500) and their 2010 Annual Announcement gives its Annual Output as 4.4795 billion kWh, which seems to confirm this. Is the capacity stated in the list verifiable? [Bev Lawrence - South Africa] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.2.126.173 ( talk) 10:06, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
-- 86.160.220.168 ( talk) 20:42, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
The James Bay complex in Quebec has 16,000 MW of installed capacity, which should make it no. 2 in the world behind Three Gorges.
RWH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.195.65.96 ( talk) 17:07, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
As of 2012, Alta wind is claimed to produce more power than the Roscoe Wind farm. I will update the list. 72.78.17.101 ( talk) 20:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solarpark_Meuro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ise-nr ( talk • contribs) 17:07, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Please note members of the EU are soveriegn states. I am editing the page to highlight their national flags. Referring to the EU as a country causes offence to many and should be left out of a non-political article. National flags only if country is cited. Europe as a region can carry the flag of Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.6.91 ( talk) 14:30, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Is there electro, heating, or electro+heating capacity? Burger81 ( talk) 15:11, 9 February 2010 (UTC).
I think Burger81 may have gone now, however I suspect the question was directed toward Combined heat and power or Cogeneration. These plants are sized by thermal output, not just electrical. Any thought? I would think the thermal output of the heat source is the only parameter to use.-- Graham Proud ( talk) 04:24, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I have been looking for the single largest generating unit in each country. I think within this article is the best place, rather than create another article for this small list. Here is what I have so far:
Any suggestions? Thanks!-- Graham Proud ( talk) 10:04, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
I get it. How about something like this:
Country | Largest facility | Capacity | Fuel type | Location | Ref | Largest unit | Capacity | Fuel type | Location | Ref | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
![]() |
Example4 Power Station | 80,000 | Hydropower | 01°00′00″N 01°00′00″E / 1.00000°N 1.00000°E | 1 | Unit-4 of Example6 Power Station | 800 | Diesel | 01°00′00″S 01°00′00″W / 1.00000°S 1.00000°W | 2 |
This way, we could still stick to one country per row. -- Reh man 01:04, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Looks like we have nailed it! Now we have a lot of work to do...how do we enlist help? You seem like part of the Wikipedia family...-- Graham Proud ( talk) 03:52, 5 January 2014 (UTC) This is a BIG job! I am also updating / adding entries in the List of power stations in <country> articles as I go. Since it is such a big job...I am wondering if the References and Location columns are necessary, if we are linking to WP articles on the actual plants.-- Graham Proud ( talk) 07:01, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
The list is good idea, but at current location it is a bit hidden. Consider to move it to separate article or articles (like List of largest power stations by country and List of largest power units by country). -- Jklamo ( talk) 10:07, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I propose some reduction of types in renewables section. Namely these:
-- Jklamo ( talk) 10:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I have removed the "Storage stations" section, as such a section would basically duplicate the whole list again. The existing "molten salt" is a duplicate of "CSP", because the salt is melted with that same tech. Same with compressed air. The cycle goes on and we could create various "storage" entries in such a section. Reh man 13:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi
Gproud. I don't believe it's a good idea to
add all the lists of power stations by country within this article, as the nav template at the end of the page essentially serves the same purpose. And suppose all lists of all countries are filled in, it would not be a pleasent sight. What I think is a better idea is to change the country links so that it directs the reader to a more relevant "List of power stations in xx" article. Example: '''{{Flagicon|Sri Lanka}} [[List of power stations in Sri Lanka|Sri Lanka]]'''
. Which gives:
Sri Lanka. Best regards.
Reh
man
12:14, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Related to the topic of FL below, could the team take a look at my comment and questions over at Boiler Plate for New List articles? Thanks,-- Graham Proud ( talk) 12:04, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
In the list of Concentrated solar thermal plants, SEGS is shown as two projects. Elsewhere it appears as one. Listing just one entry in this table would enable us to show another noteworthy entry from somewhere else...-- Graham Proud ( talk) 09:47, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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The data for the Shoaiba power plant in Saudi Arabia suggests an installed capacity of 5,600MW and annual production of 132 TWh. The 5,600MW is sourced from an article by Alstom, the builders of the power plant but the 132 TWh has no source. It is not possible to produce this amount of power from a power plant of this size - the max from a 5,600MW plant over a year would be 49.056 TWh.
The installed capacity of Taichung power plant is given as 5,500 MW in the main (Top 20) list, while in the list of Top 10 coal-fired power stations, it is 7,424 MW. This information is misleading and requires correction. Info199 ( talk) 20:06, 11 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Info199 ( talk • contribs) 20:03, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Sure, if its built, the Igna dam will be the largest power plant in the world, but the plausibility is ridiculous from a political or financial standpoint. DRC is not Somalia, but it is pretty close to a failed state where the military can barely keep the peace. The country has difficulty in attracting any investment outside of mining due to extreme corruption and political instability. For it to attract 80 billion dollars in investment is beyond impossible for at least a few decades. From this perspective, this proposed Igna dam is no more plausible than some future mega-100000MW-fusion plant, its not suited to be listed as a 'potential future largest power plant'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uishax ( talk • contribs) 06:32, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Also, the feasibility study, started in 2011, is still in a limbo in 2013 ( http://www.internationalrivers.org/blogs/266), further evidence that the project is just a pipedream. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uishax ( talk • contribs) 09:25, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
On particular types of power stations is missing from this list which is Waste-to-energy power stations, would someone be able to find information to produce a section listing the largest Waste-to-Energy power stations? Stormchaser89 ( talk) 02:50, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
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The largest powerstations mentioned, the Geysirs is not one powerstation, but a field of 22 powerplants. What is the definition of a powerstation used here to determine the biggest? Jochum ( talk) 02:25, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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Two companies operate geothermal at The Geysers now: Calpine has 15 plants totaling ~634 MW Calpine site with stats including power plant counts, Northern California Power Agency has two plants totaling 220 MW per plant production data. That's 854 MW total. According to Calpine history, peak production was 2043 MW in 1987. The page currently says ~1517 MW. That's either too low or too high, depending on how you count things. -- Elijah ( talk) 07:24, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
The number for the Gansu wind farm would put it in the main list if the main list is based on capacity (but probably not if based on annual output, since wind tends to have a relatively low load factor). Should it go in there (replacing the inoperative Japanese nuclear plant?)? Lavateraguy ( talk) 16:25, 20 January 2019 (UTC)