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Removing the names of Marines who have made history in the Corps is considered vandalism and may deemed as rascist since the names removed are Hispanics. Joseph V. Medina, made USMC history when he became the first Marine in history to take command of a Naval flotilla, Angela Salinas made USMC history when she became the first Hispanic female to become a United States Marine Corps general officer and the first woman to command the Recruit Depot. France Silva was the first Hispanic-American Marine Medal of Honor and Pedro del Valle not only became the first Hispanic to reach the rank of Lieutenant General, del Valle led Company A of the 1st Battalion 5th Marines to capture Shuri Castle, a medieval fortress of the ancient Ryukyuan kings. Seizure of Shuri Castle represented a moral blow for the Japanese and was an undeniable milestone in the Okinawa campaign during World War II. If there is any doubt as to the historical contributions of these people then consult: United States Marine Corps Historical Division. Further deletion of content may led to edit blocking. Tony the Marine 05:46, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Is this the best name for this article? I'm not contesting the list itself, but I wonder if "historically important" is the best possible descriptor (and, as a side note, if it is the best title, shouldn't it be lower-case to conform to naming conventions?). Carom ( talk) 05:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
This articles was tagged as possible original research, needing references. All on this list have the summarized details in their referenced Wikipedia articles. I've added a few citations, but the nature of the list — with each person having a Wikipedia article — makes it implicitly referenced. — ERcheck ( talk) 00:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
It could be argued that all of the Medal of Honor recipients, sergeants major of the Marine Corps and the Commandants should be on this list. Before I add them however I would like to request input on this statement. -- Kumioko ( talk) 20:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Apparently, if we leave blank lines between items in a list, then the wiki software declares it to be a bunch of unrelated, single-item lists. This means that anyone who uses a screen reader hears "A list of one item" before each and every item on the page. Consequently, the folks at WP:ACCESS have requested that we please remove the inappropriate blank lines. I've done this for this page, and ask for your help in keeping it that way. Thanks, WhatamIdoing ( talk) 17:31, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Recommend removing John Ripley. Although certainly a notable Marine & great example, I don't believe being in the a Hall of Fame makes you "historically notable". Thanks! FieldMarine ( talk) 00:29, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Putting your formula to test, explain how Ripley fits the criteria so as not to waste anyone's time with other suggested names. Otherwise, this whole project loses it's credibility and violates the Wikpedia requirements of nuetrality which I believe your organization agreed to before hand. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 11:53, 24 March 2011 (UTC) Let us be fair. Ripley doesn't belong on this list. Why haven't you removed him yet? Monte Melkonian ( talk) 21:24, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Why did you omit Victor Maghakian's endearing nicknames given to him by his regiment and commanding officer? If "Pappy" can have nicknames, why can't "Ear Banger Maghakian?" Why did you diminish his extremely important historical role as being one of the most decorated Marines in WWII history and not merely a Carlson Raider as cited in the sources? Why did you omit the fact that he was the first Marine in China, before WWII, to suffer a wound and his blood spilled by a Japanese saber? To diminish his memory may be "doubleplusgood" speak for the moment, however it may be viewed as dishonorable by Americans. We don't care if Ken Burns burned himself. That is his problem to correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monte Melkonian ( talk • contribs) 18:04, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
I don't want to be misunderstood, but, why do we have Lou Diamond on this list? I mean, I love and have the highest honor for the guy, and indeed he fought courageously and was recognized for his bravery. But, I didn't see anything motor historically notable than Harry '"The Killer" Kizirian." Am I missing something? 98.148.1.173 ( talk) 23:51, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Why was Victor "Transport" Maghakian's name removed from this list? Why haven't you responded to my inquiries regarding Harry "The Killer" Kizirian? Why was Kizirian removed from this list? Monte Melkonian ( talk) 11:17, 24 March 2011 (UTC) I am sorry you feel exasperated. Just imagine how Victor and Harry felt on those beaches. Please define in clear terms the criteria to be on this list. Please get started on your own with regards to Kizirian and Maghakian. Don't you think as an American, you owe them that much? If you need help with their records, please don't hesitate to contact their respective congressmen. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 11:26, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Harry "The Angel of Death" Kizirian (aka the K-Bar) and Victor "Transport" Maghikian are going to be doing God's bidding soon. You ALL KNOW WHERE VICTOR is going to be transporting you all soon. Why do insist on having this curse on your organization? Why do insist on dishonoring the Marine Corps by ignoring the two most decorated Marines in WWII History? Semper Fi Mac...beth. Answer my questions Hell Hounds. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 21:16, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Why was Arman T. Manookian removed from this list. Arman, according to the father of Marine Corps History, stated that Arman's name and fame are intertwined with Marine Corps History. [1]. He even has his own separate site on Wikpedia. Is it because of his last name? Or is it because of his Christian faith? Semper Fi Mac..beth. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 21:05, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Why was Harry "The Angel of Death" Kizirian's (aka K-BARR) name removed from this list. [2] I also provided the book source. Is there a requirement for all of Wikpedia posts by Wikpedia that they have their own Wikpedia page? Or, is this your own conjured up requirements? Semper Fi Mac..beth. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 21:14, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Semper Fi Mac..beth! Monte Melkonian ( talk) 18:24, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
References
Miller, Ellis B. COL, USMC 220.238.42.127 ( talk) 10:04, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
This list is somewhat biased since Asian Americans, Gay / Lesbian / Transgender Americans, Indian Americans, Muslim Americans and Native Americans are curiously absent from this list. My son wrote a 20 page report about the first Transgender Marine yet I fail to see him mentioned here. If a nine year old can find the references, I am certain so could the rest of us, and I don't mean to be judgmental or discriminatory here, but we must as a global society be more inclusive of diversity. Thank you , Meishern ( talk) 07:47, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
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Removing the names of Marines who have made history in the Corps is considered vandalism and may deemed as rascist since the names removed are Hispanics. Joseph V. Medina, made USMC history when he became the first Marine in history to take command of a Naval flotilla, Angela Salinas made USMC history when she became the first Hispanic female to become a United States Marine Corps general officer and the first woman to command the Recruit Depot. France Silva was the first Hispanic-American Marine Medal of Honor and Pedro del Valle not only became the first Hispanic to reach the rank of Lieutenant General, del Valle led Company A of the 1st Battalion 5th Marines to capture Shuri Castle, a medieval fortress of the ancient Ryukyuan kings. Seizure of Shuri Castle represented a moral blow for the Japanese and was an undeniable milestone in the Okinawa campaign during World War II. If there is any doubt as to the historical contributions of these people then consult: United States Marine Corps Historical Division. Further deletion of content may led to edit blocking. Tony the Marine 05:46, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Is this the best name for this article? I'm not contesting the list itself, but I wonder if "historically important" is the best possible descriptor (and, as a side note, if it is the best title, shouldn't it be lower-case to conform to naming conventions?). Carom ( talk) 05:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
This articles was tagged as possible original research, needing references. All on this list have the summarized details in their referenced Wikipedia articles. I've added a few citations, but the nature of the list — with each person having a Wikipedia article — makes it implicitly referenced. — ERcheck ( talk) 00:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
It could be argued that all of the Medal of Honor recipients, sergeants major of the Marine Corps and the Commandants should be on this list. Before I add them however I would like to request input on this statement. -- Kumioko ( talk) 20:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Apparently, if we leave blank lines between items in a list, then the wiki software declares it to be a bunch of unrelated, single-item lists. This means that anyone who uses a screen reader hears "A list of one item" before each and every item on the page. Consequently, the folks at WP:ACCESS have requested that we please remove the inappropriate blank lines. I've done this for this page, and ask for your help in keeping it that way. Thanks, WhatamIdoing ( talk) 17:31, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Recommend removing John Ripley. Although certainly a notable Marine & great example, I don't believe being in the a Hall of Fame makes you "historically notable". Thanks! FieldMarine ( talk) 00:29, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Putting your formula to test, explain how Ripley fits the criteria so as not to waste anyone's time with other suggested names. Otherwise, this whole project loses it's credibility and violates the Wikpedia requirements of nuetrality which I believe your organization agreed to before hand. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 11:53, 24 March 2011 (UTC) Let us be fair. Ripley doesn't belong on this list. Why haven't you removed him yet? Monte Melkonian ( talk) 21:24, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Why did you omit Victor Maghakian's endearing nicknames given to him by his regiment and commanding officer? If "Pappy" can have nicknames, why can't "Ear Banger Maghakian?" Why did you diminish his extremely important historical role as being one of the most decorated Marines in WWII history and not merely a Carlson Raider as cited in the sources? Why did you omit the fact that he was the first Marine in China, before WWII, to suffer a wound and his blood spilled by a Japanese saber? To diminish his memory may be "doubleplusgood" speak for the moment, however it may be viewed as dishonorable by Americans. We don't care if Ken Burns burned himself. That is his problem to correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monte Melkonian ( talk • contribs) 18:04, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
I don't want to be misunderstood, but, why do we have Lou Diamond on this list? I mean, I love and have the highest honor for the guy, and indeed he fought courageously and was recognized for his bravery. But, I didn't see anything motor historically notable than Harry '"The Killer" Kizirian." Am I missing something? 98.148.1.173 ( talk) 23:51, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Why was Victor "Transport" Maghakian's name removed from this list? Why haven't you responded to my inquiries regarding Harry "The Killer" Kizirian? Why was Kizirian removed from this list? Monte Melkonian ( talk) 11:17, 24 March 2011 (UTC) I am sorry you feel exasperated. Just imagine how Victor and Harry felt on those beaches. Please define in clear terms the criteria to be on this list. Please get started on your own with regards to Kizirian and Maghakian. Don't you think as an American, you owe them that much? If you need help with their records, please don't hesitate to contact their respective congressmen. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 11:26, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Harry "The Angel of Death" Kizirian (aka the K-Bar) and Victor "Transport" Maghikian are going to be doing God's bidding soon. You ALL KNOW WHERE VICTOR is going to be transporting you all soon. Why do insist on having this curse on your organization? Why do insist on dishonoring the Marine Corps by ignoring the two most decorated Marines in WWII History? Semper Fi Mac...beth. Answer my questions Hell Hounds. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 21:16, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Why was Arman T. Manookian removed from this list. Arman, according to the father of Marine Corps History, stated that Arman's name and fame are intertwined with Marine Corps History. [1]. He even has his own separate site on Wikpedia. Is it because of his last name? Or is it because of his Christian faith? Semper Fi Mac..beth. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 21:05, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Why was Harry "The Angel of Death" Kizirian's (aka K-BARR) name removed from this list. [2] I also provided the book source. Is there a requirement for all of Wikpedia posts by Wikpedia that they have their own Wikpedia page? Or, is this your own conjured up requirements? Semper Fi Mac..beth. Monte Melkonian ( talk) 21:14, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Semper Fi Mac..beth! Monte Melkonian ( talk) 18:24, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
References
Miller, Ellis B. COL, USMC 220.238.42.127 ( talk) 10:04, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
This list is somewhat biased since Asian Americans, Gay / Lesbian / Transgender Americans, Indian Americans, Muslim Americans and Native Americans are curiously absent from this list. My son wrote a 20 page report about the first Transgender Marine yet I fail to see him mentioned here. If a nine year old can find the references, I am certain so could the rest of us, and I don't mean to be judgmental or discriminatory here, but we must as a global society be more inclusive of diversity. Thank you , Meishern ( talk) 07:47, 15 November 2012 (UTC)