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Looks like the table is outdated with the current platyrrhine family structure. I plan to update it to fit with the current understanding of the families, even if that is a change from how Fossilworks lists things. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:27, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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We should update so that the table reflects what is in the articles, but we should also update the articles that are out of date. Rosenberger 2002 is also outdated, but it is more recent than some of the current table data. Where nothing better is known, we should at least update to Rosenberger. I'll let this all sit here a bit, and may ping on some of the editors of these articles. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:05, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Actually, it looks like Silvestro et al., 2017 Table S4 and Figure S7 have the most up to date listing, although we'd still need to massage their three family system ( Cebidae, Atelidae, Pitheciidae) into our five family system (add Aotidae and Callitrichidae) - but that's trivial. We can chuck out Rosenberger.
Data from S4 (with Silvestro -> Wikipedia familes/subfamilies/etc):
Data from S7 (with Wikipedia taxonomy only):
However, S7 shows some potential changes to our understandings of the relationships of the NWM familes, with the following family relationships: (Pitheciidae, (Atelidae, (Cebidae, (Callitrichidae, Aotidae))))
Of the "incertae sedis"" taxa, we can see this:
Whew! That was a lot to summarize. Yay me! :D - UtherSRG (talk) 16:36, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Here are my proposed changes, both to this article and to the individual articles. I propose this with caution as it is based only on my read of Silvestro et al., 2017 [1] above. I welcome input, critiques, and support, and will put notes on the talk pages of all the articles I propose touching.
I haven't decided on the Saimiri sp changes, nor the Xenothrix clade changes. I'll wait on suggestions for those. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:36, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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Ok, I think I've updated everything. I left the Saimiri species in that genus. In the listing, I put the Xenotrichini genera at Pitheciinae, but put the tribe in that subfamily for the taxoboxes. I'm sure there is some cleanup to be done, but maybe I got it all? - UtherSRG (talk) 14:23, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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Looks like the table is outdated with the current platyrrhine family structure. I plan to update it to fit with the current understanding of the families, even if that is a change from how Fossilworks lists things. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:27, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
References
We should update so that the table reflects what is in the articles, but we should also update the articles that are out of date. Rosenberger 2002 is also outdated, but it is more recent than some of the current table data. Where nothing better is known, we should at least update to Rosenberger. I'll let this all sit here a bit, and may ping on some of the editors of these articles. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:05, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Actually, it looks like Silvestro et al., 2017 Table S4 and Figure S7 have the most up to date listing, although we'd still need to massage their three family system ( Cebidae, Atelidae, Pitheciidae) into our five family system (add Aotidae and Callitrichidae) - but that's trivial. We can chuck out Rosenberger.
Data from S4 (with Silvestro -> Wikipedia familes/subfamilies/etc):
Data from S7 (with Wikipedia taxonomy only):
However, S7 shows some potential changes to our understandings of the relationships of the NWM familes, with the following family relationships: (Pitheciidae, (Atelidae, (Cebidae, (Callitrichidae, Aotidae))))
Of the "incertae sedis"" taxa, we can see this:
Whew! That was a lot to summarize. Yay me! :D - UtherSRG (talk) 16:36, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Here are my proposed changes, both to this article and to the individual articles. I propose this with caution as it is based only on my read of Silvestro et al., 2017 [1] above. I welcome input, critiques, and support, and will put notes on the talk pages of all the articles I propose touching.
I haven't decided on the Saimiri sp changes, nor the Xenothrix clade changes. I'll wait on suggestions for those. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:36, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
References
Ok, I think I've updated everything. I left the Saimiri species in that genus. In the listing, I put the Xenotrichini genera at Pitheciinae, but put the tribe in that subfamily for the taxoboxes. I'm sure there is some cleanup to be done, but maybe I got it all? - UtherSRG (talk) 14:23, 15 September 2022 (UTC)