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There are some grey areas in this list. I haven't included the following relocated stations:
...or a number of other minor resitings, but I have included "Tower of London" and "Mark Lane", which were arguably just previous incarnations of Tower Hill tube station.
Oh well, it'll do for a start. -- rbrwr
Mark Lane was a distinct station - the building is now a restaurant, opposite All Hallows by the Tower church (above an archway can be seen "Mark Lane Buildings") Jackiespeel 22:47, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
It's good! :)
And what about Kings Cross? Same grey area I guess?? Nevilley 07:12 Apr 17, 2003 (UTC)
Discussion copied from the user page of Francs2000:
So you aren't planning on moving Watford tube station, then? Morwen 22:54, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree with Morwen on the age of the term 'tube': The Central London Railway ( Central Line) was known almost from the outset as the 'Tuppeny Tube' and it opened in June 1900 making the term Victorian (just) or Edwardian. The Charing Cross, Euston & Hampstead Railway opened in 1907 and was soon known as the 'Hampstead Tube'. However, that said, the Metropolitan Line was a separate company from the rest of the Underground Lines until it was integrated with the other lines under the London Transport Property Board in the 1933 nationalisation. Before then, the Metropolitan managed its own branding and it is in probably unlikely that it would have used the term 'tube' in association with its services. Whilst, therefore, it may be necessary, for the sake of categorisation to include the Buckinghamshire stations as 'tube' stations, any articles written about them should place them in context with that term. DavidCane
Have they announced it will never open? Because, if not, I don't understand what it's doing here. The Tube site gives no such impression. Help! Nevilley 07:56, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I'm very sorry about the short (~no) notice. I only just saw this myself.
At 1300 GMT tomorrow (Monday 8th March) Gresham College is doing a talk on this very subject.
If you are in central London and can make it I suggest you consider it. I have only been to one GC talk before and it was excellent. Free, by the way.
If you are NOT in central London then please note that there is a live webcast and then it gets archived on their site: I don't know what the delay is for this but there is an archive with plenty of old stuff in. Oh and using AOL Instant Messenger you can send in questions apparently.
All details are at:
I do hope that someone else might find this interesting/helpful. If you are going to be there and want to say hello feel free to mail me from my user page - I might see it in time. Nevilley 22:23, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)
While I accept that Vauxhall Cross is a fictional closed station, I suspect that Walford is a fictional open station (I tend to be editing Wikipedia at 7.30, not watching EastEnders, so I wouldn't know for sure). Does it belong on a list of "fictitious closed stations"? -- rbrwr ± 22:34, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Can somebody explain what this section is all about?. As I learnt to my cost, the Wikipedia convention is that 'tube' == 'london underground'. Now I don't particularly agree with that convention, but if we have it we must stick to it. And if we stick to it, then anything listed in this section either doesn't belong in the section (because it is a tube/lu station) or doesn't belong in the article (because it isn't a tube/lu station). -- Chris j wood 22:21, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The opening line of this article is "For one reason or another, many London Underground tube stations have ended up permanently closed." (my bold) so I'd rather remove T4 from the page entirely. Otherwise you might as well edit the list every Saturday night to remove those stations that aren't open on a Sunday, etc. (yes, silly, but you get my point ...) -- Vamp: Willow 23:47, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I would say that this was a permanently closed station given that its original location was on the embankment close to the bridge over Twyford Abbey Road [ [1]] about 600 yards to the north west of the current Charles Holden designed 1930s station. DavidCane
I don't see the point of listing temporarily closed stations - it's hardly encyclopedic, and this is neither Wikitravel nor the TfL website. -- ChrisO 22:12, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Someone added the following to the list of "Stations that never opened", but I can't find any substantiation of it:
What's the source for this claim? -- ChrisO 20:21, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
I suspect that this is a confusion of information - the decommissioned railway line from Alexandria Palace High Level Station to Finsbury Park Station had a station at Crouch End (not to be confused with that at Crouch Hill), closed in 1954.
I posted the Muswell Hill paragraph in the first place. I found it in the Horrible Histories book Loathsome London, by Terry Deary, page 122. To clarify: I took my lines from the section in Loathsome London about the Tube; specifically about ghosts in the tunnels and such, and right at the end there is a 'Did You Know...?' Now, I've relied on Deary's series for a long time; while he writes a lot of gross stuff, I for one would be very confused if an educational history book series intended for youngsters with all it's weird facts did not tell the truth to them. Is there -really- nothing on the internet about it at all? Odd. Lady BlahDeBlah 20:57, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
For information on the station at Muswell Hill see Muswell Hill railway station and Edgware, Highgate and London Railway. There is also an article on the Alexandra Palace station referred to above at Alexandra Palace railway station (Muswell Hill branch). DavidCane 23:10, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
OK, I now have Stephen Smith's Underground London in front of me, and he gives this story (the story in general, not Lady B's source) specifically as an example of a "tall tale" told about plague pits (pp. 177–8). -- rbrwr ± 13:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Under "Open stations with closed sections" we have:
...which I find a bit misleading. As far as I can tell, the Charing Cross branch platforms are exactly where they always were, as is the southbound Bank branch. The old northbound Bank branch track was taken up and covered over in the platform tunnel, and the northbound running tunnel was closed for a short distance to the west of the station (the part to the east remains in use as the "Euston Loop"). No significant part of the station closed, though one edge of the old island platform ceased to be an edge. Am I wrong? -- rbrwr ± 21:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
It would be nice to add to the list (and perhaps turn it into a table) the fates of the buildings, platforms and track, i.e. what has been demolished/removed and what still remains. Nicholas 19:20, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Should this be listed under permenantly closed railway stations? It does actually receive a service albeit a few times a year.
Also with the (although quite a way off) Varsity Line proposal, it may be reopened.
Simply south 23:16, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I was very surprised to see the dates of the comments in Walford? above. Still not resolved?
Anyway, since that discussion started (and stopped!), a page called Fictional underground stations has been created. I have just moved across the details of the fictional stations that are not closed, but it would seem rather more appropriate for the whole lot to go there, as the situation is a bit messy at present.
Is there really a need for a detailed description of the stations here? Would it be better to move the detail to Fictional underground stations, and just have a name-only list here, with a cross-ref to the main article?
EdJogg 21:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Incidentally, I have created a new cat called Category:Fictional London Underground stations, since the content of Category:Fictional rapid transit stations was entirely LU, and used to force the addition of all the stations, and the cat, to Category:London Underground. Hopefully this will be clearer.
EdJogg 01:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know what happens to all the space down there? I know the entrances get blocked up but what happens to all the space. Is it left as it was before it was closed? The underground space isnt put to any use then? Thanks for answering! -- 81.179.72.241 18:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
I think there might be a duplicate artical issue here; one redirects to the other, but the two arent the same. Will the offending artical be updated? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_closed_London_Underground_stations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_London_Underground_stations 91.106.55.141 ( talk) 06:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Having read the excellent book by Antony Badsey-Ellis about Londons Lost Tube Schemes, there are a few tube schemes that over the years have been approved for construction, but due to lack of finance never got off the ground. Noteable examples include the North West London Railway (Victoria-Cricklewood), The North East Suburban Railway (Monument-Waltham Abbey), and the City and Brixton Railway (Monument-Brixton).
I have produced line diagrams for each of these. Would it be worth starting articals on them, and even uploading the diagram? If so let me know so I can create an account. Also, where would such a topic go, since its not quite 'closed underground stations', yet I can't see a topic which covers it.
Thanks!
albanianposse at hotmail dot co dot uk
Ben 91.106.13.79 ( talk) 05:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I think there should be a seperate page Unconstructed London Underground Lines or something. I think this article should be limited to those stations that were actually built, or at least in an advanced stage of planning, but there should be a page on projects which received approval, but were never built. Lord Cornwallis ( talk) 23:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
This article is a List and not a a Start Class as it lists all the different stations. Remember that not all lists have "List of..." in their name. Although it gives extra information, most is provided in tables. Simply south ( talk) 11:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Seen on our news here in Oz ( http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/18/2394715.htm) a story about part of the UndergrounD used during the war and latterly by BT but never used by trains - anybody know where it is? My guesses - the unused tunnel between Holborn and Aldwych, or part of the proposed express tube under the District between South Kensington and the City. Thanks Shrdlu junction ( talk) 05:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
(Moved here from top of page as new section per talk page guidelines) - BulldozerD11 ( talk) 17:02, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Any info on how often they check them or if they have CCTV to make sure there aren't tramps etc. in there? User:LaFoiblesse 2008-12-08 22:17 (GMT)
In the "current condition" column, many stations are listed as "demolished". That is fine for surface stations, where it unambiguously means that neither the station building nor the platforms survive. But an underground station involves an underground space where the platforms were, and the word "demolished" does not make sense. All stations below ground where the word "demolished" is used (about six of them, I think) need their descriptions reviewed.
Also in this column, many other stations are listed as "operated by National Rail". This is nonsense; National Rail is not a train or station operator. These descriptions should either say something like "part of National Rail network", or (perhaps better) name the applicable operating company, or both.
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There are some grey areas in this list. I haven't included the following relocated stations:
...or a number of other minor resitings, but I have included "Tower of London" and "Mark Lane", which were arguably just previous incarnations of Tower Hill tube station.
Oh well, it'll do for a start. -- rbrwr
Mark Lane was a distinct station - the building is now a restaurant, opposite All Hallows by the Tower church (above an archway can be seen "Mark Lane Buildings") Jackiespeel 22:47, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
It's good! :)
And what about Kings Cross? Same grey area I guess?? Nevilley 07:12 Apr 17, 2003 (UTC)
Discussion copied from the user page of Francs2000:
So you aren't planning on moving Watford tube station, then? Morwen 22:54, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree with Morwen on the age of the term 'tube': The Central London Railway ( Central Line) was known almost from the outset as the 'Tuppeny Tube' and it opened in June 1900 making the term Victorian (just) or Edwardian. The Charing Cross, Euston & Hampstead Railway opened in 1907 and was soon known as the 'Hampstead Tube'. However, that said, the Metropolitan Line was a separate company from the rest of the Underground Lines until it was integrated with the other lines under the London Transport Property Board in the 1933 nationalisation. Before then, the Metropolitan managed its own branding and it is in probably unlikely that it would have used the term 'tube' in association with its services. Whilst, therefore, it may be necessary, for the sake of categorisation to include the Buckinghamshire stations as 'tube' stations, any articles written about them should place them in context with that term. DavidCane
Have they announced it will never open? Because, if not, I don't understand what it's doing here. The Tube site gives no such impression. Help! Nevilley 07:56, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I'm very sorry about the short (~no) notice. I only just saw this myself.
At 1300 GMT tomorrow (Monday 8th March) Gresham College is doing a talk on this very subject.
If you are in central London and can make it I suggest you consider it. I have only been to one GC talk before and it was excellent. Free, by the way.
If you are NOT in central London then please note that there is a live webcast and then it gets archived on their site: I don't know what the delay is for this but there is an archive with plenty of old stuff in. Oh and using AOL Instant Messenger you can send in questions apparently.
All details are at:
I do hope that someone else might find this interesting/helpful. If you are going to be there and want to say hello feel free to mail me from my user page - I might see it in time. Nevilley 22:23, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)
While I accept that Vauxhall Cross is a fictional closed station, I suspect that Walford is a fictional open station (I tend to be editing Wikipedia at 7.30, not watching EastEnders, so I wouldn't know for sure). Does it belong on a list of "fictitious closed stations"? -- rbrwr ± 22:34, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Can somebody explain what this section is all about?. As I learnt to my cost, the Wikipedia convention is that 'tube' == 'london underground'. Now I don't particularly agree with that convention, but if we have it we must stick to it. And if we stick to it, then anything listed in this section either doesn't belong in the section (because it is a tube/lu station) or doesn't belong in the article (because it isn't a tube/lu station). -- Chris j wood 22:21, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The opening line of this article is "For one reason or another, many London Underground tube stations have ended up permanently closed." (my bold) so I'd rather remove T4 from the page entirely. Otherwise you might as well edit the list every Saturday night to remove those stations that aren't open on a Sunday, etc. (yes, silly, but you get my point ...) -- Vamp: Willow 23:47, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I would say that this was a permanently closed station given that its original location was on the embankment close to the bridge over Twyford Abbey Road [ [1]] about 600 yards to the north west of the current Charles Holden designed 1930s station. DavidCane
I don't see the point of listing temporarily closed stations - it's hardly encyclopedic, and this is neither Wikitravel nor the TfL website. -- ChrisO 22:12, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Someone added the following to the list of "Stations that never opened", but I can't find any substantiation of it:
What's the source for this claim? -- ChrisO 20:21, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
I suspect that this is a confusion of information - the decommissioned railway line from Alexandria Palace High Level Station to Finsbury Park Station had a station at Crouch End (not to be confused with that at Crouch Hill), closed in 1954.
I posted the Muswell Hill paragraph in the first place. I found it in the Horrible Histories book Loathsome London, by Terry Deary, page 122. To clarify: I took my lines from the section in Loathsome London about the Tube; specifically about ghosts in the tunnels and such, and right at the end there is a 'Did You Know...?' Now, I've relied on Deary's series for a long time; while he writes a lot of gross stuff, I for one would be very confused if an educational history book series intended for youngsters with all it's weird facts did not tell the truth to them. Is there -really- nothing on the internet about it at all? Odd. Lady BlahDeBlah 20:57, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
For information on the station at Muswell Hill see Muswell Hill railway station and Edgware, Highgate and London Railway. There is also an article on the Alexandra Palace station referred to above at Alexandra Palace railway station (Muswell Hill branch). DavidCane 23:10, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
OK, I now have Stephen Smith's Underground London in front of me, and he gives this story (the story in general, not Lady B's source) specifically as an example of a "tall tale" told about plague pits (pp. 177–8). -- rbrwr ± 13:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Under "Open stations with closed sections" we have:
...which I find a bit misleading. As far as I can tell, the Charing Cross branch platforms are exactly where they always were, as is the southbound Bank branch. The old northbound Bank branch track was taken up and covered over in the platform tunnel, and the northbound running tunnel was closed for a short distance to the west of the station (the part to the east remains in use as the "Euston Loop"). No significant part of the station closed, though one edge of the old island platform ceased to be an edge. Am I wrong? -- rbrwr ± 21:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
It would be nice to add to the list (and perhaps turn it into a table) the fates of the buildings, platforms and track, i.e. what has been demolished/removed and what still remains. Nicholas 19:20, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Should this be listed under permenantly closed railway stations? It does actually receive a service albeit a few times a year.
Also with the (although quite a way off) Varsity Line proposal, it may be reopened.
Simply south 23:16, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I was very surprised to see the dates of the comments in Walford? above. Still not resolved?
Anyway, since that discussion started (and stopped!), a page called Fictional underground stations has been created. I have just moved across the details of the fictional stations that are not closed, but it would seem rather more appropriate for the whole lot to go there, as the situation is a bit messy at present.
Is there really a need for a detailed description of the stations here? Would it be better to move the detail to Fictional underground stations, and just have a name-only list here, with a cross-ref to the main article?
EdJogg 21:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Incidentally, I have created a new cat called Category:Fictional London Underground stations, since the content of Category:Fictional rapid transit stations was entirely LU, and used to force the addition of all the stations, and the cat, to Category:London Underground. Hopefully this will be clearer.
EdJogg 01:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know what happens to all the space down there? I know the entrances get blocked up but what happens to all the space. Is it left as it was before it was closed? The underground space isnt put to any use then? Thanks for answering! -- 81.179.72.241 18:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
I think there might be a duplicate artical issue here; one redirects to the other, but the two arent the same. Will the offending artical be updated? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_closed_London_Underground_stations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_London_Underground_stations 91.106.55.141 ( talk) 06:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Having read the excellent book by Antony Badsey-Ellis about Londons Lost Tube Schemes, there are a few tube schemes that over the years have been approved for construction, but due to lack of finance never got off the ground. Noteable examples include the North West London Railway (Victoria-Cricklewood), The North East Suburban Railway (Monument-Waltham Abbey), and the City and Brixton Railway (Monument-Brixton).
I have produced line diagrams for each of these. Would it be worth starting articals on them, and even uploading the diagram? If so let me know so I can create an account. Also, where would such a topic go, since its not quite 'closed underground stations', yet I can't see a topic which covers it.
Thanks!
albanianposse at hotmail dot co dot uk
Ben 91.106.13.79 ( talk) 05:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I think there should be a seperate page Unconstructed London Underground Lines or something. I think this article should be limited to those stations that were actually built, or at least in an advanced stage of planning, but there should be a page on projects which received approval, but were never built. Lord Cornwallis ( talk) 23:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
This article is a List and not a a Start Class as it lists all the different stations. Remember that not all lists have "List of..." in their name. Although it gives extra information, most is provided in tables. Simply south ( talk) 11:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Seen on our news here in Oz ( http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/18/2394715.htm) a story about part of the UndergrounD used during the war and latterly by BT but never used by trains - anybody know where it is? My guesses - the unused tunnel between Holborn and Aldwych, or part of the proposed express tube under the District between South Kensington and the City. Thanks Shrdlu junction ( talk) 05:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
(Moved here from top of page as new section per talk page guidelines) - BulldozerD11 ( talk) 17:02, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Any info on how often they check them or if they have CCTV to make sure there aren't tramps etc. in there? User:LaFoiblesse 2008-12-08 22:17 (GMT)
In the "current condition" column, many stations are listed as "demolished". That is fine for surface stations, where it unambiguously means that neither the station building nor the platforms survive. But an underground station involves an underground space where the platforms were, and the word "demolished" does not make sense. All stations below ground where the word "demolished" is used (about six of them, I think) need their descriptions reviewed.
Also in this column, many other stations are listed as "operated by National Rail". This is nonsense; National Rail is not a train or station operator. These descriptions should either say something like "part of National Rail network", or (perhaps better) name the applicable operating company, or both.
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