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The NRHP ones include:
Currently the page shows some bluelink ones and some redlink ones without supporting bluelinks (which leaves them vulnerable to deletion by other editors). If NRHP ones are deleted, the complete entries as above should be added back. -- doncram ( talk) 00:14, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
There's a flatiron building at 201 East Washington St, Syracuse, NY, that you can see here https://www.loc.gov/resource/highsm.52246/ I can send photos if necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanahan3000 ( talk • contribs) 23:39, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
http://www.cardcow.com/9891/wedgewood-hotel-woodlawn-ave-at-sixty-fourth-st-chicago-illinois/ A 10 story flatiron building built in 1924 in Chicago and demolished in 1989 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.228.190.243 ( talk) 18:56, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
I changed it to a list article per WP:SIA. This should help preserve content as desired above. Widefox; talk 16:55, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
There's a Flatiron Building in downtown Petoskey. 68.51.193.141 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:53, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
User:Deor, you removed the identification of some questions from the article. I would rather you had converted them somehow to tags, perhaps using {{ dubious}} or similar would have been technically more correct, with reference to further discussion here on the talk page. Your edits related to those seem less than constructive, IMHO.
About the identifications you removed, what do you think about the characterization of the Detroit one as a flatiron building? Or is it just a quadrilateral? I seriously invite you please to do any actual research or otherwise add value towards addressing that.
And what do you think about the characterization of the Portland Oregon one being billed as smallest building on west coast? And about it being Chicago school (architecture) in style, or not?
--Doncram ( talk, contribs) 01:54, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. – robertsky ( talk) 14:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
List of Flatiron buildings → List of flatiron buildings – The Flatiron Building is a specific building in New York. This is a list of buildings in that style but not necessarily with that name. In the article, the word "flatiron" is lowercase when referring to the general style of building on first reference. Mike Selinker ( talk) 13:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent reliable sources– for the exact term and meaning in question. The arguments above would turn this on its ear and require defaulting to capitalization absent a showing of a source preference for lower-case, and that's completely backwards what what we actually do. Remember that English is chock-full of common nouns, usually lower-cased, that are eponymously derived from proper names (just a handful of examples: sandwich, boycott, lynching, cardigan, argyle socks, afghan (garmet), china (porcelain), nicotine, french fries, diesel fuel/engine, saxophone and sousaphone, chauvinist, gerrymander, silhouette, luddite, algorithm, dunce, hooligan, guillotine, sadism, masochism, goth[ic] (subculture), etc.; plus numerous genericized former trademarks including zipper, jacuzzi, aspirin, escalator, hovercraft, teleprompter, trampoline, videotape, lanolin, dumpster, dry ice, yo-yo, laund[e]rette, laundromat, mimeograph, linoleum, kerosene, etc.). There is no 1:1 relationship (even one-way) in English between "derived from a proper name" and "conventionally capitalized". — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 09:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the numbers in the first column of the list tables are meant to refer to? If they're just numbering the rows in the table then we can probably remove them, since (being sortable) the rows can be viewed in various different orders. The color key can presumably be moved to the name column. ╠╣uw [ talk 17:08, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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![]() | On 19 March 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from List of Flatiron buildings to List of flatiron buildings. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The NRHP ones include:
Currently the page shows some bluelink ones and some redlink ones without supporting bluelinks (which leaves them vulnerable to deletion by other editors). If NRHP ones are deleted, the complete entries as above should be added back. -- doncram ( talk) 00:14, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
There's a flatiron building at 201 East Washington St, Syracuse, NY, that you can see here https://www.loc.gov/resource/highsm.52246/ I can send photos if necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanahan3000 ( talk • contribs) 23:39, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
http://www.cardcow.com/9891/wedgewood-hotel-woodlawn-ave-at-sixty-fourth-st-chicago-illinois/ A 10 story flatiron building built in 1924 in Chicago and demolished in 1989 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.228.190.243 ( talk) 18:56, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
I changed it to a list article per WP:SIA. This should help preserve content as desired above. Widefox; talk 16:55, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
There's a Flatiron Building in downtown Petoskey. 68.51.193.141 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:53, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
User:Deor, you removed the identification of some questions from the article. I would rather you had converted them somehow to tags, perhaps using {{ dubious}} or similar would have been technically more correct, with reference to further discussion here on the talk page. Your edits related to those seem less than constructive, IMHO.
About the identifications you removed, what do you think about the characterization of the Detroit one as a flatiron building? Or is it just a quadrilateral? I seriously invite you please to do any actual research or otherwise add value towards addressing that.
And what do you think about the characterization of the Portland Oregon one being billed as smallest building on west coast? And about it being Chicago school (architecture) in style, or not?
--Doncram ( talk, contribs) 01:54, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. – robertsky ( talk) 14:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
List of Flatiron buildings → List of flatiron buildings – The Flatiron Building is a specific building in New York. This is a list of buildings in that style but not necessarily with that name. In the article, the word "flatiron" is lowercase when referring to the general style of building on first reference. Mike Selinker ( talk) 13:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent reliable sources– for the exact term and meaning in question. The arguments above would turn this on its ear and require defaulting to capitalization absent a showing of a source preference for lower-case, and that's completely backwards what what we actually do. Remember that English is chock-full of common nouns, usually lower-cased, that are eponymously derived from proper names (just a handful of examples: sandwich, boycott, lynching, cardigan, argyle socks, afghan (garmet), china (porcelain), nicotine, french fries, diesel fuel/engine, saxophone and sousaphone, chauvinist, gerrymander, silhouette, luddite, algorithm, dunce, hooligan, guillotine, sadism, masochism, goth[ic] (subculture), etc.; plus numerous genericized former trademarks including zipper, jacuzzi, aspirin, escalator, hovercraft, teleprompter, trampoline, videotape, lanolin, dumpster, dry ice, yo-yo, laund[e]rette, laundromat, mimeograph, linoleum, kerosene, etc.). There is no 1:1 relationship (even one-way) in English between "derived from a proper name" and "conventionally capitalized". — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 09:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the numbers in the first column of the list tables are meant to refer to? If they're just numbering the rows in the table then we can probably remove them, since (being sortable) the rows can be viewed in various different orders. The color key can presumably be moved to the name column. ╠╣uw [ talk 17:08, 19 March 2024 (UTC)