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I've consulted with editors at wp:AWNB and have jotted notes on accessing historic register databases at wp:HSITESHELP. It seems to me that this list-article should include any Australian fire stations that have Wikipedia articles, plus include redlinks for any that are deemed "state-level" significance by any state or territory. So I'm removing some redlinks of lesser historic status to here.
Removed from draft article, one item from the Register of the National Estate, found in search of Australia Heritage Register, with selection for this type:
From searchable register here, can click on "State Heritage Register" to limit results. There are no historic fire stations of state-level significance apparently. Local significance ones include:
-- Doncram ( talk) 16:53, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
No fire stations found using NT historic register search interface. In fact no hits at all on "fire", although there are police stations and other items found by searching on "station". -- Doncram ( talk) 18:43, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Candidates found by searching here. Keeping in the list-article these ones which have state-level significance:
-- Doncram ( talk) 17:00, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
For Victoria, I think staying in are:
and also staying in will be a few historic ones of all other levels of significance
but not being included are:
References
-- Doncram ( talk) 17:56, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
No coverage of Tasmania fire stations being kept in now. Tasmania ones found in searching its registrations document are:
but there is no indication of state-level signficance, and in Google searching on Hobart and Rokeby ones I didn't immediately find useful sources.
References
-- Doncram ( talk) 18:02, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
For WA, being kept are four already having articles:
and all 16 Western Australia state-level significant ones (which includes 3 of those, all but Old Perth one) found in search on "fire" with state-level significance checked:
It appears the Old Perth Fire Station is different than the North Perth Fire Station based on addresses and photos. Since the Old Perth one's article asserts it was the first purpose-built fire station in WA, I wonder why it does not appear to be listed on the WA register.
References
-- Doncram ( talk) 18:09, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
The U.S. list is quite long. How do editors feel about forking to List of fire stations in the United States? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:35, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
1 Australia 24 1.1 New South Wales 1 1.2 Queensland 9 1.3 South Australia 5 1.4 Victoria 14 1.5 Western Australia 6 2 Canada 9 3 China 1 4 Denmark 4 5 Estonia 1 6 France 1 7 Hong Kong 4 8 New Zealand 1 9 Philippines 1 10 Russia 1 11 Singapore 1 12 Taiwan 1 13 United Kingdom 13 (with one of those, the Kent item, being a list itself) 15 Vatican City 1 total non-U.S. 63
14 United States 14.1 Alabama 13 (cumu. 13) 14.2 Alaska 0 14.3 Arizona 1 (cumu. 14) 14.4 Arkansas 5 14.5 California 20 14.6 Colorado 7 14.7 Connecticut 11 (57) 14.8 Delaware 5 14.9 Florida 7 14.10 Georgia 8 14.11 Hawaii 7 14.12 Idaho 1 14.13 Illinois 5 (92) 14.14 Indiana 15 14.15 Iowa 19 (126) 14.16 Kansas 4 14.17 Kentucky 4 14.18 Louisiana 19 14.19 Maine 10 (163) 14.20 Maryland 6 14.21 Massachusetts 47 (216) 14.22 Michigan 15 14.23 Minnesota 14 14.24 Mississippi 2 14.25 Missouri 4 14.26 Montana 6 (257) 14.27 Nebraska 3 14.28 Nevada 1 14.29 New Jersey 16 14.30 New Hampshire 1 14.31 New Mexico 5 14.32 New York 36 (319) 14.33 North Carolina 5 14.34 North Dakota 2 14.35 Ohio 18 14.36 Oklahoma 1 (345) 14.37 Oregon 8 14.38 Pennsylvania 11 14.39 Rhode Island 1 14.40 South Carolina 2 (367) 14.41 South Dakota 5 14.42 Tennessee 6 14.43 Texas 10 14.44 Utah 3 14.45 Vermont 2 14.46 Virginia 5 (398) 14.47 Washington 19 14.48 West Virginia 1 14.49 Wisconsin 12 14.50 Wyoming 1 14.51 Washington, D.C. 19 14.52 Puerto Rico 5 (455) total U.S. 455
total overall 518
I'm confused by the intent of this page. It's currently titled "List of fire stations" but the very first sentence of the article is "This is a list of notable current and former fire stations..." It seems that either "notable" should be dropped or the article title should be updated to "List of notable fire stations." I navigated here with the expectation of a larger list and now unsure if I should add non-notable fire stations to the list. Cheers. -- Krypter7 ( talk) 21:42, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Just recording notes. Yesterday I noticed User:Ɱ had created a number of nice articles for fire stations in Columbus, Ohio, mostly named "Engine House No. X (Columbus, Ohio)" now. Which got me stirred up to create redirects from "Engine House No. X" where possible to "Fire Station No. X" disambiguation pages, and to make the latter more clearly appear as combination dabs covering variations. I once apparently thought it good to develop "Engine House No. X" disambiguation pages and keep them separate from corresponding "Fire Station No. X" disambiguation pages, but have now merged all of those.
Note that "List of fire stations" includes in its "see also" section a series of disambiguation pages: Fire Station No. 1, Fire Station No. 2, etc., which I have meant to be comprehensive in terms of including any numbered fire stations whether called hose stations, engine houses, or other. These disambiguation pages exist up to X=25 and then there are a few more with higher numbers (and I think all are listed at end of List of fire stations). There also exist a few higher numbered "Engine House No. X" items, not listed there, which currently are {{ R with possibilities}} to "Engine House No. X (City, State)" articles, for which there is not yet a "Fire Station No. X" disambiguation page to redirect to.
I also revised Engine House (disambiguation) somewhat; I am not sure if it should include "Engine House No. X" or other "engine house" items that are fire stations or not. Maybe it should just cover engine houses; there is List of engine houses also as a section of "engine house" article. Per my own writing at Engine House (disambiguation), that "An engine house is a building that holds engines, often stationary engines providing power, and sometimes is a fire station holding fire engines." However almost all entries there (with Cleveland Mine Engine House Number 3 being one exception) are fire stations / firehouses. I believe all the entries there (and on any "Engine House No. X" dab page) that are named "Engine House No. X" are in fact fire stations / firehouses.
Comments, perhaps especially about Engine House (disambiguation), would be welcomed. Almost all of its entries now are "partial matches" which aren't usually included in a disambiguation page, except sometimes as "See also" items. --Doncram ( talk, contribs) 18:01, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
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I've consulted with editors at wp:AWNB and have jotted notes on accessing historic register databases at wp:HSITESHELP. It seems to me that this list-article should include any Australian fire stations that have Wikipedia articles, plus include redlinks for any that are deemed "state-level" significance by any state or territory. So I'm removing some redlinks of lesser historic status to here.
Removed from draft article, one item from the Register of the National Estate, found in search of Australia Heritage Register, with selection for this type:
From searchable register here, can click on "State Heritage Register" to limit results. There are no historic fire stations of state-level significance apparently. Local significance ones include:
-- Doncram ( talk) 16:53, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
No fire stations found using NT historic register search interface. In fact no hits at all on "fire", although there are police stations and other items found by searching on "station". -- Doncram ( talk) 18:43, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Candidates found by searching here. Keeping in the list-article these ones which have state-level significance:
-- Doncram ( talk) 17:00, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
For Victoria, I think staying in are:
and also staying in will be a few historic ones of all other levels of significance
but not being included are:
References
-- Doncram ( talk) 17:56, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
No coverage of Tasmania fire stations being kept in now. Tasmania ones found in searching its registrations document are:
but there is no indication of state-level signficance, and in Google searching on Hobart and Rokeby ones I didn't immediately find useful sources.
References
-- Doncram ( talk) 18:02, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
For WA, being kept are four already having articles:
and all 16 Western Australia state-level significant ones (which includes 3 of those, all but Old Perth one) found in search on "fire" with state-level significance checked:
It appears the Old Perth Fire Station is different than the North Perth Fire Station based on addresses and photos. Since the Old Perth one's article asserts it was the first purpose-built fire station in WA, I wonder why it does not appear to be listed on the WA register.
References
-- Doncram ( talk) 18:09, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
The U.S. list is quite long. How do editors feel about forking to List of fire stations in the United States? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 01:35, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
1 Australia 24 1.1 New South Wales 1 1.2 Queensland 9 1.3 South Australia 5 1.4 Victoria 14 1.5 Western Australia 6 2 Canada 9 3 China 1 4 Denmark 4 5 Estonia 1 6 France 1 7 Hong Kong 4 8 New Zealand 1 9 Philippines 1 10 Russia 1 11 Singapore 1 12 Taiwan 1 13 United Kingdom 13 (with one of those, the Kent item, being a list itself) 15 Vatican City 1 total non-U.S. 63
14 United States 14.1 Alabama 13 (cumu. 13) 14.2 Alaska 0 14.3 Arizona 1 (cumu. 14) 14.4 Arkansas 5 14.5 California 20 14.6 Colorado 7 14.7 Connecticut 11 (57) 14.8 Delaware 5 14.9 Florida 7 14.10 Georgia 8 14.11 Hawaii 7 14.12 Idaho 1 14.13 Illinois 5 (92) 14.14 Indiana 15 14.15 Iowa 19 (126) 14.16 Kansas 4 14.17 Kentucky 4 14.18 Louisiana 19 14.19 Maine 10 (163) 14.20 Maryland 6 14.21 Massachusetts 47 (216) 14.22 Michigan 15 14.23 Minnesota 14 14.24 Mississippi 2 14.25 Missouri 4 14.26 Montana 6 (257) 14.27 Nebraska 3 14.28 Nevada 1 14.29 New Jersey 16 14.30 New Hampshire 1 14.31 New Mexico 5 14.32 New York 36 (319) 14.33 North Carolina 5 14.34 North Dakota 2 14.35 Ohio 18 14.36 Oklahoma 1 (345) 14.37 Oregon 8 14.38 Pennsylvania 11 14.39 Rhode Island 1 14.40 South Carolina 2 (367) 14.41 South Dakota 5 14.42 Tennessee 6 14.43 Texas 10 14.44 Utah 3 14.45 Vermont 2 14.46 Virginia 5 (398) 14.47 Washington 19 14.48 West Virginia 1 14.49 Wisconsin 12 14.50 Wyoming 1 14.51 Washington, D.C. 19 14.52 Puerto Rico 5 (455) total U.S. 455
total overall 518
I'm confused by the intent of this page. It's currently titled "List of fire stations" but the very first sentence of the article is "This is a list of notable current and former fire stations..." It seems that either "notable" should be dropped or the article title should be updated to "List of notable fire stations." I navigated here with the expectation of a larger list and now unsure if I should add non-notable fire stations to the list. Cheers. -- Krypter7 ( talk) 21:42, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Just recording notes. Yesterday I noticed User:Ɱ had created a number of nice articles for fire stations in Columbus, Ohio, mostly named "Engine House No. X (Columbus, Ohio)" now. Which got me stirred up to create redirects from "Engine House No. X" where possible to "Fire Station No. X" disambiguation pages, and to make the latter more clearly appear as combination dabs covering variations. I once apparently thought it good to develop "Engine House No. X" disambiguation pages and keep them separate from corresponding "Fire Station No. X" disambiguation pages, but have now merged all of those.
Note that "List of fire stations" includes in its "see also" section a series of disambiguation pages: Fire Station No. 1, Fire Station No. 2, etc., which I have meant to be comprehensive in terms of including any numbered fire stations whether called hose stations, engine houses, or other. These disambiguation pages exist up to X=25 and then there are a few more with higher numbers (and I think all are listed at end of List of fire stations). There also exist a few higher numbered "Engine House No. X" items, not listed there, which currently are {{ R with possibilities}} to "Engine House No. X (City, State)" articles, for which there is not yet a "Fire Station No. X" disambiguation page to redirect to.
I also revised Engine House (disambiguation) somewhat; I am not sure if it should include "Engine House No. X" or other "engine house" items that are fire stations or not. Maybe it should just cover engine houses; there is List of engine houses also as a section of "engine house" article. Per my own writing at Engine House (disambiguation), that "An engine house is a building that holds engines, often stationary engines providing power, and sometimes is a fire station holding fire engines." However almost all entries there (with Cleveland Mine Engine House Number 3 being one exception) are fire stations / firehouses. I believe all the entries there (and on any "Engine House No. X" dab page) that are named "Engine House No. X" are in fact fire stations / firehouses.
Comments, perhaps especially about Engine House (disambiguation), would be welcomed. Almost all of its entries now are "partial matches" which aren't usually included in a disambiguation page, except sometimes as "See also" items. --Doncram ( talk, contribs) 18:01, 15 June 2023 (UTC)