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I recently added a link to Porsche, an obvious omission from this list. Many of these companies aren't exclusive manufacturers of sports cars; those of the few that are still in business, anyway. Lamborghini made tractors for a long time, for example. Many of the companies, like Ferrari, outsource their engineering and design services. I think that the "devoted exclusively to producing sports cars" criteria is self-defeating, and should be broadened to include companies who are notable for sports cars, or perhaps those that produce sports cars as a core of their business.
As it stands, many of the listed companies don't produce anything, since they're long gone. Shouldn't those be removed, too?-- Mikeblas 18:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Why have the article only list companies that produce ONLY sports cars? Why not separate it into two sections, if you feel that distinction is important? Also, what is the definition of a sports car? Do GTs count? Is an STI not a sports car? Hell, you could even make a case for the Cayenne. And how about Lamborghini? They don't make anything but sports cars now, even though they have in the past. (And Lamborghini tractors are a separate company, BTW)
This list seems pretty arbitrary, and not terribly useful with these exclusions in place.
Andy Christ (
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19:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Lotus isn't on here, WHY? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.34.50 ( talk) 23:23, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
There was no consensus to delete the list. The task to classify vehicles is now being discussed. However, before this occurs, it would be good to refrain from adding random names of automakers to this list. The most recent edits included brands such as Yamaha without a basis to include them on this list, perhaps because Yamaha also makes sporty golf carts and many other "leisure" vehicles? Once again the major mainstream automakers such as Dodge, Chevrolet, and Toyota were added. Of course they make sports cars -- but their high-performance vehicles make up a small fraction of total sales volume. As I mentioned before, there could be another list with every company that has ever made a "sports car" that is broadly defined to encompass everything on wheels. This will keep enthusiasts promoting their favorite brands much more content by listing everything! — CZmarlin ( talk) 06:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
You're still not doing anything about making this list's scope clear.
Andy Christ (
talk)
06:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Just added Melling Sportcars as it fits the criterion of pure sports car maker. Needed to make it Melling Wildcat to get a proper Wikipedia link: Won't matter until the Hellcat is in production. Oddly the proper company name is Al Melling Sportscars. JG17 ( talk) 10:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
De Tomaso is missing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.175.12.222 ( talk) 18:57, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
The following have been added at some point or other and most definitely do not fit the current criteria:
Nasty ( talk) 10:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
The Spyker D12 isn't meant as a SUV it is meant as a hommage to the Peking-to-Paris rally. Therefor it is a (rally) Sport car. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.45.189.232 ( talk) 04:48, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Aren't GTs also a type of sports car, though? I think Ferrari should stay on for that reason. Redstoneprime ( talk) 20:10, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
MB SLR McLaren is just a GT not a sports car? LG4761 ( talk) 10:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
This list is rather ridiculous as it stands! Ferrari-Scaglietti is missing, even though Dottor Enzo only ever made road-legal cars for sale to milk the the rich people and pour ALL of that money into car racing activity. The only reason the 599 or the 612 exists is to keep the Scuderia running in Formula-1.
In this regard Ferrari is the purest possible "sports car" maker, since their road-going cars exist solely to support racing and those road-legal cars are direct recipients of racing-track tech and know-how. Even the model 612 whale has a prominent F1-derived paddle-shifter.
Furthermore, it should be realized that the Ferrari company, which manufactures giant forklifts for handling cargo ship containers or another one that makes furniture door joints for IKEA, etc. are not the same as the Maranello car shop. There are a lot of Ferrari companies in Italy, as it is a very common family name! 91.82.32.253 ( talk) 00:15, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Im being either bold or rude, but i want to know exactly why this article includes only dedicated sports car makers? the list gets up to 400 hits per day, quadrupling during Indy season, and i would guess that most of the readers want a list of all sports car makers. I started a small list of notable models/makers that also make other types of cars. I would suggest that if there is a serious desire to keep this list "clean", that the subject be opened up to some form of debate or discussion, maybe at the Wikiproject Automobiles. However, I should note that since this is not my main area of editing, if there is serious "ownership" of the article by a "cabal", i will politely back out, as i like to avoid warfare. Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 06:50, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Moved here from my talkpage. -- DeFacto ( talk). 09:03, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
I see you [DeFacto] made some changes on my edit of the "List of exclusively sports cars" page, and you removed some which, as you stated, are "converters". This has me a but confused, as you have allowed tuning brands such as RUF and Gemballa to also stay on the page. Redstoneprime ( talk) 08:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
I've removed some more. I have kept brands like Hennessey and Ruf, however, as they also make their own cars. If you don't think they belong, however, feel free to remove them. Redstoneprime ( talk) 07:46, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
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I recently added a link to Porsche, an obvious omission from this list. Many of these companies aren't exclusive manufacturers of sports cars; those of the few that are still in business, anyway. Lamborghini made tractors for a long time, for example. Many of the companies, like Ferrari, outsource their engineering and design services. I think that the "devoted exclusively to producing sports cars" criteria is self-defeating, and should be broadened to include companies who are notable for sports cars, or perhaps those that produce sports cars as a core of their business.
As it stands, many of the listed companies don't produce anything, since they're long gone. Shouldn't those be removed, too?-- Mikeblas 18:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Why have the article only list companies that produce ONLY sports cars? Why not separate it into two sections, if you feel that distinction is important? Also, what is the definition of a sports car? Do GTs count? Is an STI not a sports car? Hell, you could even make a case for the Cayenne. And how about Lamborghini? They don't make anything but sports cars now, even though they have in the past. (And Lamborghini tractors are a separate company, BTW)
This list seems pretty arbitrary, and not terribly useful with these exclusions in place.
Andy Christ (
talk)
19:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Lotus isn't on here, WHY? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.34.50 ( talk) 23:23, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
There was no consensus to delete the list. The task to classify vehicles is now being discussed. However, before this occurs, it would be good to refrain from adding random names of automakers to this list. The most recent edits included brands such as Yamaha without a basis to include them on this list, perhaps because Yamaha also makes sporty golf carts and many other "leisure" vehicles? Once again the major mainstream automakers such as Dodge, Chevrolet, and Toyota were added. Of course they make sports cars -- but their high-performance vehicles make up a small fraction of total sales volume. As I mentioned before, there could be another list with every company that has ever made a "sports car" that is broadly defined to encompass everything on wheels. This will keep enthusiasts promoting their favorite brands much more content by listing everything! — CZmarlin ( talk) 06:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
You're still not doing anything about making this list's scope clear.
Andy Christ (
talk)
06:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Just added Melling Sportcars as it fits the criterion of pure sports car maker. Needed to make it Melling Wildcat to get a proper Wikipedia link: Won't matter until the Hellcat is in production. Oddly the proper company name is Al Melling Sportscars. JG17 ( talk) 10:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
De Tomaso is missing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.175.12.222 ( talk) 18:57, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
The following have been added at some point or other and most definitely do not fit the current criteria:
Nasty ( talk) 10:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
The Spyker D12 isn't meant as a SUV it is meant as a hommage to the Peking-to-Paris rally. Therefor it is a (rally) Sport car. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.45.189.232 ( talk) 04:48, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Aren't GTs also a type of sports car, though? I think Ferrari should stay on for that reason. Redstoneprime ( talk) 20:10, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
MB SLR McLaren is just a GT not a sports car? LG4761 ( talk) 10:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
This list is rather ridiculous as it stands! Ferrari-Scaglietti is missing, even though Dottor Enzo only ever made road-legal cars for sale to milk the the rich people and pour ALL of that money into car racing activity. The only reason the 599 or the 612 exists is to keep the Scuderia running in Formula-1.
In this regard Ferrari is the purest possible "sports car" maker, since their road-going cars exist solely to support racing and those road-legal cars are direct recipients of racing-track tech and know-how. Even the model 612 whale has a prominent F1-derived paddle-shifter.
Furthermore, it should be realized that the Ferrari company, which manufactures giant forklifts for handling cargo ship containers or another one that makes furniture door joints for IKEA, etc. are not the same as the Maranello car shop. There are a lot of Ferrari companies in Italy, as it is a very common family name! 91.82.32.253 ( talk) 00:15, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Im being either bold or rude, but i want to know exactly why this article includes only dedicated sports car makers? the list gets up to 400 hits per day, quadrupling during Indy season, and i would guess that most of the readers want a list of all sports car makers. I started a small list of notable models/makers that also make other types of cars. I would suggest that if there is a serious desire to keep this list "clean", that the subject be opened up to some form of debate or discussion, maybe at the Wikiproject Automobiles. However, I should note that since this is not my main area of editing, if there is serious "ownership" of the article by a "cabal", i will politely back out, as i like to avoid warfare. Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 06:50, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Moved here from my talkpage. -- DeFacto ( talk). 09:03, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
I see you [DeFacto] made some changes on my edit of the "List of exclusively sports cars" page, and you removed some which, as you stated, are "converters". This has me a but confused, as you have allowed tuning brands such as RUF and Gemballa to also stay on the page. Redstoneprime ( talk) 08:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
I've removed some more. I have kept brands like Hennessey and Ruf, however, as they also make their own cars. If you don't think they belong, however, feel free to remove them. Redstoneprime ( talk) 07:46, 13 July 2020 (UTC)