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I only wanted to say that this table is the most nifty and pleasant-looking rulers' table I've seen. Great job! whoever made it. [[User:Halibutt| Halibutt]] 10:44, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)
Seeing the note concerning the accuracy of this list of rulers, I consulted some history books on Ethiopia, & created a new table, which I'm proposing to replace the current one with. You can take a look at it at Rulers and Heads of State of Ethiopia/Temp. If no one objects, I'll make the change a week or a little longer from today.
The major changes are:
My sources are Paul B. Henze's book, Layers of Time: A History of Ethiopia, & from the writings of G.W.B. Huntingford (in his 2 or 3 books about Ethiopia that I've read so far, he consistently uses a chronology at variance with Henze's). -- llywrch 22:33, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Comments? Objections? -- llywrch 22:33, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Why are the initial letters capitalized in Heads of State? Isn't head of state a common noun phrase? Michael Hardy 01:48, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Is there any reason we need to list Emepror Haile Selassie's titles? He is the only monarch whose style is given here, & its inclusion is incongruous. -- llywrch 04:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I am going to add the kings from the article Kings of Axum (a list of kings from c. 100 AD to c. 900 AD), as well as the four known leaders of D'mt (W`RN HYWT, RD'M, RBH, and LMN, in order). I am also deleting Haile Selassie's long list of titles, for both congruency, and also because it implies that he was the only one to use this title (which is not the case).
Yom 06:10, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I found this interesting article on the Zagwe dynasty that makes do with what little archaelogical work has been done (it's a shame, only 3% of Aksum is excavated, and practically nothing of Lasta and Wag - w/o chronicles and the like, we would know practically nothing!). It argues that the Zagwe dynasty was actually a Golden age of Ethiopia and a period of stability and advanced culture, whereas the Solomonic restoration was actually a relative decline. It makes the argument through urbanism and argues that the Zagwe dynasty was a continuation of Aksum (although this is not the major point of the paper) through much of its culture (church building, urbanism, etc., though not in the "priest-king" tradition - interesting how D'mt had priest-kings, too, but a relation is very unlikely). Apparently some of the incongruity may stem from the fact that most known accounts were made during the Solomonic dynasty, which tried to discredit the Zagwe dynasty as illegitimate usurpers. By the way, I really think Solomonid dynasty should be moved to Solomonic dynasty. There is no difference in popularity (10k vs. 10.4k, but a lot are probably wiki mirrors), but the latter is makes more sense. Google offers the correction -ic as opposed to -id (-ic as in derived from Solomon, as opposed to -id which is more like oid, meaning something similar to "like Solomon").
Tekeste Negash: The Zagwe period re-interpreted: post-Aksumite Ethiopian urban culture
Yom 07:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
An anonymous user keeps adding the traditional 40 year reigns for the Zagwe dates, when they aren't at all agreed upon. Firstly, there are two traditional lists (one with only 5 rulers and only 133 years long), and secondly, historians don't agree at all with the 40 year reigns for all those kings, as it would be very unlikely. Moreover, 916 doesn't fit with the other dates that have been proposed for the fall of Aksum/Post-Aksumite period, which would have happened either 950 AD or 850 AD according to current evidence. — ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk • E 18:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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This is a picture of "Alchitrof, Emperor of Ethiopia" as it can be seen in the Uffizi in Florence. In the list I cannot find a person whose name resmebles that of "Alchitrof." Can anyone tell which king is meant to be represented by this painting? Thanks in advance, Jeff5102 ( talk) 18:01, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
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I only wanted to say that this table is the most nifty and pleasant-looking rulers' table I've seen. Great job! whoever made it. [[User:Halibutt| Halibutt]] 10:44, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)
Seeing the note concerning the accuracy of this list of rulers, I consulted some history books on Ethiopia, & created a new table, which I'm proposing to replace the current one with. You can take a look at it at Rulers and Heads of State of Ethiopia/Temp. If no one objects, I'll make the change a week or a little longer from today.
The major changes are:
My sources are Paul B. Henze's book, Layers of Time: A History of Ethiopia, & from the writings of G.W.B. Huntingford (in his 2 or 3 books about Ethiopia that I've read so far, he consistently uses a chronology at variance with Henze's). -- llywrch 22:33, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Comments? Objections? -- llywrch 22:33, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Why are the initial letters capitalized in Heads of State? Isn't head of state a common noun phrase? Michael Hardy 01:48, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Is there any reason we need to list Emepror Haile Selassie's titles? He is the only monarch whose style is given here, & its inclusion is incongruous. -- llywrch 04:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I am going to add the kings from the article Kings of Axum (a list of kings from c. 100 AD to c. 900 AD), as well as the four known leaders of D'mt (W`RN HYWT, RD'M, RBH, and LMN, in order). I am also deleting Haile Selassie's long list of titles, for both congruency, and also because it implies that he was the only one to use this title (which is not the case).
Yom 06:10, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I found this interesting article on the Zagwe dynasty that makes do with what little archaelogical work has been done (it's a shame, only 3% of Aksum is excavated, and practically nothing of Lasta and Wag - w/o chronicles and the like, we would know practically nothing!). It argues that the Zagwe dynasty was actually a Golden age of Ethiopia and a period of stability and advanced culture, whereas the Solomonic restoration was actually a relative decline. It makes the argument through urbanism and argues that the Zagwe dynasty was a continuation of Aksum (although this is not the major point of the paper) through much of its culture (church building, urbanism, etc., though not in the "priest-king" tradition - interesting how D'mt had priest-kings, too, but a relation is very unlikely). Apparently some of the incongruity may stem from the fact that most known accounts were made during the Solomonic dynasty, which tried to discredit the Zagwe dynasty as illegitimate usurpers. By the way, I really think Solomonid dynasty should be moved to Solomonic dynasty. There is no difference in popularity (10k vs. 10.4k, but a lot are probably wiki mirrors), but the latter is makes more sense. Google offers the correction -ic as opposed to -id (-ic as in derived from Solomon, as opposed to -id which is more like oid, meaning something similar to "like Solomon").
Tekeste Negash: The Zagwe period re-interpreted: post-Aksumite Ethiopian urban culture
Yom 07:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
An anonymous user keeps adding the traditional 40 year reigns for the Zagwe dates, when they aren't at all agreed upon. Firstly, there are two traditional lists (one with only 5 rulers and only 133 years long), and secondly, historians don't agree at all with the 40 year reigns for all those kings, as it would be very unlikely. Moreover, 916 doesn't fit with the other dates that have been proposed for the fall of Aksum/Post-Aksumite period, which would have happened either 950 AD or 850 AD according to current evidence. — ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk • E 18:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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This is a picture of "Alchitrof, Emperor of Ethiopia" as it can be seen in the Uffizi in Florence. In the list I cannot find a person whose name resmebles that of "Alchitrof." Can anyone tell which king is meant to be represented by this painting? Thanks in advance, Jeff5102 ( talk) 18:01, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
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The section on Victor Emmanuel III, who claimed the title of Emperor during the Italian occupation, has been removed a few times by different users. What is the concensus on how to approach this? While he is not commonly accepted as Emperor by Ethiopians, he did technically claim the title. Other monarch lists on Wikipedia include monarchs who are not commonly accepted by the modern day people of those countries, such as List of English monarchs including Louis VIII of France who often isn't recognised as a monarch of England, though technically he was. -- User:And Leave ( talk) 11:04, 23 March 2022 (GMT)