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The list contains tribes mentioned by some chronicles plus their adherence (dubious) and related 'ancestry'. In addition some tribes are never mentioned; the names are deducted. So it is complete nonsense.
I propose to list all the tribes mentioned by chronicles with chronicle name and some posible localisation.
Cautious ( talk) 22:26, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Why? Warmia used to be populates by Baltic Prussians. After their extermination by Teutonic Order, Poles from Masovia, Masurs, populated southern part of it and become known as Warmiaks. The main difference between Masurs and Warmiaks is religion. None of such a development happenned in medieval times. And obviously there were never Slavic tribe of Warmiaks. Cautious ( talk) 23:09, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
+1 for possible localization instead of "ancestry". E.g. in 1237 Batu invaded Rus' territory, which led to massive migrations of people. So how can we provably bind earlier tribes with nowadays nations? 188.17.190.124 ( talk) 21:47, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Severians mostly ancestors of Ukrainians — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.63.45.89 ( talk) 15:21, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
The medieval or old Slavic tribes according to the Primary Chronicle were:
Bošnjani were in the Middle Ages a regional demonym, not a Slavic Tribe. Regional demonyms of the one Serb Tribe were also Rašani, Dukljani, Zahumljani, Neretljani, as stated explicitly in the De Administrando Imperio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.23.94.50 ( talk) 17:07, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
They are Croats not Serbs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.252.239.104 ( talk) 16:13, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Miki Filigranski Please, give the sources for your edit: [1]. And the authors must be modern historians.-- Nicoljaus ( talk) 17:38, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
The maps seem to be very interesting and important, is it possible for an English translation for them to be made? CrownedLime747 ( talk) 06:38, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
There seems to be a bit of a terminological confusion regarding Veneti, Antae and Sclaveni, probably owing to Byzantine historians' tendency to either make up names or revive old ones. So the Antes are East Slavs and the Veneti are West Slavs. The Balkan Antes hail from the East Slavic Antes—okay, so far, so good. However, where do the Sclaveni come from? No article, including their own, seems to consider it worth discussing. But it is, as otherwise there may be critical factual flaws in the article.
The way I understand things, the Sclaveni are basically Veneti, who were renamed Sclaveini by the Byzantine historians, after they started raiding the Danubian provinces of the Empire. And at some point, all Slavs on the Balkans became Sclaveni to the Byzantines, probably because they felt like it. I also rummaged through Fine and Hupchik just now, and neither of them sheds more clarity. Can someone weigh in, please? Thanks! VMORO 03:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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The list contains tribes mentioned by some chronicles plus their adherence (dubious) and related 'ancestry'. In addition some tribes are never mentioned; the names are deducted. So it is complete nonsense.
I propose to list all the tribes mentioned by chronicles with chronicle name and some posible localisation.
Cautious ( talk) 22:26, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Why? Warmia used to be populates by Baltic Prussians. After their extermination by Teutonic Order, Poles from Masovia, Masurs, populated southern part of it and become known as Warmiaks. The main difference between Masurs and Warmiaks is religion. None of such a development happenned in medieval times. And obviously there were never Slavic tribe of Warmiaks. Cautious ( talk) 23:09, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
+1 for possible localization instead of "ancestry". E.g. in 1237 Batu invaded Rus' territory, which led to massive migrations of people. So how can we provably bind earlier tribes with nowadays nations? 188.17.190.124 ( talk) 21:47, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Severians mostly ancestors of Ukrainians — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.63.45.89 ( talk) 15:21, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
The medieval or old Slavic tribes according to the Primary Chronicle were:
Bošnjani were in the Middle Ages a regional demonym, not a Slavic Tribe. Regional demonyms of the one Serb Tribe were also Rašani, Dukljani, Zahumljani, Neretljani, as stated explicitly in the De Administrando Imperio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.23.94.50 ( talk) 17:07, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
They are Croats not Serbs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.252.239.104 ( talk) 16:13, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Miki Filigranski Please, give the sources for your edit: [1]. And the authors must be modern historians.-- Nicoljaus ( talk) 17:38, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
The maps seem to be very interesting and important, is it possible for an English translation for them to be made? CrownedLime747 ( talk) 06:38, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
There seems to be a bit of a terminological confusion regarding Veneti, Antae and Sclaveni, probably owing to Byzantine historians' tendency to either make up names or revive old ones. So the Antes are East Slavs and the Veneti are West Slavs. The Balkan Antes hail from the East Slavic Antes—okay, so far, so good. However, where do the Sclaveni come from? No article, including their own, seems to consider it worth discussing. But it is, as otherwise there may be critical factual flaws in the article.
The way I understand things, the Sclaveni are basically Veneti, who were renamed Sclaveini by the Byzantine historians, after they started raiding the Danubian provinces of the Empire. And at some point, all Slavs on the Balkans became Sclaveni to the Byzantines, probably because they felt like it. I also rummaged through Fine and Hupchik just now, and neither of them sheds more clarity. Can someone weigh in, please? Thanks! VMORO 03:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)