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As described in the section on orca, killer whales have never been known to attack divers or other humans, and therefore should not be listed as a danger to divers. They seem to show intense interest in divers, however, and often interact with them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.35.207 ( talk) 08:56, 26 October 2004
Many marine animals can bite if molested but are cannot be considered dangerous on this count. People are not a food sources for Groupers. We have very large Groupers but I have never heard of an incident of unprovoked aggression. If Groupers are to be added back in please cite ref. Ex nihil ( talk) 05:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Can't find a good source to verify that this isn't a myth. Being somewhat extraordinary, getting compacted inside a hard helmet should be documented somewhere if it's real. -- Andreas Ravn ( talk) 22:34, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
In the book "Investigating Recreational and Commercial Diving Accidents, by Steven M. Barsky and Tom Neuman, M.D., FACP, FACPM. 2003. ISBN #: 0-9674305-3-4 it recounts an incident in the mid 1980s of a diver in the Gulf of Mexico getting "squeezed" (pages 90-91) causing him to stop breathing and sufferung massive hemorrhage of the blood vessels of the eyes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.123.192.196 ( talk) 00:12, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
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This article is a disaster and almost entirely OR and opinion. I wanted to clean it up but it seems I'd have to remove just about everything. Beach drifter ( talk) 01:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
I would like comment on whether the table format is appropriate for this article. I am inclined to think that ordinary section and subsection format would both look better, and take up less white space. Example of normal formatting for a listed hazard:
Consequences: Reduced core temperature, shivering, loss of strength, reduced level of conscuousness, loss of consciousness and eventually death.
Causes and mechanism: Losing body heat to the water. Water carries heat away far better than air. Cold water is very effective at removing body heat.
Avoidance and prevention: In cool or cold water, insulate against excessive heat loss by wearing an adequate diving suit for the conditions. The head is a major area of heat loss as it is well perfused and must be kept warm to remain conscious, so vasoconstriction is less marked than other body regions which can still function and survive when chilled.
Etc.
Actually, when I come to think of it, maybe the title should just be Diving hazards. Comments invited. I will make changes if there is a consensus, or if no-one objects within a month. Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:12, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
'Citation needed' notices on this section have been unaddressed since 2012. I have added new ones for material added 12 Feb 2014. Since the whole section is unsourced for some time I will delete the section shortly unless supported. Quick research suggests it is dubious at best but you may know better. E x nihil ( talk) 03:20, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
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@ Pbsouthwood: in response to your query on my talk page, here's a few thoughts of mine. Diving is a highly technical area. I'm not an expert, so I'll limit my comments to generic observations about article structure and organization. I looked at
My first thought is that there's extensive overlap between these. While there's certainly room for multiple articles about diving, it seems like 5 articles with this much overlap is excessive.
Looking at
List of signs and symptoms of diving disorders, I think the entire lede could be deleted. It's a general overview of the physiology of diving, which is covered elsewhere.
I also looked at
Human factors in diving safety. It has extensive copyright problems. See
the earwig report. I'll take a closer look at it when I'm done with this, but my hunch at the moment is that it may be a candidate for
WP:G12.
But, to get to the core question at hand,
List of diving hazards and precautions, this is very much an
WP:ADVICE
WP:NOTADVICE article. Most of it is a table of hazards and how to avoid them. The "how to avoid them" part is classic
WP:NOTHOWTO. --
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As described in the section on orca, killer whales have never been known to attack divers or other humans, and therefore should not be listed as a danger to divers. They seem to show intense interest in divers, however, and often interact with them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.35.207 ( talk) 08:56, 26 October 2004
Many marine animals can bite if molested but are cannot be considered dangerous on this count. People are not a food sources for Groupers. We have very large Groupers but I have never heard of an incident of unprovoked aggression. If Groupers are to be added back in please cite ref. Ex nihil ( talk) 05:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Can't find a good source to verify that this isn't a myth. Being somewhat extraordinary, getting compacted inside a hard helmet should be documented somewhere if it's real. -- Andreas Ravn ( talk) 22:34, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
In the book "Investigating Recreational and Commercial Diving Accidents, by Steven M. Barsky and Tom Neuman, M.D., FACP, FACPM. 2003. ISBN #: 0-9674305-3-4 it recounts an incident in the mid 1980s of a diver in the Gulf of Mexico getting "squeezed" (pages 90-91) causing him to stop breathing and sufferung massive hemorrhage of the blood vessels of the eyes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.123.192.196 ( talk) 00:12, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
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"This video belongs to Discovery Network, I DO NOT OWN THIS, NO COPYRIGHT INTENDED"
This article is a disaster and almost entirely OR and opinion. I wanted to clean it up but it seems I'd have to remove just about everything. Beach drifter ( talk) 01:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
I would like comment on whether the table format is appropriate for this article. I am inclined to think that ordinary section and subsection format would both look better, and take up less white space. Example of normal formatting for a listed hazard:
Consequences: Reduced core temperature, shivering, loss of strength, reduced level of conscuousness, loss of consciousness and eventually death.
Causes and mechanism: Losing body heat to the water. Water carries heat away far better than air. Cold water is very effective at removing body heat.
Avoidance and prevention: In cool or cold water, insulate against excessive heat loss by wearing an adequate diving suit for the conditions. The head is a major area of heat loss as it is well perfused and must be kept warm to remain conscious, so vasoconstriction is less marked than other body regions which can still function and survive when chilled.
Etc.
Actually, when I come to think of it, maybe the title should just be Diving hazards. Comments invited. I will make changes if there is a consensus, or if no-one objects within a month. Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:12, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
'Citation needed' notices on this section have been unaddressed since 2012. I have added new ones for material added 12 Feb 2014. Since the whole section is unsourced for some time I will delete the section shortly unless supported. Quick research suggests it is dubious at best but you may know better. E x nihil ( talk) 03:20, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
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@ Pbsouthwood: in response to your query on my talk page, here's a few thoughts of mine. Diving is a highly technical area. I'm not an expert, so I'll limit my comments to generic observations about article structure and organization. I looked at
My first thought is that there's extensive overlap between these. While there's certainly room for multiple articles about diving, it seems like 5 articles with this much overlap is excessive.
Looking at
List of signs and symptoms of diving disorders, I think the entire lede could be deleted. It's a general overview of the physiology of diving, which is covered elsewhere.
I also looked at
Human factors in diving safety. It has extensive copyright problems. See
the earwig report. I'll take a closer look at it when I'm done with this, but my hunch at the moment is that it may be a candidate for
WP:G12.
But, to get to the core question at hand,
List of diving hazards and precautions, this is very much an
WP:ADVICE
WP:NOTADVICE article. Most of it is a table of hazards and how to avoid them. The "how to avoid them" part is classic
WP:NOTHOWTO. --
RoySmith
(talk)
18:38, 5 April 2020 (UTC)