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...as opposed to what? We already have a list of demons, and this distinction between a "real" and "fictional" demon doesn't make any sense to me. Could someone explain why we need both articles? Thanks! - Flying Toaster 09:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
...Lilith in both lists. She is a theological demon that was featured in some episodes of a fictional show. If she is included in both lists it stands to reason so should Satan/Lucifer etc because there have been many fictional books/movies/tv shows that feature him, but he is also a theological demon. I'm sure there are many other demons that could make this logical cross-over between lists, but I don't think they should, otherwise there is no point in separating the lists. Butterflysting ( talk) 02:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
How should it work with characters that are half demon etc.Doyle is here and he is half demon. So what about Connor human but inluded in demon categories and cordelia born human but turned into part demon later on. Any thoughts? RafikiSykes ( talk) 20:43, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
When I expanded the preface, I may have been fooled by the absence of Screwtape, who was discussed at the other Talk page. See Talk: list of theological demons#Fictional vs theological demons.
I read all the listings and improved many, primarily to make them more uniform, secondarily to give more information with fewer links. Main points:
Every listing might now include (a) one setof parentheses; (b) two bluelinks, one bluelink, or {clarification needed}. That's approximately true, I won't check it.
Where I needed to follow a link in order to be confident about completing those steps (eg, provide author firstname), I may have added something that I learned (eg, "novel series"). But I didn't really do any content research for its own sake, only added a little info by accident in the course of re-arranging it.
I did all this in one revision, and "Compare versions" works well everywhere except a few entries that begin at 'Hastur' (because I didn't otherwise add or cut any entries, or any blank lines).
Someone who knows many of these demons may usefully take a look at that revision (bold). Or someone who knows video and role-playing games -- P64 ( talk) 19:39, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Is there some standard for list articles that require them to be in a list? It seems to me that this article might do better in a tabular format. There are a number of series, for instance, that have large numbers of demons. A sort-able table could be sorted alphabetically as it currently is or sorted by source. This may make editing more difficult and loading a table of that size may make page loading slower. I could see those as objections. Any thoughts? -- Jamal Wills T/ C 22:10, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
I think this would not survive in the German Wikipedia more than one hour. But I like these corners in the English Wikipedia! If these lists would not exist, I would have to create my own lists.
By the way: where are the Dadedra from Oblivion (Game)? I think they are demons too in the sense of this article.
It should be mentioned, that many of the demons in video games and/or in films come from novels and plays, for instance The Dybbuk (a demon in a Yiddish theatre play). To do these lists you will have to have the same knowledge and education as in any other corner (mountains, swamps and so on, not litearally) of Wikipedia! -- 13Peewit ( talk) 19:07, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Satan, lucifer, the devil, etc. Should this be a distinct list? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 08:48, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm thinking of moving this page to List of fictional demons and devils and then adding additional items like that guy from Devil's Advocate (movie), Louis Cipher from Angel Heart, the devil from South Park, etc... Objections? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 04:25, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Here's a possible, incomplete list:
Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 04:53, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Ah, hell! I just googled "devil in fiction" and got Devil in popular culture. It is not linked anywhere in this article, which is should be. I'm undoing the move. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:27, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
These two should be linked together either with hatnotes or see also entries. You decide which.
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...as opposed to what? We already have a list of demons, and this distinction between a "real" and "fictional" demon doesn't make any sense to me. Could someone explain why we need both articles? Thanks! - Flying Toaster 09:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
...Lilith in both lists. She is a theological demon that was featured in some episodes of a fictional show. If she is included in both lists it stands to reason so should Satan/Lucifer etc because there have been many fictional books/movies/tv shows that feature him, but he is also a theological demon. I'm sure there are many other demons that could make this logical cross-over between lists, but I don't think they should, otherwise there is no point in separating the lists. Butterflysting ( talk) 02:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
How should it work with characters that are half demon etc.Doyle is here and he is half demon. So what about Connor human but inluded in demon categories and cordelia born human but turned into part demon later on. Any thoughts? RafikiSykes ( talk) 20:43, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
When I expanded the preface, I may have been fooled by the absence of Screwtape, who was discussed at the other Talk page. See Talk: list of theological demons#Fictional vs theological demons.
I read all the listings and improved many, primarily to make them more uniform, secondarily to give more information with fewer links. Main points:
Every listing might now include (a) one setof parentheses; (b) two bluelinks, one bluelink, or {clarification needed}. That's approximately true, I won't check it.
Where I needed to follow a link in order to be confident about completing those steps (eg, provide author firstname), I may have added something that I learned (eg, "novel series"). But I didn't really do any content research for its own sake, only added a little info by accident in the course of re-arranging it.
I did all this in one revision, and "Compare versions" works well everywhere except a few entries that begin at 'Hastur' (because I didn't otherwise add or cut any entries, or any blank lines).
Someone who knows many of these demons may usefully take a look at that revision (bold). Or someone who knows video and role-playing games -- P64 ( talk) 19:39, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Is there some standard for list articles that require them to be in a list? It seems to me that this article might do better in a tabular format. There are a number of series, for instance, that have large numbers of demons. A sort-able table could be sorted alphabetically as it currently is or sorted by source. This may make editing more difficult and loading a table of that size may make page loading slower. I could see those as objections. Any thoughts? -- Jamal Wills T/ C 22:10, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
I think this would not survive in the German Wikipedia more than one hour. But I like these corners in the English Wikipedia! If these lists would not exist, I would have to create my own lists.
By the way: where are the Dadedra from Oblivion (Game)? I think they are demons too in the sense of this article.
It should be mentioned, that many of the demons in video games and/or in films come from novels and plays, for instance The Dybbuk (a demon in a Yiddish theatre play). To do these lists you will have to have the same knowledge and education as in any other corner (mountains, swamps and so on, not litearally) of Wikipedia! -- 13Peewit ( talk) 19:07, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Satan, lucifer, the devil, etc. Should this be a distinct list? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 08:48, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm thinking of moving this page to List of fictional demons and devils and then adding additional items like that guy from Devil's Advocate (movie), Louis Cipher from Angel Heart, the devil from South Park, etc... Objections? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 04:25, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Here's a possible, incomplete list:
Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 04:53, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Ah, hell! I just googled "devil in fiction" and got Devil in popular culture. It is not linked anywhere in this article, which is should be. I'm undoing the move. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:27, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
These two should be linked together either with hatnotes or see also entries. You decide which.