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On March 28th, Montiel will fight Diego Óscar Silva for the WBO interim Bantamweight title, because on that date, Penalosa will still hold the Bantamweight title. He will have a tune-up fight on February 21st before moving up to fight JuanMa López at 122lb on April 25th. As for the vacant junior bantamweight title, José López has signed to fight Pramuansak Posuwan, the WBO #1 and #2-ranked fighters. claudevsq ( talk) 13:22, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
UPDATE: Apparently, JuanMa López still hasn't signed for this fight, and Penalosa, after his non-title fight against Meraz this month, is set to defend his bantamweight crown against the interim champion who will be decided on March 28th, otherwise, Penalosa would be stripped off his 118-lb-title, says the WBO. claudevsq ( talk) 17:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
This is an e-mail from the WBC:
Dear Friend: Thank you for contacting us.
Manny Pacquiao is the WBC Lightweight Champion and theWorld Boxing Council will support him 100%.
He is currently in the voluntary stage of his championship, so he has no mandatory fight.
If there is anything we can assist you with, please let us know. Kind regards, Tito Gonzalez WBC-INFO
claudevsq ( talk) 12:54, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
The WBO, by request of M. Rivera of O. R. Promotions, elevated Victor Emilio Ramírez to full champion status. The WBO commitee decided so in January during their 21st annual convention. As follows, Maccarinelli vs. Afolabi will indeed be for the interim title. As for Montiel, he vacated his title. See here: http://www.wbo-int.com/ (Under "CHAMPIONS") claudevsq ( talk) 19:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
The nb that is used to identify these champions could be improved. Note is more widely understood and less annoying. Any other ideas?-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 03:20, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
They must be singular unless we decide to merge the sanctioning bodies columns. A note indicating Chagaev is "Co-Champions." is incorrect-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 21:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Since no one seems to have any other opinions, I'm going to eliminate the notes and put the text in the table, below the champion's name (ex. Interim world champion)-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 20:32, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Claudevsq, you reverted these changes with the edit summary "Please discuss such major changes first on discussion page." The changes have been discussed here (and the edit summaries linked to this discussion). The changes to the tables made them easier to understand. What don't you like about the new format?-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 20:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Response to third opinion request: |
I think that the table form is easier to read and understand than the footnoted "nb" one. Footnotes from tables do have their place, especially where complicated information needs to be presented that would clutter the table, but in this case, the info seems to fit in the table without problems, so that the reader doesn't have to flip to the end of the page to find out what the note means. There's nothing wrong with the footnotes per se, and they don't break any guidelines that I'm aware of, but they do seem to me to be slightly less helpful than the table format.— Anaxial ( talk) 11:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC) |
The sentences "Thus, all four organizations consider only themselves and the other three organizations to be major sanctioning bodies. They do not consider organizations such as the IBO and IBA to be major sanctioning bodies." look like an unpublished synthesis. See WP:SYNTH-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 19:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Done The suspect sentences have been removed.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 00:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Is there a source for this? Everything I've seen says he is Champion-in-Recess. [1] -- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 21:01, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Since Ruslan Chagaev returned from his period in recess with victory over Carl Davis Drumond on February 7, 2009 to retain his title, Valuev is now regarded by the WBA as "Co-Active Champion", along with Chagaev. Valuev had previously been "Active Champion" during the period Chagaev was regarded as "Champion In Recess". Their scheduled fight, which takes place no later than June 26, 2009, will determine who the WBA regard as their "Undisputed Champion".
Maybe, you could ask the person who wrote this (see history) and find out more... Regardless of all that, I know that the "Co-champion-thing" is the right one... Greetings, claudevsq ( talk) 07:15, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
The WBA updated their site and are calling Chagaev "champion in recess"-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 06:24, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
NB: They are going to fight each other no later than September anyway... claudevsq ( talk) 05:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Re: The link will work in a few days, give them a chance. I already changed it not to forget it afterwards... This is the place to put changes that you want to make in the future.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 17:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
http://www.wbaonline.com/legal/WBARulesADOPTEDPUNTACANA2008.pdf
http://wbanews.com/artman/uploads/1/WBARulesADOPTEDPUNTACANA2008.pdf
Greetings, claudevsq ( talk) 18:48, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
This is unnecessarily cluttered. The list should only have one flag unless they hold multiple nationalities.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 22:12, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Since when was Darchinyan American? He is Armenian with Australian citizenship- ergo both flags should be on here. This article should reflect this and also what is it with Afolabi being labelled as American? He refers to himself as British; Boxrec is an incredible source of information but is completely unreliable for nationalities, just look at John Duddy as an example of this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.110.42 ( talk) 13:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, I've never heard him say that but I won't doubt the veracity of your claim. He does hold a British passport, though, and as I've said has done an interview with Sky Sports in the past where he has described himself as British, so maybe there is a case for both flags. This page gets vandalised too much as it is anyway.
Clearly I was still talking about Afolabi, but lets face it, you are the loquacious self-imposed moderator of this page and everything should be ratified by you and you alone. Australia does fall under the jurisdiction of the Crown, though, so you do make an interesting point there. I'll leave it with you- Good day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.110.42 ( talk) 18:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
See here: http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=19141 claudevsq ( talk) 05:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Montiel fought Silva for the interim title, Penalosa still holds the full title, but only up to April25th, because he wants to enter the ring as champion against Juan Manuel López (Champion vs. Champion). But on the same day, after the match (despite of the outcome) , he will lay down his belt, and Montiel will become the full champion. Just talked to the WBO. claudevsq ( talk) 14:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
The last paragraph is sure to interest you and your phoney and, frankly, downright frivolous claims.
http://www.setanta.com/uk/Articles/other-sports/2009/04/09/Boxing-Afolabi-on-next-fight/gnid-47982/
I advise you call the WBO, as you claim to do regularly, and ask them what nationality one of their champions is if you need further proof. I can smell your rather large serving of humble pie from here! Mmmm! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.110.42 ( talk) 19:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
How come Vic Darchinyan is in this list, where it tells in his profile that he is now former champion?-- NovaSkola ( talk) 03:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
While this point is trivial and will not affect the list in any significant manner, I do believe that we need to make sure that the weight names here match the title of their respective articles, i.e. Super lightweight ↔ Light welterweight et al. Users that are reading these articles for fun/information/boredom and are unfamiliar with the concepts may become confused, even tough the names are used interchangeably. - Caribbean~H.Q. 08:38, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
OK, I thought about it again, VK and Carib, I will do it and we'll see how it looks. The WBA and WBC use the same names for their weight classes bar one, as is the case for the IBF, WBO and Ring Magazine. Greetings, claudevsq ( talk) 18:54, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I understand the IBO isn't one of the major four but nor is The Ring. So why isn't the IBO listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.195.205 ( talk) 19:28, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Two days ago, the WBA elevated Mikkel Kessler to "Super Champion" status, leaving the regular world title vacant. This move may be somehow logical because, during the "Super Six" tournament, sooner or later, one fighter will have both the WBA and WBC belts. Rankings: http://wbanews.com/artman/uploads/1/Official_ratings_as_of_August_September_2009.pdf claudevsq ( talk) 13:58, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Like we didn't have enough with the "regular", "interim", "WBO super", "WBA super", "in recess", "inactive" and "lineal" recognitions, the WBC just came up with a new belt that will presumably be defended in catchweights as well, the "WBC Diamond Belt". I'm curious how we should add these belts to the current format, my suggestion would be to add a footnote next to the winner, but we may have a problem if the winner doesn't hold any other major title. Let's get the suggestions rolling and please notice that our first lab will be Pacquiao-Cotto at 145 pounds. - Caribbean~H.Q. 00:45, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) I would ignore it to be honest.-- Vintagekits ( talk) 09:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Next Saturday, 2009/11/14, when Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Ángel Cotto will face each other at the MGM Grand for Cotto's WBO and the vacant WBC Diamond welterweight titles, Pacquiao will probably be rated at Welterweight AND Junior welterweight by The Ring Magazine if he wins. In any case, Pacquiao will keep his Ring Magazine Junior welterweight title until we see next year what turn his career will take... The IBO will give him 60 days as well to chose which titles he wants to keep should he beat Miguel. If Cotto wins, he will be the new pound-for-pound king. Plus, the winner will become the WBO "Super Champion". See: http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1300/ring_ratings_update_looking_ahead_to_pacquiaocotto/ and http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=23390 claudevsq ( talk) 18:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
UPDATE: Soto vs TBA for Valero's WBC belt
The WBC lightweight championship is now vacant. Reigning world champion Edwin Valero (27-0, 27 KOs) has been designated as a “champion in recess,” due to a severe cut on his forehead which will keep him out of the ring for some time, as well as Valero’s desire to test the waters in the super lightweight division. WBC President Jose Sulaiman said today, “The WBC is hereby naming Edwin Valero champion in recess for him to be allowed the necessary time to recover from the injury, and to make his decision regarding the division where he will continue his career.”
In the meantime, to not freeze the title, the WBC will determine an opponent for Humberto Soto, who will fight for the 135lb green belt after a vote by the WBC Board of Governors is held.
From the article: http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1624/ring_ratings_update_adamek_vacates_pacquiao_holds_on_to_ring_title/
Tomasz Adamek has decided to relinquish the Ring's cruiserweight title. "The RING magazine cruiserweight champion Tomasz Adamek has informed us that he will be relinquishing the title in the very near future in order to continue his heavyweight campaign. As soon as the announcement becomes formal, the title will become vacant." claudevsq ( talk) 16:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Its possible that the backlash from Valero's apparent murder of his wife will hit this list soon. Also, we should expect comments from the WBC shortly, he will most likely be stripped. - Caribbean~H.Q. 16:03, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Police in Caracas, Venezuela have reported that former boxing champion Edwin Valero has killed himself in his jail cell, just hours after he was arrested for his wife’s murder. Early Monday morning, Valero used his own clothes to hang himself in his cell. claudevsq ( talk) 18:17, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
The WBC is pleased to announce and confirm the first WBC WORLD SILVER CHAMPIONSHIP bout, to be held in April in the historic city of Saint-Quentin, Picardie, France, and broadcast on French network television.
The new WBC Silver Belt will be proudly awarded to the winner of the featherweight bout between Saint-Quentin s own Cyril "the Hunter" Thomas (36 (10 KO) - 3 – 4) and the Beninese undefeated prospect Justin “le Malin” Savi (23 (15 KOs ) - 0 - 0).
WBC President José Sulaimán commented, “The inaugural WBC Silver Championship is an extraordinary accolade of the WBC World Silver Championship will create unmatched excitement and a chance for boxers to achieve, winning a title with world recognition. The WBC is delighted to work with the promoters of this bout, Pascal Cordier/Sport Evenements and R2 Image and Events, in this first bout for the World Silver Belt, to be broadcast by their French TV network partner. The WBC wishes the best of luck to both boxers in their quest to become the first ever WBC World Silver Champion.”
“The WBC World Silver Belt will present unique opportunities for boxers from every country around the world, as they ascend to challenge the reigning WBC World Champion to rule their weight division.”
President Sulaimán concluded, “Further, the WBC has always been a leader in the struggle for human equality, including its historic battle against apartheid and other barriers to human opportunity. As with every WBC championship, regardless of race, language, or any other status, this offers boxers from every continent the hope of one day challenging to win this honor: the WBC World Silver Championship.”
The World Boxing Council has created the WBC World Silver Championship Belt with the first fight to be promoted in France by promoter Bernard Roos on April 17th. The WBC Silver Belt has already been made by Mexican craftsmen and it looks very beautiful and prestigious.
This will be a very important title in the WBC in substitution of the Interim World Championship, which has lost credibility as it has been handled in a manner for which it was not created. claudevsq ( talk) 10:06, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello. During a review of lists promoted to featured status, this list has been identified as "at risk" of demotion. This means that there are some issues that could be fixed to ensure the list meets current featured list standards. If those issues are not fixed reasonably promptly (i.e. the next ten days), the list will be taken to WP:FLRC to be considered for demotion. Issues that need to be fixed, as a minimum, are as follows:
The Rambling Man ( talk) 17:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
My thoughts:
-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 22:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
It should be expanded. The footnote "The official rules and regulations of the WBA, IBF, and WBO all mention by name ..." can be incorporated into the lead. Any other ideas on what should be in there?-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 22:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Many featured articles ignore this MoS guideline (ex. all football club articles that use the Template:Football squad player).-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 22:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Okay, well please take that argument to the WP:MOS. Right now, the current use of flags contravenes the MOS which means it contravenes the criteria for what makes a featured list. It's very simple. The Rambling Man ( talk) 00:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
At Wikipedia:Featured_list_removal_candidates/List_of_current_world_boxing_champions/archive1 there was a suggestion to expand these sections with more about the formation of the organisations. It was also suggested that the sections could be eliminated and some of the material moved to the lead.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 20:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
It is clearly stated in the given references that the Nationality of Donaire is Filipino. This page follow the format of BoxRec.com where it shows the boxer's nationality by their place of birth. In fact Donaire is of Filipino descent. Donaire and his family only acquired US citizenship because they moved to US and became resident of CA, USA. Like other boxers Jean Pascal, Antonio Margarito, Giovanni Segura and Vic Darchinyan, this page put the flag of their place of birth under their names instead of their residence. Doughn ( talk • contribs) 08:40, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
The flag under Nonito Donaire in this page should be changed to Philippine flag not just for the fact that he was born in Bohol, Philppines but also because he has a Filipino blood. He only acquired permanent residency in the United States. The Ring has already updated its pound for pound list where Donaire's country was changed to Philippines instead of his residence in California, USA. The BoxRec.com, the reference that was used in this page, also use Philippine flag/Filipino for Donaire's nationality. Doughn ( talk • contribs) 10:33, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
The table is listing Wladimir Klitschko as IBF Unified champion. I've never seen the IBF use this. What is the source?-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 18:30, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
“ | No, he's unified champion, like all others who have got 2 titles. I know the WBA rankings... He'd be WBA Super champion if he had got only the WBA title... | ” |
Your request for a Third Opinion in regard to this dispute has been removed as stale, having been on the request list for more than six days. Please feel free to re-list your dispute if you still would like to obtain an opinion, but if no Third Opinion Wikipedian has chosen to issue an opinion by now, you would probably be better off moving on to a listing at the content noticeboard, making a request for comments, or adopting some other form of dispute resolution. Regards, TRANSPORTERMAN ( TALK) 21:14, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
From this discussion (Super champion and Unified champion) at WikiProject Boxing there is consensus that the term Undisputed Champion should only be used if the boxer holds all the major belts. Since Wladimir Klitschko, Timothy Bradley, Juan Manuel Márquez and Nonito Donaire do not hold all the major belts I am removing this term from their entries in the table.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 22:36, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Brandon has both nationalities: US American and Mexican. However even when born in USA he enters the ring with the Mexican flag and is oficially listed as Mexican by the WBO as you can see here, so that is why his fag should be Mexican. http://wbanews.com/artman/publish/ratingRankings/WBA_Official_Ratings_as_of_August_2011.shtml Daalo194 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.225.184.116 ( talk) 00:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Rios failed to make the 135lb weight limit therefore was stripped from his WBA "regular" title. The fight will still go on, the title will remain vacant of Rios wins. If John Murray wins he claims it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.76.54.218 ( talk) 02:47, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
I'm going to add the Puerto Rican flag next to the US'. García, son of two native Puerto Ricans, has publicly identified as Puerto Rican. Before his fight with Erik Morales he stated that he would be representing both Puerto Rico and his native Philladelphia. Even before that, he said that he would be the "next great Puerto Rican boxer", which is sourced in his biography. I have no interest in removing the US' flag, just avoid removing the Puerto Rican flag as some IP users have been doing in his article and Morales'. El Alternativo ( talk) 05:25, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
In that case, is there a real reason to actually have falgs? Besides patriotsim and WP:FLAGCRUFT it seems better to try another approach since from the looks of it, Mexican-Americans have the same issue. El Alternativo ( talk) 21:15, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
WBA | WBC | IBF | WBO | The Ring |
Lamont Peterson Super champion American 30–1–1–0 (15) December 10, 2011 |
Danny García Puerto Rican-American 23–0–0–0 (14) March 24, 2012 |
Lamont Peterson American 30–1–1–0 (15) December 10, 2011 |
Timothy Bradley American 28–0–0–1 (12) April 4, 2009 |
vacant |
Marcos René Maidana Argentinian 31–3–0–0 (28) July 23, 2011 |
José Cuervo Mexican-American 8–0–0 (0) July 26, 2011 | |||
Johan Pérez Interim champion Venezuelan 15–0–1–1 (12) December 10, 2011 |
Maybe the table above can serve as a model? It is not as pretty, but listing them this way avoids confusion, conflict and is more practical. "Puerto Rico", "Mexico" or "United States" are countries, not nationalities. Then there is the fact that Boxrec is also user edited, which in Wikipedia are generally regardded as bad sources, such as the IMDB being allowed al a link, but not a reference. El Alternativo ( talk) 21:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
No problem? I will do the change if there isn't. El Alternativo ( talk) 07:51, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Will anybody be able to find fair use pictures of the following:
How exactly are these judged? I expected the silver champions to be considered similar to interim champions, given that they are often promoted to first contender after winning it, but I do not see them listed here at all. The belt also reads "world champion", which also seems to support some sort of interim status. 24.139.224.111 ( talk) 00:47, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
As per an ongoing, unproductive and one-sided discussion about how boxers with international names should be presented in this article, I'd like some others' opinions on how we should go about it, before I seek a third opinion (however that's supposed to work..)
The list doesn't include the Diamond Champions. Should we start listing them?-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 02:22, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Why not expand the list of federations, adding the Champions version IBO? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.222.219.167 ( talk) 23:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
-Because the IBO is a Minor title this for all 4 Major title plus Ring Magazine ( WorldSeriesOfPoker500 ( talk) 01:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC))
You appear to be getting information from the media. The same media who sends out writers to cover boxing once in a blue moon. Many of the writers do not even know the difference between the mandatory 8 count that every downed boxer gets and a standing 8 count. Then standing 8 count is almost never used anywhere anymore. The IBO should be counted. The don't have multiple champions like the WBA who, when one of their champs wins another belt, calls them a SUPER CHAMPION and has another title bout in the same weight class for that same title. Thus having two champions of the same weight class only for the extra cash of the sanctioning fees. The IBO uses PC rankings and is run out of the USA vs. the W groups that are in Mexico, South America and Puerto Rico. All who are allowed to do as they please. The IBO has been around since the mid 90's and has some good champions. None of the groups may be considered great or ideal for boxing, but, The IBO and the IBF are clearly better this past 5 years becasue they have the U.S. state officials looking over them and the ABC. So, bottom line the IBO is a main title. Just because the WBA and WBC were started earlier does not make them more important. The WBO willing to deal with promoters snuck into the action but are very similar to the BC and BA. Again the IBO and IBF are actually the better of the five. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.36.176.138 ( talk) 00:19, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Would anybody be interested in helping me to get the FL-status for this list? We had the "Featured Article" status until a few years ago, but then, it was revoked. Meanwhile, we have done about everything, except putting in a photo or two. But for FL-status, it should be enough... What do you think? claudevsq ( talk) 18:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Please stop the edit war. Discuss the issue here and try to reach a consensus.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 18:43, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Look, I'm trying to make this as accurate as possible and I am sure it was for the regular title; I was there. He was installed as full WBO lightweight champion on January 26 when Marquez was stripped. I'll try find a few newspaper articles from last year but in the meantime, let's leave it as the actual date that he became WBO lightweight champion. Wowsssowss ( talk) 04:48, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
HERE'S THE OFFICIAL WBO PROOF THAT MARQUEZ WAS STILL THEIR LIGHTWEIGHT SUPER CHAMPION ON MARCH 1st, 2012:
http://www.wboboxing.com/here-is-our-february-2012-rankings-2/
As for Burns missing the words "Interim" on these corrected February rankings which came out March 1st, 2012, we all know that, just like Klitschko, Márquez and Narváez for the moment, the WBO has NEVER, EVER had a "Super" champion and a "regular" champion at the same time. If Márquez was still the champ, Burns was the interim champ, no matter if Márquez was Super or not Super. WBA yes, but WBO NEVER ONCE in their history. Lots of newspapers reported that Márquez was stripped on January 26, but that was not the case as you can finally see now officially from the WBO's original rankings... WBA stripped him, yes, but WBO did way later, a month or two later... claudevsq ( talk) 14:09, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I'll admit it; perhaps I had it wrong but one thing we can all agree on is that Burns' fight against Moses on March 10 was DEFINITELY not for the interim title and was DEFINITELY for the regular title. With this in mind, why have you changed Burns' date of installation as WBO lightweight champion to March 10? We know it wasn't on March 10 and, as suggested by the source you just left, it has to be between the 1st and 10th of March. Why don't you speak to Miss Diana Melendez again and ask her when Burns was installed as full WBO lightweight champion? Wowsssowss ( talk) 00:02, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Actually, they are. This article lists information about current world champions such as name, nationality and date of winning their championship(s). I'll stress that last point; date of winning the championship (or in this case, installment as full champion), not when "claudevsq" thinks or prefers but the date of winning the championship. That's also quite convenient how you'll try to speak to her when you "have the time" and that you "doubt she'll remember". N.B.: You, by conclusion of what you have just written, are wrong so nah. I never once said I was civilised so I implore, no, directly ask, you to point out where I said I was civilised. Wowsssowss ( talk) 00:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Absolutely spiffing! Also, you aren't right either pal, so less of your shite. We'll see who's wrong when this bird gets back to you. Wowsssowss ( talk) 21:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC) Actually, I never said I wasn't civilised, I just said I didn't say I was civilised so you're wrong again. Wowsssowss ( talk) 21:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
For the others, here the original answer from Miss Diana Meléndez, WBO executive:
Mr. Vesque:
Ricky Burns became full champion on April 12, 2012.
Diana Melendez
So... are you happy now? claudevsq ( talk) 16:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
To be completely honest, I don't know if that's actually a WBO official. How do I know you haven't made up some e-mail address and sent it to yourself? Nonetheless, for the sake of no longer possessing the will to amend incorrect articles, I shall leave it be. I hope you're happy with an incorrect article. Wowsssowss ( talk) 00:38, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
There was debate a while back about if the Ring title should be included in this list and a 'wait and see' attitude seemed to be the agreed upon course of action (see this discussion). Now that the Ring has changed its criteria, that criteria and the title itself has lost substantial credibility. [5] [6] [7] In essence, the fears from the previous conversation seem to have come true (i.e., the title has been mismanaged and no longer has credibility). I think its time the Ring title be removed from the list and the big four recognized by the International Boxing Hall of Fame be the only titles listed. What do people think?-- RonSigPi ( talk) 03:47, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Since this issue never came close to being resolved earlier in the year, I took the initiative and tried my luck again this week to see if my edits would stick. Predictably, that proved futile. Unless other users would like to lend a helping hand in advising either myself or User:Claudevsq on how to resolve this without edit warring, I will gladly keep on changing the spelling of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. (comma and period included, per the article itself and standard U.S. naming conventions) and Sergio Martínez (middle name no longer included) to reflect that of their respective articles. Beyond claiming that he "works" for the WBO ("I'm updating this list for over 5 years now, day-in and day-out, am in regular contact with the WBO"), User:Claudevsq should realise that such claims do not fly here and that despite being a primary contributor, he is effectively claiming ownership of this article by not allowing others' edits to remain. Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 15:01, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
User:Claudevsq, please start discussing your reverts, or I'm afraid your ability to edit this and other pages will become seriously limited. The Rambling Man ( talk) 16:51, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Beibut Shumenov: Became regular champion on January 29, 2010, was elevated to Super on October 8, 2013. Chris John: Became interim champion on September 26, 2003, defended (vacant?) regular title on June 4, 2004, defended Super title September 19, 2009 for first time. Guillermo Rigondeaux: Won interim title on November 13, 2010, won regular title on January 20, 2011, became unified champion on April 13, 2013. Anselmo Moreno: Won regular title on May 31, 2008, defended Super title first on June 17, 2011. claudevsq ( talk) 14:06, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Correct. But after all, we still have the "List of WBA world champions", where somebody can put all the different dates deemed important. claudevsq ( talk) 13:34, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I deleted the part that the WBO title is not recognised. The 2 links are very out of date. The BBC now recognises the WBO title. The sports illustrated link is from 1998! It is a well known fact that the WBO is held in the same esteem as the other 3 titles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.116.2 ( talk) 18:29, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
I have redone an edit I made a couple of days ago. I was just making a simple formatting change to show Guillermo Rigondeaux listed separately under the "WBO" and "The Ring" columns in the "Super bantamweight" weight class. The same person is listed as champion in adjoining columns in a couple of other weight classes (see the entries for Donnie Nietes under the "WBO" and "The Ring" columns in the "Light flyweight" category, for example). It seemed clearer to me to have the champion listed directly below the corresponding titles (like the Donnie Nietes listings). It seems like it could potentially get confusing if a single person ends up winning multiple championships (such as the "WBC," "IBF," "WBO" and "The Ring" columns) and is only listed once.
I personally wouldn't be too concerned if we went with a single listing spanning multiple columns. However, I think we should be consistent whenever this occurs.
Please let me know if there are any issues with this... I certainly don't want to get in a war of edits if other folks think we should format the listings differently. Thanks. ColdGrayLight ( talk) 02:53, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Don't worry, it's a long time ago since I insisted on anything concerning this list... ;-) By the way, the difference between Nietes and Rigondeaux is the date... Rigo won both the WBO and Ring Titles on the same date. Back when Takayama both held the IBF and WBO titles at mini flyweight for the second time, he also spanned two columns. But that's OK. claudevsq ( talk) 12:29, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Shouldn't the flag used be the Irish tricolor as he self identifies as Irish?-- Donniediamond ( talk) 11:17, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Hey there are troll in the water. How and where to report this? lots of fake champions.
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Many of the people listed as lineal champions are no longer lineal champions. All but three of the weight divisions are vacant according to tbrb.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theazor99 ( talk • contribs) 03:59, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
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I was looking at the WBA rankings page, and they list that the date that Yunier Dorticos became "regular champion" is 6-15-17. According to the same page, Miguel Flores remained WBA "interim champion" after his bout against Guillermo Rigondeaux was changed to a no decision. Also the Thammanoon Ninyomtrong is listed, by boxrec.com, as having a record consisting of 16 wins, no losses and no draws. Morning Dove ( talk) 22:52, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
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Edit the current Junior Welterweight belt holders and records. The Grammar Police ( talk) 04:02, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Under list of current champions, at Light Middleweight, it has Erislandy Lara. It says he's from Cuba and even has the Cuban flag. Lara is American. He defected from Cuba, his nickname is "The American Dream", and Boxrec lists him as American. Boxrec is one, if not the best boxing site around. I can't edit with my phone anymore. Can someone fix it please Myth420 ( talk) 13:04, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
I think something along the lines of this would be a very welcome addition to this list.
WBA | WBC | IBF | WBO | The Ring | |
Anthony Joshua Super champion United Kingdom 19–0–0–0 (19) April 29, 2017 0 defenses |
Deontay Wilder United States 38–0–0–0 (37) January 17, 2015 5 defenses |
Anthony Joshua United Kingdom 19–0–0–0 (19) April 9, 2016 3 defenses |
Joseph Parker New Zealand 23–0–0–0 (18) December 10, 2016 1 defense |
Tyson Fury United Kingdom 25–0–0–0 (18) November 28, 2015 0 defenses |
vacant |
What do you all think? Fpwlada ( talk) 15:55, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Under Anthony Joshua's name it says he is the "Super Champion". Keith Thurman and Terrence Crawford are in the same situation as Joshua, but they do not have the "Super Champion" under their names. Please either remove the "Super Champion" from Joshua or add it to other "Super Champions". I suggest this just for consistency on the list.
Also, Chayaphon Moonsri is now 48-0 according to boxrec.com
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I have extended protection as there appears to be no consensus. Please let me know when said impasse has ended, or request unprotection at WP:RFPP. Recommend some form of dispute resolution be undertaken. Cheers, Dlohcierekim ( talk) 18:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Full protection! Please do civilly discuss content of this article. Please comport yourselves in a civil manner. Dlohcierekim ( talk) 18:22, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
How is it you communicate with other people? Your language is very offensive and not an a civil level. Please refrain from using that type af language. It is not beneficial at all.
Why cant you understand that WBA will NEVER officially retire the term Super Champion, just like the WBO list their champions as super champions. It is a honorary title only.
It makes no sense to use it when there is only 1 champion in the division. You are only cunfussing people. You should know better as a boxing fan.
And again. Please watch your language and how to speak to people.
Is this guy for real? People like you makes others editors wanna stop being on wikipedia. You think this is your very own Encyclopedia, which it is not. You are not the boss.
And get your facts straight. Linares was never a Super champion, there the Super title from the lightweight was NEVER abolished.
The WBA Super title is aswell honorary.
http://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-elevated-to-wba-super-champion#.Wd6S42i0NPY
http://www.boxingscene.com/jason-sosa-vacates-wba-title-ahead-lomachenko-title-shot--113651
I just did that
Linares was never a Super champion, there the Super title from the lightweight was NEVER abolished.
The WBA Super title is aswell honorary.
http://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-elevated-to-wba-super-champion#.Wd6S42i0NPY
http://www.boxingscene.com/jason-sosa-vacates-wba-title-ahead-lomachenko-title-shot--113651
David-golota ( talk) 23:42, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
You should really watch your langauge. You the need for calling names and using negative terms about other persons. You wont go far in this world with the level of arrogance you have.
Again, this is NOT your own article nor is this your personal website. So dont act like it is.
You dont seem to answer my question. What about Crawford? He was named the super champion despite the WBA saying there will NOT be named any more champions in that divison. Is that not a honorary title then? http://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-elevated-to-wba-super-champion
And the WBA hasnt announced anything. Get your facts straight. http://www.boxingscene.com/team-oquendo-ustinov-charr-eliminator-not-wba-belt--121346
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Why dont you adress my points which I back up with facts. The WBA are making the Super Title honorary. You dont seem to adress that at all. Oh an yeah, you didnt adress your WBA heavyweight title fight either. You said the WBA had made a fight for the WBA title, which I pointed out to you they had not.
Again, read the links I have adressed from the WBA official website. Crawford holds a super title, but it is honorary only. And dont refer to me as buddy or other names. Im not your buddy, friend or any of that. Please keep any personal attack away from this discussion. 19:03, 13 October 2017 (UTC) David-golota ( talk)
My tone? Watch your own tone. Your level of arrogance is beyond what I ever thought anybody could have on this site.
You refuse to read the links from WBA official website because of my tone?
I never called you any names nor have I used offensive word. The same can not be said about you. So you should watch your own tone.
Dont get smart with me. We both know that when someone is calling another person while their having an argument it is not ment in a positive or friendly way.
So dont even bother to try to smooth it. Stop that.
I have official sources from the WBA which clearly states that Crawford is elevated to Super champion.
Since you refuse to check my sources, I will give it to you:
Considering Crawford’s achievement, his solidity as Champion at 140 pounds, which make him the best fighter of his weight class, and covered by Article C18 of the WBA Rules, which allows to elevate a boxer to Super Champion under special circumstances, the Championships Committee took the decision to grant this recognition to the American boxer. However, this does not mean that an Interim or Regular Super Lightweight title will be created. The WBA and the Championships Committee maintain their policy of having only one champion per category.
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I'm inclined to side with Mac Dreamstate here. It seems that the WBA still has "super" and "regular" champions (in some divisions, at least for heavyweight as links demonstrate), so we should use that terminology. It's obviously stupid by the WBA but that's how it is. HampsteadLord ( talk) 19:28, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
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Dmitry Bivol now WBA full champion at light heavyweight - http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-40004979-4 Fpwlada ( talk) 03:51, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi all, do we think that the International Boxing Organization should be included in this article? Their champions include Gennady Golovkin, Anthony Joshua and Chris Eubank Jr.. I believe that this is the only current worldwide organisation that is not on this page. Cheers -- Baileybobfam ( talk) 21:04, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
I don't think the IBO titles have enough recognition to be added to this list.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 00:05, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
I disagree, they have had some seriously impressive champions in years gone bye. Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko, Floyd Mayweather, Neseem Hamed, Ricky Hatton and Manny Pacquiao just to name a few.-- Baileybobfam ( talk) 14:47, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Erdei has officially vacated today, just like expected! See here: http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24848 claudevsq ( talk) 16:38, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I just called the WBO, believe it or not, their offices were robbed; that's probably why I couldn't reach them yesterday. They told me to try again on monday... For those who don't wanna believe: Tel. +1 787 765-4444. claudevsq ( talk) 16:09, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
"Hi Claude:
He is going to go into the ring with holding his champion title. However, once in the ring, he loses his title and is dependent on winning the new title.
Best,
Doris Companys" claudevsq ( talk) 00:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
They have Cuba as his flag and nationality. I mentioned this before and someone changed it to American, now it's back to Cuba. Lara defected from Cuba. Defecting is basically renouncing your nationality. He lives in America, his nickname is The American Dream, and Boxrec (one of the most reputable boxing sites out there) has him listed as American. Am I wrong here? Should he not be listed as American? Myth420 ( talk) 08:46, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
Isn't Demetrius Andrade the WBA Regular Champion. Castano is the Interim Champion, correct? I'm pretty sure, but could be wrong Myth420 ( talk) 04:43, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
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On March 28th, Montiel will fight Diego Óscar Silva for the WBO interim Bantamweight title, because on that date, Penalosa will still hold the Bantamweight title. He will have a tune-up fight on February 21st before moving up to fight JuanMa López at 122lb on April 25th. As for the vacant junior bantamweight title, José López has signed to fight Pramuansak Posuwan, the WBO #1 and #2-ranked fighters. claudevsq ( talk) 13:22, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
UPDATE: Apparently, JuanMa López still hasn't signed for this fight, and Penalosa, after his non-title fight against Meraz this month, is set to defend his bantamweight crown against the interim champion who will be decided on March 28th, otherwise, Penalosa would be stripped off his 118-lb-title, says the WBO. claudevsq ( talk) 17:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
This is an e-mail from the WBC:
Dear Friend: Thank you for contacting us.
Manny Pacquiao is the WBC Lightweight Champion and theWorld Boxing Council will support him 100%.
He is currently in the voluntary stage of his championship, so he has no mandatory fight.
If there is anything we can assist you with, please let us know. Kind regards, Tito Gonzalez WBC-INFO
claudevsq ( talk) 12:54, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
The WBO, by request of M. Rivera of O. R. Promotions, elevated Victor Emilio Ramírez to full champion status. The WBO commitee decided so in January during their 21st annual convention. As follows, Maccarinelli vs. Afolabi will indeed be for the interim title. As for Montiel, he vacated his title. See here: http://www.wbo-int.com/ (Under "CHAMPIONS") claudevsq ( talk) 19:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
The nb that is used to identify these champions could be improved. Note is more widely understood and less annoying. Any other ideas?-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 03:20, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
They must be singular unless we decide to merge the sanctioning bodies columns. A note indicating Chagaev is "Co-Champions." is incorrect-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 21:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Since no one seems to have any other opinions, I'm going to eliminate the notes and put the text in the table, below the champion's name (ex. Interim world champion)-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 20:32, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Claudevsq, you reverted these changes with the edit summary "Please discuss such major changes first on discussion page." The changes have been discussed here (and the edit summaries linked to this discussion). The changes to the tables made them easier to understand. What don't you like about the new format?-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 20:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
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I think that the table form is easier to read and understand than the footnoted "nb" one. Footnotes from tables do have their place, especially where complicated information needs to be presented that would clutter the table, but in this case, the info seems to fit in the table without problems, so that the reader doesn't have to flip to the end of the page to find out what the note means. There's nothing wrong with the footnotes per se, and they don't break any guidelines that I'm aware of, but they do seem to me to be slightly less helpful than the table format.— Anaxial ( talk) 11:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC) |
The sentences "Thus, all four organizations consider only themselves and the other three organizations to be major sanctioning bodies. They do not consider organizations such as the IBO and IBA to be major sanctioning bodies." look like an unpublished synthesis. See WP:SYNTH-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 19:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Done The suspect sentences have been removed.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 00:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Is there a source for this? Everything I've seen says he is Champion-in-Recess. [1] -- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 21:01, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Since Ruslan Chagaev returned from his period in recess with victory over Carl Davis Drumond on February 7, 2009 to retain his title, Valuev is now regarded by the WBA as "Co-Active Champion", along with Chagaev. Valuev had previously been "Active Champion" during the period Chagaev was regarded as "Champion In Recess". Their scheduled fight, which takes place no later than June 26, 2009, will determine who the WBA regard as their "Undisputed Champion".
Maybe, you could ask the person who wrote this (see history) and find out more... Regardless of all that, I know that the "Co-champion-thing" is the right one... Greetings, claudevsq ( talk) 07:15, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
The WBA updated their site and are calling Chagaev "champion in recess"-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 06:24, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
NB: They are going to fight each other no later than September anyway... claudevsq ( talk) 05:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Re: The link will work in a few days, give them a chance. I already changed it not to forget it afterwards... This is the place to put changes that you want to make in the future.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 17:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
http://www.wbaonline.com/legal/WBARulesADOPTEDPUNTACANA2008.pdf
http://wbanews.com/artman/uploads/1/WBARulesADOPTEDPUNTACANA2008.pdf
Greetings, claudevsq ( talk) 18:48, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
This is unnecessarily cluttered. The list should only have one flag unless they hold multiple nationalities.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 22:12, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Since when was Darchinyan American? He is Armenian with Australian citizenship- ergo both flags should be on here. This article should reflect this and also what is it with Afolabi being labelled as American? He refers to himself as British; Boxrec is an incredible source of information but is completely unreliable for nationalities, just look at John Duddy as an example of this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.110.42 ( talk) 13:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, I've never heard him say that but I won't doubt the veracity of your claim. He does hold a British passport, though, and as I've said has done an interview with Sky Sports in the past where he has described himself as British, so maybe there is a case for both flags. This page gets vandalised too much as it is anyway.
Clearly I was still talking about Afolabi, but lets face it, you are the loquacious self-imposed moderator of this page and everything should be ratified by you and you alone. Australia does fall under the jurisdiction of the Crown, though, so you do make an interesting point there. I'll leave it with you- Good day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.110.42 ( talk) 18:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
See here: http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=19141 claudevsq ( talk) 05:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Montiel fought Silva for the interim title, Penalosa still holds the full title, but only up to April25th, because he wants to enter the ring as champion against Juan Manuel López (Champion vs. Champion). But on the same day, after the match (despite of the outcome) , he will lay down his belt, and Montiel will become the full champion. Just talked to the WBO. claudevsq ( talk) 14:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
The last paragraph is sure to interest you and your phoney and, frankly, downright frivolous claims.
http://www.setanta.com/uk/Articles/other-sports/2009/04/09/Boxing-Afolabi-on-next-fight/gnid-47982/
I advise you call the WBO, as you claim to do regularly, and ask them what nationality one of their champions is if you need further proof. I can smell your rather large serving of humble pie from here! Mmmm! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.110.42 ( talk) 19:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
How come Vic Darchinyan is in this list, where it tells in his profile that he is now former champion?-- NovaSkola ( talk) 03:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
While this point is trivial and will not affect the list in any significant manner, I do believe that we need to make sure that the weight names here match the title of their respective articles, i.e. Super lightweight ↔ Light welterweight et al. Users that are reading these articles for fun/information/boredom and are unfamiliar with the concepts may become confused, even tough the names are used interchangeably. - Caribbean~H.Q. 08:38, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
OK, I thought about it again, VK and Carib, I will do it and we'll see how it looks. The WBA and WBC use the same names for their weight classes bar one, as is the case for the IBF, WBO and Ring Magazine. Greetings, claudevsq ( talk) 18:54, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I understand the IBO isn't one of the major four but nor is The Ring. So why isn't the IBO listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.195.205 ( talk) 19:28, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Two days ago, the WBA elevated Mikkel Kessler to "Super Champion" status, leaving the regular world title vacant. This move may be somehow logical because, during the "Super Six" tournament, sooner or later, one fighter will have both the WBA and WBC belts. Rankings: http://wbanews.com/artman/uploads/1/Official_ratings_as_of_August_September_2009.pdf claudevsq ( talk) 13:58, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Like we didn't have enough with the "regular", "interim", "WBO super", "WBA super", "in recess", "inactive" and "lineal" recognitions, the WBC just came up with a new belt that will presumably be defended in catchweights as well, the "WBC Diamond Belt". I'm curious how we should add these belts to the current format, my suggestion would be to add a footnote next to the winner, but we may have a problem if the winner doesn't hold any other major title. Let's get the suggestions rolling and please notice that our first lab will be Pacquiao-Cotto at 145 pounds. - Caribbean~H.Q. 00:45, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) I would ignore it to be honest.-- Vintagekits ( talk) 09:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Next Saturday, 2009/11/14, when Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Ángel Cotto will face each other at the MGM Grand for Cotto's WBO and the vacant WBC Diamond welterweight titles, Pacquiao will probably be rated at Welterweight AND Junior welterweight by The Ring Magazine if he wins. In any case, Pacquiao will keep his Ring Magazine Junior welterweight title until we see next year what turn his career will take... The IBO will give him 60 days as well to chose which titles he wants to keep should he beat Miguel. If Cotto wins, he will be the new pound-for-pound king. Plus, the winner will become the WBO "Super Champion". See: http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1300/ring_ratings_update_looking_ahead_to_pacquiaocotto/ and http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=23390 claudevsq ( talk) 18:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
UPDATE: Soto vs TBA for Valero's WBC belt
The WBC lightweight championship is now vacant. Reigning world champion Edwin Valero (27-0, 27 KOs) has been designated as a “champion in recess,” due to a severe cut on his forehead which will keep him out of the ring for some time, as well as Valero’s desire to test the waters in the super lightweight division. WBC President Jose Sulaiman said today, “The WBC is hereby naming Edwin Valero champion in recess for him to be allowed the necessary time to recover from the injury, and to make his decision regarding the division where he will continue his career.”
In the meantime, to not freeze the title, the WBC will determine an opponent for Humberto Soto, who will fight for the 135lb green belt after a vote by the WBC Board of Governors is held.
From the article: http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1624/ring_ratings_update_adamek_vacates_pacquiao_holds_on_to_ring_title/
Tomasz Adamek has decided to relinquish the Ring's cruiserweight title. "The RING magazine cruiserweight champion Tomasz Adamek has informed us that he will be relinquishing the title in the very near future in order to continue his heavyweight campaign. As soon as the announcement becomes formal, the title will become vacant." claudevsq ( talk) 16:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Its possible that the backlash from Valero's apparent murder of his wife will hit this list soon. Also, we should expect comments from the WBC shortly, he will most likely be stripped. - Caribbean~H.Q. 16:03, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Police in Caracas, Venezuela have reported that former boxing champion Edwin Valero has killed himself in his jail cell, just hours after he was arrested for his wife’s murder. Early Monday morning, Valero used his own clothes to hang himself in his cell. claudevsq ( talk) 18:17, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
The WBC is pleased to announce and confirm the first WBC WORLD SILVER CHAMPIONSHIP bout, to be held in April in the historic city of Saint-Quentin, Picardie, France, and broadcast on French network television.
The new WBC Silver Belt will be proudly awarded to the winner of the featherweight bout between Saint-Quentin s own Cyril "the Hunter" Thomas (36 (10 KO) - 3 – 4) and the Beninese undefeated prospect Justin “le Malin” Savi (23 (15 KOs ) - 0 - 0).
WBC President José Sulaimán commented, “The inaugural WBC Silver Championship is an extraordinary accolade of the WBC World Silver Championship will create unmatched excitement and a chance for boxers to achieve, winning a title with world recognition. The WBC is delighted to work with the promoters of this bout, Pascal Cordier/Sport Evenements and R2 Image and Events, in this first bout for the World Silver Belt, to be broadcast by their French TV network partner. The WBC wishes the best of luck to both boxers in their quest to become the first ever WBC World Silver Champion.”
“The WBC World Silver Belt will present unique opportunities for boxers from every country around the world, as they ascend to challenge the reigning WBC World Champion to rule their weight division.”
President Sulaimán concluded, “Further, the WBC has always been a leader in the struggle for human equality, including its historic battle against apartheid and other barriers to human opportunity. As with every WBC championship, regardless of race, language, or any other status, this offers boxers from every continent the hope of one day challenging to win this honor: the WBC World Silver Championship.”
The World Boxing Council has created the WBC World Silver Championship Belt with the first fight to be promoted in France by promoter Bernard Roos on April 17th. The WBC Silver Belt has already been made by Mexican craftsmen and it looks very beautiful and prestigious.
This will be a very important title in the WBC in substitution of the Interim World Championship, which has lost credibility as it has been handled in a manner for which it was not created. claudevsq ( talk) 10:06, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello. During a review of lists promoted to featured status, this list has been identified as "at risk" of demotion. This means that there are some issues that could be fixed to ensure the list meets current featured list standards. If those issues are not fixed reasonably promptly (i.e. the next ten days), the list will be taken to WP:FLRC to be considered for demotion. Issues that need to be fixed, as a minimum, are as follows:
The Rambling Man ( talk) 17:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
My thoughts:
-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 22:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
It should be expanded. The footnote "The official rules and regulations of the WBA, IBF, and WBO all mention by name ..." can be incorporated into the lead. Any other ideas on what should be in there?-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 22:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Many featured articles ignore this MoS guideline (ex. all football club articles that use the Template:Football squad player).-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 22:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Okay, well please take that argument to the WP:MOS. Right now, the current use of flags contravenes the MOS which means it contravenes the criteria for what makes a featured list. It's very simple. The Rambling Man ( talk) 00:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
At Wikipedia:Featured_list_removal_candidates/List_of_current_world_boxing_champions/archive1 there was a suggestion to expand these sections with more about the formation of the organisations. It was also suggested that the sections could be eliminated and some of the material moved to the lead.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 20:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
It is clearly stated in the given references that the Nationality of Donaire is Filipino. This page follow the format of BoxRec.com where it shows the boxer's nationality by their place of birth. In fact Donaire is of Filipino descent. Donaire and his family only acquired US citizenship because they moved to US and became resident of CA, USA. Like other boxers Jean Pascal, Antonio Margarito, Giovanni Segura and Vic Darchinyan, this page put the flag of their place of birth under their names instead of their residence. Doughn ( talk • contribs) 08:40, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
The flag under Nonito Donaire in this page should be changed to Philippine flag not just for the fact that he was born in Bohol, Philppines but also because he has a Filipino blood. He only acquired permanent residency in the United States. The Ring has already updated its pound for pound list where Donaire's country was changed to Philippines instead of his residence in California, USA. The BoxRec.com, the reference that was used in this page, also use Philippine flag/Filipino for Donaire's nationality. Doughn ( talk • contribs) 10:33, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
The table is listing Wladimir Klitschko as IBF Unified champion. I've never seen the IBF use this. What is the source?-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 18:30, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
“ | No, he's unified champion, like all others who have got 2 titles. I know the WBA rankings... He'd be WBA Super champion if he had got only the WBA title... | ” |
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From this discussion (Super champion and Unified champion) at WikiProject Boxing there is consensus that the term Undisputed Champion should only be used if the boxer holds all the major belts. Since Wladimir Klitschko, Timothy Bradley, Juan Manuel Márquez and Nonito Donaire do not hold all the major belts I am removing this term from their entries in the table.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 22:36, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Brandon has both nationalities: US American and Mexican. However even when born in USA he enters the ring with the Mexican flag and is oficially listed as Mexican by the WBO as you can see here, so that is why his fag should be Mexican. http://wbanews.com/artman/publish/ratingRankings/WBA_Official_Ratings_as_of_August_2011.shtml Daalo194 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.225.184.116 ( talk) 00:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Rios failed to make the 135lb weight limit therefore was stripped from his WBA "regular" title. The fight will still go on, the title will remain vacant of Rios wins. If John Murray wins he claims it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.76.54.218 ( talk) 02:47, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
I'm going to add the Puerto Rican flag next to the US'. García, son of two native Puerto Ricans, has publicly identified as Puerto Rican. Before his fight with Erik Morales he stated that he would be representing both Puerto Rico and his native Philladelphia. Even before that, he said that he would be the "next great Puerto Rican boxer", which is sourced in his biography. I have no interest in removing the US' flag, just avoid removing the Puerto Rican flag as some IP users have been doing in his article and Morales'. El Alternativo ( talk) 05:25, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
In that case, is there a real reason to actually have falgs? Besides patriotsim and WP:FLAGCRUFT it seems better to try another approach since from the looks of it, Mexican-Americans have the same issue. El Alternativo ( talk) 21:15, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
WBA | WBC | IBF | WBO | The Ring |
Lamont Peterson Super champion American 30–1–1–0 (15) December 10, 2011 |
Danny García Puerto Rican-American 23–0–0–0 (14) March 24, 2012 |
Lamont Peterson American 30–1–1–0 (15) December 10, 2011 |
Timothy Bradley American 28–0–0–1 (12) April 4, 2009 |
vacant |
Marcos René Maidana Argentinian 31–3–0–0 (28) July 23, 2011 |
José Cuervo Mexican-American 8–0–0 (0) July 26, 2011 | |||
Johan Pérez Interim champion Venezuelan 15–0–1–1 (12) December 10, 2011 |
Maybe the table above can serve as a model? It is not as pretty, but listing them this way avoids confusion, conflict and is more practical. "Puerto Rico", "Mexico" or "United States" are countries, not nationalities. Then there is the fact that Boxrec is also user edited, which in Wikipedia are generally regardded as bad sources, such as the IMDB being allowed al a link, but not a reference. El Alternativo ( talk) 21:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
No problem? I will do the change if there isn't. El Alternativo ( talk) 07:51, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Will anybody be able to find fair use pictures of the following:
How exactly are these judged? I expected the silver champions to be considered similar to interim champions, given that they are often promoted to first contender after winning it, but I do not see them listed here at all. The belt also reads "world champion", which also seems to support some sort of interim status. 24.139.224.111 ( talk) 00:47, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
As per an ongoing, unproductive and one-sided discussion about how boxers with international names should be presented in this article, I'd like some others' opinions on how we should go about it, before I seek a third opinion (however that's supposed to work..)
The list doesn't include the Diamond Champions. Should we start listing them?-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 02:22, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Why not expand the list of federations, adding the Champions version IBO? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.222.219.167 ( talk) 23:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
-Because the IBO is a Minor title this for all 4 Major title plus Ring Magazine ( WorldSeriesOfPoker500 ( talk) 01:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC))
You appear to be getting information from the media. The same media who sends out writers to cover boxing once in a blue moon. Many of the writers do not even know the difference between the mandatory 8 count that every downed boxer gets and a standing 8 count. Then standing 8 count is almost never used anywhere anymore. The IBO should be counted. The don't have multiple champions like the WBA who, when one of their champs wins another belt, calls them a SUPER CHAMPION and has another title bout in the same weight class for that same title. Thus having two champions of the same weight class only for the extra cash of the sanctioning fees. The IBO uses PC rankings and is run out of the USA vs. the W groups that are in Mexico, South America and Puerto Rico. All who are allowed to do as they please. The IBO has been around since the mid 90's and has some good champions. None of the groups may be considered great or ideal for boxing, but, The IBO and the IBF are clearly better this past 5 years becasue they have the U.S. state officials looking over them and the ABC. So, bottom line the IBO is a main title. Just because the WBA and WBC were started earlier does not make them more important. The WBO willing to deal with promoters snuck into the action but are very similar to the BC and BA. Again the IBO and IBF are actually the better of the five. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.36.176.138 ( talk) 00:19, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Would anybody be interested in helping me to get the FL-status for this list? We had the "Featured Article" status until a few years ago, but then, it was revoked. Meanwhile, we have done about everything, except putting in a photo or two. But for FL-status, it should be enough... What do you think? claudevsq ( talk) 18:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Please stop the edit war. Discuss the issue here and try to reach a consensus.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 18:43, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Look, I'm trying to make this as accurate as possible and I am sure it was for the regular title; I was there. He was installed as full WBO lightweight champion on January 26 when Marquez was stripped. I'll try find a few newspaper articles from last year but in the meantime, let's leave it as the actual date that he became WBO lightweight champion. Wowsssowss ( talk) 04:48, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
HERE'S THE OFFICIAL WBO PROOF THAT MARQUEZ WAS STILL THEIR LIGHTWEIGHT SUPER CHAMPION ON MARCH 1st, 2012:
http://www.wboboxing.com/here-is-our-february-2012-rankings-2/
As for Burns missing the words "Interim" on these corrected February rankings which came out March 1st, 2012, we all know that, just like Klitschko, Márquez and Narváez for the moment, the WBO has NEVER, EVER had a "Super" champion and a "regular" champion at the same time. If Márquez was still the champ, Burns was the interim champ, no matter if Márquez was Super or not Super. WBA yes, but WBO NEVER ONCE in their history. Lots of newspapers reported that Márquez was stripped on January 26, but that was not the case as you can finally see now officially from the WBO's original rankings... WBA stripped him, yes, but WBO did way later, a month or two later... claudevsq ( talk) 14:09, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I'll admit it; perhaps I had it wrong but one thing we can all agree on is that Burns' fight against Moses on March 10 was DEFINITELY not for the interim title and was DEFINITELY for the regular title. With this in mind, why have you changed Burns' date of installation as WBO lightweight champion to March 10? We know it wasn't on March 10 and, as suggested by the source you just left, it has to be between the 1st and 10th of March. Why don't you speak to Miss Diana Melendez again and ask her when Burns was installed as full WBO lightweight champion? Wowsssowss ( talk) 00:02, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Actually, they are. This article lists information about current world champions such as name, nationality and date of winning their championship(s). I'll stress that last point; date of winning the championship (or in this case, installment as full champion), not when "claudevsq" thinks or prefers but the date of winning the championship. That's also quite convenient how you'll try to speak to her when you "have the time" and that you "doubt she'll remember". N.B.: You, by conclusion of what you have just written, are wrong so nah. I never once said I was civilised so I implore, no, directly ask, you to point out where I said I was civilised. Wowsssowss ( talk) 00:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Absolutely spiffing! Also, you aren't right either pal, so less of your shite. We'll see who's wrong when this bird gets back to you. Wowsssowss ( talk) 21:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC) Actually, I never said I wasn't civilised, I just said I didn't say I was civilised so you're wrong again. Wowsssowss ( talk) 21:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
For the others, here the original answer from Miss Diana Meléndez, WBO executive:
Mr. Vesque:
Ricky Burns became full champion on April 12, 2012.
Diana Melendez
So... are you happy now? claudevsq ( talk) 16:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
To be completely honest, I don't know if that's actually a WBO official. How do I know you haven't made up some e-mail address and sent it to yourself? Nonetheless, for the sake of no longer possessing the will to amend incorrect articles, I shall leave it be. I hope you're happy with an incorrect article. Wowsssowss ( talk) 00:38, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
There was debate a while back about if the Ring title should be included in this list and a 'wait and see' attitude seemed to be the agreed upon course of action (see this discussion). Now that the Ring has changed its criteria, that criteria and the title itself has lost substantial credibility. [5] [6] [7] In essence, the fears from the previous conversation seem to have come true (i.e., the title has been mismanaged and no longer has credibility). I think its time the Ring title be removed from the list and the big four recognized by the International Boxing Hall of Fame be the only titles listed. What do people think?-- RonSigPi ( talk) 03:47, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Since this issue never came close to being resolved earlier in the year, I took the initiative and tried my luck again this week to see if my edits would stick. Predictably, that proved futile. Unless other users would like to lend a helping hand in advising either myself or User:Claudevsq on how to resolve this without edit warring, I will gladly keep on changing the spelling of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. (comma and period included, per the article itself and standard U.S. naming conventions) and Sergio Martínez (middle name no longer included) to reflect that of their respective articles. Beyond claiming that he "works" for the WBO ("I'm updating this list for over 5 years now, day-in and day-out, am in regular contact with the WBO"), User:Claudevsq should realise that such claims do not fly here and that despite being a primary contributor, he is effectively claiming ownership of this article by not allowing others' edits to remain. Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 15:01, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
User:Claudevsq, please start discussing your reverts, or I'm afraid your ability to edit this and other pages will become seriously limited. The Rambling Man ( talk) 16:51, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Beibut Shumenov: Became regular champion on January 29, 2010, was elevated to Super on October 8, 2013. Chris John: Became interim champion on September 26, 2003, defended (vacant?) regular title on June 4, 2004, defended Super title September 19, 2009 for first time. Guillermo Rigondeaux: Won interim title on November 13, 2010, won regular title on January 20, 2011, became unified champion on April 13, 2013. Anselmo Moreno: Won regular title on May 31, 2008, defended Super title first on June 17, 2011. claudevsq ( talk) 14:06, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Correct. But after all, we still have the "List of WBA world champions", where somebody can put all the different dates deemed important. claudevsq ( talk) 13:34, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I deleted the part that the WBO title is not recognised. The 2 links are very out of date. The BBC now recognises the WBO title. The sports illustrated link is from 1998! It is a well known fact that the WBO is held in the same esteem as the other 3 titles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.116.2 ( talk) 18:29, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
I have redone an edit I made a couple of days ago. I was just making a simple formatting change to show Guillermo Rigondeaux listed separately under the "WBO" and "The Ring" columns in the "Super bantamweight" weight class. The same person is listed as champion in adjoining columns in a couple of other weight classes (see the entries for Donnie Nietes under the "WBO" and "The Ring" columns in the "Light flyweight" category, for example). It seemed clearer to me to have the champion listed directly below the corresponding titles (like the Donnie Nietes listings). It seems like it could potentially get confusing if a single person ends up winning multiple championships (such as the "WBC," "IBF," "WBO" and "The Ring" columns) and is only listed once.
I personally wouldn't be too concerned if we went with a single listing spanning multiple columns. However, I think we should be consistent whenever this occurs.
Please let me know if there are any issues with this... I certainly don't want to get in a war of edits if other folks think we should format the listings differently. Thanks. ColdGrayLight ( talk) 02:53, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Don't worry, it's a long time ago since I insisted on anything concerning this list... ;-) By the way, the difference between Nietes and Rigondeaux is the date... Rigo won both the WBO and Ring Titles on the same date. Back when Takayama both held the IBF and WBO titles at mini flyweight for the second time, he also spanned two columns. But that's OK. claudevsq ( talk) 12:29, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Shouldn't the flag used be the Irish tricolor as he self identifies as Irish?-- Donniediamond ( talk) 11:17, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Hey there are troll in the water. How and where to report this? lots of fake champions.
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Many of the people listed as lineal champions are no longer lineal champions. All but three of the weight divisions are vacant according to tbrb.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theazor99 ( talk • contribs) 03:59, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
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I was looking at the WBA rankings page, and they list that the date that Yunier Dorticos became "regular champion" is 6-15-17. According to the same page, Miguel Flores remained WBA "interim champion" after his bout against Guillermo Rigondeaux was changed to a no decision. Also the Thammanoon Ninyomtrong is listed, by boxrec.com, as having a record consisting of 16 wins, no losses and no draws. Morning Dove ( talk) 22:52, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
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Edit the current Junior Welterweight belt holders and records. The Grammar Police ( talk) 04:02, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Under list of current champions, at Light Middleweight, it has Erislandy Lara. It says he's from Cuba and even has the Cuban flag. Lara is American. He defected from Cuba, his nickname is "The American Dream", and Boxrec lists him as American. Boxrec is one, if not the best boxing site around. I can't edit with my phone anymore. Can someone fix it please Myth420 ( talk) 13:04, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
I think something along the lines of this would be a very welcome addition to this list.
WBA | WBC | IBF | WBO | The Ring | |
Anthony Joshua Super champion United Kingdom 19–0–0–0 (19) April 29, 2017 0 defenses |
Deontay Wilder United States 38–0–0–0 (37) January 17, 2015 5 defenses |
Anthony Joshua United Kingdom 19–0–0–0 (19) April 9, 2016 3 defenses |
Joseph Parker New Zealand 23–0–0–0 (18) December 10, 2016 1 defense |
Tyson Fury United Kingdom 25–0–0–0 (18) November 28, 2015 0 defenses |
vacant |
What do you all think? Fpwlada ( talk) 15:55, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Under Anthony Joshua's name it says he is the "Super Champion". Keith Thurman and Terrence Crawford are in the same situation as Joshua, but they do not have the "Super Champion" under their names. Please either remove the "Super Champion" from Joshua or add it to other "Super Champions". I suggest this just for consistency on the list.
Also, Chayaphon Moonsri is now 48-0 according to boxrec.com
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I have extended protection as there appears to be no consensus. Please let me know when said impasse has ended, or request unprotection at WP:RFPP. Recommend some form of dispute resolution be undertaken. Cheers, Dlohcierekim ( talk) 18:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Full protection! Please do civilly discuss content of this article. Please comport yourselves in a civil manner. Dlohcierekim ( talk) 18:22, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
How is it you communicate with other people? Your language is very offensive and not an a civil level. Please refrain from using that type af language. It is not beneficial at all.
Why cant you understand that WBA will NEVER officially retire the term Super Champion, just like the WBO list their champions as super champions. It is a honorary title only.
It makes no sense to use it when there is only 1 champion in the division. You are only cunfussing people. You should know better as a boxing fan.
And again. Please watch your language and how to speak to people.
Is this guy for real? People like you makes others editors wanna stop being on wikipedia. You think this is your very own Encyclopedia, which it is not. You are not the boss.
And get your facts straight. Linares was never a Super champion, there the Super title from the lightweight was NEVER abolished.
The WBA Super title is aswell honorary.
http://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-elevated-to-wba-super-champion#.Wd6S42i0NPY
http://www.boxingscene.com/jason-sosa-vacates-wba-title-ahead-lomachenko-title-shot--113651
I just did that
Linares was never a Super champion, there the Super title from the lightweight was NEVER abolished.
The WBA Super title is aswell honorary.
http://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-elevated-to-wba-super-champion#.Wd6S42i0NPY
http://www.boxingscene.com/jason-sosa-vacates-wba-title-ahead-lomachenko-title-shot--113651
David-golota ( talk) 23:42, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
You should really watch your langauge. You the need for calling names and using negative terms about other persons. You wont go far in this world with the level of arrogance you have.
Again, this is NOT your own article nor is this your personal website. So dont act like it is.
You dont seem to answer my question. What about Crawford? He was named the super champion despite the WBA saying there will NOT be named any more champions in that divison. Is that not a honorary title then? http://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-elevated-to-wba-super-champion
And the WBA hasnt announced anything. Get your facts straight. http://www.boxingscene.com/team-oquendo-ustinov-charr-eliminator-not-wba-belt--121346
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Why dont you adress my points which I back up with facts. The WBA are making the Super Title honorary. You dont seem to adress that at all. Oh an yeah, you didnt adress your WBA heavyweight title fight either. You said the WBA had made a fight for the WBA title, which I pointed out to you they had not.
Again, read the links I have adressed from the WBA official website. Crawford holds a super title, but it is honorary only. And dont refer to me as buddy or other names. Im not your buddy, friend or any of that. Please keep any personal attack away from this discussion. 19:03, 13 October 2017 (UTC) David-golota ( talk)
My tone? Watch your own tone. Your level of arrogance is beyond what I ever thought anybody could have on this site.
You refuse to read the links from WBA official website because of my tone?
I never called you any names nor have I used offensive word. The same can not be said about you. So you should watch your own tone.
Dont get smart with me. We both know that when someone is calling another person while their having an argument it is not ment in a positive or friendly way.
So dont even bother to try to smooth it. Stop that.
I have official sources from the WBA which clearly states that Crawford is elevated to Super champion.
Since you refuse to check my sources, I will give it to you:
Considering Crawford’s achievement, his solidity as Champion at 140 pounds, which make him the best fighter of his weight class, and covered by Article C18 of the WBA Rules, which allows to elevate a boxer to Super Champion under special circumstances, the Championships Committee took the decision to grant this recognition to the American boxer. However, this does not mean that an Interim or Regular Super Lightweight title will be created. The WBA and the Championships Committee maintain their policy of having only one champion per category.
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I'm inclined to side with Mac Dreamstate here. It seems that the WBA still has "super" and "regular" champions (in some divisions, at least for heavyweight as links demonstrate), so we should use that terminology. It's obviously stupid by the WBA but that's how it is. HampsteadLord ( talk) 19:28, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
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Dmitry Bivol now WBA full champion at light heavyweight - http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-40004979-4 Fpwlada ( talk) 03:51, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi all, do we think that the International Boxing Organization should be included in this article? Their champions include Gennady Golovkin, Anthony Joshua and Chris Eubank Jr.. I believe that this is the only current worldwide organisation that is not on this page. Cheers -- Baileybobfam ( talk) 21:04, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
I don't think the IBO titles have enough recognition to be added to this list.-- SaskatchewanSenator ( talk) 00:05, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
I disagree, they have had some seriously impressive champions in years gone bye. Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko, Floyd Mayweather, Neseem Hamed, Ricky Hatton and Manny Pacquiao just to name a few.-- Baileybobfam ( talk) 14:47, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Erdei has officially vacated today, just like expected! See here: http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24848 claudevsq ( talk) 16:38, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I just called the WBO, believe it or not, their offices were robbed; that's probably why I couldn't reach them yesterday. They told me to try again on monday... For those who don't wanna believe: Tel. +1 787 765-4444. claudevsq ( talk) 16:09, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
"Hi Claude:
He is going to go into the ring with holding his champion title. However, once in the ring, he loses his title and is dependent on winning the new title.
Best,
Doris Companys" claudevsq ( talk) 00:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
They have Cuba as his flag and nationality. I mentioned this before and someone changed it to American, now it's back to Cuba. Lara defected from Cuba. Defecting is basically renouncing your nationality. He lives in America, his nickname is The American Dream, and Boxrec (one of the most reputable boxing sites out there) has him listed as American. Am I wrong here? Should he not be listed as American? Myth420 ( talk) 08:46, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
Isn't Demetrius Andrade the WBA Regular Champion. Castano is the Interim Champion, correct? I'm pretty sure, but could be wrong Myth420 ( talk) 04:43, 22 April 2018 (UTC)