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Note that the Borger number given is from Borger 1981. Borger 2003 uses a completely different numbering scheme, including 907 signs. This list should, in the long term, be expanded to list all Borger 2003 signs and give a concordance of Borger 1981 to Borger 2003. dab (ᛏ) 17:25, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be useful to augment (or replace) the unicode code point column with the actual characters in the spirit of "U+12109" -> "U+12109 𒄉" (with cuneiform template)? This could be done programmatically in some ten minutes, but since I don't want to be reverted, I wait for feedback here. Is there a preference to numerical character references, or should I use utf-8 encoded characters?
Why does adding "sortable" to the table classes not make them sortable? It would be extremely helpful to be able to look up by OB pronunciation. -- Aquatiki ( talk) 17:14, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
The Unicode names are really pertinent, because they ar only describing the composition of the sign. My problem were the sign names: DUN3 with gunû is the average sign for Shekel (giĝ4, conventionally GIN2), cf. PSD: sign-names D "DUN3@g" (g=gunû) versus tun3(ax), DUN3 alone, without gunation: 𒂅.
The sign MIR=DUN3 gunû gunû, aga/niĝir: "crown", "tiara" [1] has no reading gin2, see also Volk, Sumerian Reader, page 73 "giĝ4", "aga3" versus page 63 "niĝir". The signs are distinguished also by Picker Old-Babylonian, see "GÍN=DÙNgunu=𒂆" and "MIR (DÙNgunugunu) 𒂇" -- Edfyr ( talk) 14:21, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
See my comment on Talk:Cuneiform_script#Progress_on_cuneiform_sign_images ... AnonMoos 14:59, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
...in addition to inclusion of the images, the unicode glyphs need to have a separate column from their U+ numbering and the glyphs need to be wrapped with {{
linktext}} tags or [[:wikt:~|~]]
links to their Wiktionary entries. —
LlywelynII
22:05, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
The headers for all but the first table are:
However, the first table differs on the third- and second-to-last headers:
Is this just an oversight?
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02:30, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
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The shapes shown here look more like UR III than like Neo-Assyrian (cf. here, but the introductory paragraphs in the article seem to be claiming the opposite.-- 79.100.144.23 ( talk) 02:02, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
When Dr. Rykle Borger originally built his comparative table, which was adapted to this Wikipedia entry, Cuneiform block wasn't completed yet. Since then, several signs were added, and a entire new block (Early Dynastic Cuneiform) was created. Some signs that appear lacking in his table gained equivalent unicode characters, but the table was not updated to include them. Here they are:
67 | U+1237F | KA TIMES ASH3
156 | U+1238D | MUSH3 TIMES ZA
224 | U+12370 | AB TIMES NUN
243 | U+12376 | DUB TIMES SHE
254 | U+1219A | KAM2
265 | U+12290 & U+1219A | RAB & KAM2
269 | U+12217 & U+1219A | LUGAL & KAM2
278 | U+12377 | EZEN TIMES GUD
282 | U+12378 | EZEN TIMES SHE
334 | U+1252A | NINDA2 TIMES U
335 | U+1252B | NINDA2 TIMES U PLUS U
355 | U+1253A | TUM TIMES GAN2 TENU
385 | NA4 (NI.UD) | U+1238E | NA4
386 | DÀG (NI.ERIM) | U+12374 | DAG3
408 | 257 | U+1237A | GA2 TIMES ASH2
436 | U+1224C & U+12111 | NI PLUS GISH
439 | U+12056 & U+121A8 | DAG PLUS KISIM5
518 | U+12389 | LU2 SHESHIG TIMES BAD
520 | U+1251E | LU2 TIMES TAK4
524 | U+1238B | LU2 TIMES SHU
532 | U+1238A | LU2 TIMES ESH2 PLUS LAL
615 | U+1226D & U+12016 | NUNUZ PLUS AB2
616 | U+1226D & U+121A8 | NUNUZ PLUS KISIM5
640 | U+1212D & U+12041 | HI PLUS BAD
831 | U+1222B & U+1230D | MIN & U U U
886 | U+12390 | NIN9
887 | U+1238F | NIN
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Note that the Borger number given is from Borger 1981. Borger 2003 uses a completely different numbering scheme, including 907 signs. This list should, in the long term, be expanded to list all Borger 2003 signs and give a concordance of Borger 1981 to Borger 2003. dab (ᛏ) 17:25, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be useful to augment (or replace) the unicode code point column with the actual characters in the spirit of "U+12109" -> "U+12109 𒄉" (with cuneiform template)? This could be done programmatically in some ten minutes, but since I don't want to be reverted, I wait for feedback here. Is there a preference to numerical character references, or should I use utf-8 encoded characters?
Why does adding "sortable" to the table classes not make them sortable? It would be extremely helpful to be able to look up by OB pronunciation. -- Aquatiki ( talk) 17:14, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
The Unicode names are really pertinent, because they ar only describing the composition of the sign. My problem were the sign names: DUN3 with gunû is the average sign for Shekel (giĝ4, conventionally GIN2), cf. PSD: sign-names D "DUN3@g" (g=gunû) versus tun3(ax), DUN3 alone, without gunation: 𒂅.
The sign MIR=DUN3 gunû gunû, aga/niĝir: "crown", "tiara" [1] has no reading gin2, see also Volk, Sumerian Reader, page 73 "giĝ4", "aga3" versus page 63 "niĝir". The signs are distinguished also by Picker Old-Babylonian, see "GÍN=DÙNgunu=𒂆" and "MIR (DÙNgunugunu) 𒂇" -- Edfyr ( talk) 14:21, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
See my comment on Talk:Cuneiform_script#Progress_on_cuneiform_sign_images ... AnonMoos 14:59, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
...in addition to inclusion of the images, the unicode glyphs need to have a separate column from their U+ numbering and the glyphs need to be wrapped with {{
linktext}} tags or [[:wikt:~|~]]
links to their Wiktionary entries. —
LlywelynII
22:05, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
The headers for all but the first table are:
However, the first table differs on the third- and second-to-last headers:
Is this just an oversight?
babbage (
talk)
02:30, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
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The shapes shown here look more like UR III than like Neo-Assyrian (cf. here, but the introductory paragraphs in the article seem to be claiming the opposite.-- 79.100.144.23 ( talk) 02:02, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
When Dr. Rykle Borger originally built his comparative table, which was adapted to this Wikipedia entry, Cuneiform block wasn't completed yet. Since then, several signs were added, and a entire new block (Early Dynastic Cuneiform) was created. Some signs that appear lacking in his table gained equivalent unicode characters, but the table was not updated to include them. Here they are:
67 | U+1237F | KA TIMES ASH3
156 | U+1238D | MUSH3 TIMES ZA
224 | U+12370 | AB TIMES NUN
243 | U+12376 | DUB TIMES SHE
254 | U+1219A | KAM2
265 | U+12290 & U+1219A | RAB & KAM2
269 | U+12217 & U+1219A | LUGAL & KAM2
278 | U+12377 | EZEN TIMES GUD
282 | U+12378 | EZEN TIMES SHE
334 | U+1252A | NINDA2 TIMES U
335 | U+1252B | NINDA2 TIMES U PLUS U
355 | U+1253A | TUM TIMES GAN2 TENU
385 | NA4 (NI.UD) | U+1238E | NA4
386 | DÀG (NI.ERIM) | U+12374 | DAG3
408 | 257 | U+1237A | GA2 TIMES ASH2
436 | U+1224C & U+12111 | NI PLUS GISH
439 | U+12056 & U+121A8 | DAG PLUS KISIM5
518 | U+12389 | LU2 SHESHIG TIMES BAD
520 | U+1251E | LU2 TIMES TAK4
524 | U+1238B | LU2 TIMES SHU
532 | U+1238A | LU2 TIMES ESH2 PLUS LAL
615 | U+1226D & U+12016 | NUNUZ PLUS AB2
616 | U+1226D & U+121A8 | NUNUZ PLUS KISIM5
640 | U+1212D & U+12041 | HI PLUS BAD
831 | U+1222B & U+1230D | MIN & U U U
886 | U+12390 | NIN9
887 | U+1238F | NIN