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As noted below, Texas, Alaska, California and N. Dakota are hardly countries. In addition US Offshore should counted with the US total. I find two very different total US numbers here:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2173rank.html (US = 9,688,000 barrels/day)
and here
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_crd_crpdn_adc_mbblpd_a.htm (US = 5,694,000 barrels/day)
The first is probably too high. The second too low (e.g. does not contain natural gas liquids).
Figure 5 here
http://ourfiniteworld.com/2012/04/09/what-the-new-2011-eia-oil-supply-data-shows/
does seem to show that one goes from a US crude oil production of 6+ mbd to 10+ mbd through the addition of NGPLs, Other Liquids, and Processing Gain.
Page 24 of the primary citation for the US (FN3) actually lists us production in the 8,000,000 barrels/day range. (
http://omrpublic.iea.org/omrarchive/12may11sup.pdf). Also the department of energy's total (including all liquids) puts US production in the 10,000,000 barrels/day range (
http://www.eia.gov/countries/index.cfm?view=production). I can't figure out where the figure for the US came from, but it is very wrong. — Preceding
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It's not wrong, not in early 2013. It is however outaded. The US now produces 12.1 million blls of oil, not crude oil mind you, but oil. This includes synthetics and converted materials such as liquid gases. — Preceding
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A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries. Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 12:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Chart of exports and production of oil by nation has been merged here, i want to discuss adding list of exports and imports as well as production to this page based on the EIA figures at http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/country/index.cfm --neon white talk 18:24, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
This article about the list of oil production by countries is a complete sham of facts and makes absolutely no sense. Opec, the Arab League and European Union are not countries. They each are a collection of countries. OPEC includes Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Syria, Jordan, etc. and also including Venazula a South American country, definitely not an Arab country. The Arab League also is a collection of Arab countries, but not all Arab countries belong.
Also, Texas, California, North Dakota and others are states of the United States not seperate countries. Please change these things and correct your mistakes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbyr55 ( talk • contribs) 19:06, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Are we talking about conventional crude oil, or do we count tar sands, oil shale, natural gas liquids, biofuels, and other non-conventional sources of oil?
It says 'crude from drilling', but that's not quite precise enough for my liking. Can we be as specific as possible about what we do include, and what's not included?
My reasoning is that non-conventional sources of petroleum energy are compose a growing percentage of total "oil" produced. In Canada, for example, roughly 25% of all 'oil' production is from the tar sands of Alberta, producing so-called syncrude, not conventional crude. Biofuels, too are growing in their production to significant levels. Therefore, it is pertinent to question the type of oil being produced. — fudoreaper ( talk) 06:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Also, is refined oil included? I'm pretty sure Singapore, for example, does not have oil, though they import crude for refining and sell to ships. —Már K — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.37.107.131 ( talk) 15:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
The CIA source has been updated [1]. The data need to be updated accordingly. Bcs09 ( talk) 13:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
someone has some explaining to do or elses provide the other source being used. Grmike ( talk) 19:36, 8 August 2010 (UTC)grmike
Since this is a list of production by individual country, I suggest removing the European Union numbers and the World numbers. I realize that this list is pretty much copy and paste from CIA factbook and the EU is in the list, but it is not an individual country. The information could be included outside the actual list for comparison purposes. Something like "Worldwide oil production is estimated at..." and "All oil producing countries in the EU produce an estimated total of..." That's just my humble opinion though. -- Brendanmccabe ( talk) 15:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Why is the Arab League still there? It isn't a country. — Preceding
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What is the reasoning behind leaving China out of the charts in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.215.140 ( talk) 02:20, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Please can someone add an 'is opec member' column to that production table? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.240.128.75 ( talk) 12:15, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Arkansas needs to be highlighted on the map, its ranked between 77-78. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.238.58.249 ( talk) 12:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Why is Iran out of order (as of 8/15 4:31PM)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.209.159.19 ( talk) 20:32, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
The numbers given in this are really really off. Regardless of if we are examining raw crude output or all liquids output (the introduction suggests the latter) the entries are all completely wrong. Also, the previous citation given for Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the US ( http://omrpublic.iea.org/omrarchive/12may11sup.pdf) does not contain the figures given. In fact, none of the citations seem to.
Because I can't figure out where these very wrong numbers come from, I am wondering if this is being trolled or worse still manipulated for some objective?
-- Sjk81 ( talk) 14:00, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
I found the culprit. Someone completely muddled the numbers two weeks ago. I'm undoing back to the most reasonable, if still not accurate, figures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjk81 ( talk • contribs) 14:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
I followed edits by an IP to here, they added Scotland. It was removed, however I think they have a point, the article is "List of countries by oil production", and states "list of countries by oil production mostly based on CIA World Factbook data", yet this does not list US states independent of the country. So why are various states that dont meet the criteria being listed? Murry1975 ( talk) 15:54, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Scotland produces around 90% of the oil production which is attributed to the United Kingdom (90% of the oil attributed to the UK is produced in Scottish adjacent waters which are under the jurisdiction of Scots Law and therefore "Scottish waters"). Every single attempt to include this fact on this article is instantly deleted with weasel comments regarding Scotland not being a sovereign country etc.
However, the list also contains: 21 States of the United States of America (Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Louisiana, Wyoming, Kansas, Colorado, Utah, Montana, Mississippi, Illinois, Michigan, Arkansas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Nebraska, Kentucky, Florida, Indiana, West Virginia, South Dakota); 1 territory of the United States of America (Commonwealth of Puerto Rico) and 1 constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Aruba). So 23 other non sovereign states are included on this list due to the oil produced within their territory, but Scotland is not. What is the motivation and justification for this inconsistency? What is it about Scotland that means that country is subject to inconsistent treatment in regards to this article? If the precise figures on the amount of oil produced in Scotland are added to the article then will Scotland be able to remain on the list and no longer be arbitrarily deleted from it for baseless reasons? Either Scotland and all the 23 other countries and territories mentioned above are not allowed to feature on this list, or Scotland features on the list until all the 23 others are removed. I would say either of those two options are fair. Anything else is unfair, inconsistent, hypocritical and biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.76.48.95 ( talk) 11:43, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
9 | Venezuela | 3,023,000 | 4.74% | 2013 est. |
5 | China | 4,073,000 | 4.56% | 2013 est. |
21 | Indonesia | 982,900 | 1.66% | 2013 est. |
18 | Qatar | 1,631,000 | 1.44% | 2013 est. |
23 | India | 897,300 | 1.04% | 2013 est. |
22 | Colombia | 1,011,992 | 0.97% | 2013 est. |
It seems to be wrong for me. -- Ruwolf ( talk) 03:43, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Seems to handle the numbers as strings. 217.42.56.54 ( talk) 18:20, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/15/us-oil-pira-idUSL1N0I51IX20131015 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-15/u-s-becomes-world-s-top-oil-producer-in-2013-pira-says.html http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/The-US-Passes-Saudi-Arabia-to-become-the-Worlds-Largest-Oil-Producer.html http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s-becomes-worlds-largest-oil-producer-passing-russia-and-saudi-arabia/
U.S. apparently #1 in crude oil production, exclusive of biofuels: https://www.spe.org/en/jpt/jpt-article-detail/?art=4621 & https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/12/investing/us-oil-production-russia-saudi-arabia/index.html Kdammers ( talk) 22:13, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Russia: 10,550,000 barrels / day.
Saudi Arabia: 9,850,000 b/pd. Source:
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To stop the edit wars over the production rates and rankings, we need to have a consensus on just what we are measuring here. Different sources are reporting different classes of liquid fuels.
Biofuels - the USEIA web page on International Energy Statistics, under "Total Oil Supply", includes "other liquids", which, according to the Notes section, includes ethanol, biodiesel, and liquid fuels manufactured from coal and oil shale. The CIA World Factbook appears to be taken from this US EIA table. By including biofuels, the US is put in the #1 position. If we deduct the 1.2 million barrels/day of biofuels (listed by the USEIA in another table), the US falls to second place behind Saudi Arabia, but ahead of Russia. I myself believe that most people reading this article assume that "oil" here means fossil-fuel oil, and not biofuels, and the inclusion of biofuels causes only confusion. For that reason, I believe that we should not be using either the CIA World Factbook or the USEIA table of "Total Oil Production."
Refinery processing gain - This is the increase in volume during refining. It is included in the USEIA web page on International Energy Statistics, under "Total Oil Supply", as well as in the CIA World Factbook apparently based on the USEIA "Total Oil Supply" table. If the US imports crude oil for refining, the refinery processing gain presumably is credited to the US rather than the country which produced the petroleum. This is why Singapore, which has no oil or gas wells, but does have refineries, is credited with production on the CIA Factbook and EIA "Total Oil Supply" tables. This is not what people commonly think of as "oil production", and so I believe that it does not belong in this article.
Natural Gas Plant Liquids - These are light liquid hydrocarbons that are extracted from natural gas at gas processing plants prior to delivering the gas to consumers. Most sources do not report these data. The USEIA table "Total Oil Production" includes them, as does the CIA World Factbook taken from the USEIA "Total Oil Supply" data. If we include NGLs, the top three producers in order are: Saudi Arabia, United States, and Russia. If we leave out NGLs, the ranking is: Russia, Saudi Arabia, United States. My own opinion is that because NGLs are not usually reported, we should leave them out.
Crude Oil and Condensate - These are the hydrocarbons that separate out as liquids at the wellhead. Because these are the most easily measurable and most commonly reported, I believe that this is the best measure to include in this article. Sources can be either the OPEC statistical bulletin, or the USEIA website under "Crude oil and lease condensate"; the two sources differ only slightly in their numbers (with one exception, see below), and either source would be good. The top three producers(in order) for this category are: Russia, Saudi Arabia, United States.
Canadian Oil Sands - The OPEC statistics exclude petroleum from Canadian oil sands, presumably because the oil is mined rather than produced from a well. The US EIA statistics include Canadian oil sands. If we include mined oil sands, Canada is the #5 crude oil producer in the world; if not, Canada drops to #15.
If we can have a consensus on which categories to include, we can stop the quibbling and give readers a clear article with consistent numbers. What does everyone think? Plazak ( talk) 13:49, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
I note the discussion above and the concerns about the sources of the information indicating that the US was the top producer in the first quarter of 2014. However, it is a serious act of omission to display information that is in all probability no longer accurate without at least a caveat before the chart noting that 2014 figures, when available, will likely show a different ranking. Tetsuo ( talk) 04:53, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
I see that the first two show 2006 data. Another shows 2009. Various paragraphs refer to 2009 and 2012. Tetsuo ( talk) 05:01, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
I see that someone has redone the list to reflect the US EIA's list for "Petroleum and other Liquids". Unfortunately, the casual reader may take the title ("oil production") at face value, and not realize that this EIA list also includes biofuels and refinery gain. Most people would not consider biofuels such as ethanol to be "oil". Also, most would not count refinery gain (the increase in volume in converting crude oil to refined products) to count as "oil production". Because this ranking includes refinery gain, we find here such non-petroleum producing nations as South Korea (#53), Singapore (#78), U.S. Virgin Islands (#82), Switzerland (#99), and Hong Kong (#118).
My own opinion is that this article should either use the EIA list: Crude oil and lease condensate, or rename this article "Oil and other liquid fuels production" in the interest of accuracy. In the meantime, perhaps we should start another article: "List of countries by crude oil production", to accurately list countries without the misleading additions of biofuels and refinery gain. Thoughts? Plazak ( talk) 18:36, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Plazak: This is finally updated here, with 2016 numbers and careful explanatory text. I hope it helps stabilize the endless stream of chaotic edits. I'll try to check the page more frequently. — Patrug ( talk) 08:08, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Some of the table entries are highlighted in green but it doesn't say why anywhere, anyone know? 184.161.106.203 ( talk) 10:59, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Strangely enough, Ecuador is missing from the list! That must be a mistake (or a troll). Ecuador is an OPEC member and just cannot be absent, regardless of how much it produces. And as shown in List_of_countries_by_oil_production, it should figure somewhere in place 37-38, between Gabon and Peru. Can somebody fix that?! Thanks! Ilyacadiz ( talk) 08:49, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps almost as strange, Oman is missing from the list. Though Oman is not an OPEC member, according to the Wikipedia article Economy of Oman, it still produces oil. Here's a quote from the article: "By mid-2000, production had climbed to more than 900,000 b/d where they remain." If true, this would place it right above Azerbaijan, ranking it at #20. Emerald Evergreen 20:39, 13 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisa Beck ( talk • contribs)
Why does Indonesia have a unique color on one of its bars in the graph? I guess this is a coding error, but maybe not? Kdammers ( talk) 04:41, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
According to EIA frequently asked questions, "What countries are the top producers and consumers of oil," the #1 is United States for 2016.
See: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barntowood ( talk • contribs) 21:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Well, title says it all. Alot has changed since the graph which is from back in 2016. So... someone should probably update the list of countries by petroleum production. >_> 191.89.109.121 ( talk) 11:44, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Natural gas must be diferentiated from the oil production, or the graphic must be renamed as fossil fuels,... -- 46.128.247.109 ( talk) 20:07, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
There is no number 30 on the list.-- Bornsommer ( talk) 11:24, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Where does the USA output of 12m barrels per day come from? Neither of the sources say this. EIA say 10.962m while Expressnews say 11.3m. Are we rounding? If so, rounding up to the nearest million, or just adding an extra million on for some reason before rounding up? Why not just round to the closest million as it's more accurate? Is this table ever going to be devoid of manipulation? 88.104.81.236 ( talk) 20:31, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
This is over 1mbpd of crude production — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.207.203.2 ( talk) 09:59, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Brazil oil production now beat records every day and surpassed even Opec countries ! you guys must search more about brazilian oil production
Now the list is completely different from the sources. Even using different sources. I will try to fix soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandresk ( talk • contribs) 02:29, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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This article is in bad shape. The data is simply different from the data that you can get on reference 1, either from the html or if you download the csv. The numbers are completely different, the year doesn't really matter. Some revisions, like the 02:39, 25 June 2019 one seem to be pure vandalism. I propose either someone fix the page and then it be frozen or that the article be simply deleted. I like the second option better. Can some admin do it? -- Frohfroh ( talk) 18:29, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
I will try to fix this article soon, later someone should lock it, It is important and should not be cancelled. - User Alexandresk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandresk ( talk • contribs) 02:38, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
someone keeps vandalizing the table, had to fix the order. 2600:1702:9F0:D140:A075:E90C:EB28:60D1 ( talk) 07:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
The intro paragraph says condensates are counted, but the IEA data for OPEC+ countries in September 2023 says it is not counting condensates, only crude oil. I have no idea if the September 2023 data for USA, Canada, Brazil and China includes condensates in it. If they do, the September 2023 table is misinformation and completely useless. Northside95 ( talk) 01:46, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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As noted below, Texas, Alaska, California and N. Dakota are hardly countries. In addition US Offshore should counted with the US total. I find two very different total US numbers here:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2173rank.html (US = 9,688,000 barrels/day)
and here
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_crd_crpdn_adc_mbblpd_a.htm (US = 5,694,000 barrels/day)
The first is probably too high. The second too low (e.g. does not contain natural gas liquids).
Figure 5 here
http://ourfiniteworld.com/2012/04/09/what-the-new-2011-eia-oil-supply-data-shows/
does seem to show that one goes from a US crude oil production of 6+ mbd to 10+ mbd through the addition of NGPLs, Other Liquids, and Processing Gain.
Page 24 of the primary citation for the US (FN3) actually lists us production in the 8,000,000 barrels/day range. (
http://omrpublic.iea.org/omrarchive/12may11sup.pdf). Also the department of energy's total (including all liquids) puts US production in the 10,000,000 barrels/day range (
http://www.eia.gov/countries/index.cfm?view=production). I can't figure out where the figure for the US came from, but it is very wrong. — Preceding
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It's not wrong, not in early 2013. It is however outaded. The US now produces 12.1 million blls of oil, not crude oil mind you, but oil. This includes synthetics and converted materials such as liquid gases. — Preceding
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A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries. Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 12:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Chart of exports and production of oil by nation has been merged here, i want to discuss adding list of exports and imports as well as production to this page based on the EIA figures at http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/country/index.cfm --neon white talk 18:24, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
This article about the list of oil production by countries is a complete sham of facts and makes absolutely no sense. Opec, the Arab League and European Union are not countries. They each are a collection of countries. OPEC includes Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Syria, Jordan, etc. and also including Venazula a South American country, definitely not an Arab country. The Arab League also is a collection of Arab countries, but not all Arab countries belong.
Also, Texas, California, North Dakota and others are states of the United States not seperate countries. Please change these things and correct your mistakes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbyr55 ( talk • contribs) 19:06, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Are we talking about conventional crude oil, or do we count tar sands, oil shale, natural gas liquids, biofuels, and other non-conventional sources of oil?
It says 'crude from drilling', but that's not quite precise enough for my liking. Can we be as specific as possible about what we do include, and what's not included?
My reasoning is that non-conventional sources of petroleum energy are compose a growing percentage of total "oil" produced. In Canada, for example, roughly 25% of all 'oil' production is from the tar sands of Alberta, producing so-called syncrude, not conventional crude. Biofuels, too are growing in their production to significant levels. Therefore, it is pertinent to question the type of oil being produced. — fudoreaper ( talk) 06:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Also, is refined oil included? I'm pretty sure Singapore, for example, does not have oil, though they import crude for refining and sell to ships. —Már K — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.37.107.131 ( talk) 15:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
The CIA source has been updated [1]. The data need to be updated accordingly. Bcs09 ( talk) 13:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
someone has some explaining to do or elses provide the other source being used. Grmike ( talk) 19:36, 8 August 2010 (UTC)grmike
Since this is a list of production by individual country, I suggest removing the European Union numbers and the World numbers. I realize that this list is pretty much copy and paste from CIA factbook and the EU is in the list, but it is not an individual country. The information could be included outside the actual list for comparison purposes. Something like "Worldwide oil production is estimated at..." and "All oil producing countries in the EU produce an estimated total of..." That's just my humble opinion though. -- Brendanmccabe ( talk) 15:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Why is the Arab League still there? It isn't a country. — Preceding
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What is the reasoning behind leaving China out of the charts in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.215.140 ( talk) 02:20, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Please can someone add an 'is opec member' column to that production table? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.240.128.75 ( talk) 12:15, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Arkansas needs to be highlighted on the map, its ranked between 77-78. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.238.58.249 ( talk) 12:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Why is Iran out of order (as of 8/15 4:31PM)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.209.159.19 ( talk) 20:32, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
The numbers given in this are really really off. Regardless of if we are examining raw crude output or all liquids output (the introduction suggests the latter) the entries are all completely wrong. Also, the previous citation given for Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the US ( http://omrpublic.iea.org/omrarchive/12may11sup.pdf) does not contain the figures given. In fact, none of the citations seem to.
Because I can't figure out where these very wrong numbers come from, I am wondering if this is being trolled or worse still manipulated for some objective?
-- Sjk81 ( talk) 14:00, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
I found the culprit. Someone completely muddled the numbers two weeks ago. I'm undoing back to the most reasonable, if still not accurate, figures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjk81 ( talk • contribs) 14:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
I followed edits by an IP to here, they added Scotland. It was removed, however I think they have a point, the article is "List of countries by oil production", and states "list of countries by oil production mostly based on CIA World Factbook data", yet this does not list US states independent of the country. So why are various states that dont meet the criteria being listed? Murry1975 ( talk) 15:54, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Scotland produces around 90% of the oil production which is attributed to the United Kingdom (90% of the oil attributed to the UK is produced in Scottish adjacent waters which are under the jurisdiction of Scots Law and therefore "Scottish waters"). Every single attempt to include this fact on this article is instantly deleted with weasel comments regarding Scotland not being a sovereign country etc.
However, the list also contains: 21 States of the United States of America (Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Louisiana, Wyoming, Kansas, Colorado, Utah, Montana, Mississippi, Illinois, Michigan, Arkansas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Nebraska, Kentucky, Florida, Indiana, West Virginia, South Dakota); 1 territory of the United States of America (Commonwealth of Puerto Rico) and 1 constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Aruba). So 23 other non sovereign states are included on this list due to the oil produced within their territory, but Scotland is not. What is the motivation and justification for this inconsistency? What is it about Scotland that means that country is subject to inconsistent treatment in regards to this article? If the precise figures on the amount of oil produced in Scotland are added to the article then will Scotland be able to remain on the list and no longer be arbitrarily deleted from it for baseless reasons? Either Scotland and all the 23 other countries and territories mentioned above are not allowed to feature on this list, or Scotland features on the list until all the 23 others are removed. I would say either of those two options are fair. Anything else is unfair, inconsistent, hypocritical and biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.76.48.95 ( talk) 11:43, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
9 | Venezuela | 3,023,000 | 4.74% | 2013 est. |
5 | China | 4,073,000 | 4.56% | 2013 est. |
21 | Indonesia | 982,900 | 1.66% | 2013 est. |
18 | Qatar | 1,631,000 | 1.44% | 2013 est. |
23 | India | 897,300 | 1.04% | 2013 est. |
22 | Colombia | 1,011,992 | 0.97% | 2013 est. |
It seems to be wrong for me. -- Ruwolf ( talk) 03:43, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Seems to handle the numbers as strings. 217.42.56.54 ( talk) 18:20, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/15/us-oil-pira-idUSL1N0I51IX20131015 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-15/u-s-becomes-world-s-top-oil-producer-in-2013-pira-says.html http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/The-US-Passes-Saudi-Arabia-to-become-the-Worlds-Largest-Oil-Producer.html http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s-becomes-worlds-largest-oil-producer-passing-russia-and-saudi-arabia/
U.S. apparently #1 in crude oil production, exclusive of biofuels: https://www.spe.org/en/jpt/jpt-article-detail/?art=4621 & https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/12/investing/us-oil-production-russia-saudi-arabia/index.html Kdammers ( talk) 22:13, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Russia: 10,550,000 barrels / day.
Saudi Arabia: 9,850,000 b/pd. Source:
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02:12, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
To stop the edit wars over the production rates and rankings, we need to have a consensus on just what we are measuring here. Different sources are reporting different classes of liquid fuels.
Biofuels - the USEIA web page on International Energy Statistics, under "Total Oil Supply", includes "other liquids", which, according to the Notes section, includes ethanol, biodiesel, and liquid fuels manufactured from coal and oil shale. The CIA World Factbook appears to be taken from this US EIA table. By including biofuels, the US is put in the #1 position. If we deduct the 1.2 million barrels/day of biofuels (listed by the USEIA in another table), the US falls to second place behind Saudi Arabia, but ahead of Russia. I myself believe that most people reading this article assume that "oil" here means fossil-fuel oil, and not biofuels, and the inclusion of biofuels causes only confusion. For that reason, I believe that we should not be using either the CIA World Factbook or the USEIA table of "Total Oil Production."
Refinery processing gain - This is the increase in volume during refining. It is included in the USEIA web page on International Energy Statistics, under "Total Oil Supply", as well as in the CIA World Factbook apparently based on the USEIA "Total Oil Supply" table. If the US imports crude oil for refining, the refinery processing gain presumably is credited to the US rather than the country which produced the petroleum. This is why Singapore, which has no oil or gas wells, but does have refineries, is credited with production on the CIA Factbook and EIA "Total Oil Supply" tables. This is not what people commonly think of as "oil production", and so I believe that it does not belong in this article.
Natural Gas Plant Liquids - These are light liquid hydrocarbons that are extracted from natural gas at gas processing plants prior to delivering the gas to consumers. Most sources do not report these data. The USEIA table "Total Oil Production" includes them, as does the CIA World Factbook taken from the USEIA "Total Oil Supply" data. If we include NGLs, the top three producers in order are: Saudi Arabia, United States, and Russia. If we leave out NGLs, the ranking is: Russia, Saudi Arabia, United States. My own opinion is that because NGLs are not usually reported, we should leave them out.
Crude Oil and Condensate - These are the hydrocarbons that separate out as liquids at the wellhead. Because these are the most easily measurable and most commonly reported, I believe that this is the best measure to include in this article. Sources can be either the OPEC statistical bulletin, or the USEIA website under "Crude oil and lease condensate"; the two sources differ only slightly in their numbers (with one exception, see below), and either source would be good. The top three producers(in order) for this category are: Russia, Saudi Arabia, United States.
Canadian Oil Sands - The OPEC statistics exclude petroleum from Canadian oil sands, presumably because the oil is mined rather than produced from a well. The US EIA statistics include Canadian oil sands. If we include mined oil sands, Canada is the #5 crude oil producer in the world; if not, Canada drops to #15.
If we can have a consensus on which categories to include, we can stop the quibbling and give readers a clear article with consistent numbers. What does everyone think? Plazak ( talk) 13:49, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
I note the discussion above and the concerns about the sources of the information indicating that the US was the top producer in the first quarter of 2014. However, it is a serious act of omission to display information that is in all probability no longer accurate without at least a caveat before the chart noting that 2014 figures, when available, will likely show a different ranking. Tetsuo ( talk) 04:53, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
I see that the first two show 2006 data. Another shows 2009. Various paragraphs refer to 2009 and 2012. Tetsuo ( talk) 05:01, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
I see that someone has redone the list to reflect the US EIA's list for "Petroleum and other Liquids". Unfortunately, the casual reader may take the title ("oil production") at face value, and not realize that this EIA list also includes biofuels and refinery gain. Most people would not consider biofuels such as ethanol to be "oil". Also, most would not count refinery gain (the increase in volume in converting crude oil to refined products) to count as "oil production". Because this ranking includes refinery gain, we find here such non-petroleum producing nations as South Korea (#53), Singapore (#78), U.S. Virgin Islands (#82), Switzerland (#99), and Hong Kong (#118).
My own opinion is that this article should either use the EIA list: Crude oil and lease condensate, or rename this article "Oil and other liquid fuels production" in the interest of accuracy. In the meantime, perhaps we should start another article: "List of countries by crude oil production", to accurately list countries without the misleading additions of biofuels and refinery gain. Thoughts? Plazak ( talk) 18:36, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Plazak: This is finally updated here, with 2016 numbers and careful explanatory text. I hope it helps stabilize the endless stream of chaotic edits. I'll try to check the page more frequently. — Patrug ( talk) 08:08, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Some of the table entries are highlighted in green but it doesn't say why anywhere, anyone know? 184.161.106.203 ( talk) 10:59, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Strangely enough, Ecuador is missing from the list! That must be a mistake (or a troll). Ecuador is an OPEC member and just cannot be absent, regardless of how much it produces. And as shown in List_of_countries_by_oil_production, it should figure somewhere in place 37-38, between Gabon and Peru. Can somebody fix that?! Thanks! Ilyacadiz ( talk) 08:49, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps almost as strange, Oman is missing from the list. Though Oman is not an OPEC member, according to the Wikipedia article Economy of Oman, it still produces oil. Here's a quote from the article: "By mid-2000, production had climbed to more than 900,000 b/d where they remain." If true, this would place it right above Azerbaijan, ranking it at #20. Emerald Evergreen 20:39, 13 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisa Beck ( talk • contribs)
Why does Indonesia have a unique color on one of its bars in the graph? I guess this is a coding error, but maybe not? Kdammers ( talk) 04:41, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
According to EIA frequently asked questions, "What countries are the top producers and consumers of oil," the #1 is United States for 2016.
See: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barntowood ( talk • contribs) 21:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Well, title says it all. Alot has changed since the graph which is from back in 2016. So... someone should probably update the list of countries by petroleum production. >_> 191.89.109.121 ( talk) 11:44, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Natural gas must be diferentiated from the oil production, or the graphic must be renamed as fossil fuels,... -- 46.128.247.109 ( talk) 20:07, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
There is no number 30 on the list.-- Bornsommer ( talk) 11:24, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Where does the USA output of 12m barrels per day come from? Neither of the sources say this. EIA say 10.962m while Expressnews say 11.3m. Are we rounding? If so, rounding up to the nearest million, or just adding an extra million on for some reason before rounding up? Why not just round to the closest million as it's more accurate? Is this table ever going to be devoid of manipulation? 88.104.81.236 ( talk) 20:31, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
This is over 1mbpd of crude production — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.207.203.2 ( talk) 09:59, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Brazil oil production now beat records every day and surpassed even Opec countries ! you guys must search more about brazilian oil production
Now the list is completely different from the sources. Even using different sources. I will try to fix soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandresk ( talk • contribs) 02:29, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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This article is in bad shape. The data is simply different from the data that you can get on reference 1, either from the html or if you download the csv. The numbers are completely different, the year doesn't really matter. Some revisions, like the 02:39, 25 June 2019 one seem to be pure vandalism. I propose either someone fix the page and then it be frozen or that the article be simply deleted. I like the second option better. Can some admin do it? -- Frohfroh ( talk) 18:29, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
I will try to fix this article soon, later someone should lock it, It is important and should not be cancelled. - User Alexandresk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandresk ( talk • contribs) 02:38, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
someone keeps vandalizing the table, had to fix the order. 2600:1702:9F0:D140:A075:E90C:EB28:60D1 ( talk) 07:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
The intro paragraph says condensates are counted, but the IEA data for OPEC+ countries in September 2023 says it is not counting condensates, only crude oil. I have no idea if the September 2023 data for USA, Canada, Brazil and China includes condensates in it. If they do, the September 2023 table is misinformation and completely useless. Northside95 ( talk) 01:46, 27 March 2024 (UTC)