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Starting this discussion about Alexandria Susia. This settlement did not exist and there is no evidence it was called Alexandria Susia either. Currently, according to my source which lists several ancient geographers ( https://books.google.ca/books/about/The_Hellenistic_Settlements_in_the_East.html?id=3aabFPHxRPUC&redir_esc=y) points to an Alexandropolis that may have been founded in Parthia, but the existence is heavily disputed. If there was an Alexandropolis in Parthia, it was almost certainly located near Nisa, the old Parthian capital in present-day Turkmenistan. The source given for Alexandria Susia is an Arabic(?) and another which doesn't given an exact location but just lists an Alexandropolis in Parthia.
Tus was never called Alexandria, as far as we know, it was just called Susia. The only ancient city we know the name of that may have existed in the area of Masshad is Patigrabana.
In general there seems to be a lot of fictional locations on this page, with previous entries like Alexandria Asiana and Alexandria in Babylon being complete fabrications. Botswanna ( talk) 19:23, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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This image is also incredibly inaccurate. There is no evidence for 'Alexandria in the Babylon' and 'Alexandria Arabika' (which I'm assuming is supposed to be Raqqa, Syria. Raqqa was never called Alexandria, or if it was there is not attestation of it in ancient geography. Raqqa's official names through history were Nicephorium, Callinicum and Leontopolis. The source given for 'Alexandria in the Babylon' is also referencing a city named 'Iskandarya' in Iraq, but the only source we have for that city is a CNN article referencing a suicide bombing. We don't know why this city was named Iskandarya. While there are references to a city named 'Alexandria near Babylon' in the Alexander Romance, this city has been identified as either Alexandria near the Pallakopas (location unknown but probably close to the Euphrates near Najaf), Seleucia, Seleucia on the Hedyphone or Alexandria in Susiana. Again, using this source which is well referenced ( https://books.google.ca/books/about/The_Hellenistic_Settlements_in_the_East.html?id=3aabFPHxRPUC&redir_esc=y).
There is also no city called Alexandria Asiana. Again, a fabricated, made-up location. Any references to this city online just reference the Wikipedia article. Just because there are cities named Iskandarya or Eskandar in Iran or Iraq does not automatically mean they can be attributed to Alexander the Great. Also, several named are wrong. Alexandria Susiana was never called Alexandria Charax. Charax was a later name given to the city. Alexandria 'on' Gedrosia is also wrong, it was either called Alexandria in Rhambacia or Alexandria of the Orietai.
Third, Alexandria Troas was not founded by Alexander the Great. The city was re-named by Lysimachus in honor of Alexander several decades after his death. Botswanna ( talk) 19:33, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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Starting this discussion about Alexandria Susia. This settlement did not exist and there is no evidence it was called Alexandria Susia either. Currently, according to my source which lists several ancient geographers ( https://books.google.ca/books/about/The_Hellenistic_Settlements_in_the_East.html?id=3aabFPHxRPUC&redir_esc=y) points to an Alexandropolis that may have been founded in Parthia, but the existence is heavily disputed. If there was an Alexandropolis in Parthia, it was almost certainly located near Nisa, the old Parthian capital in present-day Turkmenistan. The source given for Alexandria Susia is an Arabic(?) and another which doesn't given an exact location but just lists an Alexandropolis in Parthia.
Tus was never called Alexandria, as far as we know, it was just called Susia. The only ancient city we know the name of that may have existed in the area of Masshad is Patigrabana.
In general there seems to be a lot of fictional locations on this page, with previous entries like Alexandria Asiana and Alexandria in Babylon being complete fabrications. Botswanna ( talk) 19:23, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
@Aay1373
This image is also incredibly inaccurate. There is no evidence for 'Alexandria in the Babylon' and 'Alexandria Arabika' (which I'm assuming is supposed to be Raqqa, Syria. Raqqa was never called Alexandria, or if it was there is not attestation of it in ancient geography. Raqqa's official names through history were Nicephorium, Callinicum and Leontopolis. The source given for 'Alexandria in the Babylon' is also referencing a city named 'Iskandarya' in Iraq, but the only source we have for that city is a CNN article referencing a suicide bombing. We don't know why this city was named Iskandarya. While there are references to a city named 'Alexandria near Babylon' in the Alexander Romance, this city has been identified as either Alexandria near the Pallakopas (location unknown but probably close to the Euphrates near Najaf), Seleucia, Seleucia on the Hedyphone or Alexandria in Susiana. Again, using this source which is well referenced ( https://books.google.ca/books/about/The_Hellenistic_Settlements_in_the_East.html?id=3aabFPHxRPUC&redir_esc=y).
There is also no city called Alexandria Asiana. Again, a fabricated, made-up location. Any references to this city online just reference the Wikipedia article. Just because there are cities named Iskandarya or Eskandar in Iran or Iraq does not automatically mean they can be attributed to Alexander the Great. Also, several named are wrong. Alexandria Susiana was never called Alexandria Charax. Charax was a later name given to the city. Alexandria 'on' Gedrosia is also wrong, it was either called Alexandria in Rhambacia or Alexandria of the Orietai.
Third, Alexandria Troas was not founded by Alexander the Great. The city was re-named by Lysimachus in honor of Alexander several decades after his death. Botswanna ( talk) 19:33, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Hawkeye7 (
talk) 21:35, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
5x expanded by AirshipJungleman29 ( talk). Self-nominated at 23:49, 10 January 2023 (UTC).