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The result was keep separate. -- Debate 木 10:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Please go to Talk:List of cities in the West Bank and Gaza Strip for the merge discussion. -- Shuki 21:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
I've blocked new and unregistered users from editing this article because of a wave of edits by different (but closely related) IPs, highly exagarating the populations of the cities. The populations provided are from the PCBS, the most reliable source when it comes to this subject. Plus, no source gives the populations that high. The semi-protection will last for 24 hours. -- Al Ameer son ( talk) 19:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
"Category:People by city or town in Palestine" has the entry "People from Jerusalem". Should it be here also?
"Abu Dis" is listed from Jerusalem Governorate. Has this something to do with East Jerusalem?
85.217.15.248 (
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This list can't seam to decide whether it wants to be about the West Bank (it shows a map of the west bank), or weather it wants to be about the Palestinian territories (it shows some cities from the Gaza Strip). Which it it? We have an article about the List of cities in the Gaza Strip, so if this list is about the whole Palestinian territories, shouldn't these lists be merged. Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 21:32, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Now that the merge is mostly complete, should we expand the scope to include the settlements (the page would need to be renamed to reflect the larger scope)? After all, the settlements are cites, and they are in the Palestinian territories. Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 02:07, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
The merger of the "List of cities administered by Hamas Administration" was done skipping the vote procedure, and hence been reverted. See discussion at Talk:List of cities administered by Hamas Administration#Merge. Greyshark09 ( talk) 08:25, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved: no decision after 49 days, no discussion in the last 14 days Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 08:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
List of cities administered by the Palestinian National Authority →
List of Palestinian cities in the West Bank and Gaza strip –
This list should be renamed, because cities in the Gaza strip are not administered by the Palestinian National Authority (i.e. the State of Palestine). I propose to rename it to List of Palestinian cities in the West Bank and Gaza strip, but there can be a better name.--Relisted.
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List of cities administered by the Palestinian National Authority → List of cities administered by the State of Palestine – The Palestinian National Authority no longer exists. Greg Kaye 16:37, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
The division that has been created here is thanks to Wikipedia editors since three years ago, as can bee seen in the article history. While Hamas governs Gaza (the Gaza Strip), no one claims it to be separate from Palestine. There was a discussion in Talk:List of cities in the Gaza Strip#Merge in October 2012 but then it was called List of cities administered by Hamas Administration and there has also been a discussion here above during that time.
Sure there could be two articles, one listing cities in the West Bank and the other one listing those in Gaza (now there is one for the latter), but there should be a general one any way, which this one could be. It could be changed to "in the State of Palestine" (or "in the Palestinian territories") if that is needed to include Gaza again. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 01:52, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
These are the current articles on the topic:
So I suggest to merge the two first to be about both the West Bank and Gaza. To differ between which is "administered by the State of Palestine" and which is "in Palestine" is just because of the Israeli settlements. To satisfy them is weird and this could, as I said in the move discussion above, be solved by just saying it excludes Israeli settlements with city status.
Another article that could be created is a list of cities in the West Bank as we have one for Gaza. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 03:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
The State of Palestine is acually the PNA that changed its name after being accepted as a UN observer member. The PNA has de-facto controll only on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip is under the Hamas controll. Accuarding to the Oslo accords, the PLO is the only legitemte goverment for the PNA and therefore, Gaza is illegaly under the Hamas goverment. Therefore I belive we should add in the table, for every city a "In the Gaza Strip" and "In the West Bank" This table show De-Jure administration, I think it can show some De-Facto administration. Bolter21 ( talk) 12:04, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
List of cities administered by the State of Palestine → List of cities administrated by the Palestinian National Authority and the Hamas government or List of cities in the Palestinian National Authority (with a split or a note to who administrate them)
The PNA was never transfromed to SoP. See SOURCES HERE -- Bolter21 23:51, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
@
IRISZOOM: @
Greyshark09: @
E.M.Gregory:
List of cities administered by the State of Palestine —→ List of cities administrated by the Palestinian Authority
Since all of the cities in the Palestinian Territories are administrated by the PNA, there is no problem here.
And in regard to the claim "The term "Palestinian Territories" is not used anymore", I suggest taking a look in this lists, saying "Estimated Population in the Palestinian Territory Mid-Year by Governorate,1997-2016" Still, cities in the Palestinian Territories would have to include Israel settlements who has different meaninings and therefore I suggest writing about cities who are administrated by the Palestinian Authority which is 100% recognized (de jure) and will have no effect on the content of this article.
-- Bolter21 14:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Would you mind giving an opinion so we could resolve this issue? -- Bolter21 12:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
@
IRISZOOM: @
Greyshark09: @
E.M.Gregory:
List of cities administered by the State of Palestine —→ List of cities in the Palestinian Territories
The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics use this term source. -- Bolter21 ( talk to me) 20:06, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
@ GregKaye: Please express your opinion on this. The claim that the PNA doesn't exist anymore was already refuted. -- Bolter21 ( talk to me) 21:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Greyshark09: So should I move this? -- Bolter21 ( talk to me) 11:45, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
I've attempted to get the definition of "city" on the website of the Palestinian Authority Ministry of Local Government, but found no such distinction, as mentioned in the article. However, there are three levels of "municipality", A, B, C and D (distinct from the political designations Area A, B and C), in addition to village councils, and other designations of local governments. I would think the designation municipality A would be the closest equivalent to city. Some governorate seats are designated as municipality B. Perhaps we could have clearer selection criteria of the listed cities. Many of these listed here have a population of under 20K. One option would be to include only the Municipality A designation. Another would be to list all cities with more a population greater than 20000, a third would be to list municipalities A and B. -- Fjmustak ( talk) 21:59, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
It is suggested here that the title of this article be amended to read with an asterisk, placed after "State of Palestine" and which directs to the explanation " Palestinian Authority", since, as of yet, no final solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been reached, and there is not yet an independent Palestinian State. Davidbena ( talk) 09:32, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep separate. -- Debate 木 10:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Please go to Talk:List of cities in the West Bank and Gaza Strip for the merge discussion. -- Shuki 21:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
I've blocked new and unregistered users from editing this article because of a wave of edits by different (but closely related) IPs, highly exagarating the populations of the cities. The populations provided are from the PCBS, the most reliable source when it comes to this subject. Plus, no source gives the populations that high. The semi-protection will last for 24 hours. -- Al Ameer son ( talk) 19:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
"Category:People by city or town in Palestine" has the entry "People from Jerusalem". Should it be here also?
"Abu Dis" is listed from Jerusalem Governorate. Has this something to do with East Jerusalem?
85.217.15.248 (
talk)
05:44, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
This list can't seam to decide whether it wants to be about the West Bank (it shows a map of the west bank), or weather it wants to be about the Palestinian territories (it shows some cities from the Gaza Strip). Which it it? We have an article about the List of cities in the Gaza Strip, so if this list is about the whole Palestinian territories, shouldn't these lists be merged. Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 21:32, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Now that the merge is mostly complete, should we expand the scope to include the settlements (the page would need to be renamed to reflect the larger scope)? After all, the settlements are cites, and they are in the Palestinian territories. Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 02:07, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
The merger of the "List of cities administered by Hamas Administration" was done skipping the vote procedure, and hence been reverted. See discussion at Talk:List of cities administered by Hamas Administration#Merge. Greyshark09 ( talk) 08:25, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved: no decision after 49 days, no discussion in the last 14 days Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 08:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
List of cities administered by the Palestinian National Authority →
List of Palestinian cities in the West Bank and Gaza strip –
This list should be renamed, because cities in the Gaza strip are not administered by the Palestinian National Authority (i.e. the State of Palestine). I propose to rename it to List of Palestinian cities in the West Bank and Gaza strip, but there can be a better name.--Relisted.
jcc (
tea and biscuits) 11:36, 30 May 2013 (UTC)--
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03:34, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
List of cities administered by the Palestinian National Authority → List of cities administered by the State of Palestine – The Palestinian National Authority no longer exists. Greg Kaye 16:37, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
The division that has been created here is thanks to Wikipedia editors since three years ago, as can bee seen in the article history. While Hamas governs Gaza (the Gaza Strip), no one claims it to be separate from Palestine. There was a discussion in Talk:List of cities in the Gaza Strip#Merge in October 2012 but then it was called List of cities administered by Hamas Administration and there has also been a discussion here above during that time.
Sure there could be two articles, one listing cities in the West Bank and the other one listing those in Gaza (now there is one for the latter), but there should be a general one any way, which this one could be. It could be changed to "in the State of Palestine" (or "in the Palestinian territories") if that is needed to include Gaza again. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 01:52, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
These are the current articles on the topic:
So I suggest to merge the two first to be about both the West Bank and Gaza. To differ between which is "administered by the State of Palestine" and which is "in Palestine" is just because of the Israeli settlements. To satisfy them is weird and this could, as I said in the move discussion above, be solved by just saying it excludes Israeli settlements with city status.
Another article that could be created is a list of cities in the West Bank as we have one for Gaza. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 03:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
The State of Palestine is acually the PNA that changed its name after being accepted as a UN observer member. The PNA has de-facto controll only on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip is under the Hamas controll. Accuarding to the Oslo accords, the PLO is the only legitemte goverment for the PNA and therefore, Gaza is illegaly under the Hamas goverment. Therefore I belive we should add in the table, for every city a "In the Gaza Strip" and "In the West Bank" This table show De-Jure administration, I think it can show some De-Facto administration. Bolter21 ( talk) 12:04, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
List of cities administered by the State of Palestine → List of cities administrated by the Palestinian National Authority and the Hamas government or List of cities in the Palestinian National Authority (with a split or a note to who administrate them)
The PNA was never transfromed to SoP. See SOURCES HERE -- Bolter21 23:51, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
@
IRISZOOM: @
Greyshark09: @
E.M.Gregory:
List of cities administered by the State of Palestine —→ List of cities administrated by the Palestinian Authority
Since all of the cities in the Palestinian Territories are administrated by the PNA, there is no problem here.
And in regard to the claim "The term "Palestinian Territories" is not used anymore", I suggest taking a look in this lists, saying "Estimated Population in the Palestinian Territory Mid-Year by Governorate,1997-2016" Still, cities in the Palestinian Territories would have to include Israel settlements who has different meaninings and therefore I suggest writing about cities who are administrated by the Palestinian Authority which is 100% recognized (de jure) and will have no effect on the content of this article.
-- Bolter21 14:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Would you mind giving an opinion so we could resolve this issue? -- Bolter21 12:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
@
IRISZOOM: @
Greyshark09: @
E.M.Gregory:
List of cities administered by the State of Palestine —→ List of cities in the Palestinian Territories
The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics use this term source. -- Bolter21 ( talk to me) 20:06, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
@ GregKaye: Please express your opinion on this. The claim that the PNA doesn't exist anymore was already refuted. -- Bolter21 ( talk to me) 21:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Greyshark09: So should I move this? -- Bolter21 ( talk to me) 11:45, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
I've attempted to get the definition of "city" on the website of the Palestinian Authority Ministry of Local Government, but found no such distinction, as mentioned in the article. However, there are three levels of "municipality", A, B, C and D (distinct from the political designations Area A, B and C), in addition to village councils, and other designations of local governments. I would think the designation municipality A would be the closest equivalent to city. Some governorate seats are designated as municipality B. Perhaps we could have clearer selection criteria of the listed cities. Many of these listed here have a population of under 20K. One option would be to include only the Municipality A designation. Another would be to list all cities with more a population greater than 20000, a third would be to list municipalities A and B. -- Fjmustak ( talk) 21:59, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
It is suggested here that the title of this article be amended to read with an asterisk, placed after "State of Palestine" and which directs to the explanation " Palestinian Authority", since, as of yet, no final solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been reached, and there is not yet an independent Palestinian State. Davidbena ( talk) 09:32, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
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