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you've forgot Samarium in the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.64.213.16 ( talk) 15:01, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
I corrected "New Zealander-English" to "New Zealand-English"(for Sir Ernest Rutherford), as the adjective for New Zealand is New Zealand. New Zealander is the noun. All other countries use the adjective form, so for consistency this should be New Zealand-English. User:Nedim Ardoğa reverted my edit with the explanation "Nationality not the country". This is illogical and I'd like to revert the revert, please. Aaadddaaammm ( talk) 01:26, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
When I created this article back in 2011, the element Samarium was not in the list. It was added by User:Aaadddaaammm in 2014. (see above notice) After this addition I put a note stating that Vasili Samarsky-Bykhovets was actually a mining engineer. Now this addition is contested by User:Hellbus. Now lets discuss on whether or not to keep samarium in the list. Nedim Ardoğa ( talk) 10:10, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Should livermorium be added to this list? Flerovium is on the list, and it was named after the Flerov Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions. By analogy, livermorium is named after the Lawrence-Livermore National Laboratory. Alternatively, flerovium could be removed from the list because it wasn't named after a person, per se. Zachcrush14 ( talk) 21:55, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
In listing element 116 in this article, it is not complete to solely present Robert Livermore's name, because the element was named in honor of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, and the full name of this lab honors two people, not one. An explanation of this has been added to the article, specifically stating Ernest Lawrence's name. And his name has been added to the table parenthetically, in italics. It could be argued that Lawrence is the person who has a much stronger connection to element 116 than Livermore does.-- Tdadamemd sioz ( talk) 21:49, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
The main principle of this article is "people whose names are used in chemical element names" I can't see Lawrence in the element 116 name, so it doesn't belong to the table that 2nd time. Some note can be still be included. Also the Gallium is mentoned with a weak reason in the opening chapter, or is it this mystery 20th element. Why mythological deities are in this article and not on their own, confusing. There goes this amount issue that can't keep up with updates: "With these five" 85.76.146.16 ( talk) 22:22, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
A new column (speciality) has been added. But it is empty. Why do we need it ? I'll callthe editor. Nedim Ardoğa ( talk) 07:29, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
The majority of issues being hashed out on this Talk page appear that they can be cured by adding an explanation in the article about the distinction between names connected to elements that happened indirectly because they were named after things/places which in turn had been named after people, versus the elements that were directly named with the purpose of honoring scientists. Major revisions have been made to the article to make this perfectly clear. The two tables have been merged into one, with the distinction now marked with an asterisk. Berkeley was missing from this article for some reason. He's added (along with Lawrence) and this table should now be complete ...until such time as something might get found in the next row on the periodic table and more people get honored with element names.-- Tdadamemd sioz ( talk) 21:53, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
This article had originated back in 2011 presenting:
"Twelve of the chemical elements are named after scientists."
And up through yesterday, the article had the title:
"List of scientists whose names are used in chemical element names"
But the article had gone through an evolution where it had turned into a thorough listing of all the chemical elements that had been given names that are connected, either directly or indirectly, to the names of people. So it was clear that "scientists" was no longer an adequate title, as this did not accurately reflect the fact that several element names are connected to people who were not scientists. So yesterday the article title was changed to:
"List of people whose names are used in chemical element names"
But now, a recent change made today has reordered the table in an effort to read more clearly where the columns start with the element, followed by the people that these element names are connected to. With that change, it now seems that a more appropriate title for the article would be something like:
"List of chemical elements with names that are connected to the name of a person"
...or something similar to that. What is being suggested is basically to do a swap in the ordering of the title to match the new swap in the column ordering in the table.-- Tdadamemd sioz ( talk) 15:48, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Why is Samarium marked as indirect and Gadolinium not? Both are named for a mineral that was named for a scientist. -- Klausok ( talk) 22:28, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Gadolin is now marked as indirect. Who ever makes these changes should recalculate the amounts and change not only under the table but the opening chapter amounts as well, thank you. 85.76.146.16 ( talk) 21:06, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
In the opening, it says "On top of this, a 21st person, a 17th scientist, has an implied connection to a 20th element". Which person/element is this referring to?
I would appreciate some clarification.
Blorper234 ( talk) 00:23, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Nationalities of three names (Einstein, Livermore and Oganessian) were reverted. Well , some people like Einstein lived , worked and studied in different countries. How can we define their nationalities ? I think their home country and the country in which they accomplished most can be their nationality. In case of Einstein the candidates are Germany (home country), Switzerland (his famous papers) and US (citizenship). I prefer Germany and US but the reverter insists on Switzerland instead of US. Any suggestion ? Nedim Ardoğa ( talk) 17:17, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
According to the list, Pallas is named for Pallas Athena. According to the note on titans, Pallas was named for a titan. Which, if either, is correct? Klausok ( talk) 05:04, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
![]() | This discussion was listed at Wikipedia:Move review on 3 August 2021. The result of the move review was Moved to List of chemical elements named after people per nom, after reconsideration. Merge discussion can be held separately. No such user ( talk) 14:09, 3 August 2021 (UTC). |
The result of the move request was: Merged to List of chemical element name etymologies; see Talk:List of places used in the names of chemical elements#Requested move 3 July 2021 as well. No need to have separate litss. I will selectively merge the textual information (not the table); feel free to merge whatever I missed. No such user ( talk) 13:27, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
List of people whose names are used in chemical element names → List of chemical elements named after people – The current name is way too long. Also, there are a lot of other lists titled "list of x named after people" so this list would make more sense with that title format. Blubabluba9990 ( talk) ( contribs) 18:08, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
As mentioned in the lead, americium, berkelium and livermorium were not named after people but places. Yet the average reader does not read the lead of a list article and goes straight to the list (why they are here) so will be completely mislead. Isn't there a way to mark this discrepancy? Or should they just be removed? Aza24 (talk) 06:27, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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you've forgot Samarium in the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.64.213.16 ( talk) 15:01, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
I corrected "New Zealander-English" to "New Zealand-English"(for Sir Ernest Rutherford), as the adjective for New Zealand is New Zealand. New Zealander is the noun. All other countries use the adjective form, so for consistency this should be New Zealand-English. User:Nedim Ardoğa reverted my edit with the explanation "Nationality not the country". This is illogical and I'd like to revert the revert, please. Aaadddaaammm ( talk) 01:26, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
When I created this article back in 2011, the element Samarium was not in the list. It was added by User:Aaadddaaammm in 2014. (see above notice) After this addition I put a note stating that Vasili Samarsky-Bykhovets was actually a mining engineer. Now this addition is contested by User:Hellbus. Now lets discuss on whether or not to keep samarium in the list. Nedim Ardoğa ( talk) 10:10, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Should livermorium be added to this list? Flerovium is on the list, and it was named after the Flerov Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions. By analogy, livermorium is named after the Lawrence-Livermore National Laboratory. Alternatively, flerovium could be removed from the list because it wasn't named after a person, per se. Zachcrush14 ( talk) 21:55, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
In listing element 116 in this article, it is not complete to solely present Robert Livermore's name, because the element was named in honor of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, and the full name of this lab honors two people, not one. An explanation of this has been added to the article, specifically stating Ernest Lawrence's name. And his name has been added to the table parenthetically, in italics. It could be argued that Lawrence is the person who has a much stronger connection to element 116 than Livermore does.-- Tdadamemd sioz ( talk) 21:49, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
The main principle of this article is "people whose names are used in chemical element names" I can't see Lawrence in the element 116 name, so it doesn't belong to the table that 2nd time. Some note can be still be included. Also the Gallium is mentoned with a weak reason in the opening chapter, or is it this mystery 20th element. Why mythological deities are in this article and not on their own, confusing. There goes this amount issue that can't keep up with updates: "With these five" 85.76.146.16 ( talk) 22:22, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
A new column (speciality) has been added. But it is empty. Why do we need it ? I'll callthe editor. Nedim Ardoğa ( talk) 07:29, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
The majority of issues being hashed out on this Talk page appear that they can be cured by adding an explanation in the article about the distinction between names connected to elements that happened indirectly because they were named after things/places which in turn had been named after people, versus the elements that were directly named with the purpose of honoring scientists. Major revisions have been made to the article to make this perfectly clear. The two tables have been merged into one, with the distinction now marked with an asterisk. Berkeley was missing from this article for some reason. He's added (along with Lawrence) and this table should now be complete ...until such time as something might get found in the next row on the periodic table and more people get honored with element names.-- Tdadamemd sioz ( talk) 21:53, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
This article had originated back in 2011 presenting:
"Twelve of the chemical elements are named after scientists."
And up through yesterday, the article had the title:
"List of scientists whose names are used in chemical element names"
But the article had gone through an evolution where it had turned into a thorough listing of all the chemical elements that had been given names that are connected, either directly or indirectly, to the names of people. So it was clear that "scientists" was no longer an adequate title, as this did not accurately reflect the fact that several element names are connected to people who were not scientists. So yesterday the article title was changed to:
"List of people whose names are used in chemical element names"
But now, a recent change made today has reordered the table in an effort to read more clearly where the columns start with the element, followed by the people that these element names are connected to. With that change, it now seems that a more appropriate title for the article would be something like:
"List of chemical elements with names that are connected to the name of a person"
...or something similar to that. What is being suggested is basically to do a swap in the ordering of the title to match the new swap in the column ordering in the table.-- Tdadamemd sioz ( talk) 15:48, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Why is Samarium marked as indirect and Gadolinium not? Both are named for a mineral that was named for a scientist. -- Klausok ( talk) 22:28, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Gadolin is now marked as indirect. Who ever makes these changes should recalculate the amounts and change not only under the table but the opening chapter amounts as well, thank you. 85.76.146.16 ( talk) 21:06, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
In the opening, it says "On top of this, a 21st person, a 17th scientist, has an implied connection to a 20th element". Which person/element is this referring to?
I would appreciate some clarification.
Blorper234 ( talk) 00:23, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Nationalities of three names (Einstein, Livermore and Oganessian) were reverted. Well , some people like Einstein lived , worked and studied in different countries. How can we define their nationalities ? I think their home country and the country in which they accomplished most can be their nationality. In case of Einstein the candidates are Germany (home country), Switzerland (his famous papers) and US (citizenship). I prefer Germany and US but the reverter insists on Switzerland instead of US. Any suggestion ? Nedim Ardoğa ( talk) 17:17, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
According to the list, Pallas is named for Pallas Athena. According to the note on titans, Pallas was named for a titan. Which, if either, is correct? Klausok ( talk) 05:04, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
![]() | This discussion was listed at Wikipedia:Move review on 3 August 2021. The result of the move review was Moved to List of chemical elements named after people per nom, after reconsideration. Merge discussion can be held separately. No such user ( talk) 14:09, 3 August 2021 (UTC). |
The result of the move request was: Merged to List of chemical element name etymologies; see Talk:List of places used in the names of chemical elements#Requested move 3 July 2021 as well. No need to have separate litss. I will selectively merge the textual information (not the table); feel free to merge whatever I missed. No such user ( talk) 13:27, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
List of people whose names are used in chemical element names → List of chemical elements named after people – The current name is way too long. Also, there are a lot of other lists titled "list of x named after people" so this list would make more sense with that title format. Blubabluba9990 ( talk) ( contribs) 18:08, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
As mentioned in the lead, americium, berkelium and livermorium were not named after people but places. Yet the average reader does not read the lead of a list article and goes straight to the list (why they are here) so will be completely mislead. Isn't there a way to mark this discrepancy? Or should they just be removed? Aza24 (talk) 06:27, 22 July 2023 (UTC)