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Two things. At the very least, the lead could use some basic statistics comparing what kinds of volumes are produced by Alaskan breweries. The current lead looks like some boilerplate tacked on for the sake of having a lead, and is not exactly that relevant to the context of the article. Also, I don't think there are that many defunct breweries (unless you go back to the 19th and early 20th centuries), but enough to warrant a section. It would be a massive omission (not to mention giving undue weight to recent events) to fail to mention Prinz Brau.
Additionally, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there is still a Northwest brewing newspaper, which routinely covers Alaska. I don't see that used as a source at all. RadioKAOS ( talk) 07:41, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Point of clarification. Do we consider a listing in a Convention and Visitors Bureau (CVB) page a valid reference when adding a brewery? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stjeanp ( talk • contribs) 04:09, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
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link) This was published as a teacher's guide to developing classroom curricula for Alaskan topics. Immediately following mention of the passage of a Customs Act for Alaska in 1868, I see the following:a. The Customs Act became Section 1954 of the Revised Statutes, Vol. I, p. 95. It prohibited the importation of distilled liquors. Later, the Army, by regulation, prohibited the importation of wine. There was no prohibition of beer; and Sitka, from its very early days, had one or two breweries. John H. Kinkead, who later became the first governor, was interested in one of them.
Recently some breweries were added to the list, and then removed by another editor. For a brewery to be added to the list, it is not necessary for it to be notable in the Wikipedia sense. As it says at Wikipedia:Notability, "These notability guidelines only outline how suitable a topic is for its own article or list. They do not limit the content of an article or list." (Emphasis copied from guideline.) But it would be preferable if each entry in the list had its own third-party reference. For example, I just added Baranof Island Brewing Co. with this edit. — Mudwater ( Talk) 22:15, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
A list can be limited to notable entries if editors decide that is appropriate. I have no issues with people adding entries without articles if those entries are sourced to reliable, independent sources as you've done (I also agree with Prof. Mc that list entries referenced to an external list are not generally acceptable, though based more on the argument that it is prima face evidence of the entry failing WP:NOTDIRECTORY). IronGargoyle ( talk) 00:09, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello all. I noted that @ AKTriGuy: added a number of closed breweries, referenced to a source published in 1902. It caught my attention because one of them is Skagway Brewing Company, a brewery that definitely exists today by that name. It makes me feel that if this list is going to include historical (as in out of living memory) entities, it definitely needs date distinctions for when it operated or AT LEAST when it closed. Thoughts? Goalslammer ( talk) 23:15, 28 July 2018 (UTC) Goalslammer ( talk) - July 28, 2018
I like the idea of adding operating years to the Closed Breweries list (i.e. 1997-2000), and for the Operating breweries something like "est. 2007". Thoughts? AKTriGuy ( talk) 05:37, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
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Two things. At the very least, the lead could use some basic statistics comparing what kinds of volumes are produced by Alaskan breweries. The current lead looks like some boilerplate tacked on for the sake of having a lead, and is not exactly that relevant to the context of the article. Also, I don't think there are that many defunct breweries (unless you go back to the 19th and early 20th centuries), but enough to warrant a section. It would be a massive omission (not to mention giving undue weight to recent events) to fail to mention Prinz Brau.
Additionally, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there is still a Northwest brewing newspaper, which routinely covers Alaska. I don't see that used as a source at all. RadioKAOS ( talk) 07:41, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Point of clarification. Do we consider a listing in a Convention and Visitors Bureau (CVB) page a valid reference when adding a brewery? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stjeanp ( talk • contribs) 04:09, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
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link) This was published as a teacher's guide to developing classroom curricula for Alaskan topics. Immediately following mention of the passage of a Customs Act for Alaska in 1868, I see the following:a. The Customs Act became Section 1954 of the Revised Statutes, Vol. I, p. 95. It prohibited the importation of distilled liquors. Later, the Army, by regulation, prohibited the importation of wine. There was no prohibition of beer; and Sitka, from its very early days, had one or two breweries. John H. Kinkead, who later became the first governor, was interested in one of them.
Recently some breweries were added to the list, and then removed by another editor. For a brewery to be added to the list, it is not necessary for it to be notable in the Wikipedia sense. As it says at Wikipedia:Notability, "These notability guidelines only outline how suitable a topic is for its own article or list. They do not limit the content of an article or list." (Emphasis copied from guideline.) But it would be preferable if each entry in the list had its own third-party reference. For example, I just added Baranof Island Brewing Co. with this edit. — Mudwater ( Talk) 22:15, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
A list can be limited to notable entries if editors decide that is appropriate. I have no issues with people adding entries without articles if those entries are sourced to reliable, independent sources as you've done (I also agree with Prof. Mc that list entries referenced to an external list are not generally acceptable, though based more on the argument that it is prima face evidence of the entry failing WP:NOTDIRECTORY). IronGargoyle ( talk) 00:09, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello all. I noted that @ AKTriGuy: added a number of closed breweries, referenced to a source published in 1902. It caught my attention because one of them is Skagway Brewing Company, a brewery that definitely exists today by that name. It makes me feel that if this list is going to include historical (as in out of living memory) entities, it definitely needs date distinctions for when it operated or AT LEAST when it closed. Thoughts? Goalslammer ( talk) 23:15, 28 July 2018 (UTC) Goalslammer ( talk) - July 28, 2018
I like the idea of adding operating years to the Closed Breweries list (i.e. 1997-2000), and for the Operating breweries something like "est. 2007". Thoughts? AKTriGuy ( talk) 05:37, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
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