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Harout. There is a source claimed this band sold 80m records. I will bring the source to the list. Is it possible for them to have sold 80m records? Thanks Politsi ( talk) 23:05, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
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Update the Police's Australian sales from 407,000 to 827,000 as the Police's album 1986 album Every Breath You Take went 6x Platinum for the sales of 420,000 [1] Weberdexter666 ( talk) 01:05, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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Update the Police's Australian sales from 407,000 to 827,000 as the Police's album 1986 album Every Breath You Take went 6x Platinum for the sales of 420,000 [1] Weberdexter666 ( talk) 02:13, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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Update the Police's Australian sales as their albums Outlandos D'amore went Gold for the sales of 35,000 and Regatta de Blanc went Platinum for the sales of 70,000 which as adds ups to 105,000 sales altogether, also update the Police's Belgian sales as Regatta also went Gold in Belgium for the sales of 25,000. [1] Weberdexter666 ( talk) 23:33, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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Modern Talking sold over 120 million records, Depeche Mode over 100 million records, Pet Shop Boys other 100 million records just to say few. All bands not even mentioned. I wonder how your "premium" and wise editors can miss those astronomical sums. so much for protected articles feature :-D 93.34.92.26 ( talk) 11:28, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
The year 1975 probably refers to her second solo album Acid Queen. But her first single in the charts—together with Ike—was A Fool In Love. The couple began hitting the charts in 1960 with "A Fool in Love," and notched charting singles throughout the '60s [...]. ( allmusic.com) -- FoolInLove ( talk) 14:40, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Harout. Now she has 79.8m in certified sales. Can I move her to 100m list now? Thanks Politsi ( talk) 03:49, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Okay thanks. And by the way "Daily Mail" has Alicia Key's 75m claim since months ago... Politsi ( talk) 15:33, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8708069/Alicia-Keys-beams-alongside-husband-Swizz-Beatz-two-sons.html lets used it only for temporarily. Thanks Politsi ( talk) 03:12, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians, I was about to edit it but I thought it's worth discussing. I believe Beyonce's US certification is a little bit inflated. I've just calculated and it came 59.83m, I think the reason for this is that they've confused the "Video longform" certification with the "Album" or "Single" certification, because they're different criteria. So what you think about it? Moh8213 ( talk) 00:18, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Okay u proved me wrong lol anyway, thank u for ur time. Moh8213 ( talk) 15:57, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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Moonlight Entm ( talk) 16:20, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
We have to enter a new artist and I'd love to edit it
Harout. Several days ago, we failed to put Alicia Keys at the list because like I said, Daily Mail is banned to be used on wikipedia. But Keys already has nearly 75m in certified sales. Even 75m claim is too low for her. If a source directly come from Daily Mail is Banned. Then I think we could use this online news portal https://oltnews.com/alicia-keys-shines-alongside-husband-swizz-beatz-and-their-two-sons-2 oltnews.com is quite usable only for temporary. The source still came out from Daily Mail. But at least now, it's not using directly from Daily Mail website. What do you think? Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 03:24, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Harout. I see that Young's U.S certified sales is quite impressive for a very old artists like him. Is it possible to put him to the list with 75m claim. There is no newspaper yet writing about his sales but Entertainment Tonight Canada from Global Television Network currently put his sales at 75 million / https://etcanada.com/photos/686186/after-the-gold-rush-at-50-12-things-you-didnt-know-about-neil-youngs-classic-album/#image-686244 the article is very good. It's not a newspaper but at least it's a part of news organization. I think we should put this legendary singer to the list by using that source if his certified sales able make him go inside. Thanks Politsi ( talk) 04:20, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Why is Nana Mouskouri not included in this list? It is claimed that she has sold 350 million albums https://www.neomagazine.com/2018/07/forever-young-with-nana-mouskouri-the-biggest-selling-female-artist-of-all-time/#:~:text=With%20over%20200%20albums%20released,female%20artist%20of%20all%20time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:A82A:EC00:2CA2:267E:CFC1:7AB9 ( talk) 01:29, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Harout, what do you think if I move her to 120m club with 120m sales? Thanks Politsi ( talk) 11:44, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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Update the Police's Australian sales as their first 3 albums (Outlandos, Regatta and Zenyatta) all went Platinum for the sales of 50,000 each in 1981. [1] Limpdudemandurst6 ( talk) 17:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Harout. Is it possible for this Canadian singer to be on the list with 75m claim? Because I see his digital certified in U.S only is high (nearly 75m). And if possible, until now the only source available to support his 75m records claim is come from Black Entertaintment Television (BET)/Via Com website and I think it is usable temporarily to use since BET is a part of Via Com. What do you think? Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 20:46, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Need your help also to check if Cyrus already able to enter the list with 77m claim. https://thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/2019/08/11/iam-hemsworth-and-miley-cyrus-announce-split/ Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 12:16, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Billboard and Forbes have reported Spears has sold nearly 150 million albums worldwide; however, this page demonstrates she has sold 100 million. [1]
Hello, I already opened a talk page about it, but it got deleted I guess? Is there any way she could get on that list too? I'm pretty sure her digital sales must be well over 60 million, and her certified sales are for sure by over 100 million worldwide, including streaming of course. With over 15 million units, she is one of the best-selling artists in the UK. She also has high certified sales in the US, Canada, Australia, Germany, Norway and Brazil. It seems strange to me because the number of certified sales worldwide, as well as the top tens and number ones, could be compared to many artists that are on the list. Would be cool if I could get an answer. Thanks. x Mirrored7 ( talk) 03:50, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Please find a reliable source to support Grande's sales with range at least 75m. That source must came from a news organization. Politsi ( talk) 07:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Hm. She is more of a streaming artist, as you guys proMadonna claimed sales are over 335 millions according to Guinness World Record since at least 2015 editionbably know. It would be very hard to find some source, writing that she sold 75 million records. There's chart analysis website that claims that she sold nearly 50 million records in digital sales with her first three albums. The singles of her second album sold over 25 million records. But we know what happened with digital sales in the past years. However, Grande is the most streamed female on almost any streaming platform, and her certified units must be near 100 million, if not over. Soon she she's gonna have 20 top ten songs in UK, US, Australia, and Canada, and she's about to pass the Spice Girls and Rihanna for most number ones in UK. Shouldn't be that alone qualify her to be added on the list? Mirrored7 ( talk) 15:19, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
The figure must be 75 million or more? Sold or in units too? Mirrored7 ( talk) 16:10, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Harout. I just see that The Weeknd has 128m in certified sales. It means 75m that I've found for him is too low. I Will bring him to the 100m list with 100m claim. Thanks Politsi ( talk) 14:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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Update the Police's Australian sales as their 1980 album Zenyatta Mondatta was certified Platinum in 1981 for the sales of 50,000 [1] Omegaman2233 ( talk) 21:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
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Harout. Please remind me if I already bring up this issue him. There are a lot of reliable souce saying that he has sold 100m records. The statement not refferring him sold that records as producers but as a singer. What do you think? Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 06:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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MODERN TALKING sold 120 million records, too. Source: /info/en/?search=Modern_Talking#cite_note-SZ-7 Shohane ( talk) 22:49, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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Simon & Garfunkel disbanded in 2010 and Van Halen disbanded in 2020. MarinStoykov ( talk) 13:32, 9 January 2021 (UTC) I changed the disbandment year for Van Halen. As for Simon & Garfunkel, is there an actual source that they disbanded in 2010?-- Harout72 ( talk) 14:40, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Mariah's total certified sales exceeded 175 million. What threshold she should claim to put her within the 220 million mark ? @fidelovkurt
Hello Harout72, since Mariah sales exceeded 182 million, I share with you some links claiming 220 million: https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/entertainment/2016/12/13/grapevine-lionel-richie-mariah-carey-hit-road/95357936/ https://www.nottinghampost.com/whats-on/music-nightlife/mariah-carey-announces-two-uk-421175 https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/may/22/mariah-carey-photoshop-album-cover-armour https://vegasnews.com/163570/mariah-carey-announces-return-to-the-colosseum-at-caesars-palace-in-december-2017-with-all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you.html https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/global-icon-mariah-carey-announces-final-shows-of-1-to-infinity-her-first-two-year-las-vegas-residency-at-the-colosseum-at-caesars-palace-300329749.html https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/mariah-carey-poses-in-lingerie-for-terry-richardson-in-wonderland-9305890.html https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.mariah-carey-to-headline-in-baku-on-sunday.3L9mhnq904aGiQ8E6qOk4c.html https://www.bellevuereporter.com/business/singer-mariah-carey-makes-appearance-at-opening-of-bellevues-new-sugar-factory/ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/tour-news-at-last-mariah-carey-heads-to-nz/PE5OHAM3VJGNE5ALADA7BHEHEM/ https://theboombox.com/mariah-carey-facts/ Alherpo ( talk) 15:35, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
It shows his certifications are 165.1 million but counting, it's below (around 162 million). -- Apoxyomenus ( talk) 17:18, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Talking about MJ, I noticed in your file you didn't add the 500,000 certified units he got in Argentina for Thriller according to the official entity CAPIF. That's a different link from the regular database for Gold/Platinum but exists and it's from CAPIF itself. BTW, i've reviewed few countries in Madonna's case (not all yet) and there are some missing cert sales. I'll post them as soon as I can either to review/add them. -- Apoxyomenus ( talk) 20:37, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
As I pointed out above, I've reviewed some countries (not all yet). But at this time, these are one of them:
As I said, I didn't verify all countries and in my understanding, I've used the same publishers (CAPIF, AMPROFON etc) whom have been used with any other artist. Regards, -- Apoxyomenus ( talk) 00:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Each section of the 'Artists by reputed sales' portion of the article shows a picture collage of the artists featured in the table that's below the collage with all the statistics. In the '250 million or more records' section, Pink Floyd is missing from the collage at the top but listed in the table below. Is there any reason for this? If not, please fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicholas The Second ( talk • contribs) 07:12, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
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I might be wrong but I don't think anyone ever added the French Gold certification for the Police song Message in a Bottle for the sales of 500,000. [1] Bluebuglove ( talk) 03:44, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
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Could you add to the Police's Argentina sales the 3x Platinum certification which was given to the Best of Sting and the Police album. [1] Bluebuglove ( talk) 00:54, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Harout72 , with 234.5 million available certification for Jackson, it is time to update the sales claims of MJ to 400 Million. Even though the last few certifications updates are stream generated. What’s your opinion?.— Akhiljaxxn ( talk) 20:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
The point of rushing into upgrading MJ's sales figure or any other artists' sales figure is to make this list more accurate with its available Certification. While taking a detailed look at the claimed sales of the top of 5 artists ( The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, Elton John, and Madonna). I found the first two artists have been given more consideration considering the artists from the 50s and 60s have tons of million certifications that are missing considering there was no certification system during this period. That’s is far too liberal for the time period.
Let's start with The Beatles. Their first record was released in 1962. During this time RIAA, the biggest market of music sales, and the Beatles were already established. 217.2 Million out of 282.6 of The Beatles certifications from RIAA which is 77% of their total certifications. Their second-biggest market UK which is also their homeland only started the certification system in 1973. Their available certifications from the UK is 23 Million which is slightly more than 8% of their total certifications. Their third-biggest market in Canada where the certification system started in 1975. In Canada, their available certification is 14.4 million which is only 4% of their total available certifications. Considering the 89% of the total certifications of the Beatles are from these three countries. 77% out of 89 of these from a country where the certification system already established shows that this difference of 317.4 (600-282.6) millions of "missing" certifications is completely "wrong".
When it comes to Elvis Presley, his debut album was released in 1956. Before that, he only released four to five songs. RIAA has established in 1958 after four years of Presleys first song release. and 199M out of his 227.3 million total available certifications are from the USA. Which is almost 88% of his total available certifications. Presley's available certifications in the UK is 16.4 Million. Which is more than just 7% of his total available certifications. Since 95% of his total available certifications are from these two countries and one of these two countries had set up a certification system just after 4-year of Presley's career indicating there is no way he is missing another 100 Million from the USA or 372.7 Million (600-227.3) from World Wide.
The other problem that I see in the list is the claimed sales of Elton John and Madonna are the same even though John has 20.4 Million more available certifications than Madonna. And his first charted record in 1969, 13 years Before Madonna. The math and logic are way off here. This entire page is seemingly in need of a revamp.— Akhiljaxxn ( talk) 20:08, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Harout, I do not understand how my logic and comparison are flawed. The Beatles have 217.250 million certified units from the RIAA, which is almost 77% of the total available certified sales. RIAA represents only 22% of overall global sales. They have 23 Million certifications from the UK which is slightly more than 8% of their total available certifications. UK/BPI represents 8.5% of overall global sales. Their third-biggest market in Canada, where their available certification is 14.4 million which is only 4% of their total available certifications. Canada represents 2.1% of overall global sales. 89% of the total available certifications of the Beatles are from these three countries which represent 32.6%of overall global sales. Like you mentioned above all bands/artists from the US, UK, Australia, Canada sell much of their records in English-speaking countries than in other markets. Coincidentally These three countries are English-speaking countries and the primary markets of the Beatles. If you minus the RIAA certification of the Beatles from their total available certification, considering RIAA was already there before the start of their career, the available certifications from the rest of the market will be 65.35 Million. That’s the math. Math does not lie. Even if we consider your unsourced opinion of the Beatles selling three times more than the math adds up to be from the rest of the market where there was no certification system before they first started charting, the available certification will be 65.35X3=196.05 and their total available certification will be 196.05+217.250=413.3M Million. So the difference of 317.4 (600-282.6) millions of "missing" certifications is simply not justifiable.— Akhiljaxxn ( talk) 19:50, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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I was reading this file for The Police's certification and just so happen to see that their single "De Doo Doo Doo De Da Da Da" was classified under albums instead of singles, anyway to 400,000 to the Police's UK sales to fox this mistake. Bluebuglove ( talk) 07:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
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Could you add the Police's Grestest Hits album certification which went 2x Platinum in December 2020. [1] Bluebuglove ( talk) 18:06, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Harout. I finished four more countries. Please see in my sandbox (version: February 1, 2021). Pinging @ 88marcus: for a " third review" if he kindly re-verity Brazil's case if is available/or wants. Last time, I talked about at least 100,000 units missing in Argentina, but seems is above 1 million if everything is correct, also pinging @ Bluesatellite: if he can double-check info. Sincerely, -- Apoxyomenus ( talk) 01:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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No one ever added the UK silver certification for the Beatle's Penny Lane song and the UK platinum certification for the Beatle's Let it Be album, both were certified in November 2020. [1] Zenyattasting ( talk) 03:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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One other Beatle certification you forgot to add was for the SGT Pepper album going 18× Platinum in the UK in August 2020. [1] Zenyattasting ( talk) 06:11, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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The Police's albums Zenyatta Mondatta and Ghost in the Machine 1990 CD reissues were both certified Gold in 1991 and it has not been added (Zenyatta and Ghost were both originally vinyl with Zenyatta certified Platinum and Ghost certified Gold both in 1981). Click the link to the French certifications archive and click on the artist finder until you find the Police and you will see the two 1991 Gold certifications for the two album reissues [1] also this link is evidence for 1990 reissue. [2] [3] Zenyattasting ( talk) 05:28, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Madonna claimed sales are over 335 millions according to Guinness World Record since at least 2015 edition. Those 335 million record sales were also the same claimed by her old record label Warner when in 2009 they released another greateast hits album called "Celebration". Certainly her sales are already over 350 million but without any updates from official sources we cannot put that here still we can certainly say 335-350 million as she already released 2 studio albums, a few singles and other live albums since and her catalog keeps selling. Here is the link for that 335 million records nunber: https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-female-recording-artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.94.43.146 ( talk • contribs) November 28, 2020
Actually there are so many reliable source for 335 million sales figure:
Her certified sales are increased can we use the 335 million figure? There are so many reliable source for this figure and actually Madonna has sold more than Elton John can we put Madonna first? You are all so knowledgeable about sales informations you should know Madonna has sold more than Elton John i guess Navyiconer ( talk) 15:09, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Harout. I want to raise her sales to 149m. But, what do you think at this moment? She has pass 150m in her certified sales. Thanks Politsi ( talk) 04:53, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Recently I saw Canada, Sweden and Norway has changed. Then, it is more than 1% of total certification. How about raising 1990 to 65% and 2015 to 82%? 71.97 and 90.95 is actual calculation. It seems 3% for each year and 0.8% without round-off. -- 221.144.84.164 ( talk) 05:11, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Must Add new certification for Lady gaga in switzerland for chormatica and shallow and artpop album and the soundtrack a star is born and always remember us this way 5.89.204.151 ( talk) 16:40, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Didn't Billboard already stated way back in 2021 that Céline already sold 250 million albums worldwide? Why is she still not included on the bracket? Billboard itself is a reliable source. Although she is one of the most undercertified artists ever, she needs to get the recognition she deserves.
Link: https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/columns/pop/7776996/the-illustrious-career-of-celine-dion Loibird90 ( talk) 15:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Billbiard already stated in 2017 that Céline already sold 250 million albums. Billboard is a reliable source like what this page says, she needs to be put on the same bracket as Madonna and Rihanna! Loibird90 ( talk) 15:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Celine Dion's sales are obviously undercertified. If you're saying artists with claimed figures that are closest to artists' available certified units is a rule for this page, how about Madonna? Her certified sales based on this page is around 178m, yet the claimed sales is at 300m? Are those figures close to each other for you? And same goes for some artists on the list. All I'm saying is that, Billboard is already an enough reliable source. Loibird90 ( talk) 13:57, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Also, I see Pink Floyd is listed in the bracket "250m or more" when they only have 121m certified units.
While Celine Dion with 132m certified units is still in the 200m bracket? Despite Billboard already stated she sold 250m by 2017?
It doesn't make sense. It seems like the rule only applies to Celine then?
Both Pink Floyd and Céline Dion has the same claimed sales. But Celine has higher certified units than them. The difference is that Pink Floyd is place higher than her?
She should be placed in that bracket then if that's the case. Loibird90 ( talk) 14:06, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Pink Floyd is listed in the '250m or more' with only 121m certified units wouldn't that make it more questionable? And the fact that you said, there was no certification system around the time Pink Floyd started to chart, that makes it even more intriguing? 121m is way far from 250m to even be considered on the '250m or more bracket'. Loibird90 ( talk) 07:08, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Plus, Madonna with only 178m certified units is placed on the same bracket as well despite claiming over 300m. Does both numbers seems close to you to even consider that? That's like almost same gap with Céline (around 120m gap of certified and claimed). Loibird90 ( talk) 07:15, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
How much certified sales would it take then for her to be placed on the "250m or more"? since Billboard itself is inflating Celines sales then. Loibird90 ( talk) 23:15, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Falling Into You certification in the US finally got an update. Its now 12x Platinum. Update it please. Loibird90 ( talk) 13:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Celine Dion receives new RIAA Certifications. Please update her certified units. Loibird90 ( talk) 13:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Isn't it about time we put Drake on the first list? he has more than 300 million total certified units, more than anyone else on the list, including everyone in the top list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.128.2.98 ( talk) 14:53, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
why they are not in the list? they sold over 75 million 5.89.204.151 ( talk) 13:04, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
On the Anghami page (the most important musical medium in the Middle East) and on the Celebraty Net Worth page it is specified that the Colombian singer has sold more than 125 million discs mixed with albums and singles.If we consider that Laundry Service sold 15 million copies, SHAKIRA sold 1.2 million, The oral fixation collection sold between them 12 million copies, Pies descalzos sold 5 million copies. MTV Unplugged sold 2 million copies. ¿Donde están los ladrones? sold 6-8 million copies. Sale el sol sold 4 million copies. She wolf sold 2 million copies. El dorado sold 2 million total copies. A total of 50 million sales that is adding the sales of singles of Hips don't lie with 12 million solid sales. Whenever Wherever with 10 million, Waka Waka with 10 million sales, Beautiful Liar sold 7 million sales, Torture sold more than 6 million copies. Try everything sold between 7-9 million copies. She wolf sold 7 million records. Can't remember to forget you sold 7 million records. Lalala sold 5 million copies. And blackmail sold 8 million total sales. underneath your clothes sold 4 million sales and Rabiosa sold 5 million copies. In total, it sold about 139 million records. That taking as sources pages like Billboard and reliable sources without counting streaming.
I think we should raise Shakira's position. I wait for an answer. Alejandro Ortiz 15 ( talk) 20:44, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Alejandro Ortiz
This page doesn’t differentiate between albums and singles or digital and physical sales. This means 10-20 streams equal an entire album. The price and durability of the album fare outweighs a handfull of stream. This makes Rihanna seems as a more successful artist than for example Elvis or The Beatles. Being a history major with in-depth knowledge of music history I can assure you it is not the case. But this is perhaps not even relevant to discuss. It is just a fact that digital and physical sales are incomparable and I think this page should show this. Could we split the list in two? The physical and the digital era? Friislund79 ( talk) 18:32, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Tupac have certified sales of 200,000 units in the Netherlands in which they include:
(Albums) Greatest Hits: Platinum (100,000) R U Still Down? [Remember Me]: Gold (50,000) (Singles) Changes: Gold (50,000)
Also just in case if you wanna check it by yourself. You can go and type "2 Pac" in the NVPI database.
Not to mention if you also type "2 Pac" in the IFPI Denmark database, you'll find the certification for the album "All Eyez on Me" certified Platinum (20,000) so that raises the total to 155,000 units.
Hope whoever reads this has a great day. Moh8213 ( talk) 17:09, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
U welcome lol also forgot Pac has certification in France for his Greatest Hits album, certified Gold (100,000) in 2002. Moh8213 ( talk) 08:29, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
What happened to the references listed that Mariah Carey's records of 220 million. there was tons of references and the discussion vanished.
File:Pink_Floyd_-_all_members.jpg this one is from their wikipedia page.
Hello, The data that has been used in this article is completely wrong and based on inaccurate estimates. For example, there is no way that Rihanna has already sold more than Mariah Carey. I think we should change this page to match this: https://chartmasters.org/2020/05/cspc-mass-update-streaming/. This website accurately analyzed artists by their album sales, single sales, streaming, and more to compile correct sales numbers. If you click on any of the artists in the list, there is a detailed page with many sub-pages that analyzes every component of an artist's sales and describes the calculations they make. These numbers are accurate and also make a lot of sense. Thanks
Céline Dion has received new certifications in Australia! Loibird90 ( talk) 15:11, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
https://australian-charts.com/forum.asp?todo=viewthread&id=58525 Loibird90 ( talk) 00:47, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Well didn't ARIA stop making new certifications visible to the public since September 2020 but that site continues to post updates. You can see even the newer ones everything is accurate. Loibird90 ( talk) 04:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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Artist: Ariana Grande
Country / Market: United States
Period active: 2011-present
Release-year of first charted record: 2013
Genre: Pop / R&B
Total certified units: 121.14 million (sources: official websites of music recording certification systems, already referenced in article)
Claimed sales: 81 million ( https://www.thethings.com/how-ariana-grande-earns-spends-her-150-million-net-worth/) DriesTaeymans ( talk) 11:50, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Luke Bryan sold 75 million. Here is the source https://popculture.com/country-music/news/luke-bryan-shares-graphic-video-horrifying-fishing-accident/ Thank you 103.153.82.41 ( talk) 08:45, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I have not yet found a reliable source of Ariana Grande's claimed sales, but RIAA has just updated some of her plaques and boosted her to 85 million. She could reach 100 million RIAA units if her entire catalogue is updated, so there might be coming some articles on that soon (just like when Nicki Minaj hit 100 million certified RIAA units). By the way, this update includes Side To Side ft. Nicki Minaj, which can be added to Nicki's total certified sales! -- DriesTaeymans ( talk) 21:47, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Dolly Parton has claimed sales of 100 million records sold worldwide. The best (in my opinion) and most recent source for this is from IMG Licensing who are currently licensing Parton's name and image for her new perfume, among other products. ( https://www.imglicensing.com/client-portfolio/dolly-parton/) The RIAA even awarded her a plaque for sales of 100 million records in 2014, although most news sources reported this as 100 million albums, the plaque itself states 100 million records worldwide. (Parton pictured with the plaque at this source: https://www.hometowncountrymusic.com/dolly-parton-celebrates-100-million-records-sold/)
Here are 14 sources for her claimed sales of 100 million records:
Now, I know that an artist such as Parton who has been releasing music since the 1960s must have 20 percent of her claimed sales backed up by certifications. In recent years Parton's certifications have increased enough to verify 20 percent of her claimed 100 million. Her total verifiable records from certifications is 21,520,000.
The breakdown of this is:
Further breakdown:
RIAA 16,550,000
Title / Highest award / No. of units / Date of certification / Type
BPI 3,900,000
Title / Highest award / No. of units / Date of certification / Type
Music Canada 1,070,000
Title / Highest award / No. of units / Date of certification / Type
New Zealand 15,000
Title / Highest award / No. of units / Date of certification / Type
Since Parton's claimed sales of 100 million records needs to be verified by at least a minimum of 20% certifications (20,000,000) and her current verifiable certifications show a total of 21,520,000 (the required 20%, plus an additional 1.5 million), I see no reason to not add her to this list.
Thanks! Benjichilders ( talk) 21:16, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Her australian certification at higher. She got last Week 3x platinum for Always remember us this way in Australia And she has more sales. She sold over 150 milion. Just look the certification — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.153.132.57 ( talk) 11:56, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
https://mena24tv.com/en/2020/09/08/alicia-keys-uses-family-photo-to-encourage-people-to-spread-love/ Harout. What do you think? Thanks Politsi ( talk) 21:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I was reverted by @ Harout72: for putting the pictures in the first section in list order (i.e. the Beatles first, Rhianna last); however, the revert was technically correct, as the hidden comment says to put in the order of certified sales. I missed the nuance of the comment and assumed the list was in the same order. In any case - I think having the list and photos in different order is irrational and confusing. After all, unless you are editing, you cannot see the hidden comment, and no one is going to see the explanation. But more than that, what possible reason could there be to have the two different standards? The two should match. This is not an argument about which measurement (claimed vs certified) is more important, but rather about uniformity. Based upon the high number of archives, I assume this may have been discussed before, but I think it's time to re-examine. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 13:33, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/country/6693439/alabama-southern-drawl-interview Harout. In 2015, According to Billboard. Alabama only sold 70 million records. Their major certified sales only in 2 countries and only 48m. I think we should put them out of the list. What do you think? Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 19:40, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/bring-the-noise/seven-child-music-stars/zk66jhv Harout. In case if Cyrus enough already to be in the list. Can we use this source to support 75m for her? I'm not sure enough. Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 08:01, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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Add 2 million to Lionel Richie, David Bowie and the Police's US sales as their songs appeared on the Wedding Singer soundtrack which was certified double platinum in 2003. [1] Stevehurleywoof ( talk) 21:48, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello Harout71, hope you doing well. I just discovered that Linkin Park has a total certified sales of 100,000 units in Argentina in which they include:
Hybrid Theory: Platinum (60,000) Reanimation: Gold (20,000) Meteora: Gold (20,000)
If you want to check it out you can found them here in the archived database of CAPIF.
Thanks :) Moh8213 ( talk) 12:39, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome. I'd like if you'd re-check their total sales in Brazil, to me it came up 645,000 units tho I could be wrong. Hope you check that up too, thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 22:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
I've just checked it out and ngl you did a pretty good job arranging it, tho I found one needs an update and one's missing.
In Spain, the single In the End is certified Gold (25,000) in 2017 and here's a source: https://www.elportaldemusica.es/single/linkin-park-in-the-end
And in Denmark the album Meteora is certified 3× Platinum (60,000) in 2017 and here's a source: http://www.hitlisten.nu/default.asp?w=30&y=2017&list=a40
Other than that I didn't found anything missing. Moh8213 ( talk) 10:06, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh forget something, their 5th album Living Things was certified Gold (7,500) in New Zealand, it wasn't added in your files. Thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 13:51, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
the american rock band the doors in Italy collected 215,000 certified sales and not 170,000. The Doors debut album 50,000, Morrison Hotel 25,000, The very best of (2007) 80,000, Light My Fire single 25,000, Riders On The Storm single 35,000, instead in France it certifies almost 3,000,000 million and not 1,900,000 since only the album L.A. Woman certifies 945,800 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 13:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
sorry because this source https://www.infodisc.fr/Ventes_Albums_Tout_Temps.php?debut=150 says L.A. Woman in France sold 945,800 units and not 600,000. 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 11:58, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
https://www.thefader.com/2018/06/29/drake-most-certified-digital-singles-history/amp Harout. His certified sales already hit at 360m. I think it is time for him to enter the 200m club. I have no reliable source to support it yet. But we could use this source from a magazine. I think it's okay to use temporary for his 200m claim. Is it right? Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 12:23, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi, The Rolling Stones have sold over 240 million albums worldwide and not 200 million https://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2014/12/30/with-touring-still-a-focal-point-the-rolling-stones-acdc-and-u2-fight-for-top-honors-in-rock-and-roll-history/?sh=1c10ef79a569 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 13:09, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I noticed under The Doors certification of total sales 80 million records sold worldwide that uses a link extrapolated from the film directed by Tom Di Cillo elaborated in 2008 and published in the cinema in January 2009 an interview with Ray Manzarek in 2010 that states that the Doors at that time had more than 80 million sales in the world, the problem is that the link and the interview are 12 years old, I don't think it is appropriate to keep a link that old since the Doors have totaled 100 million record sales worldwide. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-22604798 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ray-manzarek-founding-member-of-the-doors-dies-at-74/ The Doors total available certified 48.4 million, but have total sales of 80 million records sold worldwide. Keeping in mind that various artists have very low and lower certified sales than The Doors, but they have total sales of 100 million records sold worldwide, it seems to me a contradiction, for example:
Bob Dylan total available certified 46,6 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Def Leopard total available certified 42,6 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Cher total available certified 42,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Genesis total available certified 40,3 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
David Bowie total available certified 38,4 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Stevie Wonder total available certified 37,7 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
James Taylor total available certified 36,5 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Olivia Newton-John total available certified 35,9 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Tina Turner total available certified 35,3 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Linda Ronstadt total available certified 33,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
The Beach Boys total available certified 32,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Donna Summer total available certified 31,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
The Who total available certified 28,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Barry White total available certified 22,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million) 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 01:09, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi I found this source directly from the official site and it seems reliable what you say. https://thedoors.com/news/the-doors-x-roxy-collection-has-landed 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 20:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks to everyone for the help. 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 15:13, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1425521/Luke-Bryan-children-does-country-singer-Luke-Bryan-have-children-wife-evg Harout. I think there is something wrong with the source for Bryan from Fox2now that I add for him last week. It seems the contain for his "75m claim" is missing. If you also see something wrong with that source. I will put the source from Daily Express for temporary. Thanks Politsi ( talk) 10:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Harout. Need your help if you have a time to collected the girl group's certified sales. Just in case if they able again to be on the list. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-33816413 Thanks Politsi ( talk) 09:59, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I found this link where it indicates that The Doors soundtrack album of Oliver Stone's film is certified gold in Spain with 50,000 copies, so the total sales in Spain alone should be 350,000 and not 300,000. http://www.mediafire.com/file/x263f6daopkswo8/Spanish_certifications_for_1979-1990.pdf/file 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 15:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
ok, I would simply like to know if the Link I put is true or not, since it bears the words 1991, The Doors (B.S.O. DE LA PELÌCULA) WEA certified gold, while the one you indicated to me only brings: The Doors debut album certified gold, with 50,000 units, Morrison Hotel Platinum, with 100,000 units, THERE. Woman platinum, with 100,000 units The Best of the doors gold, with 50,000 units, but missing as I told you The Doors (B.S.O. DE LA PELÌCULA) WEA certified gold.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/x263f6daopkswo8/Spanish_certifications_for_1979-1990.pdf/file 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 16:05, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Her face is first in line as one of the best selling artists of all time. This is NOT true. Just because in recent times they are able to tabulate digital downloads, it doesn't mean she a best seller. And even using the digital downloads, they are SINGLES, not albums. On the RIAA website for the US (her biggest market), she is listed at #106 in album sales (behind Jimmy Buffet). She does sell singles, but to count singles the same as albums is bizarre and misleading and makes this page inaccurate (basically useless). Calling everything a "unit" and weighing everything equally is not equal. Wikipedia really needs to check this. This is misleading the general public and should clarify that she's a singles seller maybe (like the RIAA does), but albums sales that are about 10 times more valuable (#106 in her top market) does not put at the same level as some of the others. I love Rihanna, nothing against her, she's definitely one of my favorite artists, this is just simply inaccurate and definitely misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:483f:cd59:925:d18d:1cec:2921 ( talk) 14:28, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
I see there is a raise of certified sales from two act in the 90m Club in recent years. The Carpenters (46m. 1969) and Earth, Wind, & Fire (43.8m. 1971). Both of them have a high certified sales for old artists. I Will bring them back to 100m club. Politsi ( talk) 11:39, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Their music chart begin since 1975 and with more than 64m certified sales in five different countries. They are definitely should be at the 100m club. I will bring them also. Politsi ( talk) 12:07, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Meat Loaf and Foreigner started their music chart since 1977. And their certified sales are impressive. Meat Loaf. 45.3m and Foreigner 50m. I will bring them go inside 100m club. Politsi ( talk) 11:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
This band music chart since 1978 and they have more than 64m in certified sales. They are definitely should be at the 100m club. I will bring them also. Politsi ( talk) 12:14, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Begin his music career and since his death. His certified sales has been raised close to 53m. We should bring him back to 100m club. Politsi ( talk) 12:17, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Cash music chart begin since 1956 and he has close to 32m in certified sales. He has a better certified units than Barry White, The Who, and Donna Summer who are younger than him. I will bring Cash to 100m club. Politsi ( talk) 12:00, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 14:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Harout. We should considered this band to be out of the list. I feel some relief after seeing Barry White's name removed and I think the same situation should go to The Who since they are not reach 30m certified. Let's get them out also. Politsi ( talk) 03:06, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Apologies for being inexperienced here, but I believe Queen should be moved up into the >250 million section. The current source being used to cite Queen's claimed sales as 200 million is an article from the Herald of Glasgow published back in 2015. Since then, numerous credible sources have claimed that Queen has sold 300 million records worldwide, some of which including:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/simonthompson/2018/12/10/queens-bohemian-rhapsody-is-officially-the-worlds-most-streamed-song/?sh=fd28c7cc1f0a (4th paragraph down)
https://www.ocregister.com/2018/11/02/heres-how-the-song-bohemian-rhapsody-became-queens-biggest-hit/ (2nd paragraph down)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/rock-you-queen-double-earnings-6003124
300 million in claimed sales would fall right in line with their 166 million certified sales, especially considering their first song charted in 1973. Led Zeppelin, which by all means is comparable time-wise, has 141 million certified sales, but their claimed sales figures are 300 million. According to the sources provided above, Queen should be roughly around those numbers.
I'm just interested in what sort of consensus should be reached regarding whether the above cited sources warrants Queen be moved up into the 250 million or more section. (I apologize for being ignorant on alot of this, I've just started editing today and I'm still learning the ropes)
ChimChamIt'sAScam05 ( talk) 22:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Using 300m claim for Queen is not right at this time since most of their current new certified sales come from streaming. 250m-200m is the best sales for them now. If there is no complaint within the next days. I will put Queen to 250m club by using that source while still keep their 200m sales. Politsi ( talk) 12:24, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Well, I think we should considered other source which is more clear and better. As someone who's responsible to make many artist to be place in the list by using a prestigious reliable source. I feel responsible to make sure that all source must be clear and prestigious. Let's find another source or wait until Queen hit 175-180m in certified sales. Politsi ( talk) 15:04, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
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Eminem and EdSheeran have to put in the 250+mio List
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Ariana Grande could be considered part of this page as one of the best-selling music artists because she has sold over 80 million certified units. Here is evidence to support this figure from the RIAA website: Ariana Grande total RIAA Units Ariana Grande Digital Singles units Ariana Grande RIAA album units
The first link above shows all her RIAA certifications (albums and singles) and together this sums up to the total of over 80 million units. The second link is the amount of digital singles units she has sold and the third link is the total album units she has sold. 108.34.228.150 ( talk) 03:46, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Hey Harout, hope you doing well, I'd like if you can send me the file for The Black Eyed Peas, thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 15:44, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
I've checked the file and here are the stuff that either needs an update or missing from your file.
https://pro-musicabr.org.br/home/certificados/?busca_artista=elephunk
Other than that so far I haven't found anything else that seems incorrect. Thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 20:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh that's great, though the 15,000 (Gold) and 30,000 (Platinum) certifications are for the domestic artists. For the international artists (such as the Black Eyed Peas) certifications are 25,000 (Gold) and 50,000 (Platinum). so the album Monkey Business is with 50,000 not 30,000. Moh8213 ( talk) 22:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Cool tho I don't think, it will make any difference but the album Elephunk was certified gold with sales of 23,541 in Finland https://www.ifpi.fi/tutkimukset-ja-tilastot/kulta-ja-platinalevyt/artistit/black+eyed+peas/ you can add them in your files if you want. Also have you forgot about the Mexican certifications or what? Lol Moh8213 ( talk) 00:19, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh shot, new discoveries. Apparently, there is a remix of the song Meet Me Halfway called Meet Me Halfway (Richard Vision Solmatic Remix) the remix is certified Platinum (40,000) in Spain and it's already included in your file but I've just found out that the regular of the song is certified Gold (20,000) and here are sources https://www.elportaldemusica.es/single/the-black-eyed-peas-meet-me-halfway https://www.elportaldemusica.es/single/the-black-eyed-peas-meet-me-halfway-richard-vision-solmatic-remix I've also found out their album Monkey Business & Elephunk was certified Platinum (120,000) & (130,000) in Italy and here are sources from Music & Media & la Republica https://web.archive.org/web/20140106032032/http://www.musicaedischi.it/mdonline/7046.pdf https://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica/archivio/repubblica/2006/07/03/in-200-mila-san-giovanni-il-luglio.html Moh8213 ( talk) 01:07, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Hey Harout, Apparently, Black Eyed Peas' single Mamacita is recently certified 2× Platinum (40,000) in Poland, along with their previous certifications: Monkey Business Platinum (40,000) in 2007 and The E.N.D. Platinum (20,000) in 2010, their Polish certified sales is raised to 100,000. Moh8213 ( talk) 20:38, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Are the albums sold only albums or are singles also counted? Because in that case Shakira has sold more than 50 million albums, said by Billboard and if that we put together the sale of Hips don't lie and Waka Waka that each one says 10 million sales go to 70 million and adding the other song sales. I say that your sales can go much higher. Nice to know if you can help me and / or correct me. Link: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/267379/shakira-the-she-wolf-billboard-cover-story AlexanderShakifan29 ( talk) 17:15, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello Harout, I'd like if you can send me the files for Eminem & Tupac, thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 12:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Isn't the 8 Mile Soundtrack album part of Eminem's sales?, cause if so, Em have lots of certifications from that album Eminem certification in Australia needs minor updates which includes The Eminem Show certified 2× Diamond (1,000,000) in 2021 and here's source: https://www.aria.com.au/charts/hip-hop-r-and-b-albums-chart/2021-04-19 Eminem's recent album Music to Be Murdered By is certified Gold (35,000) and here's source: https://www.aria.com.au/charts/hip-hop-r-and-b-albums-chart/2021-04-19
Though it's currently not available on the database but Eminem's album Recovery is certified 7× Platinum (560,000) in Canada, I remember seeing it once on the database but for some reason it's not available now. But here's a Neilsen Year-End music report Canada 2019 PDF https://static.billboard.com/files/pdfs/NIELSEN_2019_YEARENDreportCANADA.pdf and if you go to page 41 there you will find Top 10 best selling albums and Recovery is at number 4 with 613,000 units.
With Tupac, his single California Love certified Gold (400,000) in the UK and here's source: https://www.bpi.co.uk/award/13643-4153-1 though in your files it's listed as Silver (200,000) Other than that I didn't find anything that seems incorrect. Thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 20:14, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh alright I understand, again thanks for your time. Moh8213 ( talk) 01:15, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome for the Mariah edit. I might be wrong but I think Eminem's album The Marshall Mathers LP is certified 2× Platinum (160,000) in the Netherlands, according to the NVPI database, the album was first certified Gold and then Platinum in 2000 and again certified another Platinum in 2001. What do you think? Moh8213 ( talk) 17:14, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Hey Harout, it seems that Mariah Carey's total Belgian sales is 225,000 with Music Box certified 2× Platinum (100,000) in 1995, Daydream certified Platinum (50,000) in 1995, Butterfly certified Gold (25,000) in 1997, her compilation album #1's certified Gold (25,000) in 1998 (I think it was certified Platinum in some later year though I'm not sure) and Rainbow certified Gold (25,000) in 1999 Moh8213 ( talk) 13:50, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Oh and one more thing, since the album Rainbow was released in November 1999, the correct unit of the German certification is 300,000 not 500,000. Thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 19:49, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
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Harout. There is a source claimed this band sold 80m records. I will bring the source to the list. Is it possible for them to have sold 80m records? Thanks Politsi ( talk) 23:05, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
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Update the Police's Australian sales from 407,000 to 827,000 as the Police's album 1986 album Every Breath You Take went 6x Platinum for the sales of 420,000 [1] Weberdexter666 ( talk) 01:05, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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Update the Police's Australian sales from 407,000 to 827,000 as the Police's album 1986 album Every Breath You Take went 6x Platinum for the sales of 420,000 [1] Weberdexter666 ( talk) 02:13, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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Update the Police's Australian sales as their albums Outlandos D'amore went Gold for the sales of 35,000 and Regatta de Blanc went Platinum for the sales of 70,000 which as adds ups to 105,000 sales altogether, also update the Police's Belgian sales as Regatta also went Gold in Belgium for the sales of 25,000. [1] Weberdexter666 ( talk) 23:33, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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Modern Talking sold over 120 million records, Depeche Mode over 100 million records, Pet Shop Boys other 100 million records just to say few. All bands not even mentioned. I wonder how your "premium" and wise editors can miss those astronomical sums. so much for protected articles feature :-D 93.34.92.26 ( talk) 11:28, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
The year 1975 probably refers to her second solo album Acid Queen. But her first single in the charts—together with Ike—was A Fool In Love. The couple began hitting the charts in 1960 with "A Fool in Love," and notched charting singles throughout the '60s [...]. ( allmusic.com) -- FoolInLove ( talk) 14:40, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Harout. Now she has 79.8m in certified sales. Can I move her to 100m list now? Thanks Politsi ( talk) 03:49, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Okay thanks. And by the way "Daily Mail" has Alicia Key's 75m claim since months ago... Politsi ( talk) 15:33, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8708069/Alicia-Keys-beams-alongside-husband-Swizz-Beatz-two-sons.html lets used it only for temporarily. Thanks Politsi ( talk) 03:12, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians, I was about to edit it but I thought it's worth discussing. I believe Beyonce's US certification is a little bit inflated. I've just calculated and it came 59.83m, I think the reason for this is that they've confused the "Video longform" certification with the "Album" or "Single" certification, because they're different criteria. So what you think about it? Moh8213 ( talk) 00:18, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Okay u proved me wrong lol anyway, thank u for ur time. Moh8213 ( talk) 15:57, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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We have to enter a new artist and I'd love to edit it
Harout. Several days ago, we failed to put Alicia Keys at the list because like I said, Daily Mail is banned to be used on wikipedia. But Keys already has nearly 75m in certified sales. Even 75m claim is too low for her. If a source directly come from Daily Mail is Banned. Then I think we could use this online news portal https://oltnews.com/alicia-keys-shines-alongside-husband-swizz-beatz-and-their-two-sons-2 oltnews.com is quite usable only for temporary. The source still came out from Daily Mail. But at least now, it's not using directly from Daily Mail website. What do you think? Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 03:24, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Harout. I see that Young's U.S certified sales is quite impressive for a very old artists like him. Is it possible to put him to the list with 75m claim. There is no newspaper yet writing about his sales but Entertainment Tonight Canada from Global Television Network currently put his sales at 75 million / https://etcanada.com/photos/686186/after-the-gold-rush-at-50-12-things-you-didnt-know-about-neil-youngs-classic-album/#image-686244 the article is very good. It's not a newspaper but at least it's a part of news organization. I think we should put this legendary singer to the list by using that source if his certified sales able make him go inside. Thanks Politsi ( talk) 04:20, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Why is Nana Mouskouri not included in this list? It is claimed that she has sold 350 million albums https://www.neomagazine.com/2018/07/forever-young-with-nana-mouskouri-the-biggest-selling-female-artist-of-all-time/#:~:text=With%20over%20200%20albums%20released,female%20artist%20of%20all%20time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:A82A:EC00:2CA2:267E:CFC1:7AB9 ( talk) 01:29, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Harout, what do you think if I move her to 120m club with 120m sales? Thanks Politsi ( talk) 11:44, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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Update the Police's Australian sales as their first 3 albums (Outlandos, Regatta and Zenyatta) all went Platinum for the sales of 50,000 each in 1981. [1] Limpdudemandurst6 ( talk) 17:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Harout. Is it possible for this Canadian singer to be on the list with 75m claim? Because I see his digital certified in U.S only is high (nearly 75m). And if possible, until now the only source available to support his 75m records claim is come from Black Entertaintment Television (BET)/Via Com website and I think it is usable temporarily to use since BET is a part of Via Com. What do you think? Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 20:46, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Need your help also to check if Cyrus already able to enter the list with 77m claim. https://thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/2019/08/11/iam-hemsworth-and-miley-cyrus-announce-split/ Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 12:16, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Billboard and Forbes have reported Spears has sold nearly 150 million albums worldwide; however, this page demonstrates she has sold 100 million. [1]
Hello, I already opened a talk page about it, but it got deleted I guess? Is there any way she could get on that list too? I'm pretty sure her digital sales must be well over 60 million, and her certified sales are for sure by over 100 million worldwide, including streaming of course. With over 15 million units, she is one of the best-selling artists in the UK. She also has high certified sales in the US, Canada, Australia, Germany, Norway and Brazil. It seems strange to me because the number of certified sales worldwide, as well as the top tens and number ones, could be compared to many artists that are on the list. Would be cool if I could get an answer. Thanks. x Mirrored7 ( talk) 03:50, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Please find a reliable source to support Grande's sales with range at least 75m. That source must came from a news organization. Politsi ( talk) 07:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Hm. She is more of a streaming artist, as you guys proMadonna claimed sales are over 335 millions according to Guinness World Record since at least 2015 editionbably know. It would be very hard to find some source, writing that she sold 75 million records. There's chart analysis website that claims that she sold nearly 50 million records in digital sales with her first three albums. The singles of her second album sold over 25 million records. But we know what happened with digital sales in the past years. However, Grande is the most streamed female on almost any streaming platform, and her certified units must be near 100 million, if not over. Soon she she's gonna have 20 top ten songs in UK, US, Australia, and Canada, and she's about to pass the Spice Girls and Rihanna for most number ones in UK. Shouldn't be that alone qualify her to be added on the list? Mirrored7 ( talk) 15:19, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
The figure must be 75 million or more? Sold or in units too? Mirrored7 ( talk) 16:10, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Harout. I just see that The Weeknd has 128m in certified sales. It means 75m that I've found for him is too low. I Will bring him to the 100m list with 100m claim. Thanks Politsi ( talk) 14:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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Update the Police's Australian sales as their 1980 album Zenyatta Mondatta was certified Platinum in 1981 for the sales of 50,000 [1] Omegaman2233 ( talk) 21:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
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Harout. Please remind me if I already bring up this issue him. There are a lot of reliable souce saying that he has sold 100m records. The statement not refferring him sold that records as producers but as a singer. What do you think? Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 06:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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MODERN TALKING sold 120 million records, too. Source: /info/en/?search=Modern_Talking#cite_note-SZ-7 Shohane ( talk) 22:49, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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Simon & Garfunkel disbanded in 2010 and Van Halen disbanded in 2020. MarinStoykov ( talk) 13:32, 9 January 2021 (UTC) I changed the disbandment year for Van Halen. As for Simon & Garfunkel, is there an actual source that they disbanded in 2010?-- Harout72 ( talk) 14:40, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Mariah's total certified sales exceeded 175 million. What threshold she should claim to put her within the 220 million mark ? @fidelovkurt
Hello Harout72, since Mariah sales exceeded 182 million, I share with you some links claiming 220 million: https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/entertainment/2016/12/13/grapevine-lionel-richie-mariah-carey-hit-road/95357936/ https://www.nottinghampost.com/whats-on/music-nightlife/mariah-carey-announces-two-uk-421175 https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/may/22/mariah-carey-photoshop-album-cover-armour https://vegasnews.com/163570/mariah-carey-announces-return-to-the-colosseum-at-caesars-palace-in-december-2017-with-all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you.html https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/global-icon-mariah-carey-announces-final-shows-of-1-to-infinity-her-first-two-year-las-vegas-residency-at-the-colosseum-at-caesars-palace-300329749.html https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/mariah-carey-poses-in-lingerie-for-terry-richardson-in-wonderland-9305890.html https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.mariah-carey-to-headline-in-baku-on-sunday.3L9mhnq904aGiQ8E6qOk4c.html https://www.bellevuereporter.com/business/singer-mariah-carey-makes-appearance-at-opening-of-bellevues-new-sugar-factory/ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/tour-news-at-last-mariah-carey-heads-to-nz/PE5OHAM3VJGNE5ALADA7BHEHEM/ https://theboombox.com/mariah-carey-facts/ Alherpo ( talk) 15:35, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
It shows his certifications are 165.1 million but counting, it's below (around 162 million). -- Apoxyomenus ( talk) 17:18, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Talking about MJ, I noticed in your file you didn't add the 500,000 certified units he got in Argentina for Thriller according to the official entity CAPIF. That's a different link from the regular database for Gold/Platinum but exists and it's from CAPIF itself. BTW, i've reviewed few countries in Madonna's case (not all yet) and there are some missing cert sales. I'll post them as soon as I can either to review/add them. -- Apoxyomenus ( talk) 20:37, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
As I pointed out above, I've reviewed some countries (not all yet). But at this time, these are one of them:
As I said, I didn't verify all countries and in my understanding, I've used the same publishers (CAPIF, AMPROFON etc) whom have been used with any other artist. Regards, -- Apoxyomenus ( talk) 00:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Each section of the 'Artists by reputed sales' portion of the article shows a picture collage of the artists featured in the table that's below the collage with all the statistics. In the '250 million or more records' section, Pink Floyd is missing from the collage at the top but listed in the table below. Is there any reason for this? If not, please fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicholas The Second ( talk • contribs) 07:12, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
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I might be wrong but I don't think anyone ever added the French Gold certification for the Police song Message in a Bottle for the sales of 500,000. [1] Bluebuglove ( talk) 03:44, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
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Could you add to the Police's Argentina sales the 3x Platinum certification which was given to the Best of Sting and the Police album. [1] Bluebuglove ( talk) 00:54, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Harout72 , with 234.5 million available certification for Jackson, it is time to update the sales claims of MJ to 400 Million. Even though the last few certifications updates are stream generated. What’s your opinion?.— Akhiljaxxn ( talk) 20:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
The point of rushing into upgrading MJ's sales figure or any other artists' sales figure is to make this list more accurate with its available Certification. While taking a detailed look at the claimed sales of the top of 5 artists ( The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, Elton John, and Madonna). I found the first two artists have been given more consideration considering the artists from the 50s and 60s have tons of million certifications that are missing considering there was no certification system during this period. That’s is far too liberal for the time period.
Let's start with The Beatles. Their first record was released in 1962. During this time RIAA, the biggest market of music sales, and the Beatles were already established. 217.2 Million out of 282.6 of The Beatles certifications from RIAA which is 77% of their total certifications. Their second-biggest market UK which is also their homeland only started the certification system in 1973. Their available certifications from the UK is 23 Million which is slightly more than 8% of their total certifications. Their third-biggest market in Canada where the certification system started in 1975. In Canada, their available certification is 14.4 million which is only 4% of their total available certifications. Considering the 89% of the total certifications of the Beatles are from these three countries. 77% out of 89 of these from a country where the certification system already established shows that this difference of 317.4 (600-282.6) millions of "missing" certifications is completely "wrong".
When it comes to Elvis Presley, his debut album was released in 1956. Before that, he only released four to five songs. RIAA has established in 1958 after four years of Presleys first song release. and 199M out of his 227.3 million total available certifications are from the USA. Which is almost 88% of his total available certifications. Presley's available certifications in the UK is 16.4 Million. Which is more than just 7% of his total available certifications. Since 95% of his total available certifications are from these two countries and one of these two countries had set up a certification system just after 4-year of Presley's career indicating there is no way he is missing another 100 Million from the USA or 372.7 Million (600-227.3) from World Wide.
The other problem that I see in the list is the claimed sales of Elton John and Madonna are the same even though John has 20.4 Million more available certifications than Madonna. And his first charted record in 1969, 13 years Before Madonna. The math and logic are way off here. This entire page is seemingly in need of a revamp.— Akhiljaxxn ( talk) 20:08, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Harout, I do not understand how my logic and comparison are flawed. The Beatles have 217.250 million certified units from the RIAA, which is almost 77% of the total available certified sales. RIAA represents only 22% of overall global sales. They have 23 Million certifications from the UK which is slightly more than 8% of their total available certifications. UK/BPI represents 8.5% of overall global sales. Their third-biggest market in Canada, where their available certification is 14.4 million which is only 4% of their total available certifications. Canada represents 2.1% of overall global sales. 89% of the total available certifications of the Beatles are from these three countries which represent 32.6%of overall global sales. Like you mentioned above all bands/artists from the US, UK, Australia, Canada sell much of their records in English-speaking countries than in other markets. Coincidentally These three countries are English-speaking countries and the primary markets of the Beatles. If you minus the RIAA certification of the Beatles from their total available certification, considering RIAA was already there before the start of their career, the available certifications from the rest of the market will be 65.35 Million. That’s the math. Math does not lie. Even if we consider your unsourced opinion of the Beatles selling three times more than the math adds up to be from the rest of the market where there was no certification system before they first started charting, the available certification will be 65.35X3=196.05 and their total available certification will be 196.05+217.250=413.3M Million. So the difference of 317.4 (600-282.6) millions of "missing" certifications is simply not justifiable.— Akhiljaxxn ( talk) 19:50, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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I was reading this file for The Police's certification and just so happen to see that their single "De Doo Doo Doo De Da Da Da" was classified under albums instead of singles, anyway to 400,000 to the Police's UK sales to fox this mistake. Bluebuglove ( talk) 07:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
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Could you add the Police's Grestest Hits album certification which went 2x Platinum in December 2020. [1] Bluebuglove ( talk) 18:06, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Harout. I finished four more countries. Please see in my sandbox (version: February 1, 2021). Pinging @ 88marcus: for a " third review" if he kindly re-verity Brazil's case if is available/or wants. Last time, I talked about at least 100,000 units missing in Argentina, but seems is above 1 million if everything is correct, also pinging @ Bluesatellite: if he can double-check info. Sincerely, -- Apoxyomenus ( talk) 01:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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No one ever added the UK silver certification for the Beatle's Penny Lane song and the UK platinum certification for the Beatle's Let it Be album, both were certified in November 2020. [1] Zenyattasting ( talk) 03:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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One other Beatle certification you forgot to add was for the SGT Pepper album going 18× Platinum in the UK in August 2020. [1] Zenyattasting ( talk) 06:11, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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The Police's albums Zenyatta Mondatta and Ghost in the Machine 1990 CD reissues were both certified Gold in 1991 and it has not been added (Zenyatta and Ghost were both originally vinyl with Zenyatta certified Platinum and Ghost certified Gold both in 1981). Click the link to the French certifications archive and click on the artist finder until you find the Police and you will see the two 1991 Gold certifications for the two album reissues [1] also this link is evidence for 1990 reissue. [2] [3] Zenyattasting ( talk) 05:28, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Madonna claimed sales are over 335 millions according to Guinness World Record since at least 2015 edition. Those 335 million record sales were also the same claimed by her old record label Warner when in 2009 they released another greateast hits album called "Celebration". Certainly her sales are already over 350 million but without any updates from official sources we cannot put that here still we can certainly say 335-350 million as she already released 2 studio albums, a few singles and other live albums since and her catalog keeps selling. Here is the link for that 335 million records nunber: https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-female-recording-artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.94.43.146 ( talk • contribs) November 28, 2020
Actually there are so many reliable source for 335 million sales figure:
Her certified sales are increased can we use the 335 million figure? There are so many reliable source for this figure and actually Madonna has sold more than Elton John can we put Madonna first? You are all so knowledgeable about sales informations you should know Madonna has sold more than Elton John i guess Navyiconer ( talk) 15:09, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Harout. I want to raise her sales to 149m. But, what do you think at this moment? She has pass 150m in her certified sales. Thanks Politsi ( talk) 04:53, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Recently I saw Canada, Sweden and Norway has changed. Then, it is more than 1% of total certification. How about raising 1990 to 65% and 2015 to 82%? 71.97 and 90.95 is actual calculation. It seems 3% for each year and 0.8% without round-off. -- 221.144.84.164 ( talk) 05:11, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Must Add new certification for Lady gaga in switzerland for chormatica and shallow and artpop album and the soundtrack a star is born and always remember us this way 5.89.204.151 ( talk) 16:40, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Didn't Billboard already stated way back in 2021 that Céline already sold 250 million albums worldwide? Why is she still not included on the bracket? Billboard itself is a reliable source. Although she is one of the most undercertified artists ever, she needs to get the recognition she deserves.
Link: https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/columns/pop/7776996/the-illustrious-career-of-celine-dion Loibird90 ( talk) 15:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Billbiard already stated in 2017 that Céline already sold 250 million albums. Billboard is a reliable source like what this page says, she needs to be put on the same bracket as Madonna and Rihanna! Loibird90 ( talk) 15:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Celine Dion's sales are obviously undercertified. If you're saying artists with claimed figures that are closest to artists' available certified units is a rule for this page, how about Madonna? Her certified sales based on this page is around 178m, yet the claimed sales is at 300m? Are those figures close to each other for you? And same goes for some artists on the list. All I'm saying is that, Billboard is already an enough reliable source. Loibird90 ( talk) 13:57, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Also, I see Pink Floyd is listed in the bracket "250m or more" when they only have 121m certified units.
While Celine Dion with 132m certified units is still in the 200m bracket? Despite Billboard already stated she sold 250m by 2017?
It doesn't make sense. It seems like the rule only applies to Celine then?
Both Pink Floyd and Céline Dion has the same claimed sales. But Celine has higher certified units than them. The difference is that Pink Floyd is place higher than her?
She should be placed in that bracket then if that's the case. Loibird90 ( talk) 14:06, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Pink Floyd is listed in the '250m or more' with only 121m certified units wouldn't that make it more questionable? And the fact that you said, there was no certification system around the time Pink Floyd started to chart, that makes it even more intriguing? 121m is way far from 250m to even be considered on the '250m or more bracket'. Loibird90 ( talk) 07:08, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Plus, Madonna with only 178m certified units is placed on the same bracket as well despite claiming over 300m. Does both numbers seems close to you to even consider that? That's like almost same gap with Céline (around 120m gap of certified and claimed). Loibird90 ( talk) 07:15, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
How much certified sales would it take then for her to be placed on the "250m or more"? since Billboard itself is inflating Celines sales then. Loibird90 ( talk) 23:15, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Falling Into You certification in the US finally got an update. Its now 12x Platinum. Update it please. Loibird90 ( talk) 13:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Celine Dion receives new RIAA Certifications. Please update her certified units. Loibird90 ( talk) 13:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Isn't it about time we put Drake on the first list? he has more than 300 million total certified units, more than anyone else on the list, including everyone in the top list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.128.2.98 ( talk) 14:53, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
why they are not in the list? they sold over 75 million 5.89.204.151 ( talk) 13:04, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
On the Anghami page (the most important musical medium in the Middle East) and on the Celebraty Net Worth page it is specified that the Colombian singer has sold more than 125 million discs mixed with albums and singles.If we consider that Laundry Service sold 15 million copies, SHAKIRA sold 1.2 million, The oral fixation collection sold between them 12 million copies, Pies descalzos sold 5 million copies. MTV Unplugged sold 2 million copies. ¿Donde están los ladrones? sold 6-8 million copies. Sale el sol sold 4 million copies. She wolf sold 2 million copies. El dorado sold 2 million total copies. A total of 50 million sales that is adding the sales of singles of Hips don't lie with 12 million solid sales. Whenever Wherever with 10 million, Waka Waka with 10 million sales, Beautiful Liar sold 7 million sales, Torture sold more than 6 million copies. Try everything sold between 7-9 million copies. She wolf sold 7 million records. Can't remember to forget you sold 7 million records. Lalala sold 5 million copies. And blackmail sold 8 million total sales. underneath your clothes sold 4 million sales and Rabiosa sold 5 million copies. In total, it sold about 139 million records. That taking as sources pages like Billboard and reliable sources without counting streaming.
I think we should raise Shakira's position. I wait for an answer. Alejandro Ortiz 15 ( talk) 20:44, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Alejandro Ortiz
This page doesn’t differentiate between albums and singles or digital and physical sales. This means 10-20 streams equal an entire album. The price and durability of the album fare outweighs a handfull of stream. This makes Rihanna seems as a more successful artist than for example Elvis or The Beatles. Being a history major with in-depth knowledge of music history I can assure you it is not the case. But this is perhaps not even relevant to discuss. It is just a fact that digital and physical sales are incomparable and I think this page should show this. Could we split the list in two? The physical and the digital era? Friislund79 ( talk) 18:32, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Tupac have certified sales of 200,000 units in the Netherlands in which they include:
(Albums) Greatest Hits: Platinum (100,000) R U Still Down? [Remember Me]: Gold (50,000) (Singles) Changes: Gold (50,000)
Also just in case if you wanna check it by yourself. You can go and type "2 Pac" in the NVPI database.
Not to mention if you also type "2 Pac" in the IFPI Denmark database, you'll find the certification for the album "All Eyez on Me" certified Platinum (20,000) so that raises the total to 155,000 units.
Hope whoever reads this has a great day. Moh8213 ( talk) 17:09, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
U welcome lol also forgot Pac has certification in France for his Greatest Hits album, certified Gold (100,000) in 2002. Moh8213 ( talk) 08:29, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
What happened to the references listed that Mariah Carey's records of 220 million. there was tons of references and the discussion vanished.
File:Pink_Floyd_-_all_members.jpg this one is from their wikipedia page.
Hello, The data that has been used in this article is completely wrong and based on inaccurate estimates. For example, there is no way that Rihanna has already sold more than Mariah Carey. I think we should change this page to match this: https://chartmasters.org/2020/05/cspc-mass-update-streaming/. This website accurately analyzed artists by their album sales, single sales, streaming, and more to compile correct sales numbers. If you click on any of the artists in the list, there is a detailed page with many sub-pages that analyzes every component of an artist's sales and describes the calculations they make. These numbers are accurate and also make a lot of sense. Thanks
Céline Dion has received new certifications in Australia! Loibird90 ( talk) 15:11, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
https://australian-charts.com/forum.asp?todo=viewthread&id=58525 Loibird90 ( talk) 00:47, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Well didn't ARIA stop making new certifications visible to the public since September 2020 but that site continues to post updates. You can see even the newer ones everything is accurate. Loibird90 ( talk) 04:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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Artist: Ariana Grande
Country / Market: United States
Period active: 2011-present
Release-year of first charted record: 2013
Genre: Pop / R&B
Total certified units: 121.14 million (sources: official websites of music recording certification systems, already referenced in article)
Claimed sales: 81 million ( https://www.thethings.com/how-ariana-grande-earns-spends-her-150-million-net-worth/) DriesTaeymans ( talk) 11:50, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Luke Bryan sold 75 million. Here is the source https://popculture.com/country-music/news/luke-bryan-shares-graphic-video-horrifying-fishing-accident/ Thank you 103.153.82.41 ( talk) 08:45, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I have not yet found a reliable source of Ariana Grande's claimed sales, but RIAA has just updated some of her plaques and boosted her to 85 million. She could reach 100 million RIAA units if her entire catalogue is updated, so there might be coming some articles on that soon (just like when Nicki Minaj hit 100 million certified RIAA units). By the way, this update includes Side To Side ft. Nicki Minaj, which can be added to Nicki's total certified sales! -- DriesTaeymans ( talk) 21:47, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Dolly Parton has claimed sales of 100 million records sold worldwide. The best (in my opinion) and most recent source for this is from IMG Licensing who are currently licensing Parton's name and image for her new perfume, among other products. ( https://www.imglicensing.com/client-portfolio/dolly-parton/) The RIAA even awarded her a plaque for sales of 100 million records in 2014, although most news sources reported this as 100 million albums, the plaque itself states 100 million records worldwide. (Parton pictured with the plaque at this source: https://www.hometowncountrymusic.com/dolly-parton-celebrates-100-million-records-sold/)
Here are 14 sources for her claimed sales of 100 million records:
Now, I know that an artist such as Parton who has been releasing music since the 1960s must have 20 percent of her claimed sales backed up by certifications. In recent years Parton's certifications have increased enough to verify 20 percent of her claimed 100 million. Her total verifiable records from certifications is 21,520,000.
The breakdown of this is:
Further breakdown:
RIAA 16,550,000
Title / Highest award / No. of units / Date of certification / Type
BPI 3,900,000
Title / Highest award / No. of units / Date of certification / Type
Music Canada 1,070,000
Title / Highest award / No. of units / Date of certification / Type
New Zealand 15,000
Title / Highest award / No. of units / Date of certification / Type
Since Parton's claimed sales of 100 million records needs to be verified by at least a minimum of 20% certifications (20,000,000) and her current verifiable certifications show a total of 21,520,000 (the required 20%, plus an additional 1.5 million), I see no reason to not add her to this list.
Thanks! Benjichilders ( talk) 21:16, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Her australian certification at higher. She got last Week 3x platinum for Always remember us this way in Australia And she has more sales. She sold over 150 milion. Just look the certification — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.153.132.57 ( talk) 11:56, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
https://mena24tv.com/en/2020/09/08/alicia-keys-uses-family-photo-to-encourage-people-to-spread-love/ Harout. What do you think? Thanks Politsi ( talk) 21:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I was reverted by @ Harout72: for putting the pictures in the first section in list order (i.e. the Beatles first, Rhianna last); however, the revert was technically correct, as the hidden comment says to put in the order of certified sales. I missed the nuance of the comment and assumed the list was in the same order. In any case - I think having the list and photos in different order is irrational and confusing. After all, unless you are editing, you cannot see the hidden comment, and no one is going to see the explanation. But more than that, what possible reason could there be to have the two different standards? The two should match. This is not an argument about which measurement (claimed vs certified) is more important, but rather about uniformity. Based upon the high number of archives, I assume this may have been discussed before, but I think it's time to re-examine. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 13:33, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/country/6693439/alabama-southern-drawl-interview Harout. In 2015, According to Billboard. Alabama only sold 70 million records. Their major certified sales only in 2 countries and only 48m. I think we should put them out of the list. What do you think? Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 19:40, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/bring-the-noise/seven-child-music-stars/zk66jhv Harout. In case if Cyrus enough already to be in the list. Can we use this source to support 75m for her? I'm not sure enough. Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 08:01, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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Add 2 million to Lionel Richie, David Bowie and the Police's US sales as their songs appeared on the Wedding Singer soundtrack which was certified double platinum in 2003. [1] Stevehurleywoof ( talk) 21:48, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello Harout71, hope you doing well. I just discovered that Linkin Park has a total certified sales of 100,000 units in Argentina in which they include:
Hybrid Theory: Platinum (60,000) Reanimation: Gold (20,000) Meteora: Gold (20,000)
If you want to check it out you can found them here in the archived database of CAPIF.
Thanks :) Moh8213 ( talk) 12:39, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome. I'd like if you'd re-check their total sales in Brazil, to me it came up 645,000 units tho I could be wrong. Hope you check that up too, thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 22:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
I've just checked it out and ngl you did a pretty good job arranging it, tho I found one needs an update and one's missing.
In Spain, the single In the End is certified Gold (25,000) in 2017 and here's a source: https://www.elportaldemusica.es/single/linkin-park-in-the-end
And in Denmark the album Meteora is certified 3× Platinum (60,000) in 2017 and here's a source: http://www.hitlisten.nu/default.asp?w=30&y=2017&list=a40
Other than that I didn't found anything missing. Moh8213 ( talk) 10:06, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh forget something, their 5th album Living Things was certified Gold (7,500) in New Zealand, it wasn't added in your files. Thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 13:51, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
the american rock band the doors in Italy collected 215,000 certified sales and not 170,000. The Doors debut album 50,000, Morrison Hotel 25,000, The very best of (2007) 80,000, Light My Fire single 25,000, Riders On The Storm single 35,000, instead in France it certifies almost 3,000,000 million and not 1,900,000 since only the album L.A. Woman certifies 945,800 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 13:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
sorry because this source https://www.infodisc.fr/Ventes_Albums_Tout_Temps.php?debut=150 says L.A. Woman in France sold 945,800 units and not 600,000. 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 11:58, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
https://www.thefader.com/2018/06/29/drake-most-certified-digital-singles-history/amp Harout. His certified sales already hit at 360m. I think it is time for him to enter the 200m club. I have no reliable source to support it yet. But we could use this source from a magazine. I think it's okay to use temporary for his 200m claim. Is it right? Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 12:23, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi, The Rolling Stones have sold over 240 million albums worldwide and not 200 million https://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2014/12/30/with-touring-still-a-focal-point-the-rolling-stones-acdc-and-u2-fight-for-top-honors-in-rock-and-roll-history/?sh=1c10ef79a569 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 13:09, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I noticed under The Doors certification of total sales 80 million records sold worldwide that uses a link extrapolated from the film directed by Tom Di Cillo elaborated in 2008 and published in the cinema in January 2009 an interview with Ray Manzarek in 2010 that states that the Doors at that time had more than 80 million sales in the world, the problem is that the link and the interview are 12 years old, I don't think it is appropriate to keep a link that old since the Doors have totaled 100 million record sales worldwide. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-22604798 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ray-manzarek-founding-member-of-the-doors-dies-at-74/ The Doors total available certified 48.4 million, but have total sales of 80 million records sold worldwide. Keeping in mind that various artists have very low and lower certified sales than The Doors, but they have total sales of 100 million records sold worldwide, it seems to me a contradiction, for example:
Bob Dylan total available certified 46,6 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Def Leopard total available certified 42,6 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Cher total available certified 42,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Genesis total available certified 40,3 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
David Bowie total available certified 38,4 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Stevie Wonder total available certified 37,7 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
James Taylor total available certified 36,5 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Olivia Newton-John total available certified 35,9 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Tina Turner total available certified 35,3 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Linda Ronstadt total available certified 33,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
The Beach Boys total available certified 32,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Donna Summer total available certified 31,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
The Who total available certified 28,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million)
Barry White total available certified 22,2 million (Claimed sales 100 million) 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 01:09, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi I found this source directly from the official site and it seems reliable what you say. https://thedoors.com/news/the-doors-x-roxy-collection-has-landed 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 20:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks to everyone for the help. 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 15:13, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1425521/Luke-Bryan-children-does-country-singer-Luke-Bryan-have-children-wife-evg Harout. I think there is something wrong with the source for Bryan from Fox2now that I add for him last week. It seems the contain for his "75m claim" is missing. If you also see something wrong with that source. I will put the source from Daily Express for temporary. Thanks Politsi ( talk) 10:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Harout. Need your help if you have a time to collected the girl group's certified sales. Just in case if they able again to be on the list. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-33816413 Thanks Politsi ( talk) 09:59, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I found this link where it indicates that The Doors soundtrack album of Oliver Stone's film is certified gold in Spain with 50,000 copies, so the total sales in Spain alone should be 350,000 and not 300,000. http://www.mediafire.com/file/x263f6daopkswo8/Spanish_certifications_for_1979-1990.pdf/file 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 15:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
ok, I would simply like to know if the Link I put is true or not, since it bears the words 1991, The Doors (B.S.O. DE LA PELÌCULA) WEA certified gold, while the one you indicated to me only brings: The Doors debut album certified gold, with 50,000 units, Morrison Hotel Platinum, with 100,000 units, THERE. Woman platinum, with 100,000 units The Best of the doors gold, with 50,000 units, but missing as I told you The Doors (B.S.O. DE LA PELÌCULA) WEA certified gold.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/x263f6daopkswo8/Spanish_certifications_for_1979-1990.pdf/file 95.246.157.208 ( talk) 16:05, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Her face is first in line as one of the best selling artists of all time. This is NOT true. Just because in recent times they are able to tabulate digital downloads, it doesn't mean she a best seller. And even using the digital downloads, they are SINGLES, not albums. On the RIAA website for the US (her biggest market), she is listed at #106 in album sales (behind Jimmy Buffet). She does sell singles, but to count singles the same as albums is bizarre and misleading and makes this page inaccurate (basically useless). Calling everything a "unit" and weighing everything equally is not equal. Wikipedia really needs to check this. This is misleading the general public and should clarify that she's a singles seller maybe (like the RIAA does), but albums sales that are about 10 times more valuable (#106 in her top market) does not put at the same level as some of the others. I love Rihanna, nothing against her, she's definitely one of my favorite artists, this is just simply inaccurate and definitely misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:483f:cd59:925:d18d:1cec:2921 ( talk) 14:28, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
I see there is a raise of certified sales from two act in the 90m Club in recent years. The Carpenters (46m. 1969) and Earth, Wind, & Fire (43.8m. 1971). Both of them have a high certified sales for old artists. I Will bring them back to 100m club. Politsi ( talk) 11:39, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Their music chart begin since 1975 and with more than 64m certified sales in five different countries. They are definitely should be at the 100m club. I will bring them also. Politsi ( talk) 12:07, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Meat Loaf and Foreigner started their music chart since 1977. And their certified sales are impressive. Meat Loaf. 45.3m and Foreigner 50m. I will bring them go inside 100m club. Politsi ( talk) 11:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
This band music chart since 1978 and they have more than 64m in certified sales. They are definitely should be at the 100m club. I will bring them also. Politsi ( talk) 12:14, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Begin his music career and since his death. His certified sales has been raised close to 53m. We should bring him back to 100m club. Politsi ( talk) 12:17, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Cash music chart begin since 1956 and he has close to 32m in certified sales. He has a better certified units than Barry White, The Who, and Donna Summer who are younger than him. I will bring Cash to 100m club. Politsi ( talk) 12:00, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Politsi ( talk) 14:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Harout. We should considered this band to be out of the list. I feel some relief after seeing Barry White's name removed and I think the same situation should go to The Who since they are not reach 30m certified. Let's get them out also. Politsi ( talk) 03:06, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Apologies for being inexperienced here, but I believe Queen should be moved up into the >250 million section. The current source being used to cite Queen's claimed sales as 200 million is an article from the Herald of Glasgow published back in 2015. Since then, numerous credible sources have claimed that Queen has sold 300 million records worldwide, some of which including:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/simonthompson/2018/12/10/queens-bohemian-rhapsody-is-officially-the-worlds-most-streamed-song/?sh=fd28c7cc1f0a (4th paragraph down)
https://www.ocregister.com/2018/11/02/heres-how-the-song-bohemian-rhapsody-became-queens-biggest-hit/ (2nd paragraph down)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/rock-you-queen-double-earnings-6003124
300 million in claimed sales would fall right in line with their 166 million certified sales, especially considering their first song charted in 1973. Led Zeppelin, which by all means is comparable time-wise, has 141 million certified sales, but their claimed sales figures are 300 million. According to the sources provided above, Queen should be roughly around those numbers.
I'm just interested in what sort of consensus should be reached regarding whether the above cited sources warrants Queen be moved up into the 250 million or more section. (I apologize for being ignorant on alot of this, I've just started editing today and I'm still learning the ropes)
ChimChamIt'sAScam05 ( talk) 22:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Using 300m claim for Queen is not right at this time since most of their current new certified sales come from streaming. 250m-200m is the best sales for them now. If there is no complaint within the next days. I will put Queen to 250m club by using that source while still keep their 200m sales. Politsi ( talk) 12:24, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Well, I think we should considered other source which is more clear and better. As someone who's responsible to make many artist to be place in the list by using a prestigious reliable source. I feel responsible to make sure that all source must be clear and prestigious. Let's find another source or wait until Queen hit 175-180m in certified sales. Politsi ( talk) 15:04, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
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Eminem and EdSheeran have to put in the 250+mio List
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Ariana Grande could be considered part of this page as one of the best-selling music artists because she has sold over 80 million certified units. Here is evidence to support this figure from the RIAA website: Ariana Grande total RIAA Units Ariana Grande Digital Singles units Ariana Grande RIAA album units
The first link above shows all her RIAA certifications (albums and singles) and together this sums up to the total of over 80 million units. The second link is the amount of digital singles units she has sold and the third link is the total album units she has sold. 108.34.228.150 ( talk) 03:46, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Hey Harout, hope you doing well, I'd like if you can send me the file for The Black Eyed Peas, thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 15:44, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
I've checked the file and here are the stuff that either needs an update or missing from your file.
https://pro-musicabr.org.br/home/certificados/?busca_artista=elephunk
Other than that so far I haven't found anything else that seems incorrect. Thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 20:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh that's great, though the 15,000 (Gold) and 30,000 (Platinum) certifications are for the domestic artists. For the international artists (such as the Black Eyed Peas) certifications are 25,000 (Gold) and 50,000 (Platinum). so the album Monkey Business is with 50,000 not 30,000. Moh8213 ( talk) 22:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Cool tho I don't think, it will make any difference but the album Elephunk was certified gold with sales of 23,541 in Finland https://www.ifpi.fi/tutkimukset-ja-tilastot/kulta-ja-platinalevyt/artistit/black+eyed+peas/ you can add them in your files if you want. Also have you forgot about the Mexican certifications or what? Lol Moh8213 ( talk) 00:19, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh shot, new discoveries. Apparently, there is a remix of the song Meet Me Halfway called Meet Me Halfway (Richard Vision Solmatic Remix) the remix is certified Platinum (40,000) in Spain and it's already included in your file but I've just found out that the regular of the song is certified Gold (20,000) and here are sources https://www.elportaldemusica.es/single/the-black-eyed-peas-meet-me-halfway https://www.elportaldemusica.es/single/the-black-eyed-peas-meet-me-halfway-richard-vision-solmatic-remix I've also found out their album Monkey Business & Elephunk was certified Platinum (120,000) & (130,000) in Italy and here are sources from Music & Media & la Republica https://web.archive.org/web/20140106032032/http://www.musicaedischi.it/mdonline/7046.pdf https://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica/archivio/repubblica/2006/07/03/in-200-mila-san-giovanni-il-luglio.html Moh8213 ( talk) 01:07, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Hey Harout, Apparently, Black Eyed Peas' single Mamacita is recently certified 2× Platinum (40,000) in Poland, along with their previous certifications: Monkey Business Platinum (40,000) in 2007 and The E.N.D. Platinum (20,000) in 2010, their Polish certified sales is raised to 100,000. Moh8213 ( talk) 20:38, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Are the albums sold only albums or are singles also counted? Because in that case Shakira has sold more than 50 million albums, said by Billboard and if that we put together the sale of Hips don't lie and Waka Waka that each one says 10 million sales go to 70 million and adding the other song sales. I say that your sales can go much higher. Nice to know if you can help me and / or correct me. Link: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/267379/shakira-the-she-wolf-billboard-cover-story AlexanderShakifan29 ( talk) 17:15, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello Harout, I'd like if you can send me the files for Eminem & Tupac, thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 12:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Isn't the 8 Mile Soundtrack album part of Eminem's sales?, cause if so, Em have lots of certifications from that album Eminem certification in Australia needs minor updates which includes The Eminem Show certified 2× Diamond (1,000,000) in 2021 and here's source: https://www.aria.com.au/charts/hip-hop-r-and-b-albums-chart/2021-04-19 Eminem's recent album Music to Be Murdered By is certified Gold (35,000) and here's source: https://www.aria.com.au/charts/hip-hop-r-and-b-albums-chart/2021-04-19
Though it's currently not available on the database but Eminem's album Recovery is certified 7× Platinum (560,000) in Canada, I remember seeing it once on the database but for some reason it's not available now. But here's a Neilsen Year-End music report Canada 2019 PDF https://static.billboard.com/files/pdfs/NIELSEN_2019_YEARENDreportCANADA.pdf and if you go to page 41 there you will find Top 10 best selling albums and Recovery is at number 4 with 613,000 units.
With Tupac, his single California Love certified Gold (400,000) in the UK and here's source: https://www.bpi.co.uk/award/13643-4153-1 though in your files it's listed as Silver (200,000) Other than that I didn't find anything that seems incorrect. Thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 20:14, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh alright I understand, again thanks for your time. Moh8213 ( talk) 01:15, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome for the Mariah edit. I might be wrong but I think Eminem's album The Marshall Mathers LP is certified 2× Platinum (160,000) in the Netherlands, according to the NVPI database, the album was first certified Gold and then Platinum in 2000 and again certified another Platinum in 2001. What do you think? Moh8213 ( talk) 17:14, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Hey Harout, it seems that Mariah Carey's total Belgian sales is 225,000 with Music Box certified 2× Platinum (100,000) in 1995, Daydream certified Platinum (50,000) in 1995, Butterfly certified Gold (25,000) in 1997, her compilation album #1's certified Gold (25,000) in 1998 (I think it was certified Platinum in some later year though I'm not sure) and Rainbow certified Gold (25,000) in 1999 Moh8213 ( talk) 13:50, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Oh and one more thing, since the album Rainbow was released in November 1999, the correct unit of the German certification is 300,000 not 500,000. Thanks. Moh8213 ( talk) 19:49, 17 June 2021 (UTC)