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Hello,
the situation with the Sunni insurgents beside ISIS is very chaotic. A helpful page about the topic is this one, it's maybe one of the most extensive page about the Sunni Insurgents in Iraq: http://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Sunni%20Insurgency%20in%20Iraq.pdf I made some changes more or less according to it, but it would be good if anotherone would look at this text and help to put the text about the Sunni Insurgents in order after it. Greetings, -- Ermanarich ( talk) 13:56, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello together,
maybe you have already heard about it. The former governor of the Nineveh Governorate, Atheel al-Nujaifi, who is backed by Turkish military has made up his own force, the National Mobilisation Forces (NMF), also known as Hashd al-Watani. His aim is an autonomous Nineveh province and we need to show this somewhere in this list, since he is a powerbroker in the battle for Mosul. Also, Kata'ib al-Mosul are linked to Nujaifi and even if formally independent, Harakat Ahrar al-Mosul and Kata'ib al-Hamza are closer to Nujaifi than to the Iraqi army (or any other Shia militia), Kurds, Ba'athists or Sunni insurgents.
Also, this faction is probably more powerful and influental than Ba'athists and Sunni insurgents together.
Any ideas how to change the organisation of this list to include this faction? I guess we should make up the point Nineveh separatists, but to put them under Sunni insurgents and Ba'athists would make them seem like just another militia alongside the IS, but in fact, fighting IS is their main goal. Also, they're totally wrong under the Iraqi gov't section, since there are heavy tensions between Baghdad and the Nujaifi family, which can be seen at the fact that there is an official arrest warrant for Atheel al-Nujaifi.
What do you think?
Regards, Ermanarich ( talk) 23:16, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
P.S.: Some informations for those who are not in the topic: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]
Why is Iraqi Kurdistan and allies separate from the Iraq column, in the same way that ISIL has its own column as if they were fighting, when it is officially recognized by Iraq long before the civil war. Not only that but many of the "allies" under Iraqi Kurdistan could be said to be more friendly to Iraq than the KRG. This includes the Assyrian forces and some Yazidi forces are more friendly to the PMU and even some Yazidis don't identify as Kurds. People from the Iraqi government have also been supportive of the PKK, even calling for them to open an office in Baghdad. These two should not be separate columns because it is misleading and wrong. FugeeCamp talk 19:35, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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Hello,
the situation with the Sunni insurgents beside ISIS is very chaotic. A helpful page about the topic is this one, it's maybe one of the most extensive page about the Sunni Insurgents in Iraq: http://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Sunni%20Insurgency%20in%20Iraq.pdf I made some changes more or less according to it, but it would be good if anotherone would look at this text and help to put the text about the Sunni Insurgents in order after it. Greetings, -- Ermanarich ( talk) 13:56, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello together,
maybe you have already heard about it. The former governor of the Nineveh Governorate, Atheel al-Nujaifi, who is backed by Turkish military has made up his own force, the National Mobilisation Forces (NMF), also known as Hashd al-Watani. His aim is an autonomous Nineveh province and we need to show this somewhere in this list, since he is a powerbroker in the battle for Mosul. Also, Kata'ib al-Mosul are linked to Nujaifi and even if formally independent, Harakat Ahrar al-Mosul and Kata'ib al-Hamza are closer to Nujaifi than to the Iraqi army (or any other Shia militia), Kurds, Ba'athists or Sunni insurgents.
Also, this faction is probably more powerful and influental than Ba'athists and Sunni insurgents together.
Any ideas how to change the organisation of this list to include this faction? I guess we should make up the point Nineveh separatists, but to put them under Sunni insurgents and Ba'athists would make them seem like just another militia alongside the IS, but in fact, fighting IS is their main goal. Also, they're totally wrong under the Iraqi gov't section, since there are heavy tensions between Baghdad and the Nujaifi family, which can be seen at the fact that there is an official arrest warrant for Atheel al-Nujaifi.
What do you think?
Regards, Ermanarich ( talk) 23:16, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
P.S.: Some informations for those who are not in the topic: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]
Why is Iraqi Kurdistan and allies separate from the Iraq column, in the same way that ISIL has its own column as if they were fighting, when it is officially recognized by Iraq long before the civil war. Not only that but many of the "allies" under Iraqi Kurdistan could be said to be more friendly to Iraq than the KRG. This includes the Assyrian forces and some Yazidi forces are more friendly to the PMU and even some Yazidis don't identify as Kurds. People from the Iraqi government have also been supportive of the PKK, even calling for them to open an office in Baghdad. These two should not be separate columns because it is misleading and wrong. FugeeCamp talk 19:35, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
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The result of the move request was: Moved, unopposed ( non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs ( talk) 15:54, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
List of armed groups in the Iraq-ISIL War â List of armed groups in the War in Iraq (2013â2017) â Original articleâs name has changed to the âWar in Iraq (2013â2017)â Ridax2020 ( talk) 15:05, 24 December 2020 (UTC) âRelisting. Megan B.... Itâs all coming to me till the end of time 19:56, 1 January 2021 (UTC) âRelisting. â Nnadigoodluck âââ 06:48, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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