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Why aren't the actual Amendments listed in the List of Amendments? There are only summaries...which are open for interpretation. Really Old Roger ( talk) 23:52, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
I see in you response that the the Amendments are not listed in this article but there is column with a summery of the Amendment. There are two points to look at in regard to this. One is that the article name is "List of amendments to the United States Constitution" but the article does not have a actual list of the Amendments only a summary. when people are going through the article it would be easy mistake to think that the text in the summary field is the actual Amendment. The second issue is in regard to the second Amendment, the summary text is "Protects the right to keep and bear arms" and there is nothing to explain that right of the states to organise a regulated militia. I can see other Amendment summaries do cover each part of the Amendment so not sure why it might have been missed on the second. Deanmc84 ( talk) 01:22, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
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Some of the amendments listed are not representative of the US Constitution. Please refer to https://usconstitution.net/const.html and read the amendments' section and please list the amendments verbatim. By not doing so you invite misinterpretation and the proponency to rewrite history. 95.233.186.243 ( talk) 08:47, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Was the 13th amendment proposed in 1865? I don't think so. Lincoln began his speech with "4 score and 7 years ago" (87 years ago) which was when the Declaration of Independence was formed (1776). 1865-87=1778 and that's 2 years off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NDEdminson ( talk • contribs) 20:39, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Gettysburg Address? I completely forgot about that. NDEdminson ( talk) 04:15, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
I had a hell of a time finding Wikipedia’s list of failed attempts to secure ratification of proposed constitutional amendments. There were six such failed attempts in U.S. history, and the only place they are covered at Wikipedia is in this article, named “List of Amendments to the United States Constitution.” But those six instances do not involve an amendment, they involved failed attempt at amendment. So, if this article is going to have a crummy title that does not describe accurately the scope of this article, at least the hatnote should clear things up, right? Anythingyouwant ( talk) 19:37, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
“ | This article is about the constitutional amendments approved by the U.S. Congress and sent to the states for ratification. For proposals to amend the U.S. Constitution introduced in but not approved by Congress, see List of proposed amendments to the United States Constitution. | ” |
“ | This article is about the constitutional amendments approved by the U.S. Congress, whether or not they were later ratified by the states. For proposals to amend the U.S. Constitution introduced in but not approved by Congress, see List of proposed amendments to the United States Constitution. | ” |
"Beginning in the early 20th century, Congress has usually, but not always, stipulated that an amendment must be ratified by the required number of states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states in order to become part of the Constitution. Congress's authority to set a ratification deadline was affirmed in 1939 by the United States Supreme Court in Coleman v. Miller (307 U.S. 433).[4]"
I've followed this link to the source, and it does NOT state that Congress has "usually, but not always" stipulated ratification was required within 7 years. It does state that the cited court case established that Congress does have the authority to set an expiration date for ratification, and accepted 7 years as a reasonable time period for said ratification.
Reviewing the links from this page for Amendments ratified since the beginning of the 20th century, 8 of them (16, 17, 19, 23, 24, 25, 26 and 27) had no set time period for ratification to be completed. 4 of them (18, 20, 21, 22) DID include an expiration date for the ratification process in the text of the amendment. Similarly, of the 3 unratified amendments proposed since the beginning of the 20th century, 2 (Child Labor and the ERA) did not include expiration text in the proposed amendment. The DC Voting amendment did.
It seems that the quoted text in the article needs to be re-written. Congress does have the authority to establish a time limit on ratification, which has usually been seven years, but usually has not done so.
ok 2600:1700:608:2010:D9DA:1759:2ED2:ABE9 ( talk) 21:51, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
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Why aren't the actual Amendments listed in the List of Amendments? There are only summaries...which are open for interpretation. Really Old Roger ( talk) 23:52, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
I see in you response that the the Amendments are not listed in this article but there is column with a summery of the Amendment. There are two points to look at in regard to this. One is that the article name is "List of amendments to the United States Constitution" but the article does not have a actual list of the Amendments only a summary. when people are going through the article it would be easy mistake to think that the text in the summary field is the actual Amendment. The second issue is in regard to the second Amendment, the summary text is "Protects the right to keep and bear arms" and there is nothing to explain that right of the states to organise a regulated militia. I can see other Amendment summaries do cover each part of the Amendment so not sure why it might have been missed on the second. Deanmc84 ( talk) 01:22, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
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Some of the amendments listed are not representative of the US Constitution. Please refer to https://usconstitution.net/const.html and read the amendments' section and please list the amendments verbatim. By not doing so you invite misinterpretation and the proponency to rewrite history. 95.233.186.243 ( talk) 08:47, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Was the 13th amendment proposed in 1865? I don't think so. Lincoln began his speech with "4 score and 7 years ago" (87 years ago) which was when the Declaration of Independence was formed (1776). 1865-87=1778 and that's 2 years off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NDEdminson ( talk • contribs) 20:39, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Gettysburg Address? I completely forgot about that. NDEdminson ( talk) 04:15, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
I had a hell of a time finding Wikipedia’s list of failed attempts to secure ratification of proposed constitutional amendments. There were six such failed attempts in U.S. history, and the only place they are covered at Wikipedia is in this article, named “List of Amendments to the United States Constitution.” But those six instances do not involve an amendment, they involved failed attempt at amendment. So, if this article is going to have a crummy title that does not describe accurately the scope of this article, at least the hatnote should clear things up, right? Anythingyouwant ( talk) 19:37, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
“ | This article is about the constitutional amendments approved by the U.S. Congress and sent to the states for ratification. For proposals to amend the U.S. Constitution introduced in but not approved by Congress, see List of proposed amendments to the United States Constitution. | ” |
“ | This article is about the constitutional amendments approved by the U.S. Congress, whether or not they were later ratified by the states. For proposals to amend the U.S. Constitution introduced in but not approved by Congress, see List of proposed amendments to the United States Constitution. | ” |
"Beginning in the early 20th century, Congress has usually, but not always, stipulated that an amendment must be ratified by the required number of states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states in order to become part of the Constitution. Congress's authority to set a ratification deadline was affirmed in 1939 by the United States Supreme Court in Coleman v. Miller (307 U.S. 433).[4]"
I've followed this link to the source, and it does NOT state that Congress has "usually, but not always" stipulated ratification was required within 7 years. It does state that the cited court case established that Congress does have the authority to set an expiration date for ratification, and accepted 7 years as a reasonable time period for said ratification.
Reviewing the links from this page for Amendments ratified since the beginning of the 20th century, 8 of them (16, 17, 19, 23, 24, 25, 26 and 27) had no set time period for ratification to be completed. 4 of them (18, 20, 21, 22) DID include an expiration date for the ratification process in the text of the amendment. Similarly, of the 3 unratified amendments proposed since the beginning of the 20th century, 2 (Child Labor and the ERA) did not include expiration text in the proposed amendment. The DC Voting amendment did.
It seems that the quoted text in the article needs to be re-written. Congress does have the authority to establish a time limit on ratification, which has usually been seven years, but usually has not done so.
ok 2600:1700:608:2010:D9DA:1759:2ED2:ABE9 ( talk) 21:51, 27 March 2023 (UTC)