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I have removed references to HoverDesk and Desktop X because they are not shell replacements. Shell replacements replace explorer.exe as the Windows shell. HoverDesk and Desktop X are GUI enhancements: Explorer is still the shell when these apps are running, and they are running as apps on top of the shell, not as the shell themselves. They belong to a class of software that includes Winstep (NextStart and WorkShelf) and which significantly change the look and feel of the Windows GUI without replacing Explorer as the shell. Canonblack 19:33, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
I quite agree. I just edited the name of Windows GUI shell to explorer.exe but I now find it links to File Explorer, er nope. Is there a way to change that ? Bold-basher ( talk) 00:40, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Since this is a Windows-specific phenomenon, instead of calling this articke "Desktop shell replacement," perhaps a more suitable title would be "Explorer shell replacement?" (Or "Explorer.exe shell replacement") — Tokek 11:55, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
"Computer users with the desire can modify explorer.exe extensively."
Isn't that illegal? Josh 18:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Most of the external links in the article should be removed per WP:EL, WP:SPAM, and WP:NOT#LINK -- Ronz 15:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
The result of the move debate was move to Windows shell replacement. Lox ( t, c) 08:26, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Desktop shell replacement → Windows shell replacement — This article is specific just for Windows OS. Thus the title must be specified. (See discussion above) — ΑΜακυχα Θ 03:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
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Wikipedia's naming conventions.Progman.exe could also be replaced. 132.205.99.122 ( talk) 19:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Not only it *could* be replaced, replacing it was far more popular than in later incarnations of Windows. I can name offhand four big-time Programan.exe replacements: Norton Desktop for Windows, Central Point Desktop, HP Dashboard and HP NewWave. MCBastos ( talk) 18:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
ROS Explorer now redirects to ReactOS which is now more than just a shell replacement. It is an entire operating system. 70.152.148.230 ( talk) 18:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
May I request a page for DarkStep and also explorer.exe restoration? I see you removed my links for DarkStep - ok it doesn't have a page, I'm new to Wiki and I don't feel like writing a page to have to deleted. I though I saw a place you can request such a thing.
I installed DarkStep and spent about 5 hours trying to restore my windows shell since darkstep has no uninstaller, I had to registery hack and everything. I think if there was more info on Wiki about this mod I might of been out of that mess sooner. Thanks, Zeek (drsuds)
From the Cairo FAQ Page: "Will Cairo be free?
Cairo will be freeware, which means we will not require a fee for using our software. However, Cairo is closed source and not available for duplication." Can someone please proof this? The commited source is not reachable. -- 78.43.220.170 ( talk) 17:54, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
I have noticed this too. I had contacted the Development team who made Cairo and they said they are not owned by a company but they will not release the code (The Building Blocks) of the Program to avoid duplicates of the same software. I had made a edit to the list saying "Closed Source but free" to avoid any confusion. Alex9113 ( talk) 18:54, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Now Open Source:
http://cairoshell.com/ — Preceding
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02:16, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
I tagged the article with create-list. There's not much content here apart from the list. The details from the lead (which is unreferenced at the moment) can easily be moved to Windows shell. Its new title could be List of Windows shell replacements. -- Pnm ( talk) 03:21, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm removing the {Unreferenced} tag. This is simply a list where the vast majority of entries refer to their wikipedia page. The only objections I could really see is if an item in the list were disputed for it's lack of notability. If you put the tag back, please be specific in what you would like to have referenced. Thanks! - Xcal68 ( talk) 19:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
This notice [1] originally listed here [2] (now dead) would indicate it's open source as of a couple years ago. Also, the original source can be found here [3], with a newer branch here [4]. The notice reads as follows:
The faq listed here [5] is outdated. - Xcal68 ( talk) 19:36, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Pokki shouldn't figure on that list. It is a known cause of issues on all computers including the infiltration of adwares, spywares and virusses... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.138.194.252 ( talk) 08:45, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Why is ReactOS in the list? It's not a shell, it's a whole standalone Operating System outside of and nothing to do with booting into Windows. May as well include Ubuntu if ReactOS is included.
The link used for KDE on Windows does not state that it is discontinued, yet that is what is being claimed by the page. In fact, the link states the dead opposite. The link states that KDE on Windows has been moved into the main KDE Continuous Integration (CI) suite, of which the Windows specific build data can be found here: https://build.kde.org/view/OS%20-%20Windows/ As of this writing, KDE on Windows seems to be compiling fine and being distributed as individual application packages instead of one giant installer, which is what the link was trying to state. Recommend a real editor verify this and make the change after verification. I would rather not change this myself in the event I might have misinterpreted something page-specific. 100.36.94.33 ( talk) 12:02, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello! I came across this page and notices that Blackbox was listed, the problem is that Blackbox is for unix like operating systems and not for windows. 172.220.225.46 ( talk) 18:50, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Blackbox For Windows is listed as active in the list, yet all indications point to the project being discontinued. The official website for it has the latest version being released in 2009 ( http://bb4win.sourceforge.net/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Badasahog ( talk • contribs) 16:07, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
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I have removed references to HoverDesk and Desktop X because they are not shell replacements. Shell replacements replace explorer.exe as the Windows shell. HoverDesk and Desktop X are GUI enhancements: Explorer is still the shell when these apps are running, and they are running as apps on top of the shell, not as the shell themselves. They belong to a class of software that includes Winstep (NextStart and WorkShelf) and which significantly change the look and feel of the Windows GUI without replacing Explorer as the shell. Canonblack 19:33, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
I quite agree. I just edited the name of Windows GUI shell to explorer.exe but I now find it links to File Explorer, er nope. Is there a way to change that ? Bold-basher ( talk) 00:40, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Since this is a Windows-specific phenomenon, instead of calling this articke "Desktop shell replacement," perhaps a more suitable title would be "Explorer shell replacement?" (Or "Explorer.exe shell replacement") — Tokek 11:55, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
"Computer users with the desire can modify explorer.exe extensively."
Isn't that illegal? Josh 18:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Most of the external links in the article should be removed per WP:EL, WP:SPAM, and WP:NOT#LINK -- Ronz 15:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
The result of the move debate was move to Windows shell replacement. Lox ( t, c) 08:26, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Desktop shell replacement → Windows shell replacement — This article is specific just for Windows OS. Thus the title must be specified. (See discussion above) — ΑΜακυχα Θ 03:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with ~~~~
. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's naming conventions.Progman.exe could also be replaced. 132.205.99.122 ( talk) 19:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Not only it *could* be replaced, replacing it was far more popular than in later incarnations of Windows. I can name offhand four big-time Programan.exe replacements: Norton Desktop for Windows, Central Point Desktop, HP Dashboard and HP NewWave. MCBastos ( talk) 18:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
ROS Explorer now redirects to ReactOS which is now more than just a shell replacement. It is an entire operating system. 70.152.148.230 ( talk) 18:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
May I request a page for DarkStep and also explorer.exe restoration? I see you removed my links for DarkStep - ok it doesn't have a page, I'm new to Wiki and I don't feel like writing a page to have to deleted. I though I saw a place you can request such a thing.
I installed DarkStep and spent about 5 hours trying to restore my windows shell since darkstep has no uninstaller, I had to registery hack and everything. I think if there was more info on Wiki about this mod I might of been out of that mess sooner. Thanks, Zeek (drsuds)
From the Cairo FAQ Page: "Will Cairo be free?
Cairo will be freeware, which means we will not require a fee for using our software. However, Cairo is closed source and not available for duplication." Can someone please proof this? The commited source is not reachable. -- 78.43.220.170 ( talk) 17:54, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
I have noticed this too. I had contacted the Development team who made Cairo and they said they are not owned by a company but they will not release the code (The Building Blocks) of the Program to avoid duplicates of the same software. I had made a edit to the list saying "Closed Source but free" to avoid any confusion. Alex9113 ( talk) 18:54, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Now Open Source:
http://cairoshell.com/ — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
2604:6000:1117:8119:A55D:E12E:6543:D9B7 (
talk)
02:16, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
I tagged the article with create-list. There's not much content here apart from the list. The details from the lead (which is unreferenced at the moment) can easily be moved to Windows shell. Its new title could be List of Windows shell replacements. -- Pnm ( talk) 03:21, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm removing the {Unreferenced} tag. This is simply a list where the vast majority of entries refer to their wikipedia page. The only objections I could really see is if an item in the list were disputed for it's lack of notability. If you put the tag back, please be specific in what you would like to have referenced. Thanks! - Xcal68 ( talk) 19:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
This notice [1] originally listed here [2] (now dead) would indicate it's open source as of a couple years ago. Also, the original source can be found here [3], with a newer branch here [4]. The notice reads as follows:
The faq listed here [5] is outdated. - Xcal68 ( talk) 19:36, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Pokki shouldn't figure on that list. It is a known cause of issues on all computers including the infiltration of adwares, spywares and virusses... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.138.194.252 ( talk) 08:45, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Why is ReactOS in the list? It's not a shell, it's a whole standalone Operating System outside of and nothing to do with booting into Windows. May as well include Ubuntu if ReactOS is included.
The link used for KDE on Windows does not state that it is discontinued, yet that is what is being claimed by the page. In fact, the link states the dead opposite. The link states that KDE on Windows has been moved into the main KDE Continuous Integration (CI) suite, of which the Windows specific build data can be found here: https://build.kde.org/view/OS%20-%20Windows/ As of this writing, KDE on Windows seems to be compiling fine and being distributed as individual application packages instead of one giant installer, which is what the link was trying to state. Recommend a real editor verify this and make the change after verification. I would rather not change this myself in the event I might have misinterpreted something page-specific. 100.36.94.33 ( talk) 12:02, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello! I came across this page and notices that Blackbox was listed, the problem is that Blackbox is for unix like operating systems and not for windows. 172.220.225.46 ( talk) 18:50, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Blackbox For Windows is listed as active in the list, yet all indications point to the project being discontinued. The official website for it has the latest version being released in 2009 ( http://bb4win.sourceforge.net/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Badasahog ( talk • contribs) 16:07, 22 September 2022 (UTC)