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The section for Russia is a complete non-sense. E.g., there is not such a thing at all as assistant professor. Also it is not clear what is what, as there is no standard translation. It should refer to Russian names of positions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.96.104.206 ( talk) 18:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I wonder, should one include the US terms for undergraduate students: freshman, sophomore, junior, and senior? Or would that be irrelevant, plain wrong, or going too far (down the ranks)? In Norway, btw, we just call those people Nth year students. -- Wernher 22:53, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I was not aware of the distinction suggested by the article between "Department Head" as an elected position and "Department Chair" as an appointed one. Is there any reference to back the article's claim ? 200.177.29.149 23:49, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I've been a student at Canadian universities for longer than I like to think about, and I've never, ever, heard the term "frosh" used for first-year students, casually or formally. We don't tend to use "freshman," "sophomore," etc., either, but "frosh" in particular strikes me as a strong Americanism. Never been to school back east, but I know many people who have, and they don't use the term either. 142.36.71.172 22:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Wouldn't List of academic ranks be a more appropriate page title given it is just a list? Wongm ( talk) 16:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
I notice that this page doesn't have much in the way of supporting references. Here's a possible source if anyone wants it: http://www.iue.it/MaxWeberProgramme/AcademicCareers/AcademicCareers.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.83.222.100 ( talk) 16:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Could you people help in clarifying which of these ranks requires a PhD? For a few of the countries listed, this is stated, but not all. And to my best understanding, not all the titles listed in this article do require a doctoral degree. AmirOnWiki ( talk) 17:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Various capitalization styles were in place in this article so I made a pass to bring all the English titles into line with our manual of style as it pertains to titles. Basically, Wikipedia views titles as common nouns unless they precede a person's name where they are seen as part of the name and thus become proper names. I didn't change the orthography of any foreign terms (e.g. Rektor, Profesora) since I'm not sure how we should deal with them. For example, the Egypt section use all upper case for the local terms. I lean towards treating anything written in a Roman alphabet the same as we do in English and leaving everything else (e.g. Cyrillic, Kanji, Chinese) as is. I'd appreciate input on that. Joja lozzo 00:16, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Some sections have the local title first followed by the English translation and notes. Some have the English term followed by the local term followed by notes. Some just have the English term without a local term. Various punctuation styles are used also (colons, commas, dashes) to separate the components of each entry. Would it improve the article if there were more consistency from section to section? If so, is there a section we can use as a model and can we extract a set of simple guidelines to help new editors work here without making more work for others? Joja lozzo 00:16, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
"Bangladesh" - "Assistant professor" refers to "Professors in the United States". I know I could potentially edit this myself, but I don't think I fully grasp all relevant pages and their redirects involved to rectify this. 157.193.250.13 ( talk) 13:18, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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Should we replace the lists of academic ranks here with links to articles on academic ranks for the various geographic regions when such articles exist? Joja lozzo 03:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
I started this RFC because a discussion among a few editors at Talk:Professor led to an editor replacing the lists of academic ranks here with links to existing articles on academic ranks for the various geographic regions. This may be a fine idea but it seems prudent to allow those active on this page to have a say in how this page is managed. To see the results of these replacements, see here. Joja lozzo 03:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
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Joja lozzo 03:56, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Academic ranks:
Types of employment:
Why can't I find the United States on this page? Kdammers ( talk) 21:41, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
How is "rank" distinct from "job title"? Can we clarify this in the text? Perhaps an example of a job such as vice-chancellor, often performed by a professor? EdwardFlach ( talk) 23:26, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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I’m from Canada and I have never heard of “research chairman”. It’s “research chair”, at least in Ontario. al12si ( talk) 22:13, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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In the Portugal section, it says:
"Extinct ranks:
At least in FEUP, Assistente still exists, it is not extinct. I was one for a few years. PhD students are usually called "Assistentes" because they have not completed the PhD yet, therefore cannot be called Professors. You can see that there are many "Assistentes" in FEUP if you go to the search page, then press button next to the "category" section https://sigarra.up.pt/feup/pt/FUNC_GERAL.FORMQUERY
There are also "monitors", which are students that help with a specific course -- these are typically bachelor or master students, who are still completing the degree but have already completed that course with distinction.
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The section for Russia is a complete non-sense. E.g., there is not such a thing at all as assistant professor. Also it is not clear what is what, as there is no standard translation. It should refer to Russian names of positions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.96.104.206 ( talk) 18:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I wonder, should one include the US terms for undergraduate students: freshman, sophomore, junior, and senior? Or would that be irrelevant, plain wrong, or going too far (down the ranks)? In Norway, btw, we just call those people Nth year students. -- Wernher 22:53, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I was not aware of the distinction suggested by the article between "Department Head" as an elected position and "Department Chair" as an appointed one. Is there any reference to back the article's claim ? 200.177.29.149 23:49, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I've been a student at Canadian universities for longer than I like to think about, and I've never, ever, heard the term "frosh" used for first-year students, casually or formally. We don't tend to use "freshman," "sophomore," etc., either, but "frosh" in particular strikes me as a strong Americanism. Never been to school back east, but I know many people who have, and they don't use the term either. 142.36.71.172 22:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Wouldn't List of academic ranks be a more appropriate page title given it is just a list? Wongm ( talk) 16:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
I notice that this page doesn't have much in the way of supporting references. Here's a possible source if anyone wants it: http://www.iue.it/MaxWeberProgramme/AcademicCareers/AcademicCareers.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.83.222.100 ( talk) 16:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Could you people help in clarifying which of these ranks requires a PhD? For a few of the countries listed, this is stated, but not all. And to my best understanding, not all the titles listed in this article do require a doctoral degree. AmirOnWiki ( talk) 17:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Various capitalization styles were in place in this article so I made a pass to bring all the English titles into line with our manual of style as it pertains to titles. Basically, Wikipedia views titles as common nouns unless they precede a person's name where they are seen as part of the name and thus become proper names. I didn't change the orthography of any foreign terms (e.g. Rektor, Profesora) since I'm not sure how we should deal with them. For example, the Egypt section use all upper case for the local terms. I lean towards treating anything written in a Roman alphabet the same as we do in English and leaving everything else (e.g. Cyrillic, Kanji, Chinese) as is. I'd appreciate input on that. Joja lozzo 00:16, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Some sections have the local title first followed by the English translation and notes. Some have the English term followed by the local term followed by notes. Some just have the English term without a local term. Various punctuation styles are used also (colons, commas, dashes) to separate the components of each entry. Would it improve the article if there were more consistency from section to section? If so, is there a section we can use as a model and can we extract a set of simple guidelines to help new editors work here without making more work for others? Joja lozzo 00:16, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
"Bangladesh" - "Assistant professor" refers to "Professors in the United States". I know I could potentially edit this myself, but I don't think I fully grasp all relevant pages and their redirects involved to rectify this. 157.193.250.13 ( talk) 13:18, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Should we replace the lists of academic ranks here with links to articles on academic ranks for the various geographic regions when such articles exist? Joja lozzo 03:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
I started this RFC because a discussion among a few editors at Talk:Professor led to an editor replacing the lists of academic ranks here with links to existing articles on academic ranks for the various geographic regions. This may be a fine idea but it seems prudent to allow those active on this page to have a say in how this page is managed. To see the results of these replacements, see here. Joja lozzo 03:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Comments
Joja lozzo 03:56, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Academic ranks:
Types of employment:
Why can't I find the United States on this page? Kdammers ( talk) 21:41, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
How is "rank" distinct from "job title"? Can we clarify this in the text? Perhaps an example of a job such as vice-chancellor, often performed by a professor? EdwardFlach ( talk) 23:26, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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I’m from Canada and I have never heard of “research chairman”. It’s “research chair”, at least in Ontario. al12si ( talk) 22:13, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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A Request for comment has been initiated regarding RfC about whether to allow use of honorofic 'Allama' with the names or not?
Requesting your comments to formalize the relevant policy @ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles
Thanks
Bookku ( talk) 18:01, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
In the Portugal section, it says:
"Extinct ranks:
At least in FEUP, Assistente still exists, it is not extinct. I was one for a few years. PhD students are usually called "Assistentes" because they have not completed the PhD yet, therefore cannot be called Professors. You can see that there are many "Assistentes" in FEUP if you go to the search page, then press button next to the "category" section https://sigarra.up.pt/feup/pt/FUNC_GERAL.FORMQUERY
There are also "monitors", which are students that help with a specific course -- these are typically bachelor or master students, who are still completing the degree but have already completed that course with distinction.