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So where did everything go? Erased because your bias couldn't get over the fact that numerous viable sources were supplied but you just don't want to add RWJ to the list? Why was everything taken down? Add Ray William Johnson, or restore the information and sources we had here! Underwoodl06 ( talk) 03:16, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
~I agree, we need a serious revolt here. Throw out the two prejudiced admins who can't even follow their own standards. We, the wikipedia community want RWJ on the list, and there have been dozens of logical reasons to put him there. Rjc34 ( talk) 06:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
I agree too, RWJ is more famous than many other YouTube personalities on this list. virus_boss ( talk) 16:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
But this is a list about youtube personalities why is notability outside of youtube a requirement?, also I doubt anyone will 'get it' you have no argument to stand on, this is a list of youtube personalities, rwj is a youtube personality with a wide fanbase. There is nothing to get, the fifth pillar allows for bending of the rules when they get in the way of improving an article, also some of those discussions weren't 30 days old 72.209.160.88 ( talk) 05:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
[More comments redacted. Stop attacking people. Fences& Windows 00:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Okay then, Seeing as I am 'Attacking' when I am not mentioning anybody by name, I will stop editing here and let everyone figure this out for themselves. I will no longer be fighting this battle even though the people talking on this page have admitted they have added non-notable people on the list but they stopped when RWJ came into play. They have agreed that some people shouldbe taken off of the list, but they will not be the ones to do it and that others should go ahead and remove those who don't 'meet the criteria set forth by years of discussions on WP', but it was perfectly alright for them to remove RWJ when he appeared on the list, or add anybody that was removed by another editor. They have brought me up by name on this talk page because I was 'attacking' them and they have mentioned me by name on their own user talk pages so I will be notifying the administrators of WP. As far as this battle goes, I give up because we know how people here can get and won't stop trying to rule 'their page'. With a website edited by the people, I can hardly see that these discussions are relevant since they always seem to be up to the person that spends his entire day eyeing the page for the slightest change and have nothing better to do than 'be in charge' of the information here. WP no longer registers in my most trusted sources since this whole website can be editted by anybody on any terms so as they see fit, along with IMDB and personal blogs. I will not 'attack' anybody (since I never mentioned any names at all in my posts) although I am sure my name will circulate here for quite a bit of time since it is alright for them to attack me. Good luck WP community on your fight to add one of the most notable people on YouTube and I hope you aren't running into the same BS I have been pushed into due to my 'personal attacks' on nobody in particular (because we all know that a general group includes names). And as always for those intent to get the greatest internet celebrity added here, "Keep on Trollin'" Underwoodl06 ( talk) 04:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
{{ edit protected}} With 53 current subscribers and less then 5000 total channel views the level required for notoriety has not been reached. -- Seanet1310 ( talk) 07:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Currently there is no citation credible or otherwise on this page for Joe as such this should be rectified with a reliable source as required by other youtube personalities to be added or should be removed to meat wikipedia standards. -- Seanet1310 ( talk) 07:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)--
I definitely think that he should be present on this list. He has almost 750 thousand subscribers, and is the 39th most subscribed Youtuber. He has many well known videos, including several of his literal trailers. Also, he has donme several none internet things as a result of his Youtube popularity. A quick Google search gets several articles about him: 1, 2, and there are others out there. And for this reason, I think that he should be added to this list. Discdeath ( talk) 19:35, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Well, someone should add him then. Personally, I think the dude's hilarious. He's been taken under the wing of Philip DeFranco, AKA sxephil. PokeHomsar ( talk) 04:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Whilst I kind of suck at finding links to anything, I can tell you that he has been involved in several things which may indicate notability. He was a contestant in that "Just Dance Off" thing a while ago. He took a part in something to do with the Sony Internet T.V., Ubisoft paid a lot of attention to one of his literal Trailers of their games, and lots of other things. As I said, I'm bad at finding links, but I can provide links to some of his videos which show him in these events (although I doubt that they count). Sony T.V., Just Dance 2 thing. Discdeath ( talk) 19:42, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
I think it might be hard to find sources on him. When one is found, then by all means bring it to our attention and it will be looked at. Mr. C.C. Hey yo! I didn't do it! 01:55, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Once again, I'm not totally sure if this would count. But it's him on "Youtube Spotlight", which I think would mark him as somewhat notable, but I'm not totally sure. Discdeath ( talk) 12:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
And so Tobuscus has surpassed Daneboe, and is coming up close (within 20,000 subscribers) to SHAYTARDS. Both of them are on the list. I guess I'll just keep up the article search. I wonder if Toby knows about the great battle to get him onto Wikipedia. Lol. -- Arkatox ( talk) 23:27, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Does she deserve to be on here? I mean she does have well over 50 million views , hundreds of videos and a huge following — Preceding unsigned comment added by McGill999 ( talk • contribs) 05:05, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
This page was locked because of two people who are going against everyone else on this page! This is Wikipedia, the encyclopedia of the people (that's what wiki stands for,) so why in God's name can two people hijack a page against everyone else?
Add Ray Wlliam Johnson, as he is clearly a YOUTUBE personality. It doesn't matter if 100% of the non-YouTube community doesn't have any idea who he is. That's not the point. This isn't a list of simple "media personalities," this is a list of YouTube celebrities. He's the second most subscribed YouTube personality in the world. His videos have been viewed over 800 million times. That's more than twice the population of the United States! PokeHomsar ( talk) 00:33, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Good Luck and 'Keep on Trollin' Underwoodl06 ( talk) 05:01, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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Kevin T Thoms is a technically a youtube personality. Sectus ( talk) 23:33, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
This is for Ray William Johnson's inclusion of the article. His channel can be found here
I simply don't understand the reasoning behind RWJ's exclusion. Sure he may not have full-blown reports written about by the New York Times or such, but the opposing side in my opinion is not being reasonable. He is the second most subscribed user on the entire website of YouTube, consistently tops the site's "Most Viewed" page and has collaborated with other personalities that are on the list already. He has been mentioned in many articles written by notable, reliable sources (check above for all the given sources; not all fit I concede, but several do). If these references are taken as a whole, then yes I do think it is reasonable to include RWJ to achieve consensus, which is a Wikipedia guideline.
For those who do not agree with his inclusion, please just add a " importance?", " who?", or even " dubious – discuss" after RWJ's potential entry, instead of leaving him out entirely. This is in effort to achieve a compromise, and would result in less edit warring, IMO. -- Chiefmartinez ( talk) 04:26, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Dear collegues,
Ronald Jenkees was added again as a youtube celebrity. I've discovered him through this article about year ago. Then he disappeared from the article, I was looking for him for the last 6 months, including asking people in this discussion ([ |Disappeared celebrity, 21 January, 2011]). Before deleting him again, please, take a look at what he does.
Yours sincerely, Ivan
-- 91.79.198.121 ( talk) 02:58, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Look, I get it. Mr CC and SoWhy will continue their campaign against Johnson. I would spoof them but I think Poe's law would come into play. (Any possible spoof I could do of them would just sound like them.) So, rather than add RWJ with an unreasonable number of references, and be threatened by the dynamic duo with banning or worse, I will simply list the sources here:
This Tubefilter article says "Johnson continues to tear up the most subscribed list on YouTube and seems ready to knock Ryan Higa off this top spot later this spring at the rate he’s going." This is a clear indication of his notability and his staying power. The article predicts that he will take over as the most subscribed producer on YouTube.
2 -> http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/03/club-villain-lord-voldemort-greeted-vader-with-a-fist-pound/
In this piece by Wired, Johnson is credited with creation of viral video . (He has so many viewers that by reviewing a video he gives it notoriety.)
3 -> http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/what-does-co-za-asy-mean-youtube-2763300.html
This article by Now Public credits Johnson with the creation of a meme. (Johnson’s mispronunciation of a polish comment on one of his videos has become a phrase in common use on the internet.)
4 -> http://adage.com/article/digital/youtube-s-premium-content-strategy-starts-shape/149373/
Ad Age confirms Johnson’s status as second most subscribed on YouTube.
5 -> http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2011/03/bay_city_mans_taco_bell_order.html
The Bay City times credits Johnson with causing an otherwise relatively dormant video to become viral by reviewing it. In just over a year it got 16000 views and then, after Johnson reviewed it, it received 900,000 in two weeks. He used his notoriety to make another video famous.
6 -> http://www.inishowennews.com/011YouTubeViral078.htm
This Inishowen Independent discusses a video become viral after “YouTube Superstar” Johnson reviewed it on his show. More transference of Notoriety.
The UK’s Independent lists YouTubes most watched videos and Johnson appears twice in the top ten list. (This is a major UK newspaper)
The San Francisco Chronicle calls Johnson a “YouTube Star” and notes that he is credited with four of the most viewed YouTube videos of the week.
9 -> http://www.businessinsider.com/top-viral-videos-of-the-week-11-2011-3#how-the-videos-are-ranked-1
The Business Insider credits Johnson with 2 of the top ten most viewed videos of the week.
10 -> http://www.businessinsider.com/bidding-wars-breakout-over-youtubes-front-page-2010-2
The Business insider, in an article about “Web Celebrities” states that Johnson averages more views than CBS each week.
11 -> http://www.businessinsider.com/most-watched-videos-of-september-2010-9
Johnson credited with second most view viral video of the week behind Justin Beiber - September 2011. The article also credits Johnson with an average daily 1.6 million viewers.
12 -> http://www.businessinsider.com/top-10-viral-videos-of-october-2010-11
The Business Insider says that Johnson “continued his dominance of the internet” and credits him with holding seven spots on the list of the top 100 most watched viral videos list and that four of those are in the top 15.
While Batman and Robin might be able to come up with reasons that some of these individual videos do not stand on their own as enough recognition of RJW's notoriety, they certainly do collectively. The San Francisco Chronicle refers to him as a YouTube Star and there are countless examples of his show being in the top rated Viral videos and the Top Rated YouTube videos. This page IS supposed to be a list of YouTube personalities -- Johnson is nothing if he is not that.
75.61.129.106 ( talk) 05:41, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
There are a lot of links here, some of which I haven't seen yet. I'm going to try to read all of the links mentioned above this week, and determine for myself if there is enough there yet to warrant notability or not. I know firsthand that sometimes Wikipedia editors can develop biases, so I want to be sure for myself that the current majority opinion (i.e. not notable enough yet) is still the correct one. Not saying I'll change my mind, just saying I'll keep an open one. ;) -- Jonnybgoode44 ( talk) 00:49, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Should Rebecca Black be added? Whole bunch of potential sources here:
http://news.google.co.nz/news/more?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=bJq&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&q=rebecca+black&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dDu5kQ9ajYWjdZM1w6hY5cdZrGHwM&ei=VaeATYDFL4uisAPy34SUBg&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CC0QqgIwAA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.239.247.220 ( talk) 18:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
This page is a list of YouTube #1's, just because you seem to have a personal vendetta against the bloke does not mean that you can discard the second most subscribed youtuber in the world from the list. This is not a list of who you think is good or credible. It is a list of Youtube personalities. Based on his extreme popularity on YOUTUBE i would say he is far more of a famous youtube personality than most of the other people on the page. As for credibility and sources what more do you want than his huge popularity. You say that number of subscribers is not relevant, however wikipedia is a public site and the public have made him popular. so, stop being such a gradge holding idiot and and him to the list.
First of all this is not a popular video maker but ... maker of Ball Rollers 3 by theawsomeness33 you are amazing! i heard all the filming done was from an ipod or iphone also his or her video was hilarious. So our #1 video is Ball Rollers 3 and also Trampoline Basketball by theawsomeness33.
to find out more good videos go to theawsomeness33's youtube page they have all great videos go check it out now.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by ALLNET11 ( talk) 01:04, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oyr36vhxRU —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.189.168.27 ( talk) 11:06, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Mr. C.C. here is just creating excuses to keep RWJ off this list at this point. PokeHomsar ( talk) 18:38, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Like Shay Carl does not have a Wikipedia article. He's a mega youtube star, but there's no article for him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Themastertree ( talk • contribs) 08:48, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
What are the criteria for inclusion on List of YouTube personalities?
Cunard ( talk) 22:48, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
I agree with #1 as long as the most stressed point is subscribers. In other words, every person in the top 10 subscribed in the world should be on the list. (I think everyone in the top 10 has over a million subscribers by now.) PokeHomsar ( talk) 03:49, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
It looks like people have been testing you, Mr. C.C. You only care about RWJ. At least one person has been added to the list with just his/her YouTube page as a source since you started your crusade. You apparently didn't notice. Since I like the person, I'm not gonna remove it myself. I want people to see your tunnel vision. PokeHomsar ( talk) 04:10, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Thank you, SoWhy, for finally taking our side in this matter. Mr. C.C., for some reason, has a personal vendetta against RWJ that I can't explain for the life of me. PokeHomsar ( talk) 21:25, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Our argument was that RWJ was notable on YouTube, which being #2 gave him without a shadow of a doubt. Although both of you used the rules to justify leaving off the dude at #2 (and #1 by the end of this month,) we argued that this was a notability on YouTube list, not a notability in general list. Using YouTube to source it makes sense in the sense that this is "YouTube personalities" not "media personalities" or anything else. But I guess making sense is impossible in the face of bureaucracy. PokeHomsar ( talk) 03:32, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
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So where did everything go? Erased because your bias couldn't get over the fact that numerous viable sources were supplied but you just don't want to add RWJ to the list? Why was everything taken down? Add Ray William Johnson, or restore the information and sources we had here! Underwoodl06 ( talk) 03:16, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
~I agree, we need a serious revolt here. Throw out the two prejudiced admins who can't even follow their own standards. We, the wikipedia community want RWJ on the list, and there have been dozens of logical reasons to put him there. Rjc34 ( talk) 06:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
I agree too, RWJ is more famous than many other YouTube personalities on this list. virus_boss ( talk) 16:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
But this is a list about youtube personalities why is notability outside of youtube a requirement?, also I doubt anyone will 'get it' you have no argument to stand on, this is a list of youtube personalities, rwj is a youtube personality with a wide fanbase. There is nothing to get, the fifth pillar allows for bending of the rules when they get in the way of improving an article, also some of those discussions weren't 30 days old 72.209.160.88 ( talk) 05:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
[More comments redacted. Stop attacking people. Fences& Windows 00:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Okay then, Seeing as I am 'Attacking' when I am not mentioning anybody by name, I will stop editing here and let everyone figure this out for themselves. I will no longer be fighting this battle even though the people talking on this page have admitted they have added non-notable people on the list but they stopped when RWJ came into play. They have agreed that some people shouldbe taken off of the list, but they will not be the ones to do it and that others should go ahead and remove those who don't 'meet the criteria set forth by years of discussions on WP', but it was perfectly alright for them to remove RWJ when he appeared on the list, or add anybody that was removed by another editor. They have brought me up by name on this talk page because I was 'attacking' them and they have mentioned me by name on their own user talk pages so I will be notifying the administrators of WP. As far as this battle goes, I give up because we know how people here can get and won't stop trying to rule 'their page'. With a website edited by the people, I can hardly see that these discussions are relevant since they always seem to be up to the person that spends his entire day eyeing the page for the slightest change and have nothing better to do than 'be in charge' of the information here. WP no longer registers in my most trusted sources since this whole website can be editted by anybody on any terms so as they see fit, along with IMDB and personal blogs. I will not 'attack' anybody (since I never mentioned any names at all in my posts) although I am sure my name will circulate here for quite a bit of time since it is alright for them to attack me. Good luck WP community on your fight to add one of the most notable people on YouTube and I hope you aren't running into the same BS I have been pushed into due to my 'personal attacks' on nobody in particular (because we all know that a general group includes names). And as always for those intent to get the greatest internet celebrity added here, "Keep on Trollin'" Underwoodl06 ( talk) 04:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
{{ edit protected}} With 53 current subscribers and less then 5000 total channel views the level required for notoriety has not been reached. -- Seanet1310 ( talk) 07:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Currently there is no citation credible or otherwise on this page for Joe as such this should be rectified with a reliable source as required by other youtube personalities to be added or should be removed to meat wikipedia standards. -- Seanet1310 ( talk) 07:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)--
I definitely think that he should be present on this list. He has almost 750 thousand subscribers, and is the 39th most subscribed Youtuber. He has many well known videos, including several of his literal trailers. Also, he has donme several none internet things as a result of his Youtube popularity. A quick Google search gets several articles about him: 1, 2, and there are others out there. And for this reason, I think that he should be added to this list. Discdeath ( talk) 19:35, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Well, someone should add him then. Personally, I think the dude's hilarious. He's been taken under the wing of Philip DeFranco, AKA sxephil. PokeHomsar ( talk) 04:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Whilst I kind of suck at finding links to anything, I can tell you that he has been involved in several things which may indicate notability. He was a contestant in that "Just Dance Off" thing a while ago. He took a part in something to do with the Sony Internet T.V., Ubisoft paid a lot of attention to one of his literal Trailers of their games, and lots of other things. As I said, I'm bad at finding links, but I can provide links to some of his videos which show him in these events (although I doubt that they count). Sony T.V., Just Dance 2 thing. Discdeath ( talk) 19:42, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
I think it might be hard to find sources on him. When one is found, then by all means bring it to our attention and it will be looked at. Mr. C.C. Hey yo! I didn't do it! 01:55, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Once again, I'm not totally sure if this would count. But it's him on "Youtube Spotlight", which I think would mark him as somewhat notable, but I'm not totally sure. Discdeath ( talk) 12:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
And so Tobuscus has surpassed Daneboe, and is coming up close (within 20,000 subscribers) to SHAYTARDS. Both of them are on the list. I guess I'll just keep up the article search. I wonder if Toby knows about the great battle to get him onto Wikipedia. Lol. -- Arkatox ( talk) 23:27, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Does she deserve to be on here? I mean she does have well over 50 million views , hundreds of videos and a huge following — Preceding unsigned comment added by McGill999 ( talk • contribs) 05:05, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
This page was locked because of two people who are going against everyone else on this page! This is Wikipedia, the encyclopedia of the people (that's what wiki stands for,) so why in God's name can two people hijack a page against everyone else?
Add Ray Wlliam Johnson, as he is clearly a YOUTUBE personality. It doesn't matter if 100% of the non-YouTube community doesn't have any idea who he is. That's not the point. This isn't a list of simple "media personalities," this is a list of YouTube celebrities. He's the second most subscribed YouTube personality in the world. His videos have been viewed over 800 million times. That's more than twice the population of the United States! PokeHomsar ( talk) 00:33, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Good Luck and 'Keep on Trollin' Underwoodl06 ( talk) 05:01, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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69.9.81.236 ( talk) 14:24, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
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Kevin T Thoms is a technically a youtube personality. Sectus ( talk) 23:33, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
This is for Ray William Johnson's inclusion of the article. His channel can be found here
I simply don't understand the reasoning behind RWJ's exclusion. Sure he may not have full-blown reports written about by the New York Times or such, but the opposing side in my opinion is not being reasonable. He is the second most subscribed user on the entire website of YouTube, consistently tops the site's "Most Viewed" page and has collaborated with other personalities that are on the list already. He has been mentioned in many articles written by notable, reliable sources (check above for all the given sources; not all fit I concede, but several do). If these references are taken as a whole, then yes I do think it is reasonable to include RWJ to achieve consensus, which is a Wikipedia guideline.
For those who do not agree with his inclusion, please just add a " importance?", " who?", or even " dubious – discuss" after RWJ's potential entry, instead of leaving him out entirely. This is in effort to achieve a compromise, and would result in less edit warring, IMO. -- Chiefmartinez ( talk) 04:26, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Dear collegues,
Ronald Jenkees was added again as a youtube celebrity. I've discovered him through this article about year ago. Then he disappeared from the article, I was looking for him for the last 6 months, including asking people in this discussion ([ |Disappeared celebrity, 21 January, 2011]). Before deleting him again, please, take a look at what he does.
Yours sincerely, Ivan
-- 91.79.198.121 ( talk) 02:58, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Look, I get it. Mr CC and SoWhy will continue their campaign against Johnson. I would spoof them but I think Poe's law would come into play. (Any possible spoof I could do of them would just sound like them.) So, rather than add RWJ with an unreasonable number of references, and be threatened by the dynamic duo with banning or worse, I will simply list the sources here:
This Tubefilter article says "Johnson continues to tear up the most subscribed list on YouTube and seems ready to knock Ryan Higa off this top spot later this spring at the rate he’s going." This is a clear indication of his notability and his staying power. The article predicts that he will take over as the most subscribed producer on YouTube.
2 -> http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/03/club-villain-lord-voldemort-greeted-vader-with-a-fist-pound/
In this piece by Wired, Johnson is credited with creation of viral video . (He has so many viewers that by reviewing a video he gives it notoriety.)
3 -> http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/what-does-co-za-asy-mean-youtube-2763300.html
This article by Now Public credits Johnson with the creation of a meme. (Johnson’s mispronunciation of a polish comment on one of his videos has become a phrase in common use on the internet.)
4 -> http://adage.com/article/digital/youtube-s-premium-content-strategy-starts-shape/149373/
Ad Age confirms Johnson’s status as second most subscribed on YouTube.
5 -> http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2011/03/bay_city_mans_taco_bell_order.html
The Bay City times credits Johnson with causing an otherwise relatively dormant video to become viral by reviewing it. In just over a year it got 16000 views and then, after Johnson reviewed it, it received 900,000 in two weeks. He used his notoriety to make another video famous.
6 -> http://www.inishowennews.com/011YouTubeViral078.htm
This Inishowen Independent discusses a video become viral after “YouTube Superstar” Johnson reviewed it on his show. More transference of Notoriety.
The UK’s Independent lists YouTubes most watched videos and Johnson appears twice in the top ten list. (This is a major UK newspaper)
The San Francisco Chronicle calls Johnson a “YouTube Star” and notes that he is credited with four of the most viewed YouTube videos of the week.
9 -> http://www.businessinsider.com/top-viral-videos-of-the-week-11-2011-3#how-the-videos-are-ranked-1
The Business Insider credits Johnson with 2 of the top ten most viewed videos of the week.
10 -> http://www.businessinsider.com/bidding-wars-breakout-over-youtubes-front-page-2010-2
The Business insider, in an article about “Web Celebrities” states that Johnson averages more views than CBS each week.
11 -> http://www.businessinsider.com/most-watched-videos-of-september-2010-9
Johnson credited with second most view viral video of the week behind Justin Beiber - September 2011. The article also credits Johnson with an average daily 1.6 million viewers.
12 -> http://www.businessinsider.com/top-10-viral-videos-of-october-2010-11
The Business Insider says that Johnson “continued his dominance of the internet” and credits him with holding seven spots on the list of the top 100 most watched viral videos list and that four of those are in the top 15.
While Batman and Robin might be able to come up with reasons that some of these individual videos do not stand on their own as enough recognition of RJW's notoriety, they certainly do collectively. The San Francisco Chronicle refers to him as a YouTube Star and there are countless examples of his show being in the top rated Viral videos and the Top Rated YouTube videos. This page IS supposed to be a list of YouTube personalities -- Johnson is nothing if he is not that.
75.61.129.106 ( talk) 05:41, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
There are a lot of links here, some of which I haven't seen yet. I'm going to try to read all of the links mentioned above this week, and determine for myself if there is enough there yet to warrant notability or not. I know firsthand that sometimes Wikipedia editors can develop biases, so I want to be sure for myself that the current majority opinion (i.e. not notable enough yet) is still the correct one. Not saying I'll change my mind, just saying I'll keep an open one. ;) -- Jonnybgoode44 ( talk) 00:49, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Should Rebecca Black be added? Whole bunch of potential sources here:
http://news.google.co.nz/news/more?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=bJq&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&q=rebecca+black&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dDu5kQ9ajYWjdZM1w6hY5cdZrGHwM&ei=VaeATYDFL4uisAPy34SUBg&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CC0QqgIwAA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.239.247.220 ( talk) 18:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
This page is a list of YouTube #1's, just because you seem to have a personal vendetta against the bloke does not mean that you can discard the second most subscribed youtuber in the world from the list. This is not a list of who you think is good or credible. It is a list of Youtube personalities. Based on his extreme popularity on YOUTUBE i would say he is far more of a famous youtube personality than most of the other people on the page. As for credibility and sources what more do you want than his huge popularity. You say that number of subscribers is not relevant, however wikipedia is a public site and the public have made him popular. so, stop being such a gradge holding idiot and and him to the list.
First of all this is not a popular video maker but ... maker of Ball Rollers 3 by theawsomeness33 you are amazing! i heard all the filming done was from an ipod or iphone also his or her video was hilarious. So our #1 video is Ball Rollers 3 and also Trampoline Basketball by theawsomeness33.
to find out more good videos go to theawsomeness33's youtube page they have all great videos go check it out now.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by ALLNET11 ( talk) 01:04, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oyr36vhxRU —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.189.168.27 ( talk) 11:06, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Mr. C.C. here is just creating excuses to keep RWJ off this list at this point. PokeHomsar ( talk) 18:38, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Like Shay Carl does not have a Wikipedia article. He's a mega youtube star, but there's no article for him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Themastertree ( talk • contribs) 08:48, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
What are the criteria for inclusion on List of YouTube personalities?
Cunard ( talk) 22:48, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
I agree with #1 as long as the most stressed point is subscribers. In other words, every person in the top 10 subscribed in the world should be on the list. (I think everyone in the top 10 has over a million subscribers by now.) PokeHomsar ( talk) 03:49, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
It looks like people have been testing you, Mr. C.C. You only care about RWJ. At least one person has been added to the list with just his/her YouTube page as a source since you started your crusade. You apparently didn't notice. Since I like the person, I'm not gonna remove it myself. I want people to see your tunnel vision. PokeHomsar ( talk) 04:10, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Thank you, SoWhy, for finally taking our side in this matter. Mr. C.C., for some reason, has a personal vendetta against RWJ that I can't explain for the life of me. PokeHomsar ( talk) 21:25, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Our argument was that RWJ was notable on YouTube, which being #2 gave him without a shadow of a doubt. Although both of you used the rules to justify leaving off the dude at #2 (and #1 by the end of this month,) we argued that this was a notability on YouTube list, not a notability in general list. Using YouTube to source it makes sense in the sense that this is "YouTube personalities" not "media personalities" or anything else. But I guess making sense is impossible in the face of bureaucracy. PokeHomsar ( talk) 03:32, 7 April 2011 (UTC)