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Intercontinental Cup is a UEFA competition: [1] [2]
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-- Sporting1905 ( talk) 14:00, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
The Toyota Cup, unlike the Intercontinental Cup, wasn't organised by UEFA or FIFA and therefore should be excluded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.140.49.141 ( talk) 21:24, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Do you have any source for that? Toyota was supposedly only the sponsor, but the competition was still endorsed by the UEFA and Commebol- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.102.115.116 ( talk) 14:56, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
The FIFA Club World Cup shouldn't count as it is a FIFA competition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.247.64.141 ( talk) 03:27, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Why only amend Atletico's to add the 2007 IC?
They were a side winner, just like Napoli and Sampdoria, so why aren't their totals added on to?
So you close the editing part of this page without discussing? Just because of some Wikipedia power?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Intertoto_Cup#2006.E2.80.932008
Add new columns for all these winners too then and add Napoli etc to show 1 more title or NONE at all.
You can't just have Atletico's added on to and leave out the likes of Reid and Tabol.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.72.55 ( talk) 18:13, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Atletico Madrid has one Intertoto Cup. Check this http://es.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=50124/profile/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.83.81.12 ( talk) 00:58, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
It has no sense whatsoever to stop counting intercontinental titles just because the competition was taken over by FIFA. The title has the same worth and it is not fair that new winners don't get the credit. Either count all the titles or none of them. Surely this article should be about honouring the achievement of a team more than the act of blessing by a bureaucrat. This is Wikipedia so we should stop pretending we are writing official lists. We are not UEFA.com. When UEFA has some official rankings we should simply copy them, and where they don't we should make our own with no consideration of what competitions they have or haven't organized. The Intercontinetal Cup issue is especially ludicrous. And why not simply make another column for the Fairs Cup? Zhmr ( talk) 15:13, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
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Create a table with columns and lines to show the champions of each competition. The table should have the 7 columns (Year; UCL; CWC; UEL; UIC; USC; IC). In lines the specific years and champions clubs. The motif is to show diachronic and synchronic the importance of each phase and era tendencies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:431:F7A4:633C:9490:CE4C:E698:C77A ( talk) 20:07, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
FIFA recognise the ICFC as a major trophy, so why is it not included in any table of the most successful club sides in European football? BRACK66 ( talk) 00:32, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
This page completely fails to mention the UEFA Women's Champions League and the UEFA Youth League even though they are club competitions. They should either be included or the page should be retitled to "List of UEFA men's club competition winners". Two other problems are the UEFA Futsal Cup and the UEFA Regions' Cup, although I'm not entirely sure the latter counts as a club competition. Madshurtie ( talk) 15:27, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Seems to make little sense to not include the FIFA competition that is regarded as the biggest club tournament in the world in many countries and not just title the article "List of FIFA and UEFA Competition Winners". What do people think about its addition? I think it definitely should be added as you participate in it by winning a UEFA tournament, just like the UEFA Super Cup. Davefelmer ( talk) 02:35, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi,
As some editors pointed out, FIFA Club World Cup is not a UEFA competition and hence should not be included on this list. However, in my opinion, it would be reasonable to include FIFA Club World Cup titles, as this tournament is (or at least supposed to be) the pinnacle of club football. This list shouldn't be reduced to UEFA honors, we should instead rename it to " List of FIFA and UEFA club competition winners", so that all major international honors (except Fairs Cup) won by European clubs are included. Govnery ( talk) 07:42, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi,
my addition ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_UEFA_club_competition_winners&oldid=1121356436 ) of a list of winners by year was revised and therefore wanted to ask whether the list could then be included with the following changes:
(1) the logos could of course be removed
(2) if the color design is too much, the whole table can also be kept neutral in gray.
--->
I think the name of article List of UEFA club competition winners actually also implies a list of all winners per season and should therefore be implemented, if a consensus could be reached. Miria~01 ( talk) 22:51, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
I think it would be clearer and more informative to combine the statistics of non-existing associations with the associations that the winning clubs currently belong to in the table titled "List of UEFA club competition winners by country." For example, we could merge Yugoslavia with Serbia since Red Star Belgrade is now affiliated with the Serbian association. This approach would ensure greater consistency between the two tables, as the one labeled "List of UEFA club competition winners" already considers the current association. Additionally, we could include a footnote in the current country's entry, specifying the previous associations it encompasses. I believe this is what has been done in other football-related list of winners articles. Tanonero (msg) 11:45, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
I find the argument "It doesn't really matter if the Serbian FA inherited Yugoslav records or not" unconvincing. Why does it not matter? When creating a continuous ranking by country, the factor of inheritance must be taken into account. It doesn't seem logical to include non-existing countries in the rankings if their titles have been officially transferred to a new association that is currently competing. -- Tanonero (msg) 13:04, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for providing this example. However, I believe it would have been historically inaccurate to refer to those teams as anything other than Soviet or Yugoslav. Although I understand your argument regarding the database, I still think it demonstrates how uncontroversial it is to assign those trophies to their respective nations today. I can see we have opposite views, so I will defer to others who may be interested in joining the discussion, so I'll wait for someone who may be interested to chime in. :) -- Tanonero (msg) 17:57, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
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Intercontinental Cup is a UEFA competition: [1] [2]
Competitions - Club -
-- Sporting1905 ( talk) 14:00, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
The Toyota Cup, unlike the Intercontinental Cup, wasn't organised by UEFA or FIFA and therefore should be excluded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.140.49.141 ( talk) 21:24, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Do you have any source for that? Toyota was supposedly only the sponsor, but the competition was still endorsed by the UEFA and Commebol- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.102.115.116 ( talk) 14:56, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
The FIFA Club World Cup shouldn't count as it is a FIFA competition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.247.64.141 ( talk) 03:27, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Why only amend Atletico's to add the 2007 IC?
They were a side winner, just like Napoli and Sampdoria, so why aren't their totals added on to?
So you close the editing part of this page without discussing? Just because of some Wikipedia power?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Intertoto_Cup#2006.E2.80.932008
Add new columns for all these winners too then and add Napoli etc to show 1 more title or NONE at all.
You can't just have Atletico's added on to and leave out the likes of Reid and Tabol.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.72.55 ( talk) 18:13, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Atletico Madrid has one Intertoto Cup. Check this http://es.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=50124/profile/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.83.81.12 ( talk) 00:58, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
It has no sense whatsoever to stop counting intercontinental titles just because the competition was taken over by FIFA. The title has the same worth and it is not fair that new winners don't get the credit. Either count all the titles or none of them. Surely this article should be about honouring the achievement of a team more than the act of blessing by a bureaucrat. This is Wikipedia so we should stop pretending we are writing official lists. We are not UEFA.com. When UEFA has some official rankings we should simply copy them, and where they don't we should make our own with no consideration of what competitions they have or haven't organized. The Intercontinetal Cup issue is especially ludicrous. And why not simply make another column for the Fairs Cup? Zhmr ( talk) 15:13, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
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Create a table with columns and lines to show the champions of each competition. The table should have the 7 columns (Year; UCL; CWC; UEL; UIC; USC; IC). In lines the specific years and champions clubs. The motif is to show diachronic and synchronic the importance of each phase and era tendencies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:431:F7A4:633C:9490:CE4C:E698:C77A ( talk) 20:07, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
FIFA recognise the ICFC as a major trophy, so why is it not included in any table of the most successful club sides in European football? BRACK66 ( talk) 00:32, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
This page completely fails to mention the UEFA Women's Champions League and the UEFA Youth League even though they are club competitions. They should either be included or the page should be retitled to "List of UEFA men's club competition winners". Two other problems are the UEFA Futsal Cup and the UEFA Regions' Cup, although I'm not entirely sure the latter counts as a club competition. Madshurtie ( talk) 15:27, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Seems to make little sense to not include the FIFA competition that is regarded as the biggest club tournament in the world in many countries and not just title the article "List of FIFA and UEFA Competition Winners". What do people think about its addition? I think it definitely should be added as you participate in it by winning a UEFA tournament, just like the UEFA Super Cup. Davefelmer ( talk) 02:35, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi,
As some editors pointed out, FIFA Club World Cup is not a UEFA competition and hence should not be included on this list. However, in my opinion, it would be reasonable to include FIFA Club World Cup titles, as this tournament is (or at least supposed to be) the pinnacle of club football. This list shouldn't be reduced to UEFA honors, we should instead rename it to " List of FIFA and UEFA club competition winners", so that all major international honors (except Fairs Cup) won by European clubs are included. Govnery ( talk) 07:42, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi,
my addition ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_UEFA_club_competition_winners&oldid=1121356436 ) of a list of winners by year was revised and therefore wanted to ask whether the list could then be included with the following changes:
(1) the logos could of course be removed
(2) if the color design is too much, the whole table can also be kept neutral in gray.
--->
I think the name of article List of UEFA club competition winners actually also implies a list of all winners per season and should therefore be implemented, if a consensus could be reached. Miria~01 ( talk) 22:51, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
I think it would be clearer and more informative to combine the statistics of non-existing associations with the associations that the winning clubs currently belong to in the table titled "List of UEFA club competition winners by country." For example, we could merge Yugoslavia with Serbia since Red Star Belgrade is now affiliated with the Serbian association. This approach would ensure greater consistency between the two tables, as the one labeled "List of UEFA club competition winners" already considers the current association. Additionally, we could include a footnote in the current country's entry, specifying the previous associations it encompasses. I believe this is what has been done in other football-related list of winners articles. Tanonero (msg) 11:45, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
I find the argument "It doesn't really matter if the Serbian FA inherited Yugoslav records or not" unconvincing. Why does it not matter? When creating a continuous ranking by country, the factor of inheritance must be taken into account. It doesn't seem logical to include non-existing countries in the rankings if their titles have been officially transferred to a new association that is currently competing. -- Tanonero (msg) 13:04, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for providing this example. However, I believe it would have been historically inaccurate to refer to those teams as anything other than Soviet or Yugoslav. Although I understand your argument regarding the database, I still think it demonstrates how uncontroversial it is to assign those trophies to their respective nations today. I can see we have opposite views, so I will defer to others who may be interested in joining the discussion, so I'll wait for someone who may be interested to chime in. :) -- Tanonero (msg) 17:57, 1 June 2023 (UTC)