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Are there any sources that provide a list of the Patriarchs of Tur-Abdin, which was an autocephalic patriarchate that split from that of Antioch in 1364, and reunited in 1869. This is an important piece of data, mentioned in: Massacres, resistance, protectors by David Gaunt, Jan Bet̲-Şawoce, Racho Donef. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.16.231.150 ( talk) 18:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
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It has been suggested since July 2019 to merge List of Syriac Patriarchs of Antioch from 512 to 1783 to the List of Syriac Orthodox Patriarchs of Antioch making it one continuum of Syriac Patriarchs.
Ignatius I can be counted as II if 1st-to-2nd-century Ignatius of Antioch is counted as I, so I added notes to II, III and IV about this ("sometimes add 1"), but stopped at number IV, and there are MANY more by this name until today (pls add notes if you KNOW it's needed).
It can also work the other way round: of III (who can become IV) I know for a fact he's being mentioned as II (came across it on Bar Hebraeus page), unless it was just careless editing by someone. So the same man can appear as either Ignatius II, III, or IV!
I don't know if this mess with Ignatius propagates throughout the long list until today. It is also the case with other names, as I noticed glancing at the "Notes". I've never, ever seen a list with literally DOZENS of notes, all about this same problem. Are the numbers really in wide circulation? Any common standards or solutions, such as a table, algorithm, adding birth names, patronyms or surnames? The list is NOT a practical tool as it is now! On the Bar Hebraeus page, the formally correct Wikilink led to a man who lived 4 centuries too early! Arminden ( talk) 17:07, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Are there any sources that provide a list of the Patriarchs of Tur-Abdin, which was an autocephalic patriarchate that split from that of Antioch in 1364, and reunited in 1869. This is an important piece of data, mentioned in: Massacres, resistance, protectors by David Gaunt, Jan Bet̲-Şawoce, Racho Donef. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.16.231.150 ( talk) 18:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
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It has been suggested since July 2019 to merge List of Syriac Patriarchs of Antioch from 512 to 1783 to the List of Syriac Orthodox Patriarchs of Antioch making it one continuum of Syriac Patriarchs.
Ignatius I can be counted as II if 1st-to-2nd-century Ignatius of Antioch is counted as I, so I added notes to II, III and IV about this ("sometimes add 1"), but stopped at number IV, and there are MANY more by this name until today (pls add notes if you KNOW it's needed).
It can also work the other way round: of III (who can become IV) I know for a fact he's being mentioned as II (came across it on Bar Hebraeus page), unless it was just careless editing by someone. So the same man can appear as either Ignatius II, III, or IV!
I don't know if this mess with Ignatius propagates throughout the long list until today. It is also the case with other names, as I noticed glancing at the "Notes". I've never, ever seen a list with literally DOZENS of notes, all about this same problem. Are the numbers really in wide circulation? Any common standards or solutions, such as a table, algorithm, adding birth names, patronyms or surnames? The list is NOT a practical tool as it is now! On the Bar Hebraeus page, the formally correct Wikilink led to a man who lived 4 centuries too early! Arminden ( talk) 17:07, 15 January 2024 (UTC)