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Hi. I was editing this page, and I added a few episodes. When I previewed my most recent update, everything was fine. However, once I saved it, something odd happened. The episode list is now in the wrong place on the page, and the formatting is off. I tried to undo my edits, but when I previewed it, nothing had changed. Can someone please fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkeyeybob ( talk • contribs) 22:05, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
i am true follower of wikipedia and also love sam and cat show.
But today i found wikipedia shows wrong information of Sam and Cat episode list, The next episode of Sam and Cat is #Lumpatious but it shows Magicatm.
I already research lot and found that #Lumpatious is the episode which will air on January 4 2014.
Also no official word yet about other episode but i can confirm by showing official photos that the next episode is Lumpatious.
My Source- [Unknown Source Rmove By Myself] -- SamCATfan ( talk) 05:57, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
PS - i m new to wikipedia editing stuff so may be there is any typos error
Ok thanks for clearing my confusion-- SamCATfan ( talk) 07:18, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
The issue of whether or not to count a single episode twice is being discussed at Talk:Sam & Cat#A special hour-long episode counts as a single episode as the issue effects both articles. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 15:14, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
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Sam and Cat #FirstClassProblems 2.5 http://www.thefutoncritic.com/ratings/2014/04/29/saturdays-cable-ratings-and-broadcast-finals-nascar-nba-playoffs-top-charts-960214/cable_20140426/ 50.96.148.237 ( talk) 23:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
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please change the viewership of #firstclassproblems to 2.5 million households http://www.thefutoncritic.com/ratings/2014/04/29/saturdays-cable-ratings-and-broadcast-finals-nascar-nba-playoffs-top-charts-960214/cable_20140426/ Hillcats17 ( talk) 01:03, 30 April 2014 (UTC) Done -- Geraldo Perez ( talk) 01:22, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
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Add Russ Reinsel as the director and 134 as the production code for Episode 34. 172.56.29.182 ( talk) 10:20, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Not done - All info about unaired episodes requires references. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 13:29, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Maybe, maybe not. A recent revert says: "So how come Nick said there is only 2 more episodes left then? The source is already hinted. Gee whiz." Basically, this says, "What else could it mean?" I am not here to provide an alternate hypothesis, merely to point out that the claim that the claim that "There's only TWO episodes of Sam & Cat left!" might mean the end of the series is a hypothesis, not a fact. Adding this is using a source (apparently the only source for the claim) that "serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources." WP:OR. If it is the end of the series, rather than a hiatus or merely the end of the season, reliable sources will eventually state this unequivocally. Until then, your guess might be correct (or not). It is not, however, verifiable. - SummerPhD ( talk) 22:43, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Who should I believe then? Nickelodeon or some members of this site who says things out their way? JoesphBarbaro ( talk) 23:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
The promos say "there are only two episodes left". Why not take it at face value? I think it would be synthesis to not believe what they say is true. — Confession0791 talk 00:19, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Now we've been given a second source for the series end: [1]. I cannot for the life of me see how this source supports the claim that the show is ending. If anything, it supports the idea that sources disagree. It says: "BROADCAST HISTORY: 6/8/13 - ???". - SummerPhD ( talk) 12:58, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Now not an issue as we have a good reliable secondary source reference supporting cancellation and a date for it. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 20:09, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Many of these edit summaries are far too long. Ideally they should be between 100-200 words per WP:TVPLOT. This is difficult to achieve when editors have difficulty discerning crucial information that improves our understanding of the plot, from non-crucial information that can be gleaned and enjoyed by watching the series. Wikipedia is not a replacement for watching the series and it is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Our aim at this article is to provide an overview of the episodes, which includes succinct synopses. We don't need to include every nuance, or every fact, or unsourced explanations of pop-culture references ("Inside-Out burger is a parody of In-N-Out burger", for example)--only what is necessary to understand the A-story, and a B-story if applicable. For example, Rtkat3 twice ( [2] [3]) added the following text (emphasis mine) which doesn't explain anything about the plot:
How does Dice's mom and aunt having Coyote Fever influence the storyline? Because they normally would have gone with him, so Cat has to go instead? Firstly, that's something readers are left to guess, because it's not written clearly, and secondly, who cares? The stories are: Two people go to Arizona to do the hair modeling, two people do some stuff back home. Something's got to be omitted to turn a half-hour TV series into a 100 word synopsis.
Another example: In this version of the article, episode 2 begins, "Sam and Cat babysit two boys: Ethan, who asks a lot of questions, and Bob, who can't stop hugging." This content doesn't seem to have any other relevance to the story, except that Nona offers to babysit them, and Nona brings them back at the end of the episode. So I deleted the mention of the kids, because there was no indication they were crucial to the plot.
I'd like to continue cutting down these summaries and encourage help from editors who are capable of wrapping their heads around succinctness. (I say, fully amused with the irony of my rambling diatribe.) Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 20:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
I noticed some of the back-and-forth removals/additions of the various notes present in the article, for example here. MPFitz1968 did a great job watchdogging, and I probably would have reverted those edits simply because there was no coherent argument for why they should have been removed. That said, we typically don't include trivia in articles, and especially unsourced pop-culture analyses, which seems to be a hallmark of the Wikia contingent. I think notes like "This marks the first episode in which Bots appears [sic]" and "When Cat is yelling at Dice on her PC, one can see the PCA logo which references Zoey 101" can be sliced with a box cutter. Notes should exist for (get this) noteWORTHY events. Penny Marshall's and Cindy Williams' presence is noteworthy, but crap like: "In the last episode of Victorious on the Slap.com, Beck tweets that he feels Lumpatious" or "Ariana Grande appears with her natural brown hair in this episode" is total drivel. Most of this stuff is guided by MOS:TV, for example, WP:TVPLOT, which discourages unsourced pop cultural references, and is pretty clear about what sort of interpretive content should not be included. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 02:03, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I propose that TheKillerTunaJump: Freddie Jade Robbie be merged into this list, as the former does not meet the general notability guideline (no critical reception, not enough third-party sources etc.) 23W 03:59, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I redirected back to ep23 as there seems to be no objection to doing the merge. Content already in this article is sufficient coverage for this topic so no content needed to be copied back to here. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 14:50, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Since July 10, 2014, I've been seeing the table headings flip-flop between Season Premiere/Season Finale and Series Premiere/Series Finale. The first time I saw it happen was with this edit [1], which I subsequently reverted [2], and indicated how it affected the integrity of the table ... with Season in the first column. However, in future changes to the headings, I've let stand, even where one edit changed it so it just read Premiere/Finale [3]. There needs to be a consensus on how the headings should read, and stick to it. Personally, I would go with the original Season Premiere/Season Finale, since this table on a general scale is designed to show each season's start and end date (as is shown in other television series' articles, like with the show's two predecessors, iCarly and Victorious).
During this time frame, I've also seen the section blanked out altogether, like here [4] and here [5]. I'm against that, but again, we need consensus on whether the section should exist.
MPFitz1968 ( talk) 07:22, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Episodes | First aired | Last aired |
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35 | June 8, 2013 | July 17, 2014 |
This may be a very bold move on my part, but I'm going on this edit which removed the series overview section, and the editor has a valid point, per the WP:TVOVERVIEW guideline, as it did not go more than one season. Splits to "List of ... episodes" articles normally do not occur until there is a second season, so it baffles me why this has been separate from the TV show's article in the first place; it was even around before the first episode of the show aired back in June 2013 (like this version from May 23, 2013). MPFitz1968 ( talk) 22:54, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
I'm against because there are so many episodes already, and originally there were only going to be 20. The extra page is easier to acess the information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AriIsGrande ( talk • contribs) 04:41, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
This merge attempt does illustrate how this info unbalances the main article. I undid it because there does not seem to be concensus in this discussion to merge at this point and also because WP:CWW and WP:MERGE procedures were ignored. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 23:26, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Closed. Merge proposal has been open a year. -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 18:07, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
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This is the most recent of the edits, but has happened a few times now: [4]. All of them have been reverted because the change in billing isn't correct. Or so I thought.
I decided to take a look at the credits of the two episodes in question, "#TheKillerTunaJump: #Freddie #Jade #Robbie" and "#SuperPsycho" ... found at the end of each episode. I checked both Amazon and Netflix (both, just to be double-sure, though the "KillerTuna" one is split into two parts on Netflix and for some reason the credits appeared only in the first half, and didn't include Matt Bennett). Here's how it looked for "special guest stars" and "guest stars" on the Amazon versions, exactly how it appeared and in order ... and Netflix was for the most part the same, with the exception noted above:
Now if I recall right, the way Nickelodeon showed the credits when the episodes aired on the network vs. how they are shown in the VOD versions have been different - not sure whether the billings were different or if certain credits were added/omitted when comparing the two - so I'm not sure whether we should go with the changes outlined here, or keep the credits as is in the article. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 18:37, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
OK, I noticed the edit also included the episode "#SalmonCat" (Episode 17), but I haven't checked that one yet. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 18:39, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
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Hi. I was editing this page, and I added a few episodes. When I previewed my most recent update, everything was fine. However, once I saved it, something odd happened. The episode list is now in the wrong place on the page, and the formatting is off. I tried to undo my edits, but when I previewed it, nothing had changed. Can someone please fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkeyeybob ( talk • contribs) 22:05, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
i am true follower of wikipedia and also love sam and cat show.
But today i found wikipedia shows wrong information of Sam and Cat episode list, The next episode of Sam and Cat is #Lumpatious but it shows Magicatm.
I already research lot and found that #Lumpatious is the episode which will air on January 4 2014.
Also no official word yet about other episode but i can confirm by showing official photos that the next episode is Lumpatious.
My Source- [Unknown Source Rmove By Myself] -- SamCATfan ( talk) 05:57, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
PS - i m new to wikipedia editing stuff so may be there is any typos error
Ok thanks for clearing my confusion-- SamCATfan ( talk) 07:18, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
The issue of whether or not to count a single episode twice is being discussed at Talk:Sam & Cat#A special hour-long episode counts as a single episode as the issue effects both articles. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 15:14, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
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Sam and Cat #FirstClassProblems 2.5 http://www.thefutoncritic.com/ratings/2014/04/29/saturdays-cable-ratings-and-broadcast-finals-nascar-nba-playoffs-top-charts-960214/cable_20140426/ 50.96.148.237 ( talk) 23:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
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please change the viewership of #firstclassproblems to 2.5 million households http://www.thefutoncritic.com/ratings/2014/04/29/saturdays-cable-ratings-and-broadcast-finals-nascar-nba-playoffs-top-charts-960214/cable_20140426/ Hillcats17 ( talk) 01:03, 30 April 2014 (UTC) Done -- Geraldo Perez ( talk) 01:22, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
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Add Russ Reinsel as the director and 134 as the production code for Episode 34. 172.56.29.182 ( talk) 10:20, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Not done - All info about unaired episodes requires references. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 13:29, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Maybe, maybe not. A recent revert says: "So how come Nick said there is only 2 more episodes left then? The source is already hinted. Gee whiz." Basically, this says, "What else could it mean?" I am not here to provide an alternate hypothesis, merely to point out that the claim that the claim that "There's only TWO episodes of Sam & Cat left!" might mean the end of the series is a hypothesis, not a fact. Adding this is using a source (apparently the only source for the claim) that "serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources." WP:OR. If it is the end of the series, rather than a hiatus or merely the end of the season, reliable sources will eventually state this unequivocally. Until then, your guess might be correct (or not). It is not, however, verifiable. - SummerPhD ( talk) 22:43, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Who should I believe then? Nickelodeon or some members of this site who says things out their way? JoesphBarbaro ( talk) 23:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
The promos say "there are only two episodes left". Why not take it at face value? I think it would be synthesis to not believe what they say is true. — Confession0791 talk 00:19, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Now we've been given a second source for the series end: [1]. I cannot for the life of me see how this source supports the claim that the show is ending. If anything, it supports the idea that sources disagree. It says: "BROADCAST HISTORY: 6/8/13 - ???". - SummerPhD ( talk) 12:58, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Now not an issue as we have a good reliable secondary source reference supporting cancellation and a date for it. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 20:09, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Many of these edit summaries are far too long. Ideally they should be between 100-200 words per WP:TVPLOT. This is difficult to achieve when editors have difficulty discerning crucial information that improves our understanding of the plot, from non-crucial information that can be gleaned and enjoyed by watching the series. Wikipedia is not a replacement for watching the series and it is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Our aim at this article is to provide an overview of the episodes, which includes succinct synopses. We don't need to include every nuance, or every fact, or unsourced explanations of pop-culture references ("Inside-Out burger is a parody of In-N-Out burger", for example)--only what is necessary to understand the A-story, and a B-story if applicable. For example, Rtkat3 twice ( [2] [3]) added the following text (emphasis mine) which doesn't explain anything about the plot:
How does Dice's mom and aunt having Coyote Fever influence the storyline? Because they normally would have gone with him, so Cat has to go instead? Firstly, that's something readers are left to guess, because it's not written clearly, and secondly, who cares? The stories are: Two people go to Arizona to do the hair modeling, two people do some stuff back home. Something's got to be omitted to turn a half-hour TV series into a 100 word synopsis.
Another example: In this version of the article, episode 2 begins, "Sam and Cat babysit two boys: Ethan, who asks a lot of questions, and Bob, who can't stop hugging." This content doesn't seem to have any other relevance to the story, except that Nona offers to babysit them, and Nona brings them back at the end of the episode. So I deleted the mention of the kids, because there was no indication they were crucial to the plot.
I'd like to continue cutting down these summaries and encourage help from editors who are capable of wrapping their heads around succinctness. (I say, fully amused with the irony of my rambling diatribe.) Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 20:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
I noticed some of the back-and-forth removals/additions of the various notes present in the article, for example here. MPFitz1968 did a great job watchdogging, and I probably would have reverted those edits simply because there was no coherent argument for why they should have been removed. That said, we typically don't include trivia in articles, and especially unsourced pop-culture analyses, which seems to be a hallmark of the Wikia contingent. I think notes like "This marks the first episode in which Bots appears [sic]" and "When Cat is yelling at Dice on her PC, one can see the PCA logo which references Zoey 101" can be sliced with a box cutter. Notes should exist for (get this) noteWORTHY events. Penny Marshall's and Cindy Williams' presence is noteworthy, but crap like: "In the last episode of Victorious on the Slap.com, Beck tweets that he feels Lumpatious" or "Ariana Grande appears with her natural brown hair in this episode" is total drivel. Most of this stuff is guided by MOS:TV, for example, WP:TVPLOT, which discourages unsourced pop cultural references, and is pretty clear about what sort of interpretive content should not be included. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 02:03, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I propose that TheKillerTunaJump: Freddie Jade Robbie be merged into this list, as the former does not meet the general notability guideline (no critical reception, not enough third-party sources etc.) 23W 03:59, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I redirected back to ep23 as there seems to be no objection to doing the merge. Content already in this article is sufficient coverage for this topic so no content needed to be copied back to here. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 14:50, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Since July 10, 2014, I've been seeing the table headings flip-flop between Season Premiere/Season Finale and Series Premiere/Series Finale. The first time I saw it happen was with this edit [1], which I subsequently reverted [2], and indicated how it affected the integrity of the table ... with Season in the first column. However, in future changes to the headings, I've let stand, even where one edit changed it so it just read Premiere/Finale [3]. There needs to be a consensus on how the headings should read, and stick to it. Personally, I would go with the original Season Premiere/Season Finale, since this table on a general scale is designed to show each season's start and end date (as is shown in other television series' articles, like with the show's two predecessors, iCarly and Victorious).
During this time frame, I've also seen the section blanked out altogether, like here [4] and here [5]. I'm against that, but again, we need consensus on whether the section should exist.
MPFitz1968 ( talk) 07:22, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Episodes | First aired | Last aired |
---|---|---|
35 | June 8, 2013 | July 17, 2014 |
This may be a very bold move on my part, but I'm going on this edit which removed the series overview section, and the editor has a valid point, per the WP:TVOVERVIEW guideline, as it did not go more than one season. Splits to "List of ... episodes" articles normally do not occur until there is a second season, so it baffles me why this has been separate from the TV show's article in the first place; it was even around before the first episode of the show aired back in June 2013 (like this version from May 23, 2013). MPFitz1968 ( talk) 22:54, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
I'm against because there are so many episodes already, and originally there were only going to be 20. The extra page is easier to acess the information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AriIsGrande ( talk • contribs) 04:41, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
This merge attempt does illustrate how this info unbalances the main article. I undid it because there does not seem to be concensus in this discussion to merge at this point and also because WP:CWW and WP:MERGE procedures were ignored. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 23:26, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Closed. Merge proposal has been open a year. -- IJBall ( contribs • talk) 18:07, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
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This is the most recent of the edits, but has happened a few times now: [4]. All of them have been reverted because the change in billing isn't correct. Or so I thought.
I decided to take a look at the credits of the two episodes in question, "#TheKillerTunaJump: #Freddie #Jade #Robbie" and "#SuperPsycho" ... found at the end of each episode. I checked both Amazon and Netflix (both, just to be double-sure, though the "KillerTuna" one is split into two parts on Netflix and for some reason the credits appeared only in the first half, and didn't include Matt Bennett). Here's how it looked for "special guest stars" and "guest stars" on the Amazon versions, exactly how it appeared and in order ... and Netflix was for the most part the same, with the exception noted above:
Now if I recall right, the way Nickelodeon showed the credits when the episodes aired on the network vs. how they are shown in the VOD versions have been different - not sure whether the billings were different or if certain credits were added/omitted when comparing the two - so I'm not sure whether we should go with the changes outlined here, or keep the credits as is in the article. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 18:37, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
OK, I noticed the edit also included the episode "#SalmonCat" (Episode 17), but I haven't checked that one yet. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 18:39, 5 September 2020 (UTC)