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We already have a list at the main Quaker article. Do we have enough references to individaual quakers to nessecitate a seperate list? Lyellin 14:18, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)
What about Joan Baez? She was raised a Quaker and was obviously influenced by the Peace Testimony. Logophile 14:26, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Edward Backhouse was a forger. I'm not sure he should be in a list of Quakers, as his actions are not consistent with Quaker beliefs. Logophile 10:16, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I take your point and agree with you. I retract my prior comment. Logophile 12:48, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I think we should consider some guidelines for this list. A few of the people on it did not remain Quakers. Elisha Gray, for instance, became a Presbyterian. Logophile 20:28, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
Olaf Stapledon? -- Eric Forste 21:28, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Someone just forwarded me something that purports to be the the Economist obituary of playwright Christopher Fry. The obituary calls the playwright "a Christian and a Quaker". -- Eric Forste 00:22, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Does Klaus Fuchs belong on this list? I am not aware of any evidence that he was a Quaker. I will not remove him until after giving anyone with more information a chance to respond. -- Rich Accetta-Evans January 6, 2006
I recently discovered a big error in this list. Edward Pease was not the first Quaker member of Parliament. His son Joseph was. The mistake was probably based on a website that used an ambiguous "he" meaning the son but leading someone to think it was the father. We need to be on the lookout for other places where this might need to be corrected.
Also, the two Edward Peases are said by one website to be related, which I think is probably true. It would be nice to find that relationship and point it out. Logophile 12:31, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I can't find a source yet and won't put her name in unless/until I can find one, but I have a notion that Cheryl Tiegs is or at one time described herself as a Friend. Does that ring any bells with anyone? Dpbsmith (talk) 13:30, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Lifetime TV says "Raised on a farm in rural Minnesota with no running water or electricity, Tiegs cherished her idyllic surroundings and the meditative quality of her family's Quaker faith." Apparently a birthright Quaker, anyway. Dpbsmith (talk) 13:34, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
I have added Joan Mary and Margery Fry to the list, as they were Quakers (Roger was not, I think) and have merited entried in ODNB. If no-one else wants to tackle these Redlinks, I'll probably get down to condensing the ODNB articles and googling around sometime before Christmas (year not specified)
Vernon White 22:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
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I note that this person received a Quaker education. Does that make him a Quaker, please? === Vernon White (talk) 12:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
If this person is "The Father of the American Navy" then he is unlikely to have remained a Quaker, although it is stated ([http://www.famousamericans.net/joshuahumphreys/ Famous Americans website]) that his grandfather was a Quaker settler from Wales.
Doesn't seem to be much point in having this entry, if nothing more is known of him. Does the editor who added him to the list intend to write an article, please?=== Vernon White (talk) 22:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
In what sense is this writer a Quaker? The article mentions he is an agnostic but not an Agnostic Quaker. He served in the U.S. Army, which is a rather unquakerly career choice. === Vernon White . . . Talk 19:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Is this person a Quaker? The article makes no mention of his being a member of the Religious Society of Friends. === Vernon White . . . Talk 19:24, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Someone has added her to this list. "(I know someone who has attended meeting with her in California)". I have asked them for further evidence. (She played a Quaker character in Christy (TV series), I know.) Vernon White . . . Talk 13:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Someone has added to the list a redlinked Edmond Privat. As far as I can see, the Esperanto wikipedia doesn't mention that he was a\Quaker [3]. Vernon White . . . Talk 21:02, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
This became a redirect based on the opinion of one person using an inaccurate precedent of List of Christians. Granted the example of List of Methodists was maybe not the best as I created that list. However for comparable examples I can cite...
The "List of Christians" was partly deleted for being too generalized. Specific denomination lists have generally been safer. (Except for a sneaky prodding of "List of Lutherans") Still if it's desired it go AfD is more honest.-- T. Anthony ( talk) 11:40, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry but you should never simply restore a deletion (even soft deletion) when WP:BLP is clearly cited. We cannot have unsourced articles that give out information about living people, and this list was a poor example of that. I am happy to see that the restoration involved the addition of sources but there are still many entries that still don't have a reference - I know it's an arduous task but it needs to be done or the entries removed.
To clarify, the given precedent was not inappropriate and the examples given above are generally well-sourced, which this wasn't at the time. violet/riga (t) 11:19, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
WP article on Henry S. Taylor makes no Quaker connection. Vernon White . . . Talk 00:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
The following added to the Ned Rorem talk page: "What evidence is there that Ned Rorem is a Quaker, please? BTW, a person who lives in a Quaker settlement or attends a Quaker School or College, or whose family have been Quakers for generations is not ncessarily a Quaker". --- Vernon White . . . Talk 09:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC).
Rorem's Quaker background comes up in a number of his published diaries. I don't have them handy to quote, but if you run a google search with the three words < Ned Rorem Quaker > you will find a number of sources that cite not only a Quaker family background but Rorem's own identification as a Friend. In an interview concerning his upcoming opera based on Thornton Wilder's Our Town, Rorem makes a statement beginning, "We who are Quaker..." Fred Lane ( talk) 02:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed " Sally Nicholls, British children's author.<ref>"Sally Nicholls, [http://sallynicholls.com/about/interview.php An interview], retrieved 2008-02-28.</ref>" as her WP article says she is an attender. An attender is not a member, although attenders at YFGM of Britain YM have an ambiguous position. Vernon White . . . Talk 22:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I've read elsewhere that Nixon and Hoover were Quakers. In addition their Wikipedia entries state their religion as Quaker. Since neither are popular US Presidents and don't feel well-versed enough in the Friends I won't add them to the list. However if someone more knowledgeable about either of these men and their relationship with Quakers could explain their lack of inclusion (or why they should be added) that would be interesting. Thanks. KevinLyda ( talk) 08:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
There are several brands of Quakerism in the US. As far as I know, Nixon belongs to a type that has "normal" Protestant services and is not pacifist. The Quaker Wiki pages are fairly informative about this. Bmcln1 ( talk) 12:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I've removed her from the list because, according to her page in Wikipedia, she does not consider herself a Quaker, though she went to a Quaker school. She is quoted on the page as saying, "I am not a Quaker, of course, because I'm anti-Christian and the Quakers are a form of Christianity..." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.81.114 ( talk) 12:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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Robeson was the name of a white, slave-owning family in North Carolina before the American Civil War. Their black slaves took the same surname and among them was William Drew Robeson, who ran away from the plantation, fought for the North in the Civil War and later became a Presbyterian minister and subsequently a pastor in the African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church. He married a Quaker schoolteacher, Maria Louisa Bustill of Philadelphia, of mixed Negro, American Indian and white Quaker descent. The Robesons were an upwardly mobile family and their three older sons were to have careers as a doctor, a businessman and a minister. Their youngest child, Paul Leroy Robeson, ...
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Ilka Chase has been added but the article on her makes no mention of Quakers. Vernon White . . . Talk 21:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
This ill-spelled, ill-punctuated, unreferenced article [4] suggests that she had Quaker ancestors but was not brought up as a Quaker. I think she should be deleted unless other evidence of her Quakerism can be found. Bmcln1 ( talk) 07:22, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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We already have a list at the main Quaker article. Do we have enough references to individaual quakers to nessecitate a seperate list? Lyellin 14:18, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)
What about Joan Baez? She was raised a Quaker and was obviously influenced by the Peace Testimony. Logophile 14:26, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Edward Backhouse was a forger. I'm not sure he should be in a list of Quakers, as his actions are not consistent with Quaker beliefs. Logophile 10:16, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I take your point and agree with you. I retract my prior comment. Logophile 12:48, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I think we should consider some guidelines for this list. A few of the people on it did not remain Quakers. Elisha Gray, for instance, became a Presbyterian. Logophile 20:28, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
Olaf Stapledon? -- Eric Forste 21:28, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Someone just forwarded me something that purports to be the the Economist obituary of playwright Christopher Fry. The obituary calls the playwright "a Christian and a Quaker". -- Eric Forste 00:22, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Does Klaus Fuchs belong on this list? I am not aware of any evidence that he was a Quaker. I will not remove him until after giving anyone with more information a chance to respond. -- Rich Accetta-Evans January 6, 2006
I recently discovered a big error in this list. Edward Pease was not the first Quaker member of Parliament. His son Joseph was. The mistake was probably based on a website that used an ambiguous "he" meaning the son but leading someone to think it was the father. We need to be on the lookout for other places where this might need to be corrected.
Also, the two Edward Peases are said by one website to be related, which I think is probably true. It would be nice to find that relationship and point it out. Logophile 12:31, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I can't find a source yet and won't put her name in unless/until I can find one, but I have a notion that Cheryl Tiegs is or at one time described herself as a Friend. Does that ring any bells with anyone? Dpbsmith (talk) 13:30, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Lifetime TV says "Raised on a farm in rural Minnesota with no running water or electricity, Tiegs cherished her idyllic surroundings and the meditative quality of her family's Quaker faith." Apparently a birthright Quaker, anyway. Dpbsmith (talk) 13:34, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
I have added Joan Mary and Margery Fry to the list, as they were Quakers (Roger was not, I think) and have merited entried in ODNB. If no-one else wants to tackle these Redlinks, I'll probably get down to condensing the ODNB articles and googling around sometime before Christmas (year not specified)
Vernon White 22:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
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This entry removed and article page marked for deletion. Entry for William Martin "Actve Quaker naturist" removed as non-Notable. --- Vernon White (talk) 14:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC) _____________
I note that this person received a Quaker education. Does that make him a Quaker, please? === Vernon White (talk) 12:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
If this person is "The Father of the American Navy" then he is unlikely to have remained a Quaker, although it is stated ([http://www.famousamericans.net/joshuahumphreys/ Famous Americans website]) that his grandfather was a Quaker settler from Wales.
Doesn't seem to be much point in having this entry, if nothing more is known of him. Does the editor who added him to the list intend to write an article, please?=== Vernon White (talk) 22:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
In what sense is this writer a Quaker? The article mentions he is an agnostic but not an Agnostic Quaker. He served in the U.S. Army, which is a rather unquakerly career choice. === Vernon White . . . Talk 19:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Is this person a Quaker? The article makes no mention of his being a member of the Religious Society of Friends. === Vernon White . . . Talk 19:24, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Someone has added her to this list. "(I know someone who has attended meeting with her in California)". I have asked them for further evidence. (She played a Quaker character in Christy (TV series), I know.) Vernon White . . . Talk 13:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Someone has added to the list a redlinked Edmond Privat. As far as I can see, the Esperanto wikipedia doesn't mention that he was a\Quaker [3]. Vernon White . . . Talk 21:02, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
This became a redirect based on the opinion of one person using an inaccurate precedent of List of Christians. Granted the example of List of Methodists was maybe not the best as I created that list. However for comparable examples I can cite...
The "List of Christians" was partly deleted for being too generalized. Specific denomination lists have generally been safer. (Except for a sneaky prodding of "List of Lutherans") Still if it's desired it go AfD is more honest.-- T. Anthony ( talk) 11:40, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry but you should never simply restore a deletion (even soft deletion) when WP:BLP is clearly cited. We cannot have unsourced articles that give out information about living people, and this list was a poor example of that. I am happy to see that the restoration involved the addition of sources but there are still many entries that still don't have a reference - I know it's an arduous task but it needs to be done or the entries removed.
To clarify, the given precedent was not inappropriate and the examples given above are generally well-sourced, which this wasn't at the time. violet/riga (t) 11:19, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
WP article on Henry S. Taylor makes no Quaker connection. Vernon White . . . Talk 00:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
The following added to the Ned Rorem talk page: "What evidence is there that Ned Rorem is a Quaker, please? BTW, a person who lives in a Quaker settlement or attends a Quaker School or College, or whose family have been Quakers for generations is not ncessarily a Quaker". --- Vernon White . . . Talk 09:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC).
Rorem's Quaker background comes up in a number of his published diaries. I don't have them handy to quote, but if you run a google search with the three words < Ned Rorem Quaker > you will find a number of sources that cite not only a Quaker family background but Rorem's own identification as a Friend. In an interview concerning his upcoming opera based on Thornton Wilder's Our Town, Rorem makes a statement beginning, "We who are Quaker..." Fred Lane ( talk) 02:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed " Sally Nicholls, British children's author.<ref>"Sally Nicholls, [http://sallynicholls.com/about/interview.php An interview], retrieved 2008-02-28.</ref>" as her WP article says she is an attender. An attender is not a member, although attenders at YFGM of Britain YM have an ambiguous position. Vernon White . . . Talk 22:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I've read elsewhere that Nixon and Hoover were Quakers. In addition their Wikipedia entries state their religion as Quaker. Since neither are popular US Presidents and don't feel well-versed enough in the Friends I won't add them to the list. However if someone more knowledgeable about either of these men and their relationship with Quakers could explain their lack of inclusion (or why they should be added) that would be interesting. Thanks. KevinLyda ( talk) 08:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
There are several brands of Quakerism in the US. As far as I know, Nixon belongs to a type that has "normal" Protestant services and is not pacifist. The Quaker Wiki pages are fairly informative about this. Bmcln1 ( talk) 12:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I've removed her from the list because, according to her page in Wikipedia, she does not consider herself a Quaker, though she went to a Quaker school. She is quoted on the page as saying, "I am not a Quaker, of course, because I'm anti-Christian and the Quakers are a form of Christianity..." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.81.114 ( talk) 12:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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Robeson was the name of a white, slave-owning family in North Carolina before the American Civil War. Their black slaves took the same surname and among them was William Drew Robeson, who ran away from the plantation, fought for the North in the Civil War and later became a Presbyterian minister and subsequently a pastor in the African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church. He married a Quaker schoolteacher, Maria Louisa Bustill of Philadelphia, of mixed Negro, American Indian and white Quaker descent. The Robesons were an upwardly mobile family and their three older sons were to have careers as a doctor, a businessman and a minister. Their youngest child, Paul Leroy Robeson, ...
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Ilka Chase has been added but the article on her makes no mention of Quakers. Vernon White . . . Talk 21:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
This ill-spelled, ill-punctuated, unreferenced article [4] suggests that she had Quaker ancestors but was not brought up as a Quaker. I think she should be deleted unless other evidence of her Quakerism can be found. Bmcln1 ( talk) 07:22, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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He was English, not from the US. Also the reference is down 177.255.112.214 ( talk) 06:08, 30 October 2022 (UTC)