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Regarding the List of Pittsburgh Landmarks, I have a feeling there are a lot more places that are recognized as such by the Pittsburgh History and Landmarks Foundation (PHLF) than just the items on this list. The reason I say this is because there are a number of old buildings in this town that have PHLF markers on them that are not included on the list. For example, when I took the picture of the B. F. Jones House (aka Jones Hall), I noticed that the building beside it, West Hall, has a PHLF marker on it that says, "Historic Landmark - West Hall - 1911-1912 - Thomas Hannah, Architect - Pittsburgh History & Landmarks Foundation". This building has a PHLF marker, but is not on the list. I figure that Dudemanfellabra "created" the list on Wikipedia simply by copying it from the PHLF website. Well, this is something that I had planned to do months ago, but did not because of lingering questions I had as to whether or not this was the complete list of Pittsburgh Landmarks. For other examples, if you go to Category:Pittsburgh History & Landmarks Foundation Historic Landmarks, you will see a number of places that are not on this list. Here's an example, First Church of Christ, Scientist (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania), on its Wikipedia pages says, "In 1977, First Church of Christ, Scientist, was designated a Pittsburgh Historic Landmark by the Pittsburgh History and Landmarks Foundation." The building is still there, and I see no reason why it would have been removed from the list. I also doubt that all the other places with markers on them have been removed from the list too. If you drive through Pittsburgh, you will see numerous other places with the PHLF markers on them, and many are not on the list. Most of the sites on the National Register of Historic Places listings in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania also have PHLF markers on them. Not only that, but I think there are even some sites with PHLF markers on them that are outside Pittsburgh city limits too. So, I've always wondered about that list on the PHLF's website, as to whether or not it's complete, and I should probably write to them and ask if they have a complete list of ALL the places that have markers on them that are considered to be Pittsburgh Landmarks. Leepaxton ( talk) 21:04, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
I removed this image of St. Nicholas Croatian Catholic Church, because that's not the one located at 1326 East Ohio Street. The church in that picture is located at 24 Maryland Avenue in Millvale, Pennsylvania. The one in Millvale is on the National Register of Historic Places. But there's a different, older church with the same name located at 1326 East Ohio Street (this was the original location of the congregation, which later moved farther down the road to the other church in Millvale). The one on East Ohio Street is on the List of Pittsburgh Landmarks. It also was in the news not that long ago, because a road project is being discussed nearby and some people want to make sure it gets saved because it's supposedly the site of the first Croatian Catholic Church in the United States, and some folks want to turn it into a museum. Geneisner ( talk) 13:01, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I started compiling a chart for PHLF designated landmarks ripped straight from their new updated list (
found here). There are several hundred, so it will take a while to complete, but I think the information in a sortable table will be invaluable. The images sizes are small because there will be so many entries I thought large images might make it unmanageable to peruse or sort. The model I used is
List of University of Pittsburgh buildings, but perhaps I should use something similar to the NRHP tables like the exiting charts with larger photos. I've reverted to using the size/style of the NHRP tables.
Eventually, when it is completed, I envision combining the City Designated Landmarks table into to it. For this, an extra City designation date column can be easily added. Likewise, columns for Pennsylvania historical markers and NRHP, etc., can be added along the lines of List of Chicago Landmarks. Let me know what you think, hopefully before I get much further with entries to the PHLF table. CrazyPaco ( talk) 03:00, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I've updated both the City of Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh History and Landmarks Foundation landmark designation tables. The PHLF listing was entered to match as closely as possible to the listing in their Historic Landmark Plaques booklet. All the tables should be up to date as of July 14, 2010. CrazyPaco ( talk) 01:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
The PHLF website says 525 plaques have been awarded. I've entered 537 unique entries according to how they are listed in this booklet. Also, this photo appears on their website shows a plaque for the Fort Pitt blockhouse that isn't listed in their booklet. Anyone have any explanations for these discrepancies? CrazyPaco ( talk) 05:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Since there was not strong resistance to the suggestion, and to best integrate these landmark listings into the Historic Sites WikiProject, I'm going to split the City and PHLF designations into two articles while this page will be left as a disambiguating pointer. At least it will be good to see as a trial run. Let me know if there are any issues. CrazyPaco ( talk) 22:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
For anyone interested in creating or editing articles on Pennsylvania or Pittsburgh historic sites or landmarks, I have created a new Pennsylvania historic infobox modeled on the National Registry of Historic Places infobox. This infobox is intended for state or local historic sites and landmarks that are not listed on the national registry, but are designated as historic by Pennsylvania and/or regional or local authorities and organizations. Like the NRHP infobox, the PAhistoric infobox will place color-coded banners signifying the historical significance of the subject at the top of the infobox, can handle both local Pittsburgh designations ( City designated and PH&LF designated) that are already thoroughly covered in Wikipedia articles/lists, and also provides the ability for other fully-customizeable local designations. CrazyPaco ( talk) 05:57, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Template:Infobox PAhistoric has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. CrazyPaco ( talk) 15:30, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
In this table, the Hill District is listed as "Hill, the." This seems potentially confusing to non-experts, who may not be familiar with the vernacular name of this Pittsburgh neighborhood. Recommend changing in each instance to "Hill District." Aolivex ( talk) 18:55, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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Regarding the List of Pittsburgh Landmarks, I have a feeling there are a lot more places that are recognized as such by the Pittsburgh History and Landmarks Foundation (PHLF) than just the items on this list. The reason I say this is because there are a number of old buildings in this town that have PHLF markers on them that are not included on the list. For example, when I took the picture of the B. F. Jones House (aka Jones Hall), I noticed that the building beside it, West Hall, has a PHLF marker on it that says, "Historic Landmark - West Hall - 1911-1912 - Thomas Hannah, Architect - Pittsburgh History & Landmarks Foundation". This building has a PHLF marker, but is not on the list. I figure that Dudemanfellabra "created" the list on Wikipedia simply by copying it from the PHLF website. Well, this is something that I had planned to do months ago, but did not because of lingering questions I had as to whether or not this was the complete list of Pittsburgh Landmarks. For other examples, if you go to Category:Pittsburgh History & Landmarks Foundation Historic Landmarks, you will see a number of places that are not on this list. Here's an example, First Church of Christ, Scientist (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania), on its Wikipedia pages says, "In 1977, First Church of Christ, Scientist, was designated a Pittsburgh Historic Landmark by the Pittsburgh History and Landmarks Foundation." The building is still there, and I see no reason why it would have been removed from the list. I also doubt that all the other places with markers on them have been removed from the list too. If you drive through Pittsburgh, you will see numerous other places with the PHLF markers on them, and many are not on the list. Most of the sites on the National Register of Historic Places listings in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania also have PHLF markers on them. Not only that, but I think there are even some sites with PHLF markers on them that are outside Pittsburgh city limits too. So, I've always wondered about that list on the PHLF's website, as to whether or not it's complete, and I should probably write to them and ask if they have a complete list of ALL the places that have markers on them that are considered to be Pittsburgh Landmarks. Leepaxton ( talk) 21:04, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
I removed this image of St. Nicholas Croatian Catholic Church, because that's not the one located at 1326 East Ohio Street. The church in that picture is located at 24 Maryland Avenue in Millvale, Pennsylvania. The one in Millvale is on the National Register of Historic Places. But there's a different, older church with the same name located at 1326 East Ohio Street (this was the original location of the congregation, which later moved farther down the road to the other church in Millvale). The one on East Ohio Street is on the List of Pittsburgh Landmarks. It also was in the news not that long ago, because a road project is being discussed nearby and some people want to make sure it gets saved because it's supposedly the site of the first Croatian Catholic Church in the United States, and some folks want to turn it into a museum. Geneisner ( talk) 13:01, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I started compiling a chart for PHLF designated landmarks ripped straight from their new updated list (
found here). There are several hundred, so it will take a while to complete, but I think the information in a sortable table will be invaluable. The images sizes are small because there will be so many entries I thought large images might make it unmanageable to peruse or sort. The model I used is
List of University of Pittsburgh buildings, but perhaps I should use something similar to the NRHP tables like the exiting charts with larger photos. I've reverted to using the size/style of the NHRP tables.
Eventually, when it is completed, I envision combining the City Designated Landmarks table into to it. For this, an extra City designation date column can be easily added. Likewise, columns for Pennsylvania historical markers and NRHP, etc., can be added along the lines of List of Chicago Landmarks. Let me know what you think, hopefully before I get much further with entries to the PHLF table. CrazyPaco ( talk) 03:00, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I've updated both the City of Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh History and Landmarks Foundation landmark designation tables. The PHLF listing was entered to match as closely as possible to the listing in their Historic Landmark Plaques booklet. All the tables should be up to date as of July 14, 2010. CrazyPaco ( talk) 01:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
The PHLF website says 525 plaques have been awarded. I've entered 537 unique entries according to how they are listed in this booklet. Also, this photo appears on their website shows a plaque for the Fort Pitt blockhouse that isn't listed in their booklet. Anyone have any explanations for these discrepancies? CrazyPaco ( talk) 05:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Since there was not strong resistance to the suggestion, and to best integrate these landmark listings into the Historic Sites WikiProject, I'm going to split the City and PHLF designations into two articles while this page will be left as a disambiguating pointer. At least it will be good to see as a trial run. Let me know if there are any issues. CrazyPaco ( talk) 22:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
For anyone interested in creating or editing articles on Pennsylvania or Pittsburgh historic sites or landmarks, I have created a new Pennsylvania historic infobox modeled on the National Registry of Historic Places infobox. This infobox is intended for state or local historic sites and landmarks that are not listed on the national registry, but are designated as historic by Pennsylvania and/or regional or local authorities and organizations. Like the NRHP infobox, the PAhistoric infobox will place color-coded banners signifying the historical significance of the subject at the top of the infobox, can handle both local Pittsburgh designations ( City designated and PH&LF designated) that are already thoroughly covered in Wikipedia articles/lists, and also provides the ability for other fully-customizeable local designations. CrazyPaco ( talk) 05:57, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Template:Infobox PAhistoric has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. CrazyPaco ( talk) 15:30, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
In this table, the Hill District is listed as "Hill, the." This seems potentially confusing to non-experts, who may not be familiar with the vernacular name of this Pittsburgh neighborhood. Recommend changing in each instance to "Hill District." Aolivex ( talk) 18:55, 27 July 2015 (UTC)