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The PA state markers are often different than the NRHP designations or other local designations (e.g. Pittsburgh Landmarks) in that they often refer to people, places, events, etc., not just structures. The physical evidence of these historic events are often long gone leaving nothing but empty fields or unrelated new structures.
The PA plaques and their text are copyrighted so using images whose primary subject is a plaque is a copyright violation and is not appropriate for Wikipedia in list-type of article such as these. The PA historical plaques can be included in a picture (as an extraneous part like this photo here), but the cannot be the main subject of the photo ( like here...this photo is likely a © violation, tagged wrong & shouldn't be at Commons). The plaques fall under the same category as sculptures (see Freedom of panorama#United_States and Template:Non-free 3D art). So please keep this in mind when you are adding photos to these tables.
For these reasons, some of the images in the table are likely to be contextual just like the markers themselves. Often a marker is about a person, not the person's birthplace or workplace in particular although it might be near such a location. Therefore, an image of a person or event is probably appropriate for use in the table. This is quite different than the NRHP lists that most editors are familiar with, but those lists are most for historic places and structures that have maintained their integrity, unlike the PA markers. For an example of how images can be used to populate a PA historical marker list, please see List of Pennsylvania state historical markers in Allegheny County.
Also, before Wiki-linking a marker title to an article, it is probably good check the marker context of the marker by reading its text after finding it at the Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission's database (here). Sometimes the topic of the marker is not obvious from the title. CrazyPaco ( talk) 23:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
It seems to me that there are many PHMS markers in Philadelphia that are not on this list. For example, Edwin Forrest House has a marker outside, headed Freedom Theatre, which is the third major use of this house. It was formerly Philadelphia School of Design for Women. The photo shows the side of the marker, but it is not in this list. I suspect that there are more such instances. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 23:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Should the table have a photo of the person, such as George Gordon Meade, or his house, a gift of the citizens of Philadelphia to his wife?-- DThomsen8 ( talk) 12:29, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
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I downloaded fresh data from PHMC's current website and re-generated the table using some google sheets hacking. There are now 321 markers in Philadelphia County. The old/new data is combined as follows:
Most differences (visible in the diff for the revision) are adding the new entries and minor formatting consistencies. However, I did check for discrepancies, and I log the differences for the record:
Comments/discussion welcome! Cstanford.math ( talk) 23:04, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Just including a note here, I may add these to the article later. There are apparently 3 new markers approved for 2021, not dedicated yet:
See [1] Cstanford.math ( talk) 23:48, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Update: new marker data from PHMC now live in the table! Caleb Stanford ( talk) 16:22, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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The PA state markers are often different than the NRHP designations or other local designations (e.g. Pittsburgh Landmarks) in that they often refer to people, places, events, etc., not just structures. The physical evidence of these historic events are often long gone leaving nothing but empty fields or unrelated new structures.
The PA plaques and their text are copyrighted so using images whose primary subject is a plaque is a copyright violation and is not appropriate for Wikipedia in list-type of article such as these. The PA historical plaques can be included in a picture (as an extraneous part like this photo here), but the cannot be the main subject of the photo ( like here...this photo is likely a © violation, tagged wrong & shouldn't be at Commons). The plaques fall under the same category as sculptures (see Freedom of panorama#United_States and Template:Non-free 3D art). So please keep this in mind when you are adding photos to these tables.
For these reasons, some of the images in the table are likely to be contextual just like the markers themselves. Often a marker is about a person, not the person's birthplace or workplace in particular although it might be near such a location. Therefore, an image of a person or event is probably appropriate for use in the table. This is quite different than the NRHP lists that most editors are familiar with, but those lists are most for historic places and structures that have maintained their integrity, unlike the PA markers. For an example of how images can be used to populate a PA historical marker list, please see List of Pennsylvania state historical markers in Allegheny County.
Also, before Wiki-linking a marker title to an article, it is probably good check the marker context of the marker by reading its text after finding it at the Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission's database (here). Sometimes the topic of the marker is not obvious from the title. CrazyPaco ( talk) 23:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
It seems to me that there are many PHMS markers in Philadelphia that are not on this list. For example, Edwin Forrest House has a marker outside, headed Freedom Theatre, which is the third major use of this house. It was formerly Philadelphia School of Design for Women. The photo shows the side of the marker, but it is not in this list. I suspect that there are more such instances. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 23:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Should the table have a photo of the person, such as George Gordon Meade, or his house, a gift of the citizens of Philadelphia to his wife?-- DThomsen8 ( talk) 12:29, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
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File:Rudolf.Modrzejewski.1931.jpg, has been nominated for deletion at
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Don't panic; a discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion, although please review Commons guidelines before doing so.
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The following Wikimedia Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 23:10, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
I downloaded fresh data from PHMC's current website and re-generated the table using some google sheets hacking. There are now 321 markers in Philadelphia County. The old/new data is combined as follows:
Most differences (visible in the diff for the revision) are adding the new entries and minor formatting consistencies. However, I did check for discrepancies, and I log the differences for the record:
Comments/discussion welcome! Cstanford.math ( talk) 23:04, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Just including a note here, I may add these to the article later. There are apparently 3 new markers approved for 2021, not dedicated yet:
See [1] Cstanford.math ( talk) 23:48, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Update: new marker data from PHMC now live in the table! Caleb Stanford ( talk) 16:22, 20 December 2021 (UTC)