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If the first name of Tsukiko is a play on the term "Lunacy" and her last name means bird, is it possible that this is in fact a joke about the slang phrase "loony bird"?
In the minor characters section, I want to add the guy who was Tsukiko's Chief for the M & F company. You know, black T shirt, sort of husky build but he sort of has a somewhat feminine way of moving. Has the voice of a suck up sort of..but I can't remember his name. I just skimmed through the entire series quickly to see if I could find it but I couldn't. I can't see his name clearly mentioned in any cast lists either, did he even have a name? I think he'd be a valid addition to the Minor characters section.
He dies in the Radar Man episode, and his name can be read in his funeral picture. I don't know how to read kanjis, and his name is never mentioned directly in the episode. Loborojo
Originally I was going to add this to the Paranoia Agent's main page but I felt it would make it too long, so I decided to make it a sub section.
I always felt this series was extremely well done, and felt it deserved a little more of an entry. Espeically seeing as how its now being shown on TV, many will eventually begin to analyze the series.
I made some pages for individual characters not too long ago, but they weren't too popular and too full of speculation rather than facts. So rather than continue on with that mess I thought I'd try to challenge myself to make a more focused entry merely giving a short summary to each character. I'm rather new to making entry's at Wikipedia so I'm very open to suggestions, and ofcourse additional information is more than welcome to be added at anyone's leisure.
I found out that after her dog died, Tsukiko Sagi "created" Makoto Kozuka's alter ego and clone as a mental scapegoat. Because of this reason, i suspect that she not only the protagonist, but is also the real main villain of the story. -- Ed Telerionus 17:53, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
I believe that the real villain of the story is Maromi. She inhibits Tsukiko's ability to come to terms with her past. Douko ( talk) 03:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't this part of Paranoia Agent as a section? A single, 13-episode animated series doesn't seem to me to be worth splitting out a separate page just for character listings. Still, there's some good work here, and it should be preserved. - Harmil 30 June 2005 19:28 (UTC)
I only saw the dubbed version on television, but didn't she discover the photos from the hidden camera in the "trash" on her father's profile, not the Internet?
No, she found them next to the trash can on the desktop. It seems her father was going to delete the files, but when he dragged them to the trash can, he missed and lefted them on the desktop. Then she found them after changing the background.
but, to ask the reaaly dark question, was it ever definitively revealed that he was selling the pics? the "YOU HAVE TO CALL ME DADDY!!!" bit with the whore was a particularly strong indicator that the pics weren't for business alone.
Thank you; that was totally what I meant. Also, it wasn't just the whore; it was the little girl at the house he was robbing just before he caught "Little Slugger." -HurriSbezu
The nature of his need for Taeko's pictures is very cojunctural. He could of been selling them for money...which would go with his overall money grubber ambitions. However, he also did seem to have some very interesting sexual fetishes...there's really no way to tell for certain. Its pretty disturbing either way however. -- Kiyosuki 14:17, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Me and an acquantence looked into some things, and we discoveredvarious details, such as the earliest point where they could have died and the latest point where they could have died. However, there are disputes:
Comments would be nice. -- A Link to the Past 08:27, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
A common mythological theme is that crows escort the souls of the dead to the afterlife, so crows are often used symbolically to represent the transition of the spirit to the world of the afterlife.
Kamome is dead by the time she makes the second phone-call (to enter the sealed room she had to have passed through the wall, expecially as suddenly and eerily as she did. She did not want to be alone, and therefore at her death she went to meet her friends in the afterlife). Both Zebra and Fuyubachi -must- be dead after inhaling the toxic poison and swallowing all the pills, as evident by the fact neither Zebra or Fuyabachi cast shadows on the ground in any other scenes. Look closely in the train station, all three of the characters are the only characters (aside from the ghost of the man who threw himself in front of the train) who have no shadows while everyone else standing around in the station has a shadow beneath them.
As for the internet chat room scenes, they are flashbacks of conversations the characters had online before the meeting in the park.
Now, the only inconsistency I see in the anime is that Fuyubachi swallowed his last painkiller from his botte in the beginning of the episode before he died (he had a shadow before the abandoned building scene) yet his pill has mysteriously returned again at the end of the episode; which is the pivotal point where he realizes he and the others are dead. The only way that could happen is if he was already dead before he ever set out to meet the others in the park, which is a definite plothole in the story. However, it -could- be explained that he was already dead and his shadow was merely a goof on part of the production team and much of his horror at the end is realizing that he was dead and his actions had caused the death of both Zebra and Kamome.
I don't think that the pill is that big of a plothole. he also feels that Zebra's hand is warm, which makes no sense either. i think that he just imagines that the pill is still there, and as they are no longer bound by the physical realm, this makes it so. this "lack of limitation" is also illustrated by their walk at the end of the episode, when as a truck drives by, they all suddenly change location. also, Zebra's the only one who sees the guy on the train because he's farther back than the other two, so he was close enough to notice. Kamome was freaked out by the jumper and Fuyubachi was attending to her. Zebra wasn't doing much of anything, and thusly noticed the other ghost. There is another legend about dying where you always start the next day just like you started the previous day. So Fuyubashi will always have one pill, and the contents of the backpack. Also, they make a comment about the grim reaper being to busy to collect the souls. This is important because it explains why they have not been collected from the mortal realm. They say this after they are already dead. On another note, are we sure he is named Fuyubashi, and not Fuyuhashi? Fuyuhashi translates to "Winter Bee" but Fuyubashi doen't translate to anything significant. This would also play into the prophecy.
The beginning of episode 3 was a litte disturbing... does anyone else agree??
It is obvious that this show deals extensively with human psychology...It seems as though each of the victims has some sort of psychological disorder or condition (e.g. Yuichi-superiority complex, Harumi-Multiple Personalities, Tsukiko-mental and emotional divergence, etc.) It might be appropriate to include a brief psychoanalysis with each character...This might go a long way towards bringing new perspective into this discussion. I hope that someone with a fair knowledge of psychology will be able to make the appropriate edits. Dave 01:45, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Should the information about the characters' known ages be included? e.g I was watching the Radar Man episode and it's revealed that Tsukiko's age is 22. She was 12 years old when the first "Lil Slugger" incident happened, and it was "10 years ago" as stated by the Meganecco doll. Loborojo
It is clear that these two characters were constructed as foils for each other. Even though there is evidence that the director is critical of Yuichi, I have to question the extent of this from what was shown in the anime. I think saying this about him is a bit inaccurate "[he] is really a vain, spoiled brat whose ego has been so overfilled with delusions of popularity and self-indulgence that it has made his mind weak, inflexible and delicate." Besides the unncecessary harshness of this statement, I can't help but question the accuracy of it. For example, was his concept of his own popularity delusional? I don't believe it was. I believe we were led to believe that he was in fact the most popular kid in school so I would believe that his sense of his popularity may not be humble but it certainly wasn't delusional. He certainly does seem vain especially with the numerous teeth shots and his opinion of Shogo, but exactly how spoiled is he? I didn't notice any signs of him being spoiled. His lonely birthday party was not extravagant as I would expect from a kid who is spoiled. His room and home looked typical and in no way suggested wealth or indulgence. Also, is he a brat? a brat is "A child, especially a spoiled or ill-mannered one" yet Yuichi is not spoiled and he doesn't lack manners. He cooperates with the police. Despite his mind breaking down, he was actually rather well behaved. He is clearly not a brat.
Also, it is further suggested that vain self-indulgence and egotism is the reason that lil slugger attacked him. However, lil slugger also attacked Shogo. There is no explanation for this though. If these two characters are to be fairly treated as opposites, then this means that the director was in part critical of both of them. If Yuichi was too vain and egocentric, then Shogo was too submissive and allowed others to walk over him. We are meant to like Shogo for his honesty and kindness, however, he himself was actively trying stop being so passive. If Yuichi's crime was that his ego was gigantic, then Shogo's crime was his inefficacy. Furthermore, wasn't Yuichi treated as a victim throughout all of this? It is true that we see him undergo a mental breakdown and experiencing paranoia. However, we never seen any behavior of his that would require punishment such as this. In fact, the most criticism that could be leveled against Yuichi would be on what he was like before lil slugger but we saw next to none of this except for a few Toothpaste commercial inspired shots. Also, we are definitely meant to like his mother and Harumi who are both very fond of him. Even the likeable Shogo is friendly towards him. Shogo's defending of Yuichi in class against him as lil slugger can be explained as him doing the right thing as the character we like. However, later in the episode, after Yuichi had bullied Shogo, they were walking together as if friends. Clearly, Shogo doesn't think of Yuichi as a bad person despite his behavior towards him. In all of these ways, Yuichi is clearly being presented as an unwarranted victim rather than a villain being punished. I think that the way everything is paralleled between Yuichi and Shogo suggests that the director wasn't exactly critical of either of them but instead of the environment they were in at school with the peer pressure. It seems to make more sense that they were both victims of the current school system and it was lil slugger who released them from it. 159.242.10.215 20:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
These character articles do not have any notabiliity and per Wikipedia policies do not qualify for independant articles. They should be merged into this article. -- Kraftlos ( talk) 10:15, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Agree... It looks as if all of the articles on the merge list were redirected in October 2008 to Paranoia Agent#Characters. Because of this, I'm going to remove the {Mergefrom-multiple} template. The text is still in the history of each article if anyone can be bothered to move it here. David Bailey ( talk) 22:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Should anyone want to retrieve the additional text, please see:
David Bailey ( talk) 22:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I always thought that he was Hibakusha. Tinyboy21 ( talk) 02:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
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If the first name of Tsukiko is a play on the term "Lunacy" and her last name means bird, is it possible that this is in fact a joke about the slang phrase "loony bird"?
In the minor characters section, I want to add the guy who was Tsukiko's Chief for the M & F company. You know, black T shirt, sort of husky build but he sort of has a somewhat feminine way of moving. Has the voice of a suck up sort of..but I can't remember his name. I just skimmed through the entire series quickly to see if I could find it but I couldn't. I can't see his name clearly mentioned in any cast lists either, did he even have a name? I think he'd be a valid addition to the Minor characters section.
He dies in the Radar Man episode, and his name can be read in his funeral picture. I don't know how to read kanjis, and his name is never mentioned directly in the episode. Loborojo
Originally I was going to add this to the Paranoia Agent's main page but I felt it would make it too long, so I decided to make it a sub section.
I always felt this series was extremely well done, and felt it deserved a little more of an entry. Espeically seeing as how its now being shown on TV, many will eventually begin to analyze the series.
I made some pages for individual characters not too long ago, but they weren't too popular and too full of speculation rather than facts. So rather than continue on with that mess I thought I'd try to challenge myself to make a more focused entry merely giving a short summary to each character. I'm rather new to making entry's at Wikipedia so I'm very open to suggestions, and ofcourse additional information is more than welcome to be added at anyone's leisure.
I found out that after her dog died, Tsukiko Sagi "created" Makoto Kozuka's alter ego and clone as a mental scapegoat. Because of this reason, i suspect that she not only the protagonist, but is also the real main villain of the story. -- Ed Telerionus 17:53, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
I believe that the real villain of the story is Maromi. She inhibits Tsukiko's ability to come to terms with her past. Douko ( talk) 03:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't this part of Paranoia Agent as a section? A single, 13-episode animated series doesn't seem to me to be worth splitting out a separate page just for character listings. Still, there's some good work here, and it should be preserved. - Harmil 30 June 2005 19:28 (UTC)
I only saw the dubbed version on television, but didn't she discover the photos from the hidden camera in the "trash" on her father's profile, not the Internet?
No, she found them next to the trash can on the desktop. It seems her father was going to delete the files, but when he dragged them to the trash can, he missed and lefted them on the desktop. Then she found them after changing the background.
but, to ask the reaaly dark question, was it ever definitively revealed that he was selling the pics? the "YOU HAVE TO CALL ME DADDY!!!" bit with the whore was a particularly strong indicator that the pics weren't for business alone.
Thank you; that was totally what I meant. Also, it wasn't just the whore; it was the little girl at the house he was robbing just before he caught "Little Slugger." -HurriSbezu
The nature of his need for Taeko's pictures is very cojunctural. He could of been selling them for money...which would go with his overall money grubber ambitions. However, he also did seem to have some very interesting sexual fetishes...there's really no way to tell for certain. Its pretty disturbing either way however. -- Kiyosuki 14:17, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Me and an acquantence looked into some things, and we discoveredvarious details, such as the earliest point where they could have died and the latest point where they could have died. However, there are disputes:
Comments would be nice. -- A Link to the Past 08:27, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
A common mythological theme is that crows escort the souls of the dead to the afterlife, so crows are often used symbolically to represent the transition of the spirit to the world of the afterlife.
Kamome is dead by the time she makes the second phone-call (to enter the sealed room she had to have passed through the wall, expecially as suddenly and eerily as she did. She did not want to be alone, and therefore at her death she went to meet her friends in the afterlife). Both Zebra and Fuyubachi -must- be dead after inhaling the toxic poison and swallowing all the pills, as evident by the fact neither Zebra or Fuyabachi cast shadows on the ground in any other scenes. Look closely in the train station, all three of the characters are the only characters (aside from the ghost of the man who threw himself in front of the train) who have no shadows while everyone else standing around in the station has a shadow beneath them.
As for the internet chat room scenes, they are flashbacks of conversations the characters had online before the meeting in the park.
Now, the only inconsistency I see in the anime is that Fuyubachi swallowed his last painkiller from his botte in the beginning of the episode before he died (he had a shadow before the abandoned building scene) yet his pill has mysteriously returned again at the end of the episode; which is the pivotal point where he realizes he and the others are dead. The only way that could happen is if he was already dead before he ever set out to meet the others in the park, which is a definite plothole in the story. However, it -could- be explained that he was already dead and his shadow was merely a goof on part of the production team and much of his horror at the end is realizing that he was dead and his actions had caused the death of both Zebra and Kamome.
I don't think that the pill is that big of a plothole. he also feels that Zebra's hand is warm, which makes no sense either. i think that he just imagines that the pill is still there, and as they are no longer bound by the physical realm, this makes it so. this "lack of limitation" is also illustrated by their walk at the end of the episode, when as a truck drives by, they all suddenly change location. also, Zebra's the only one who sees the guy on the train because he's farther back than the other two, so he was close enough to notice. Kamome was freaked out by the jumper and Fuyubachi was attending to her. Zebra wasn't doing much of anything, and thusly noticed the other ghost. There is another legend about dying where you always start the next day just like you started the previous day. So Fuyubashi will always have one pill, and the contents of the backpack. Also, they make a comment about the grim reaper being to busy to collect the souls. This is important because it explains why they have not been collected from the mortal realm. They say this after they are already dead. On another note, are we sure he is named Fuyubashi, and not Fuyuhashi? Fuyuhashi translates to "Winter Bee" but Fuyubashi doen't translate to anything significant. This would also play into the prophecy.
The beginning of episode 3 was a litte disturbing... does anyone else agree??
It is obvious that this show deals extensively with human psychology...It seems as though each of the victims has some sort of psychological disorder or condition (e.g. Yuichi-superiority complex, Harumi-Multiple Personalities, Tsukiko-mental and emotional divergence, etc.) It might be appropriate to include a brief psychoanalysis with each character...This might go a long way towards bringing new perspective into this discussion. I hope that someone with a fair knowledge of psychology will be able to make the appropriate edits. Dave 01:45, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Should the information about the characters' known ages be included? e.g I was watching the Radar Man episode and it's revealed that Tsukiko's age is 22. She was 12 years old when the first "Lil Slugger" incident happened, and it was "10 years ago" as stated by the Meganecco doll. Loborojo
It is clear that these two characters were constructed as foils for each other. Even though there is evidence that the director is critical of Yuichi, I have to question the extent of this from what was shown in the anime. I think saying this about him is a bit inaccurate "[he] is really a vain, spoiled brat whose ego has been so overfilled with delusions of popularity and self-indulgence that it has made his mind weak, inflexible and delicate." Besides the unncecessary harshness of this statement, I can't help but question the accuracy of it. For example, was his concept of his own popularity delusional? I don't believe it was. I believe we were led to believe that he was in fact the most popular kid in school so I would believe that his sense of his popularity may not be humble but it certainly wasn't delusional. He certainly does seem vain especially with the numerous teeth shots and his opinion of Shogo, but exactly how spoiled is he? I didn't notice any signs of him being spoiled. His lonely birthday party was not extravagant as I would expect from a kid who is spoiled. His room and home looked typical and in no way suggested wealth or indulgence. Also, is he a brat? a brat is "A child, especially a spoiled or ill-mannered one" yet Yuichi is not spoiled and he doesn't lack manners. He cooperates with the police. Despite his mind breaking down, he was actually rather well behaved. He is clearly not a brat.
Also, it is further suggested that vain self-indulgence and egotism is the reason that lil slugger attacked him. However, lil slugger also attacked Shogo. There is no explanation for this though. If these two characters are to be fairly treated as opposites, then this means that the director was in part critical of both of them. If Yuichi was too vain and egocentric, then Shogo was too submissive and allowed others to walk over him. We are meant to like Shogo for his honesty and kindness, however, he himself was actively trying stop being so passive. If Yuichi's crime was that his ego was gigantic, then Shogo's crime was his inefficacy. Furthermore, wasn't Yuichi treated as a victim throughout all of this? It is true that we see him undergo a mental breakdown and experiencing paranoia. However, we never seen any behavior of his that would require punishment such as this. In fact, the most criticism that could be leveled against Yuichi would be on what he was like before lil slugger but we saw next to none of this except for a few Toothpaste commercial inspired shots. Also, we are definitely meant to like his mother and Harumi who are both very fond of him. Even the likeable Shogo is friendly towards him. Shogo's defending of Yuichi in class against him as lil slugger can be explained as him doing the right thing as the character we like. However, later in the episode, after Yuichi had bullied Shogo, they were walking together as if friends. Clearly, Shogo doesn't think of Yuichi as a bad person despite his behavior towards him. In all of these ways, Yuichi is clearly being presented as an unwarranted victim rather than a villain being punished. I think that the way everything is paralleled between Yuichi and Shogo suggests that the director wasn't exactly critical of either of them but instead of the environment they were in at school with the peer pressure. It seems to make more sense that they were both victims of the current school system and it was lil slugger who released them from it. 159.242.10.215 20:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
These character articles do not have any notabiliity and per Wikipedia policies do not qualify for independant articles. They should be merged into this article. -- Kraftlos ( talk) 10:15, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Agree... It looks as if all of the articles on the merge list were redirected in October 2008 to Paranoia Agent#Characters. Because of this, I'm going to remove the {Mergefrom-multiple} template. The text is still in the history of each article if anyone can be bothered to move it here. David Bailey ( talk) 22:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Should anyone want to retrieve the additional text, please see:
David Bailey ( talk) 22:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I always thought that he was Hibakusha. Tinyboy21 ( talk) 02:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
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