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There are some good comparisons for CSA-like and MSA-like areas in Canada and Mexico using 2020 data found on citypopulation.de for Canadian census divisions and Mexican municipios. Definitions are included, so edits to these areas can be made. http://ns.faculty.brynathyn.edu/metro/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by NSatBAC ( talk • contribs) 00:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Something like...
Rank | Metropolitan area | Country |
MSA-style
Population (2020) |
CSA-style
Population (2020) |
Population
(2015) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Mexico City |
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21,838,909 | 29,717,883 | 20,892,724 |
2 | New York City |
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20,140,470 | 23,582,649 | 20,182,305 |
3 | Los Angeles |
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13,200,998 | 18,644,680 | 13,340,068 |
4 | Chicago |
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9,618,502 | 9,986,960 | 9,551,031 |
5 | Dallas–Fort Worth |
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7,637,387 | 8,130,313 | 7,102,796 |
6 | Houston |
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7,122,240 | 7,312,270 | 6,656,947 |
7 | Washington, D.C. |
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6,385,162 | 9,973,383 | 6,097,684 |
8 | Toronto |
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6,362,892 | 8,414,996 | 6,116,725 |
9 | Philadelphia |
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6,245,051 | 7,379,700 | 6,069,875 |
10 | Miami |
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6,138,333 | 6,868,652 | 6,012,331 |
11 | Atlanta |
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6,089,815 | 6,930,423 | 5,710,795 |
12 | Guadalajara |
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5,419,899 | 6,371,436 | 4,887,383 |
13 | Monterrey |
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5,371,198 | 6,677,595 | 4,689,601 |
14 | Boston |
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4,941,632 | 8,466,186 | 4,774,321 |
15 | Phoenix |
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4,845,832 | 4,899,104 | 4,574,531 |
16 | San Francisco |
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4,749,008 | 9,714,023 | 4,656,132 |
17 | Inland Empire |
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4,599,839 | Los Angeles | 4,489,159 |
18 | Montreal |
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4,471,675 | 5,219,853 | 4,045,877 |
19 | Detroit |
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4,392,041 | 5,424,742 | 4,302,043 |
20 | Seattle |
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4,018,762 | 4,953,421 | 3,733,580 |
Please note that Mexico's 2020 census results are now known. Monterrey (Metro) area has a population of 5.34 million. Monterrey is also bigger than Guadalajara. https://www.infobae.com/america/mexico/2021/01/25/censo-2020-estas-son-las-tres-entidades-con-mayor-poblacion-en-mexico/
To do this in the most democratic way possible, this list needs re-ordering. For reasons unknown to me, the San Francisco Bay Area is commonly subject to errors in demography, and [ Wikipedia Article for the San Francisco - Oakland - San Jose area] shows population at 8,607,423. This means the SF Bay Area should be at position 5 on this list, after Chicago. All the below rankings thus also need to be modified, since the article currently shows the Bay Area with a population of under 5 million. People are constantly commuting and traveling all over the Bay Area, it is incorrect to conclude that San Jose is a separate metropolitan region than San Francisco, they really are the same and lots of people including myself commute across the Bay Area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carl.r.larson ( talk • contribs) 18:44, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Why not San Juan, PR? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.120.17 ( talk) 06:25, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Removed bit about Canadian metro areas generally having larger areas than their American counterparts. This was unsourced, and as far as I know the opposite is actually true more often than not. 184.148.85.166 ( talk) 17:30, 21 June 2013 (UTC)LW
Why include Cuba, Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico, but not the other countries of the Greater Antilles - Haiti and Jamaica? Port-au-Prince and likely Kingston would also make this list if those countries were included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.179.12.2 ( talk) 16:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
There are some issues here regarding how cities and metropolitan areas population counts are introduced. Based on the definition the metropolitan area of Detroit does not include Windsor which instead is part of an urban conurbation which transcends borders, where as metropolitan areas do not. This also excludes Tijuana San Diego which is also a conurbation. While this information is interesting it does not follow the definition that the page provides both in name and in the lead-in. Perhaps an additional page can be created with largest urban conurbations but I think it is best for this page to follow the metropolitan definition which can also be more easily sourced. I also believe that is important to provide more references as this will help solve discrepancies and can more easily follow census quoted data which becomes the most reliable source, despite their problem with undercounts. Krazytea( talk) 21:28, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
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It seems some believe that 30+ links to the United States article is somehow a good idea. Well it isn't - check the MOS guidlines. Also the silly flag icons although quite colorful are useless in this context. Yes - an image (at default size) of a country's flag is appropriate within an infobox in the article of a country. However, the repeated addition of a tiny flag icon is rather useless "eye candy". I've removed them again. Vsmith ( talk) 04:31, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
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There are some good comparisons for CSA-like and MSA-like areas in Canada and Mexico using 2020 data found on citypopulation.de for Canadian census divisions and Mexican municipios. Definitions are included, so edits to these areas can be made. http://ns.faculty.brynathyn.edu/metro/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by NSatBAC ( talk • contribs) 00:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Something like...
Rank | Metropolitan area | Country |
MSA-style
Population (2020) |
CSA-style
Population (2020) |
Population
(2015) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Mexico City |
![]() |
21,838,909 | 29,717,883 | 20,892,724 |
2 | New York City |
![]() |
20,140,470 | 23,582,649 | 20,182,305 |
3 | Los Angeles |
![]() |
13,200,998 | 18,644,680 | 13,340,068 |
4 | Chicago |
![]() |
9,618,502 | 9,986,960 | 9,551,031 |
5 | Dallas–Fort Worth |
![]() |
7,637,387 | 8,130,313 | 7,102,796 |
6 | Houston |
![]() |
7,122,240 | 7,312,270 | 6,656,947 |
7 | Washington, D.C. |
![]() |
6,385,162 | 9,973,383 | 6,097,684 |
8 | Toronto |
![]() |
6,362,892 | 8,414,996 | 6,116,725 |
9 | Philadelphia |
![]() |
6,245,051 | 7,379,700 | 6,069,875 |
10 | Miami |
![]() |
6,138,333 | 6,868,652 | 6,012,331 |
11 | Atlanta |
![]() |
6,089,815 | 6,930,423 | 5,710,795 |
12 | Guadalajara |
![]() |
5,419,899 | 6,371,436 | 4,887,383 |
13 | Monterrey |
![]() |
5,371,198 | 6,677,595 | 4,689,601 |
14 | Boston |
![]() |
4,941,632 | 8,466,186 | 4,774,321 |
15 | Phoenix |
![]() |
4,845,832 | 4,899,104 | 4,574,531 |
16 | San Francisco |
![]() |
4,749,008 | 9,714,023 | 4,656,132 |
17 | Inland Empire |
![]() |
4,599,839 | Los Angeles | 4,489,159 |
18 | Montreal |
![]() |
4,471,675 | 5,219,853 | 4,045,877 |
19 | Detroit |
![]() |
4,392,041 | 5,424,742 | 4,302,043 |
20 | Seattle |
![]() |
4,018,762 | 4,953,421 | 3,733,580 |
Please note that Mexico's 2020 census results are now known. Monterrey (Metro) area has a population of 5.34 million. Monterrey is also bigger than Guadalajara. https://www.infobae.com/america/mexico/2021/01/25/censo-2020-estas-son-las-tres-entidades-con-mayor-poblacion-en-mexico/
To do this in the most democratic way possible, this list needs re-ordering. For reasons unknown to me, the San Francisco Bay Area is commonly subject to errors in demography, and [ Wikipedia Article for the San Francisco - Oakland - San Jose area] shows population at 8,607,423. This means the SF Bay Area should be at position 5 on this list, after Chicago. All the below rankings thus also need to be modified, since the article currently shows the Bay Area with a population of under 5 million. People are constantly commuting and traveling all over the Bay Area, it is incorrect to conclude that San Jose is a separate metropolitan region than San Francisco, they really are the same and lots of people including myself commute across the Bay Area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carl.r.larson ( talk • contribs) 18:44, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Why not San Juan, PR? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.120.17 ( talk) 06:25, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Removed bit about Canadian metro areas generally having larger areas than their American counterparts. This was unsourced, and as far as I know the opposite is actually true more often than not. 184.148.85.166 ( talk) 17:30, 21 June 2013 (UTC)LW
Why include Cuba, Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico, but not the other countries of the Greater Antilles - Haiti and Jamaica? Port-au-Prince and likely Kingston would also make this list if those countries were included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.179.12.2 ( talk) 16:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
There are some issues here regarding how cities and metropolitan areas population counts are introduced. Based on the definition the metropolitan area of Detroit does not include Windsor which instead is part of an urban conurbation which transcends borders, where as metropolitan areas do not. This also excludes Tijuana San Diego which is also a conurbation. While this information is interesting it does not follow the definition that the page provides both in name and in the lead-in. Perhaps an additional page can be created with largest urban conurbations but I think it is best for this page to follow the metropolitan definition which can also be more easily sourced. I also believe that is important to provide more references as this will help solve discrepancies and can more easily follow census quoted data which becomes the most reliable source, despite their problem with undercounts. Krazytea( talk) 21:28, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
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It seems some believe that 30+ links to the United States article is somehow a good idea. Well it isn't - check the MOS guidlines. Also the silly flag icons although quite colorful are useless in this context. Yes - an image (at default size) of a country's flag is appropriate within an infobox in the article of a country. However, the repeated addition of a tiny flag icon is rather useless "eye candy". I've removed them again. Vsmith ( talk) 04:31, 29 June 2018 (UTC)