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This page is a great beginning, and needs some more work. Few of the assertions here have consensus among Mycenologists. I fixed the "definitions" and LB transliterative spellings for a few of the entries, but multiple reputable citations are needed for quite a few of these. Single source, esp. an unpublished PDF source, might not be ideal for citation here. And while Palaeolexicon is awesome, it is also based on a very old lexicon (Hooker), and some of the definitions are either no longer accurate or disputed. k. da-ma-te ( talk) 20:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
should we list all the deities with the title Potnia such as Potnia Aswia (po-ta-ni-ja a-sa-wi-a), Potnia Igweja (po-ti-ni-ja i-qe-ja) or should we just list one Potnia and make reference to the others. Potnia is believed to be represented as a separate goddess in some parts of Mycenae. -- Russianamerican1 ( talk) 23:20, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
FYI, I removed the reference the da-ma-te as Demeter, but left the epithet. The etymology has been disproven for da-ma-te as Demeter many times, and there's a great section written on this very topic in "Interpreting the Linear B Records: Some Guidelines" by Yves Duhoux in the 2011 A Companion to Linear B: Mycenaean Greek Texts and their World vol. II (edited by Yves Duhoux and Anna Morpurgo Davies). k. da-ma-te ( talk) 19:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
For the record and for any editor reading this:
I have in mind (provided e.g. I'll indeed spend or I'll continue to spend an enormous amound of time and effort on this article, like I have done for the last days), I propose, to add under Heroes, mortals and other entities or concepts (or however this section might be renamed, etc.):
Under their own subsections, I guess.
And of course accompanied by reliable sources.
P.S. Also, under Deities or somewhere, other possibly Creto-Minoan-Mycenaean Gods like *56-ti.
P.P.S. Btw, should I preemptively note that this article may still be regarded as a work in progress?
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Some Linear B cited in this article is, unfortunately, hapax legomenon in the Linear B corpus. Unless there is overwhelming circumstantial evidence, it's almost always impossible to define a hapax word with any certainty. I propose we strongly consider removing these unless sufficient circumstantial evidence is provided. -kim. ( talk) 05:07, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't have an entry for these (something I need to fix in the LB Transliterations), so more research needed to check if they're hapax:
Some examples of circumstantial evidence which can help corroborate a tentative definition:
Yves Duhoux showed that the sign group originally transliterated as ma-ka at Knossos is actually ma-qe in 2005, and there's no good contextual evidence for ma-ka on the Thebes tablets to imply a theonym, so I went ahead and removed that one entirely. Ref: Kadmos v. 44 (2005) “Adieu au MA-KA Cnossien: une nouvelle lecture en KN F 51 et ses consequence pour les tablettes lineaire B de Thebes” by Yves Duhoux -kim. ( talk) 05:28, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
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This page is a great beginning, and needs some more work. Few of the assertions here have consensus among Mycenologists. I fixed the "definitions" and LB transliterative spellings for a few of the entries, but multiple reputable citations are needed for quite a few of these. Single source, esp. an unpublished PDF source, might not be ideal for citation here. And while Palaeolexicon is awesome, it is also based on a very old lexicon (Hooker), and some of the definitions are either no longer accurate or disputed. k. da-ma-te ( talk) 20:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
should we list all the deities with the title Potnia such as Potnia Aswia (po-ta-ni-ja a-sa-wi-a), Potnia Igweja (po-ti-ni-ja i-qe-ja) or should we just list one Potnia and make reference to the others. Potnia is believed to be represented as a separate goddess in some parts of Mycenae. -- Russianamerican1 ( talk) 23:20, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
FYI, I removed the reference the da-ma-te as Demeter, but left the epithet. The etymology has been disproven for da-ma-te as Demeter many times, and there's a great section written on this very topic in "Interpreting the Linear B Records: Some Guidelines" by Yves Duhoux in the 2011 A Companion to Linear B: Mycenaean Greek Texts and their World vol. II (edited by Yves Duhoux and Anna Morpurgo Davies). k. da-ma-te ( talk) 19:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
For the record and for any editor reading this:
I have in mind (provided e.g. I'll indeed spend or I'll continue to spend an enormous amound of time and effort on this article, like I have done for the last days), I propose, to add under Heroes, mortals and other entities or concepts (or however this section might be renamed, etc.):
Under their own subsections, I guess.
And of course accompanied by reliable sources.
P.S. Also, under Deities or somewhere, other possibly Creto-Minoan-Mycenaean Gods like *56-ti.
P.P.S. Btw, should I preemptively note that this article may still be regarded as a work in progress?
Thanatos|
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18:22, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Some Linear B cited in this article is, unfortunately, hapax legomenon in the Linear B corpus. Unless there is overwhelming circumstantial evidence, it's almost always impossible to define a hapax word with any certainty. I propose we strongly consider removing these unless sufficient circumstantial evidence is provided. -kim. ( talk) 05:07, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't have an entry for these (something I need to fix in the LB Transliterations), so more research needed to check if they're hapax:
Some examples of circumstantial evidence which can help corroborate a tentative definition:
Yves Duhoux showed that the sign group originally transliterated as ma-ka at Knossos is actually ma-qe in 2005, and there's no good contextual evidence for ma-ka on the Thebes tablets to imply a theonym, so I went ahead and removed that one entirely. Ref: Kadmos v. 44 (2005) “Adieu au MA-KA Cnossien: une nouvelle lecture en KN F 51 et ses consequence pour les tablettes lineaire B de Thebes” by Yves Duhoux -kim. ( talk) 05:28, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
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