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A reader popped up on WP:Discord and alerted to the fact that the page had actually reached its template transclusion limit. Since the list would not make sense any other way, I therefore decided to split it into its constituent list articles (of which there are 13). The original article had an unclear citation style and just put everything under the External links section. Now, several of the split list articles are unreferenced. I'd appreciate someone smarter than me figuring that out, so I wanted to leave an explanation here. If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. – MJL ‐Talk‐ ☖ 17:07, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Discussing the latest edit by MJL.
I'd like to revert the latest change, since you can no longer Ctrl+F through the page for quick comparison of Xeon CPUs. If the change is not reverted, each time one wants to find a CPU by it's model number, they'd have to a) open up all pages b) open up a selection of pages based on their best guess of the architecture.
I'll make the change on 22. Dec, 2019, if there's no response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jtagcat ( talk • contribs) 20:17, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Seconding this: these revisions have taken a useful resource and made it completely unusable. 2.127.74.104 ( talk) 16:56, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Discussing the latest edit by MJL.
Supporting the Jtagcat desire. <I'd like to revert the latest change, since you can no longer Ctrl+F through the page for quick comparison of Xeon CPUs. If the change is not reverted, each time one wants to find a CPU by it's model number, they'd have to a) open up all pages b) open up a selection of pages based on their best guess of the architecture.>
I also use this wiki page for full list search and compare of Xeon Processors. And All other lists as List of Intel Core i7 microprocessors, List of Intel Core i5 microprocessors, List of Nvidia graphics processing units and others - are full and without shorting links. I think its way more comfortable for usage.
If there is some issues with page lenth I suggest you to just shorten lists with old <end of life> CPU`s which are not in common use today.
On my opinion the CPU`s from <Intel Nehalem-based Xeon> and newer are still in use and dont needed to be shorten.
In fact I frequently compare Sandy and Ivy Bridge Xeons and newer. Please support my suggestion. But if changes wont be done I`ll undone it by myself to previous version. Sorry, I cant edit page by myself because I have no enough time to do that.
Mrrnnn ( talk) 01:25, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Oh my fucking lord, if I had any!! Not THIS bullshit again, pretty please? I remember there was something similar couple years ago with List of Nvidia graphics processing units (and possibly AMD too). Fortunatelly ppl were sane and reverted back to what it looked like for a decade (and still does). Of course that you deal with things such as these by improving the bloody template architecture, because articles such as these are why GAZILLION ppl still come here, not by pretty much destroying the whole thing. Start messing with that and you might as well just turn the lights off and close the shop. (Which is what will happen anyway soon with that encryption BS but that's for another discussion).
I mean, heck, there was a reason why everything was on a single page (when some of you don't see it, it does not mean it is not there) and that's why so many ppl incl. me were using it for years in the first place! So anyways, let's give it a few weeks and if it won't revert to the state everybody was happy with, by dealing with the underlaying problem (instead of breaking the article, a very far level of where the problem is), I'll use all them bloody copycats who have copies of the previous variant and put it in its previous state on to my own frelling webserver where it will be hapilly running for the next 40 years without anybody messing with it. I need to USE articles such as these, not them using ME as a moron robot crawler which has to go through dozen pages to get to a few simple pieces of information.
Putting a shorter version to simple wiki is nothing but a temporary solution, I hope, cause a situation when there is not a full list of ALL the Xeon CPUs clearly is unsatisfactory. Behemot ( talk) 17:12, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Maybe this was already considered, but can we get around the template transclusion limit by making a new sub-template for each section, like in List of AMD Ryzen microprocessors? I'm guessing not but wanted to make sure. -- Vossanova o< 16:54, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
For some reason when I hit the page for "List of Xeon microprocessors" on standard English Wikipedia it redirects to this page, and to access the actual "list of Xeon microprocessors" I now have to use simple English Wikipedia. Can someone please correct this error? - Extec286 ( talk) 21:28, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
simple:List of Xeon microprocessors
and hit ↵ Enter, then you'll be taken directly to that page.simple:
prefix or otherwise find yourself at this page, then you can just click on the
hatnote at the top to go directly there.So why does it seemingly display correctly on Simple Wikipedia? 24.231.162.197 ( talk) 19:31, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Please do not add processor models without either an Intel ARK link or some other reliable source, such as several models in List of Intel Cascade Lake-based Xeon microprocessors. There's no elegant way (that I know of) to add an inline "cn" tag in the cpulist model field, so editors will have to see the warning template at the top of the page. Unreferenced processors should be removed. -- Vossanova o< 16:01, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
In my entire life, I have not seen a wikipedia article this bad, to be honest the design choice is even more terrible than PHP. Cmon peoples, work it out, divide the article into categories (Desktop, mobile processors, etc...) and then cut the categories down into CPUs generation, it will be tiring work, but it will be worth it. Ohwelpwelp ( talk) 13:02, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
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A reader popped up on WP:Discord and alerted to the fact that the page had actually reached its template transclusion limit. Since the list would not make sense any other way, I therefore decided to split it into its constituent list articles (of which there are 13). The original article had an unclear citation style and just put everything under the External links section. Now, several of the split list articles are unreferenced. I'd appreciate someone smarter than me figuring that out, so I wanted to leave an explanation here. If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. – MJL ‐Talk‐ ☖ 17:07, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Discussing the latest edit by MJL.
I'd like to revert the latest change, since you can no longer Ctrl+F through the page for quick comparison of Xeon CPUs. If the change is not reverted, each time one wants to find a CPU by it's model number, they'd have to a) open up all pages b) open up a selection of pages based on their best guess of the architecture.
I'll make the change on 22. Dec, 2019, if there's no response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jtagcat ( talk • contribs) 20:17, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Seconding this: these revisions have taken a useful resource and made it completely unusable. 2.127.74.104 ( talk) 16:56, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Discussing the latest edit by MJL.
Supporting the Jtagcat desire. <I'd like to revert the latest change, since you can no longer Ctrl+F through the page for quick comparison of Xeon CPUs. If the change is not reverted, each time one wants to find a CPU by it's model number, they'd have to a) open up all pages b) open up a selection of pages based on their best guess of the architecture.>
I also use this wiki page for full list search and compare of Xeon Processors. And All other lists as List of Intel Core i7 microprocessors, List of Intel Core i5 microprocessors, List of Nvidia graphics processing units and others - are full and without shorting links. I think its way more comfortable for usage.
If there is some issues with page lenth I suggest you to just shorten lists with old <end of life> CPU`s which are not in common use today.
On my opinion the CPU`s from <Intel Nehalem-based Xeon> and newer are still in use and dont needed to be shorten.
In fact I frequently compare Sandy and Ivy Bridge Xeons and newer. Please support my suggestion. But if changes wont be done I`ll undone it by myself to previous version. Sorry, I cant edit page by myself because I have no enough time to do that.
Mrrnnn ( talk) 01:25, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Oh my fucking lord, if I had any!! Not THIS bullshit again, pretty please? I remember there was something similar couple years ago with List of Nvidia graphics processing units (and possibly AMD too). Fortunatelly ppl were sane and reverted back to what it looked like for a decade (and still does). Of course that you deal with things such as these by improving the bloody template architecture, because articles such as these are why GAZILLION ppl still come here, not by pretty much destroying the whole thing. Start messing with that and you might as well just turn the lights off and close the shop. (Which is what will happen anyway soon with that encryption BS but that's for another discussion).
I mean, heck, there was a reason why everything was on a single page (when some of you don't see it, it does not mean it is not there) and that's why so many ppl incl. me were using it for years in the first place! So anyways, let's give it a few weeks and if it won't revert to the state everybody was happy with, by dealing with the underlaying problem (instead of breaking the article, a very far level of where the problem is), I'll use all them bloody copycats who have copies of the previous variant and put it in its previous state on to my own frelling webserver where it will be hapilly running for the next 40 years without anybody messing with it. I need to USE articles such as these, not them using ME as a moron robot crawler which has to go through dozen pages to get to a few simple pieces of information.
Putting a shorter version to simple wiki is nothing but a temporary solution, I hope, cause a situation when there is not a full list of ALL the Xeon CPUs clearly is unsatisfactory. Behemot ( talk) 17:12, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Maybe this was already considered, but can we get around the template transclusion limit by making a new sub-template for each section, like in List of AMD Ryzen microprocessors? I'm guessing not but wanted to make sure. -- Vossanova o< 16:54, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
For some reason when I hit the page for "List of Xeon microprocessors" on standard English Wikipedia it redirects to this page, and to access the actual "list of Xeon microprocessors" I now have to use simple English Wikipedia. Can someone please correct this error? - Extec286 ( talk) 21:28, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
simple:List of Xeon microprocessors
and hit ↵ Enter, then you'll be taken directly to that page.simple:
prefix or otherwise find yourself at this page, then you can just click on the
hatnote at the top to go directly there.So why does it seemingly display correctly on Simple Wikipedia? 24.231.162.197 ( talk) 19:31, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Please do not add processor models without either an Intel ARK link or some other reliable source, such as several models in List of Intel Cascade Lake-based Xeon microprocessors. There's no elegant way (that I know of) to add an inline "cn" tag in the cpulist model field, so editors will have to see the warning template at the top of the page. Unreferenced processors should be removed. -- Vossanova o< 16:01, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
In my entire life, I have not seen a wikipedia article this bad, to be honest the design choice is even more terrible than PHP. Cmon peoples, work it out, divide the article into categories (Desktop, mobile processors, etc...) and then cut the categories down into CPUs generation, it will be tiring work, but it will be worth it. Ohwelpwelp ( talk) 13:02, 4 April 2023 (UTC)