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Following the guidelines laid out in WP:LEAD/the example of various featured lists, I'm trying to expand the lead. Something like this is a possible structure:
If anybody has suggestions on what to include/leave out, add them here, or, of course, directly to the article. Suki Dakara 02:04, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Some external links I've managed to find that I'll put here: not all of them are that great, but they're a start. Please incorporate into the article + the reception section if possible. And of course, add more if/when you find them.
This probably has been brought up but since I can't find any mention of it, I'll set up discussion here. Basically, since the Espada sections are listed in order of rank, shouldn't we move Yammy up above Starrk? Whilst Yammy does say in that chapter (Ch. 354 in Shounen Jump) that his rank changes when he releases, he also says the Espada rankings go from 0 to 9, not 1 to 10. Therefore, it seems fairly clear that Yammy comes first. Is there a reason this change hasn't already been implemented? -- Suki Dakara 22:06, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Of the reception info linked a few posts above, a lot seems geared towards Grimmjow. Thoughts on reviving the old Grimmjow page and adding this reception stuff to it? 207.80.142.5 ( talk) 15:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, she was sliced by Aizan, but so was Ichigo when Aizan betrayed Soul Society, and Koga (the Bount) was sliced by Hitsugaya, AND Ichinose by Zaraki, and they were all presumed dead but survived. Heck, Ichigo survived getting 3/4 of his chest removed by Ulquiorra and Grimmjow's still alive ater being beaten up by Ichigo and Nnoitra, so Tia might not be dead. 142.26.194.190 ( talk) 14:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Some notes on Starrk from corrections made to the entry.
- Starrk and Lylynette are one being. Lylynette is not a fracción.
- Starrk was not a Menos at the time of meeting Aizen.
- Starrk and Lylynette were both Arrancars before meeting Aizen. This is visually clear in chapter 475.
- Starrk and Lylynette do not remember what the hollow they split from was called or which of them (if either) it resembled.
I dont think any of these can seriously be disputed based on 473-475.
174.46.28.58 ( talk) 21:13, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
The reason I'm asking is because while describing the vasto lordes Hitsugaya says they're roughly human-sized and far more powerful than an adjuchas. Barragan (and Ichigo's new Hollow form for that matter) both fit that description. Additionally, both their masks (Barragan's "skull" and Hollow Ichigo's mask) cover their entire heads. 142.26.194.190 ( talk) 20:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Should we included Lilynette as a Separate from Starrk or leave them together, because Starrk says "We are the Primera Espada, Coyote Starrk and Lilynette Gingerback, and this is our power." on page 15 of chapter 373. Which might mean Lilynette is also an Espada.
If the order of the espada is strongest to weakest; why is Yammy, who is the strongest of the espada, below Starrk, the second strongest? 86.138.98.60 ( talk) 10:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
this is the list of hollows in bleach, but the way the article is headed, there seems to be a list of arrancars only or arrancars who were once introduced as hollows. I think the other section shouldn't say "The following are those arrancar that have never received a position as an Espada." Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Also the overview explains a little more on soul reaper than Hollows. Should those tiny trivial pieces be removed? Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:27, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I know it's a little early to be bringing this up, possibly 1-2 volumes early by American/English releases, but with Ilfort's last name being translated as Grantz, and them being identified as brothers. Would it be safe to say it's Szayel Aporro Grantz, or is that a little too WP:OR ? DaisukeVulgar ( talk) 18:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
since Nel was shown as a weakling arrancar more than espada number 3, we should put her in "other" rather than "espada" section. right? Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Ok, then i guess Nel can be the exception then. Bread Ninja ( talk) 18:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Also since Nel tu is more commonly known as "nel tu" shouldn't we change her name title? Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:36, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
She has lost the title of Espada though. Bread Ninja ( talk) 19:00, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
::::As I've said before, the Other section, as it states is for "those arrancar that have never received a position as an Espada". There is really no reason to argue against her being in the Espada section.
DaisukeVulgar (
talk)
20:13, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Edit: She was Still Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck as an Espada, that is why she's shown as that within the section. It says she's more commonly known as 'Nel Tu' any way, so I think its fine. DaisukeVulgar ( talk) 20:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
She was introduced as Nel Tu not Neliel Tu Odelschwanck. it was later revealed that she "was" a former espada (number 3)and her full name. Seeing as how haribel is the new espada number 3 it's not really correct to leave Nel tu as an espada while someone else also has the same title. not only that but it appears that only one can hold the title of espada seeing as there are privaron espadas Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Luppi was introduced as an espada. Nel wasn't. anyways leave it the way you want. but i feel the Other section being far too specific making the article more about "Espadas and Fraccion" rather than hollows in general. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:14, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I fear some or all Spanish translations is what making the article in an in-universe style due to no sources or because of Original Research. We should try to find sources for the spanish translations and even the Japanese ones for the chapters that ahve yet to be in english. Bread Ninja ( talk) 19:00, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
I noticed they had already changed it on the Bleach Wikia, but didn't want to change it without putting it up in the discussion. Afraid I don't know the actual source Its from the 10th official gum card set, so its official, right?
[14]. Are we to change it to Baraggan, or not?
DaisukeVulgar (
talk)
01:36, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
The psychotic Zanpakutou from the latest anime filler hollowfied, so that makes him a hollow now, so shouldn't he be mentioned in the "Other" section? And shouldn't Hollow Ichigo be at least mentioned in the article, 'cause he's a Hollow as well. He's a major antagonist of the series, after all. It seems to me that this article may as well be retitled Arrancar, 'cause that's all that's in it. What about Orihime's big brother? That bat-serial killer hollow? Come to think of it, what happened to them? Wouldn't Orihime's brother be in Soul Society? (The gates of Hell gimmick used on the bat hollow was great, but it looks to be a one-time thing.) Anyways, this article needs a few more Hollows, not just Arrancar. 75.157.110.77 ( talk) 03:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
please show me where it was shown that grimmjow used to be Arrancar 12 before becoming an Espada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.4.107.52 ( talk) 21:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Don't Hollows had Creation and Conception? Didn't Title Kubo said anything about them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cococrash11 ( talk • contribs) 19:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 05:45, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
List of hollows in Bleach → List of Hollows in Bleach — Since "Hollow" is capitalized in the context of this article, it would be fitting to capitalize it in the page name. Spindori ( talk) 18:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
If you look at his helmet/mask, it changes between when he is introduced and his death. On the last page of Chapter 190, his hemelt is covered in cracks, but if you look at it in Chapter 340, it doesn't have any cracks at all. 75.157.115.154 ( talk) 04:32, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
The article states that Aaroniero Arruruerie was the last of the originsl Espada. While I agree that it said so in the manga at the time, since then Tite Kubo has revealed that Barragan and (in the anime at least) Harribel were also part of the original Espada. Might I suggest that it be changed from " is the last of the first-generation Espadas" to " is one of the last of the first-generation Espadas". 207.216.208.68 ( talk) 02:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed that in the latest BLEACH volume released in English by Viz (I forget which in the 20s it is exactly), they changed the name of Szayel Aporro's Zanpakutou from Fornicarás ("you will fornicate") to La Lujuriosa ("the lecherous" [feminine gender]) ? Apparently, by Viz's wacko-tobacco censorship standards, "lechery" is more wholesome than is "fornication" XD. I've waited since the volume came out to see if anyone noted this localized alteration in this "Hollows" article, but no one has; and I was loath to edit it myself since, whenever I've tried to do so in the past, I've been tarred and feathered and somehow end up destroying the template in use etc etc. So mebbe one of youse guys can make the actual edit :). Adam Restling ( talk) 07:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
It was stated on halibell's summary that her sword when resurrected is a zweihänder. Let me stress this: not even once she is shown using the sword with two hands. I already changed it to 'pata' which is a hindu sword pretty much like her weapon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.87.111.100 ( talk) 05:22, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Tite Kubo released a special promo chapter for the Hell Chapter movie showing Shirrin (the movie's villain) fighting Szayelaporro Grantz and Aaroniero Arruruerie after encountering them in Hell after the latter two were killed by the Soul Reapers. Should it be mentioned that (at least some of) the Espada were banished to Hell after being killed rather than entering the cycle of reincarnation? 207.216.200.81 ( talk) 03:30, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
That is not canon. it was promotional-- 150.212.72.23 ( talk) 06:54, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Edit: I just remembered the perfect way to explain contradictory material to you.In Bleach:The Third Phantom, Seigen is the captain of the 5th division and the captain of the 12th is Urahara. However we know from the manga that the only captain of the fifth division during Urahara's time was Shinji. Obviously you cannot say they were both captain so you have to say one is not canon to the series, obviously being the game. -- God (Pray) 01:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
The second half of Episode 299 (Theatre Opening Commemoration! The Hell Verse・Prologue) shows the events detailed in Imaginary #1: The Unforgivens. I don't know if that means it's canon in the anime, but there you go. Also, the question of canonicity can be applied to the fillers, which never occured in the manga but do in the anime. The Bount arc was canon in the anime because Ichigo confronted an illusion of Jin Kariya while taming his inner Hollow, but where do all the other fillers (films included) fit into the storyline? If they don't and aren't canon, then by that logic, Tia Halibel's past as a Vasto Lorde, which was revealed through an anime-only filler arc, is therefore not canon and shouldn't be included in her section. If the anime fillers are canon then the 8th and 9th Espadas' exile to Hell should be mentioned briefly at the end of their sections. Also, Godisme2, if a Soul Reaper's zanpakuto dies when its wielder does then Tosen would be weaponless because it's stated in the manga that he took his deceased friend's zanpakuto for himself. Canonicity is a topic that should be addressed, but elsewhere. 173.180.89.129 ( talk) 19:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I notice many of the arrancar names are mispelled with the correct spelling in parethesis stating romanized as such in Japan. If I have this straight how the author chooses to spell the name is the correct spelling and viz is actually romanizing. So I am changing it to make it more appropriate. I you wish to discuss by all means post.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.104.4 ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Not that big a deal I just noticed that their rankings all end in o instead of a. Espada is a feminine noun so yeah.
UNMASKED has their names as Tier Harribel and Baraggan Louisenbairn. I have the scans if you want them. Can we change this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockstar90 ( talk • contribs) 22:09, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Kubo confirmed Grimmjow's offpanel death in an interview at Jump Fiesta and in the second character book. 207.216.197.154 ( talk) 12:23, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
what about yammy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.143.138 ( talk) 20:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
No consensus to move and no consensus to override the previous move request. Vegaswikian ( talk) 21:22, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
List of Hollows in Bleach → List of Hollow in Bleach – The plural for Hollow is Hollow. This is showcased several times in the manga. Like many spanish words, the plural is the same as the singular. 184.56.245.182 ( talk) 02:00, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 |
Following the guidelines laid out in WP:LEAD/the example of various featured lists, I'm trying to expand the lead. Something like this is a possible structure:
If anybody has suggestions on what to include/leave out, add them here, or, of course, directly to the article. Suki Dakara 02:04, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Some external links I've managed to find that I'll put here: not all of them are that great, but they're a start. Please incorporate into the article + the reception section if possible. And of course, add more if/when you find them.
This probably has been brought up but since I can't find any mention of it, I'll set up discussion here. Basically, since the Espada sections are listed in order of rank, shouldn't we move Yammy up above Starrk? Whilst Yammy does say in that chapter (Ch. 354 in Shounen Jump) that his rank changes when he releases, he also says the Espada rankings go from 0 to 9, not 1 to 10. Therefore, it seems fairly clear that Yammy comes first. Is there a reason this change hasn't already been implemented? -- Suki Dakara 22:06, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Of the reception info linked a few posts above, a lot seems geared towards Grimmjow. Thoughts on reviving the old Grimmjow page and adding this reception stuff to it? 207.80.142.5 ( talk) 15:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, she was sliced by Aizan, but so was Ichigo when Aizan betrayed Soul Society, and Koga (the Bount) was sliced by Hitsugaya, AND Ichinose by Zaraki, and they were all presumed dead but survived. Heck, Ichigo survived getting 3/4 of his chest removed by Ulquiorra and Grimmjow's still alive ater being beaten up by Ichigo and Nnoitra, so Tia might not be dead. 142.26.194.190 ( talk) 14:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Some notes on Starrk from corrections made to the entry.
- Starrk and Lylynette are one being. Lylynette is not a fracción.
- Starrk was not a Menos at the time of meeting Aizen.
- Starrk and Lylynette were both Arrancars before meeting Aizen. This is visually clear in chapter 475.
- Starrk and Lylynette do not remember what the hollow they split from was called or which of them (if either) it resembled.
I dont think any of these can seriously be disputed based on 473-475.
174.46.28.58 ( talk) 21:13, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
The reason I'm asking is because while describing the vasto lordes Hitsugaya says they're roughly human-sized and far more powerful than an adjuchas. Barragan (and Ichigo's new Hollow form for that matter) both fit that description. Additionally, both their masks (Barragan's "skull" and Hollow Ichigo's mask) cover their entire heads. 142.26.194.190 ( talk) 20:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Should we included Lilynette as a Separate from Starrk or leave them together, because Starrk says "We are the Primera Espada, Coyote Starrk and Lilynette Gingerback, and this is our power." on page 15 of chapter 373. Which might mean Lilynette is also an Espada.
If the order of the espada is strongest to weakest; why is Yammy, who is the strongest of the espada, below Starrk, the second strongest? 86.138.98.60 ( talk) 10:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
this is the list of hollows in bleach, but the way the article is headed, there seems to be a list of arrancars only or arrancars who were once introduced as hollows. I think the other section shouldn't say "The following are those arrancar that have never received a position as an Espada." Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Also the overview explains a little more on soul reaper than Hollows. Should those tiny trivial pieces be removed? Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:27, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I know it's a little early to be bringing this up, possibly 1-2 volumes early by American/English releases, but with Ilfort's last name being translated as Grantz, and them being identified as brothers. Would it be safe to say it's Szayel Aporro Grantz, or is that a little too WP:OR ? DaisukeVulgar ( talk) 18:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
since Nel was shown as a weakling arrancar more than espada number 3, we should put her in "other" rather than "espada" section. right? Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Ok, then i guess Nel can be the exception then. Bread Ninja ( talk) 18:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Also since Nel tu is more commonly known as "nel tu" shouldn't we change her name title? Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:36, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
She has lost the title of Espada though. Bread Ninja ( talk) 19:00, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
::::As I've said before, the Other section, as it states is for "those arrancar that have never received a position as an Espada". There is really no reason to argue against her being in the Espada section.
DaisukeVulgar (
talk)
20:13, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Edit: She was Still Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck as an Espada, that is why she's shown as that within the section. It says she's more commonly known as 'Nel Tu' any way, so I think its fine. DaisukeVulgar ( talk) 20:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
She was introduced as Nel Tu not Neliel Tu Odelschwanck. it was later revealed that she "was" a former espada (number 3)and her full name. Seeing as how haribel is the new espada number 3 it's not really correct to leave Nel tu as an espada while someone else also has the same title. not only that but it appears that only one can hold the title of espada seeing as there are privaron espadas Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Luppi was introduced as an espada. Nel wasn't. anyways leave it the way you want. but i feel the Other section being far too specific making the article more about "Espadas and Fraccion" rather than hollows in general. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:14, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I fear some or all Spanish translations is what making the article in an in-universe style due to no sources or because of Original Research. We should try to find sources for the spanish translations and even the Japanese ones for the chapters that ahve yet to be in english. Bread Ninja ( talk) 19:00, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
I noticed they had already changed it on the Bleach Wikia, but didn't want to change it without putting it up in the discussion. Afraid I don't know the actual source Its from the 10th official gum card set, so its official, right?
[14]. Are we to change it to Baraggan, or not?
DaisukeVulgar (
talk)
01:36, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
The psychotic Zanpakutou from the latest anime filler hollowfied, so that makes him a hollow now, so shouldn't he be mentioned in the "Other" section? And shouldn't Hollow Ichigo be at least mentioned in the article, 'cause he's a Hollow as well. He's a major antagonist of the series, after all. It seems to me that this article may as well be retitled Arrancar, 'cause that's all that's in it. What about Orihime's big brother? That bat-serial killer hollow? Come to think of it, what happened to them? Wouldn't Orihime's brother be in Soul Society? (The gates of Hell gimmick used on the bat hollow was great, but it looks to be a one-time thing.) Anyways, this article needs a few more Hollows, not just Arrancar. 75.157.110.77 ( talk) 03:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
please show me where it was shown that grimmjow used to be Arrancar 12 before becoming an Espada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.4.107.52 ( talk) 21:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Don't Hollows had Creation and Conception? Didn't Title Kubo said anything about them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cococrash11 ( talk • contribs) 19:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 05:45, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
List of hollows in Bleach → List of Hollows in Bleach — Since "Hollow" is capitalized in the context of this article, it would be fitting to capitalize it in the page name. Spindori ( talk) 18:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
If you look at his helmet/mask, it changes between when he is introduced and his death. On the last page of Chapter 190, his hemelt is covered in cracks, but if you look at it in Chapter 340, it doesn't have any cracks at all. 75.157.115.154 ( talk) 04:32, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
The article states that Aaroniero Arruruerie was the last of the originsl Espada. While I agree that it said so in the manga at the time, since then Tite Kubo has revealed that Barragan and (in the anime at least) Harribel were also part of the original Espada. Might I suggest that it be changed from " is the last of the first-generation Espadas" to " is one of the last of the first-generation Espadas". 207.216.208.68 ( talk) 02:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed that in the latest BLEACH volume released in English by Viz (I forget which in the 20s it is exactly), they changed the name of Szayel Aporro's Zanpakutou from Fornicarás ("you will fornicate") to La Lujuriosa ("the lecherous" [feminine gender]) ? Apparently, by Viz's wacko-tobacco censorship standards, "lechery" is more wholesome than is "fornication" XD. I've waited since the volume came out to see if anyone noted this localized alteration in this "Hollows" article, but no one has; and I was loath to edit it myself since, whenever I've tried to do so in the past, I've been tarred and feathered and somehow end up destroying the template in use etc etc. So mebbe one of youse guys can make the actual edit :). Adam Restling ( talk) 07:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
It was stated on halibell's summary that her sword when resurrected is a zweihänder. Let me stress this: not even once she is shown using the sword with two hands. I already changed it to 'pata' which is a hindu sword pretty much like her weapon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.87.111.100 ( talk) 05:22, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Tite Kubo released a special promo chapter for the Hell Chapter movie showing Shirrin (the movie's villain) fighting Szayelaporro Grantz and Aaroniero Arruruerie after encountering them in Hell after the latter two were killed by the Soul Reapers. Should it be mentioned that (at least some of) the Espada were banished to Hell after being killed rather than entering the cycle of reincarnation? 207.216.200.81 ( talk) 03:30, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
That is not canon. it was promotional-- 150.212.72.23 ( talk) 06:54, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Edit: I just remembered the perfect way to explain contradictory material to you.In Bleach:The Third Phantom, Seigen is the captain of the 5th division and the captain of the 12th is Urahara. However we know from the manga that the only captain of the fifth division during Urahara's time was Shinji. Obviously you cannot say they were both captain so you have to say one is not canon to the series, obviously being the game. -- God (Pray) 01:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
The second half of Episode 299 (Theatre Opening Commemoration! The Hell Verse・Prologue) shows the events detailed in Imaginary #1: The Unforgivens. I don't know if that means it's canon in the anime, but there you go. Also, the question of canonicity can be applied to the fillers, which never occured in the manga but do in the anime. The Bount arc was canon in the anime because Ichigo confronted an illusion of Jin Kariya while taming his inner Hollow, but where do all the other fillers (films included) fit into the storyline? If they don't and aren't canon, then by that logic, Tia Halibel's past as a Vasto Lorde, which was revealed through an anime-only filler arc, is therefore not canon and shouldn't be included in her section. If the anime fillers are canon then the 8th and 9th Espadas' exile to Hell should be mentioned briefly at the end of their sections. Also, Godisme2, if a Soul Reaper's zanpakuto dies when its wielder does then Tosen would be weaponless because it's stated in the manga that he took his deceased friend's zanpakuto for himself. Canonicity is a topic that should be addressed, but elsewhere. 173.180.89.129 ( talk) 19:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I notice many of the arrancar names are mispelled with the correct spelling in parethesis stating romanized as such in Japan. If I have this straight how the author chooses to spell the name is the correct spelling and viz is actually romanizing. So I am changing it to make it more appropriate. I you wish to discuss by all means post.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.104.4 ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Not that big a deal I just noticed that their rankings all end in o instead of a. Espada is a feminine noun so yeah.
UNMASKED has their names as Tier Harribel and Baraggan Louisenbairn. I have the scans if you want them. Can we change this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockstar90 ( talk • contribs) 22:09, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Kubo confirmed Grimmjow's offpanel death in an interview at Jump Fiesta and in the second character book. 207.216.197.154 ( talk) 12:23, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
what about yammy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.143.138 ( talk) 20:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
No consensus to move and no consensus to override the previous move request. Vegaswikian ( talk) 21:22, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
List of Hollows in Bleach → List of Hollow in Bleach – The plural for Hollow is Hollow. This is showcased several times in the manga. Like many spanish words, the plural is the same as the singular. 184.56.245.182 ( talk) 02:00, 5 June 2011 (UTC)