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We already know almost all of them.. Grimmjow is a known adjuchas, and no Vasto Lordes have been made yet (that we have been shown at least) which means that Ulquiorra and Margera are also adjuchas. Yammy and Luppi could be very weak adjuchas (Grimmjow took down Luppi rather easily, and Ulquiorra was able to take down Yammy quickly also. Aaroniro stated that he was the only gillian among the espada). All the Arrancar that have been defeated were gillian rank, except for Grandfisher and the arrancars that took on Uryu (chapter 213, page 19). Iceringer and Demora havn't been discussed yet either, although they were most likely gillian also.
I think it was not Aizen who turn Grand Fisher into an arrankar. At the end of vol 3, it seems other arrankar do that.
The purpose for the existance of this article is seperate from that of Hollow (Bleach). This page is a fork, due to excessive length, from Characters in Bleach series (hence the name formulation). -- tjstrf 15:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Not only is this page getting stupidley long, but its also messy and difficult to read. So what if some of the Espada are dead? They should still have their own pages since they have pretty big roles. They are no different to the lieutenants having individual pages (with even less info.) Jwilso72 13:42, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Was there any indication that Nell was a female? I think I have missed it. Please elaborate. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 00:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
It was confirmed again in chapter 253 where Dordonii refered to her as a female-- 66.231.36.19 07:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Speaking of Nell once more, i think that its pretty much been confirmed that she will be a main character in the current arc, so hows about we make her own entry/page?-- 66.231.36.47 06:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Bleach7 also directly clarified it in their release. Nell gets an article once she actually does something, not now when we merely predict she'll do something. -- tjstrf talk 07:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Why is the article about Nell below "Espada", when she's a former (aka Privaron) Espada? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.167.46.125 ( talk) 14:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Unless Nell resumes her role as an Espada at some point, she shouldn't be listed under the Espada heading at all. Remember, fiction is in the eternal present tense. You go under that heading only if you are an active Espada at some point in the series timeline, and then you stay in the listing forever. Luppi dying doesn't change that he is a member, and similarly if Grimmjow were to leave the Espada he would still be listed under the heading, just with a (defected) after his name. -- tjstrf talk 00:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
In Dordonii's cover his name is actually stated as Dordonie, shou;dn't this change be made? —The preceding - Raf
Why is the Exequias section under Former Espada? I highly doubt everyone one of them was part of the Espada. They seem more like a group of less powerful Arrancar that were put into a group as an assassination squad. Also, was it confirmed that Jovenzuelo is the actual name of the bull-head Exequias leader? I just assumed Dordonii was name-calling like he does with Ichigo (niño). Kangarugh22 13:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I forgot to mention this. If you look at the kanji used in Jovenzuelo (小僧共), its normal Japanese pronunciation would be "kozou domo." The word "kozou" means youngster while the "domo" makes the word plural. I find it hard to believe that this would be someone's name. I really think Dordonii was referring to the group of them, not addressing the leader personally. I may be wrong, though. Anyway, I'll add the kanji to the name in the article. Kangarugh22 19:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
About him - he seems to be described here twice - both in 1) Known hollows and in 2.5) Others. Is it done on purpose?
check the manga in chapter 209. if you can make out the silhouettes you can find out where each of the espada's hollow holes are b/c there's a seen where the arrancar is describing how the espada are ranked and there is an image of all the espada in shadows. (note: grimmjow is front and center, ulquiorra is behind him to the left) 66.222.214.93 08:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I have just now noticed that Il Forte's name is Iiruforuto, which would probably be better written as Ilfort. That is unless the Spanish forte is pronounced like the English fort. If not, then the name should be changed to Il Fort or Ilfort. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 12:56, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I really wish people wouldn't do that. I know I was the one to add Gantenbein before the chapter came out, but just a simple name isn't a spoiler. I just looked today and saw some spoiler about the poleface Espada looking like Shiba Kaien. I really would've like to see that for myself when the chapter came out tomorrow/Friday. Thanks. Kangarugh22 21:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
It seems the intention might be Arnilo Arleri (アーロニーロ アルルエリ, Āronīro Arurueri).
Doing some Google searches, it appears that Arnilo and Arleri are names of some kind. Though, I'm getting more Italian matches than Spanish, for some reason. I don't know who found these names, but converting them into katakana does give us a nearly perfect match.
There is no problem with Arleri:
Arnilo is slightly troublesome:
I guess that the extra ro (ロ) was added in the middle to emphasize the otherwise minimal ar sound. – Gunslinger47 06:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, Mr. Kubo has blessed us yet again with a gender-confused arrancar. I don't suppose anybody can confirm his/her gender?
Didn't he remove his mask like ichigo has done many times during the series and the Vizards. He also was aready a Shinigami mixed witha hollow but remains mostly dominate over his hollow similar to ichigo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.215.27.134 ( talk) 03:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC).
actually it DOES matter, look at the privaron espada they became arrancar by non-aizen assisted methods and were vastly inferior to the ones created by aizen. how he got his powers matters in this case because it makes him totally unlike a vizard, and yet totally unlike an arrancar as well...like i said, it pretty well makes him his own species. regardless he's part of aizens arrancar army, he was an attempt to make an arrancar; so unless they suddenly say he is not an arracar...he's a fucking arrancar lol, accept it. -- Grimjaw 00:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
In the pic with all espada there's a moustache man where is he in the pic of espada meeting. Seth103
What chapter does he appear in Seth103
We should have pic of lolly and menoly.
Seth103
What chapter?
If it turns out that the info I've posted on Zaer-Apollo is true (his last name is Grantz & his # is 8), then I'd appreciate more respect in the future. Just because you haven't seen any info on the new chapter doesn't mean I haven't. You don't know my sources, so please be more professional when questioning my credibility. Also :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Punchface ( talk • contribs).
i see your point, but i'd rather not give out my sources (because then they wouldn't be "my" sources anymore lol) yet thats the only way i can confirm my info. the reason to assume i'm correct is within my accurate past information, i'll only act "arrogant" when my informatrion is deleted. Wikipedia is about sharing accurate information, which is what i'm doing, even if others can't confirm it until later. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Punchface ( talk • contribs).
"Gin comments on Luppi during his conversation with Ulquiorra, expressing his sorrow over Luppi's death (they apparently got along well.)"
uhh...did I miss something? I scanned my files and didn't see this. -- Chemicalist 13:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Can you please put back the pic with Luppi not using his sword (I can't spell the name of that blasted thing). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.98.113 ( talk) 08:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
When I read chapter 244 page 15 where we first see all of the Espada at once, I tried to determine their ranking in the group by looking at where they sat around the table. At the time we knew that Yammy was number 10 and Grimmjow was number 6. I thought that since Yammy was the farest on the right side of the table and Grimmjow was the closet on the right side, I determine that the right side was 10 through 6 and the left side was 5 to 1. But then Arroniro appeared and said he was number 9 and disproved my theory since in my theory he would have been number 5 since he was the farest on the left side. But now in chapter 264 Zaera-Polo Grantz saids he is number 8 which follows my theory since he was sitting in the middle of Yammy and Grimmjow and 8 is in the middle of 10 and 6. So am I crazy or could Arroniro be actually number 5 and not number 9? -- Omimon 25 February 2007
I was wondering if it was possible that he wears that mask to prevent people to see his true face. And then when he takes the mask off, he takes the form of a person that the person thinks of dearly. Then somehow he uses those memories to shape his form, Possible? ( ReshenKusaga 04:33, 1 March 2007 (UTC))
Hello,I've seen an error in this section. The traslation of phoenix to spanish is Fénix, not Fenice. I've looked in the dictionary and the word Fenice in spanish means "Fenicio", (I don´t know the traslation to English but it is a man who belongs to a civilization of the Mediterrean sea). However, it is true that the word comes of the latin phoenix. I don't know, how they have written the word in Japan, so I am not going to change the word. (Mardolo on 25 February 2007 21:45)
Exactly where did the 'pre-arrancar' picture come from? I don't remember seeing it in the anime. MoChan 01:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Did iceringer and demora appear before lolly and menoly.
im not good at wording it into his part but in B:HTS4(check out the website, he's under partner characters) his hair is half black and half blonde, instead of being half red and half black, they messed up isnt really a good way of saying it i think, but im not good with words so......thanks, lol Maigokunshu 07:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
So...
I go with Lilinett (double T 'cause of the little tsu before To) and Halibell, but no idea to SuTa-Ku... I don't like Stark 'cause is so... english! Ok, Yammy too. Maybe Staaq? - Access Timeco 20:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Basically, the header says it all. Whatever you want to call "Halibell" "Stark" or "Lilinet" they definitely need their own pages now. I do have somewhat of an issue with the way in which they appear to be "ranked" on this page, though, how does anyone know they are seeming lower than noitora but higher than grimmjaw? Lacking Lack 06:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible that Lilinette's design is based off of Midna from The Legend of Zelda? Her mask seems to be very close in, what with the one eye, and the horns, and her clothing has the same pattern as Midna's fur. Also their personalities seem a bit close. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.150.236.222 ( talk) 19:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC).
In the page for the Akatsuki of Naruto, the as-yet unnamed Akatsuki members both have short articles. On the same token, I was wondering if the two unnamed Espada should get a mention on this page. While we know little about either, there's about the same amount of data available for at least one of the aforementioned Akatsuki, so I don't see why they can't at least get a mention. It would, at the least, lend some completeness to the grouping. Thoughts? -- SilverBelial 05:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
we need something to put as a heading...what do u suggest? "that one guy with the thing". and "the black one"? -- Grimjaw 06:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
i have already said on other talk pages whenever we see a zanpakuto i'd make articles for each espada. do we really need to rush it when we know nothing about them. seriously old espadas article right here: he's old he looks like this....thats all we got its like a paragraph at best, and i dragged out il forte into a whole article. same with the big spikey headed dude. just chill a bit, i'm sure we're gonna see something out of em soon enough. its not like they aren't gonna get articles if we don't rush them out. everyone has pretty much already decided they will all get articles, they even gave luppi one again. -- Grimjaw 07:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
It currently says in his section that when he returned to Hueco Mundo, that his body was analyzed and somehow Kaien got revived and retook control of the body before being consumed by #9 (You know who he is, don't wanna spell it out until its spelling is confirmed somewhere). But since the only confirmation we have of that is #9's assertion of it while wearing Kaien's face, shouldn't that be considered only as part of #9's ploy to lower Rukia's guard? -- Seraphchoir 13:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Should we reorder the Numeros now that we know how the attendant positions work? They're called Flación, by the way. I've already added the info to Lilinette and Tesla's info and have change a little for Lumina and Verona. We now know, though that those two fatties are actually regular hollow Arrancar that ZP modified beforehand. So... should they go with the Numeros or just stay in Hollows even though they really aren't? Well, they aren't Gillians like the Numeros are... so I don't know where to put them now. Kangarugh22 18:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Is there actually any evidence that Grimmjow's team are actually his fraccións (fracción, fracciónes)? -- Pentasyllabic 23:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
He speaks twice; once to respond to Matsumoto's question, and again when he realized Matsumoto was still alive.
Should we add the arrancar (the one with all the clones) that was introduced in the recent filler episodes. I forgot what his name was exactly.
D.Roy, Shawlong, etc. They said they are Adjuchas in Chapter 285, i thot they we're gillian tho... They said they were predestined to only be Adjuchas not heightened Gillian ( 24.205.190.225 06:37, 28 July 2007 (UTC))
So Ilforte was an adjuchas-class menos before becoming an arrancar, and Szayel Aporro Grantz said he was a lower class of menos than his before becoming an arrancar. Does it means that Szayel was a Vastolorde? He do look very humanoid.
I think we shoul restore the page about Nell, what do you think?
Basically, do we think he's worth adding? On the one hand, he's a filler character, but he does seem to have a reasonable degree of weight in the story to at least get a mention. And if so, should he be placed under the Numeros category? Other? - SilverBelial 00:36, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Episode 137 will be the last filler, so can anyone get an anime picture of Luppi and Margera when 138 and 139 is out? - Hartebeest
I deleted the small article about the Exequias Leader, because he doesn't have a name. If he deserve and article, then the Old Man and Black Guy deserve one too, I'm surprised that no one had noticed this, especially Someguy0830 and Sephiroth BCR, who almost classified everything change I made unconstructive, including the article about the 2 unnamed Espadas. If you wish to restore it, post here or on my talk page first.
I just checked ANN and it seems the two arrancarr with Pratos are named Menic and Arcdagger..but I can't tell which one is which... RedEyesMetal 18:57, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
While I feel "the filler Arrancar" deserves to be mentioned, there's a difference between this case and the one with the Exequias leader. With the Exequias leader, there's only one and you can clearly differentiate him from the rest of the Exequias; with unamed arrancar, however, it's not as easy to pull off such a thing. There are more than one filler arrancar, and a hell of a lot more unamed arrancar in general. I won't remove him for now, and instead try and add on to his descrition.
As for the minor hollows, we shouldn't be adding them to the list solely because they have a name. Hexapodus has one sentence to his decription (exclduing the note about his purifaction), and the only real reason I can think of as to why he's on the list is because he has a name. According to Wikipedia:Notability, articles should cover notable information, not providing excessive fan service. // DecaimientoPoético 17:13, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
It isn't important to include that a character is deceased while listing them because it contains spoilers. You can say that they died in their own page, but it can be ruined for people like me who are just looking up their names. Not everyone reads the manga. 209.91.61.223 18:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
so isn't this a characterlist? List_of_extraterrestrials_in_Dragon_Ball do you see any deceased tags on them? no because the solely purpose of pages like these are to give information about the characters. it's not a "which-persons-are-deceased-and-which-not"-page. other examples List_of_minor_characters_in_One_Piece and List_of_followers_of_the_Earl_of_Millennium. in fact almost all of the anime/manga character pages don't have those deceased tags to avoid matters like i described above. you're obviously right about the fact that wikipedia isn't a democracy. but we _are_ the ones with better arguments. you just fail to see that there are problems attached to those deceased -tags. Twsl 10:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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Why has Yammy's picture been removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.220.116 ( talk) 13:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Why do some of the espada have their own page but other's don't? I know that Arorino (I don't have the page open, excuse the spelling) used to have his own page, but now he doesn't. I can understand the espada that have only been very briefly shown, but I think a major character that was involved with [Spoiler]'s possible death deserves his own page. SoulReaverDan 23:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Why is the basis for having their own page based on how active they are in the story valid when not everyone is at the same place in the story. Furthermore if they are at the place in the story where they are prevalent, they would have a greater knowledge of the character than if they where further back in the story. The reasoning for getting their own page needs some work. -- 130.156.138.46 ( talk) 22:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Should we add a new image of Luppi from the anime? I think we should but tell me your opinion.
Thanks for your response —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.19.12.96 ( talk) 21:45, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
It's me again, I think que should add a new image of Wonderwice From the anime too. 193.153.197.193 ( talk)
i tought Arturo Plateado name was Altoro Plateado so wich is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Revan376 ( talk • contribs) 14:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I just saw the cover of the new chapter. Before I go on a renaming rampage can anyone verify if this is the real deal? Twsl 07:00, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
It's still Nell; the second L is attached to the bottom of the N. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.70.34 ( talk) 18:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC) Edit: I just changed it back to Nell. PLEASE don't revert it, because that is how her name is spelled. Or at least wait until the chapter shows up.
Is it possible we could switch back to the old one? Because that new image looks really...weird. Either that, or we can have to images of her child form and her adult from combined into one image. see Grand Fisher's image and you know what I'm talking about.. RedEyesMetal 11:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
While I was reading the previous topic, I was wondering, is there ever decided to use only released or only non-released pictures to illustrate the members of the Espada? Somebody recently changed the picture of Luppi to a released version. I actually think that the non-released version of the Espada can hold some relevance as well. In Luppi's case he doesn't change that much, but (for example) Aaroniro does. The current article consists of released/non-released arrancar mixed together (well actually Luppi is the only one in a released state). Question 1: could we change that to just one type for the consistency? Question 2: Could we "merge" two pictures together like the Grandfisher picture? I'd prefer a merge. Of course this doesn't apply for all the arrancar, but just the Espada that have an own picture at the moment. The "gillian 5" etc. should be left alone since they're minor characters. I'd like to hear your thoughts please =) Twsl 15:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Even though the scantilation is probably one day away, you should still not post speculation. Nell does not have a zanpakuto in that picture, and we don't know what number she was. 75.0.189.185 23:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Regardless of how she was made Nel is clearly no longer an Espada. She is even fighting against Aizen. I propose she be moved to 'Other'.
I can't help but think, given how much time has been spent on her of late, that Nell deserves her own page---at least, if Ulquiorra and Grimmjow do. Corbmobile 23:34, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Wait until the end of her fight with Nnoitra, then ask again.
unsigned comment added by 71.243.92.78 ( talk) 01:27, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I dunno...I think she has enough "character" to herself already that merits her own page. But, thats my opinion anyways. —Preceding
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I agree she has much information for a page of her own. ( Speaker180 18:09, 14 October 2007 (UTC))
We know alot more about her than we do some of the other guys, like Nnoitra. That alone deserves a page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.24.125 ( talk) 02:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Strictly speaking, virtually none of the Bleach characters "deserve" their own pages due to failure of the WP:NOTABILITY guidelines. – Gunslinger47 02:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, if we did that the pages of intros would be way too long. Anyways, I think next chapter would be perfect for her page. More info on the Zanpaktou, her released form and description of appearance and whatnot. And if it isn't enough you could go alittle more in depth with the information. Raf 09:37, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to add an image of adult Nel but as there are no official colored images I wanted to add an image like shown below. Is it not allowed to use colored images that resembles the same colors as the original? Or are we only allowed to use strictly official colored images? Is there some kind of policy regarding this? Thanks =) Twsl 10:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
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We already know almost all of them.. Grimmjow is a known adjuchas, and no Vasto Lordes have been made yet (that we have been shown at least) which means that Ulquiorra and Margera are also adjuchas. Yammy and Luppi could be very weak adjuchas (Grimmjow took down Luppi rather easily, and Ulquiorra was able to take down Yammy quickly also. Aaroniro stated that he was the only gillian among the espada). All the Arrancar that have been defeated were gillian rank, except for Grandfisher and the arrancars that took on Uryu (chapter 213, page 19). Iceringer and Demora havn't been discussed yet either, although they were most likely gillian also.
I think it was not Aizen who turn Grand Fisher into an arrankar. At the end of vol 3, it seems other arrankar do that.
The purpose for the existance of this article is seperate from that of Hollow (Bleach). This page is a fork, due to excessive length, from Characters in Bleach series (hence the name formulation). -- tjstrf 15:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Not only is this page getting stupidley long, but its also messy and difficult to read. So what if some of the Espada are dead? They should still have their own pages since they have pretty big roles. They are no different to the lieutenants having individual pages (with even less info.) Jwilso72 13:42, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Was there any indication that Nell was a female? I think I have missed it. Please elaborate. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 00:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
It was confirmed again in chapter 253 where Dordonii refered to her as a female-- 66.231.36.19 07:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Speaking of Nell once more, i think that its pretty much been confirmed that she will be a main character in the current arc, so hows about we make her own entry/page?-- 66.231.36.47 06:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Bleach7 also directly clarified it in their release. Nell gets an article once she actually does something, not now when we merely predict she'll do something. -- tjstrf talk 07:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Why is the article about Nell below "Espada", when she's a former (aka Privaron) Espada? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.167.46.125 ( talk) 14:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Unless Nell resumes her role as an Espada at some point, she shouldn't be listed under the Espada heading at all. Remember, fiction is in the eternal present tense. You go under that heading only if you are an active Espada at some point in the series timeline, and then you stay in the listing forever. Luppi dying doesn't change that he is a member, and similarly if Grimmjow were to leave the Espada he would still be listed under the heading, just with a (defected) after his name. -- tjstrf talk 00:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
In Dordonii's cover his name is actually stated as Dordonie, shou;dn't this change be made? —The preceding - Raf
Why is the Exequias section under Former Espada? I highly doubt everyone one of them was part of the Espada. They seem more like a group of less powerful Arrancar that were put into a group as an assassination squad. Also, was it confirmed that Jovenzuelo is the actual name of the bull-head Exequias leader? I just assumed Dordonii was name-calling like he does with Ichigo (niño). Kangarugh22 13:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I forgot to mention this. If you look at the kanji used in Jovenzuelo (小僧共), its normal Japanese pronunciation would be "kozou domo." The word "kozou" means youngster while the "domo" makes the word plural. I find it hard to believe that this would be someone's name. I really think Dordonii was referring to the group of them, not addressing the leader personally. I may be wrong, though. Anyway, I'll add the kanji to the name in the article. Kangarugh22 19:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
About him - he seems to be described here twice - both in 1) Known hollows and in 2.5) Others. Is it done on purpose?
check the manga in chapter 209. if you can make out the silhouettes you can find out where each of the espada's hollow holes are b/c there's a seen where the arrancar is describing how the espada are ranked and there is an image of all the espada in shadows. (note: grimmjow is front and center, ulquiorra is behind him to the left) 66.222.214.93 08:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I have just now noticed that Il Forte's name is Iiruforuto, which would probably be better written as Ilfort. That is unless the Spanish forte is pronounced like the English fort. If not, then the name should be changed to Il Fort or Ilfort. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 12:56, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I really wish people wouldn't do that. I know I was the one to add Gantenbein before the chapter came out, but just a simple name isn't a spoiler. I just looked today and saw some spoiler about the poleface Espada looking like Shiba Kaien. I really would've like to see that for myself when the chapter came out tomorrow/Friday. Thanks. Kangarugh22 21:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
It seems the intention might be Arnilo Arleri (アーロニーロ アルルエリ, Āronīro Arurueri).
Doing some Google searches, it appears that Arnilo and Arleri are names of some kind. Though, I'm getting more Italian matches than Spanish, for some reason. I don't know who found these names, but converting them into katakana does give us a nearly perfect match.
There is no problem with Arleri:
Arnilo is slightly troublesome:
I guess that the extra ro (ロ) was added in the middle to emphasize the otherwise minimal ar sound. – Gunslinger47 06:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, Mr. Kubo has blessed us yet again with a gender-confused arrancar. I don't suppose anybody can confirm his/her gender?
Didn't he remove his mask like ichigo has done many times during the series and the Vizards. He also was aready a Shinigami mixed witha hollow but remains mostly dominate over his hollow similar to ichigo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.215.27.134 ( talk) 03:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC).
actually it DOES matter, look at the privaron espada they became arrancar by non-aizen assisted methods and were vastly inferior to the ones created by aizen. how he got his powers matters in this case because it makes him totally unlike a vizard, and yet totally unlike an arrancar as well...like i said, it pretty well makes him his own species. regardless he's part of aizens arrancar army, he was an attempt to make an arrancar; so unless they suddenly say he is not an arracar...he's a fucking arrancar lol, accept it. -- Grimjaw 00:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
In the pic with all espada there's a moustache man where is he in the pic of espada meeting. Seth103
What chapter does he appear in Seth103
We should have pic of lolly and menoly.
Seth103
What chapter?
If it turns out that the info I've posted on Zaer-Apollo is true (his last name is Grantz & his # is 8), then I'd appreciate more respect in the future. Just because you haven't seen any info on the new chapter doesn't mean I haven't. You don't know my sources, so please be more professional when questioning my credibility. Also :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Punchface ( talk • contribs).
i see your point, but i'd rather not give out my sources (because then they wouldn't be "my" sources anymore lol) yet thats the only way i can confirm my info. the reason to assume i'm correct is within my accurate past information, i'll only act "arrogant" when my informatrion is deleted. Wikipedia is about sharing accurate information, which is what i'm doing, even if others can't confirm it until later. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Punchface ( talk • contribs).
"Gin comments on Luppi during his conversation with Ulquiorra, expressing his sorrow over Luppi's death (they apparently got along well.)"
uhh...did I miss something? I scanned my files and didn't see this. -- Chemicalist 13:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Can you please put back the pic with Luppi not using his sword (I can't spell the name of that blasted thing). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.98.113 ( talk) 08:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
When I read chapter 244 page 15 where we first see all of the Espada at once, I tried to determine their ranking in the group by looking at where they sat around the table. At the time we knew that Yammy was number 10 and Grimmjow was number 6. I thought that since Yammy was the farest on the right side of the table and Grimmjow was the closet on the right side, I determine that the right side was 10 through 6 and the left side was 5 to 1. But then Arroniro appeared and said he was number 9 and disproved my theory since in my theory he would have been number 5 since he was the farest on the left side. But now in chapter 264 Zaera-Polo Grantz saids he is number 8 which follows my theory since he was sitting in the middle of Yammy and Grimmjow and 8 is in the middle of 10 and 6. So am I crazy or could Arroniro be actually number 5 and not number 9? -- Omimon 25 February 2007
I was wondering if it was possible that he wears that mask to prevent people to see his true face. And then when he takes the mask off, he takes the form of a person that the person thinks of dearly. Then somehow he uses those memories to shape his form, Possible? ( ReshenKusaga 04:33, 1 March 2007 (UTC))
Hello,I've seen an error in this section. The traslation of phoenix to spanish is Fénix, not Fenice. I've looked in the dictionary and the word Fenice in spanish means "Fenicio", (I don´t know the traslation to English but it is a man who belongs to a civilization of the Mediterrean sea). However, it is true that the word comes of the latin phoenix. I don't know, how they have written the word in Japan, so I am not going to change the word. (Mardolo on 25 February 2007 21:45)
Exactly where did the 'pre-arrancar' picture come from? I don't remember seeing it in the anime. MoChan 01:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Did iceringer and demora appear before lolly and menoly.
im not good at wording it into his part but in B:HTS4(check out the website, he's under partner characters) his hair is half black and half blonde, instead of being half red and half black, they messed up isnt really a good way of saying it i think, but im not good with words so......thanks, lol Maigokunshu 07:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
So...
I go with Lilinett (double T 'cause of the little tsu before To) and Halibell, but no idea to SuTa-Ku... I don't like Stark 'cause is so... english! Ok, Yammy too. Maybe Staaq? - Access Timeco 20:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Basically, the header says it all. Whatever you want to call "Halibell" "Stark" or "Lilinet" they definitely need their own pages now. I do have somewhat of an issue with the way in which they appear to be "ranked" on this page, though, how does anyone know they are seeming lower than noitora but higher than grimmjaw? Lacking Lack 06:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible that Lilinette's design is based off of Midna from The Legend of Zelda? Her mask seems to be very close in, what with the one eye, and the horns, and her clothing has the same pattern as Midna's fur. Also their personalities seem a bit close. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.150.236.222 ( talk) 19:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC).
In the page for the Akatsuki of Naruto, the as-yet unnamed Akatsuki members both have short articles. On the same token, I was wondering if the two unnamed Espada should get a mention on this page. While we know little about either, there's about the same amount of data available for at least one of the aforementioned Akatsuki, so I don't see why they can't at least get a mention. It would, at the least, lend some completeness to the grouping. Thoughts? -- SilverBelial 05:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
we need something to put as a heading...what do u suggest? "that one guy with the thing". and "the black one"? -- Grimjaw 06:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
i have already said on other talk pages whenever we see a zanpakuto i'd make articles for each espada. do we really need to rush it when we know nothing about them. seriously old espadas article right here: he's old he looks like this....thats all we got its like a paragraph at best, and i dragged out il forte into a whole article. same with the big spikey headed dude. just chill a bit, i'm sure we're gonna see something out of em soon enough. its not like they aren't gonna get articles if we don't rush them out. everyone has pretty much already decided they will all get articles, they even gave luppi one again. -- Grimjaw 07:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
It currently says in his section that when he returned to Hueco Mundo, that his body was analyzed and somehow Kaien got revived and retook control of the body before being consumed by #9 (You know who he is, don't wanna spell it out until its spelling is confirmed somewhere). But since the only confirmation we have of that is #9's assertion of it while wearing Kaien's face, shouldn't that be considered only as part of #9's ploy to lower Rukia's guard? -- Seraphchoir 13:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Should we reorder the Numeros now that we know how the attendant positions work? They're called Flación, by the way. I've already added the info to Lilinette and Tesla's info and have change a little for Lumina and Verona. We now know, though that those two fatties are actually regular hollow Arrancar that ZP modified beforehand. So... should they go with the Numeros or just stay in Hollows even though they really aren't? Well, they aren't Gillians like the Numeros are... so I don't know where to put them now. Kangarugh22 18:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Is there actually any evidence that Grimmjow's team are actually his fraccións (fracción, fracciónes)? -- Pentasyllabic 23:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
He speaks twice; once to respond to Matsumoto's question, and again when he realized Matsumoto was still alive.
Should we add the arrancar (the one with all the clones) that was introduced in the recent filler episodes. I forgot what his name was exactly.
D.Roy, Shawlong, etc. They said they are Adjuchas in Chapter 285, i thot they we're gillian tho... They said they were predestined to only be Adjuchas not heightened Gillian ( 24.205.190.225 06:37, 28 July 2007 (UTC))
So Ilforte was an adjuchas-class menos before becoming an arrancar, and Szayel Aporro Grantz said he was a lower class of menos than his before becoming an arrancar. Does it means that Szayel was a Vastolorde? He do look very humanoid.
I think we shoul restore the page about Nell, what do you think?
Basically, do we think he's worth adding? On the one hand, he's a filler character, but he does seem to have a reasonable degree of weight in the story to at least get a mention. And if so, should he be placed under the Numeros category? Other? - SilverBelial 00:36, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Episode 137 will be the last filler, so can anyone get an anime picture of Luppi and Margera when 138 and 139 is out? - Hartebeest
I deleted the small article about the Exequias Leader, because he doesn't have a name. If he deserve and article, then the Old Man and Black Guy deserve one too, I'm surprised that no one had noticed this, especially Someguy0830 and Sephiroth BCR, who almost classified everything change I made unconstructive, including the article about the 2 unnamed Espadas. If you wish to restore it, post here or on my talk page first.
I just checked ANN and it seems the two arrancarr with Pratos are named Menic and Arcdagger..but I can't tell which one is which... RedEyesMetal 18:57, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
While I feel "the filler Arrancar" deserves to be mentioned, there's a difference between this case and the one with the Exequias leader. With the Exequias leader, there's only one and you can clearly differentiate him from the rest of the Exequias; with unamed arrancar, however, it's not as easy to pull off such a thing. There are more than one filler arrancar, and a hell of a lot more unamed arrancar in general. I won't remove him for now, and instead try and add on to his descrition.
As for the minor hollows, we shouldn't be adding them to the list solely because they have a name. Hexapodus has one sentence to his decription (exclduing the note about his purifaction), and the only real reason I can think of as to why he's on the list is because he has a name. According to Wikipedia:Notability, articles should cover notable information, not providing excessive fan service. // DecaimientoPoético 17:13, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
It isn't important to include that a character is deceased while listing them because it contains spoilers. You can say that they died in their own page, but it can be ruined for people like me who are just looking up their names. Not everyone reads the manga. 209.91.61.223 18:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
so isn't this a characterlist? List_of_extraterrestrials_in_Dragon_Ball do you see any deceased tags on them? no because the solely purpose of pages like these are to give information about the characters. it's not a "which-persons-are-deceased-and-which-not"-page. other examples List_of_minor_characters_in_One_Piece and List_of_followers_of_the_Earl_of_Millennium. in fact almost all of the anime/manga character pages don't have those deceased tags to avoid matters like i described above. you're obviously right about the fact that wikipedia isn't a democracy. but we _are_ the ones with better arguments. you just fail to see that there are problems attached to those deceased -tags. Twsl 10:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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Why has Yammy's picture been removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.220.116 ( talk) 13:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Why do some of the espada have their own page but other's don't? I know that Arorino (I don't have the page open, excuse the spelling) used to have his own page, but now he doesn't. I can understand the espada that have only been very briefly shown, but I think a major character that was involved with [Spoiler]'s possible death deserves his own page. SoulReaverDan 23:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Why is the basis for having their own page based on how active they are in the story valid when not everyone is at the same place in the story. Furthermore if they are at the place in the story where they are prevalent, they would have a greater knowledge of the character than if they where further back in the story. The reasoning for getting their own page needs some work. -- 130.156.138.46 ( talk) 22:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Should we add a new image of Luppi from the anime? I think we should but tell me your opinion.
Thanks for your response —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.19.12.96 ( talk) 21:45, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
It's me again, I think que should add a new image of Wonderwice From the anime too. 193.153.197.193 ( talk)
i tought Arturo Plateado name was Altoro Plateado so wich is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Revan376 ( talk • contribs) 14:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I just saw the cover of the new chapter. Before I go on a renaming rampage can anyone verify if this is the real deal? Twsl 07:00, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
It's still Nell; the second L is attached to the bottom of the N. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.70.34 ( talk) 18:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC) Edit: I just changed it back to Nell. PLEASE don't revert it, because that is how her name is spelled. Or at least wait until the chapter shows up.
Is it possible we could switch back to the old one? Because that new image looks really...weird. Either that, or we can have to images of her child form and her adult from combined into one image. see Grand Fisher's image and you know what I'm talking about.. RedEyesMetal 11:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
While I was reading the previous topic, I was wondering, is there ever decided to use only released or only non-released pictures to illustrate the members of the Espada? Somebody recently changed the picture of Luppi to a released version. I actually think that the non-released version of the Espada can hold some relevance as well. In Luppi's case he doesn't change that much, but (for example) Aaroniro does. The current article consists of released/non-released arrancar mixed together (well actually Luppi is the only one in a released state). Question 1: could we change that to just one type for the consistency? Question 2: Could we "merge" two pictures together like the Grandfisher picture? I'd prefer a merge. Of course this doesn't apply for all the arrancar, but just the Espada that have an own picture at the moment. The "gillian 5" etc. should be left alone since they're minor characters. I'd like to hear your thoughts please =) Twsl 15:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Even though the scantilation is probably one day away, you should still not post speculation. Nell does not have a zanpakuto in that picture, and we don't know what number she was. 75.0.189.185 23:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Regardless of how she was made Nel is clearly no longer an Espada. She is even fighting against Aizen. I propose she be moved to 'Other'.
I can't help but think, given how much time has been spent on her of late, that Nell deserves her own page---at least, if Ulquiorra and Grimmjow do. Corbmobile 23:34, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Wait until the end of her fight with Nnoitra, then ask again.
unsigned comment added by 71.243.92.78 ( talk) 01:27, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I dunno...I think she has enough "character" to herself already that merits her own page. But, thats my opinion anyways. —Preceding
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I agree she has much information for a page of her own. ( Speaker180 18:09, 14 October 2007 (UTC))
We know alot more about her than we do some of the other guys, like Nnoitra. That alone deserves a page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.24.125 ( talk) 02:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Strictly speaking, virtually none of the Bleach characters "deserve" their own pages due to failure of the WP:NOTABILITY guidelines. – Gunslinger47 02:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, if we did that the pages of intros would be way too long. Anyways, I think next chapter would be perfect for her page. More info on the Zanpaktou, her released form and description of appearance and whatnot. And if it isn't enough you could go alittle more in depth with the information. Raf 09:37, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to add an image of adult Nel but as there are no official colored images I wanted to add an image like shown below. Is it not allowed to use colored images that resembles the same colors as the original? Or are we only allowed to use strictly official colored images? Is there some kind of policy regarding this? Thanks =) Twsl 10:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
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