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Hindu Temple - Nebraska I would think if a state has a major temple it should be listed, at least 1 per state for the list if they have one, and then additional prominent ones. The Temple in Omaha,NE would be a prominent one for the region there as an example. I'm not good at adding to lists so hoping someone else that is would like to take this on. 96.31.177.52 ( talk) 08:29, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
The Hindu Temple in Huntsville, Alabama is not listed. You can verify its existance at the website: http://www.hccna.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.186.154.210 ( talk) 20:59, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Given that Wikipedia is not a directory, this page really should be trimmed back. Maybe there should be a notability requirement for temples on this list, such that only those with either a citation or an existing Wiki article should be added? PohranicniStraze ( talk) 18:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
I visited this article and began a lede stating what it is, a list of Hindu temples. This is opposed stridently by editor User:Ram1751 who wishes for it not to include a lede, and has twice deleted a lede, reverting the article to be a historical account of some guy talking in 1880: "Following his famous speech at the Parliament of the World's Religions in Chicago, Swami Vivekananda established Vedanta Societies in New York and San Francisco in the 1890s." They have also visited my talk page to threaten me being blocked. I gather they think that was really a "famous" speech (maybe it was in some circles). But this is a list-article of Hindu temples in the U.S., like there exists a List of Baptist churches in the United States, a List of Methodist churches in the United States, and other lists itemized on Template:Lists of religious worship places in the United States, and history of some speech etc is secondary, is not the lede for this topic. Really I think they are just battling against my separate suggesting on this Talk page that the list-article should be limited to notable temples and that it should omit completely unnotable ones. I don't really believe anyone can oppose having a lede. They just want to draw the line and battle, it somewhat appears to me. Okay fine, let's involve some others; I will start an RFC. -- Doncram ( talk) 07:00, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Please comment: should this list-article start with a wp:lede describing it as a list of notable Hindu temples in the U.S.? And should the list-article include any and every temple, no matter how non-notable, upon any editor's wish for mention of items having no known mention in reliable sources? -- Doncram ( talk) 07:04, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
I just want to make sure there is no confusion regarding the issue #1. The history of Hinduism in the U.S. is not considered a lead in the formulation of the issue (even though this history is located before any section). @ Apollo1203: and @ PinkElixir:, please inform us about how you understood the issue, because I am considering requesting a cancellation of this RfC, because it is unclear. To put it in another way, issue #1 is whether a history of hinduism in the US is an acceptable lead for this list. Make sure you look at this history at the start of the article and consider that it duplicates Hinduism_in_the_United_States#History before making a judgment. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 04:11, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Regarding issue #2, notability of individual temple might be optional, but verifiability is not optional. At the least, there should be some verifiable evidence in a reliable source accessible on the internet or libraries that the temple is a genuine location where people actually meet. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 04:21, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
I am not sure what could be a history of Hindu temples that is not an important part of the history of Hinduism, but I know that what we have now is more like a history of Hinduism. It starts by mentioning the speech of some guys, it mentions yoga teaching (and teaching is not about temples per se, in fact yoga can be taught in any other location), etc. Religious texts are often controversial and they must be located where they fit so that we minimize the effort to obtain neutrality, accuracy, etc. In fact, now it becomes clear to me what the lead should be about. It should explain what the list contains. No history is needed. The history of temples is too tightly connected with the history of Hinduism, in fact, it is an important aspect of it, especially if you mentions speeches, etc. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 05:18, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
I propose to close this RfC, because the question asked is now obsolete and a few points have been clarified. In particular, three persons out of five supported that verifiability in reliable sources is sufficient for inclusion in the list and I have no strong opinion against it, so it is almost four persons. This does not prevent anyone from creating another RfC. I suggest to address a single issue at a time and to discuss in the talk page the statement of the RfC before announcing it. If no one object, I will simply remove the RfC tag. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 18:35, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
No objections - please close it. Thank you! Ram1751 ( talk) 20:55, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
List articles are intended for navigation. Most entries should have Wikipedia articles.
Entries which do not have Wikipedia articles must have third-party citations. Citations to the organization's website are not sufficient. We should only include entries that might be notable enough for an article. This is indicated by the existence of third-party citations.
I have cleaned out the uncited entries; however the self-cited ones should either be cited to third-party citations or removed as well. Skyerise ( talk) 12:21, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
@ Skyerise: seems like this list is a little different than the canadian hindu temple list or other similar lists. The Hari Om Radha Krishna temple does not have its own wiki page so I now see that it does not meet that qualification. I'm also assuming a link to an incident about a recent burglary at this temple would not be considered a sufficient third party source per WP:LISTORG correct? (only third party link that I could find, but there are several publications citing the incident). Unfortunate that certain places get left off, but ultimately, appreciate the efforts to keep this list streamlined! Schwinnspeed ( talk) 15:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hindu Temple - Nebraska I would think if a state has a major temple it should be listed, at least 1 per state for the list if they have one, and then additional prominent ones. The Temple in Omaha,NE would be a prominent one for the region there as an example. I'm not good at adding to lists so hoping someone else that is would like to take this on. 96.31.177.52 ( talk) 08:29, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
The Hindu Temple in Huntsville, Alabama is not listed. You can verify its existance at the website: http://www.hccna.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.186.154.210 ( talk) 20:59, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Given that Wikipedia is not a directory, this page really should be trimmed back. Maybe there should be a notability requirement for temples on this list, such that only those with either a citation or an existing Wiki article should be added? PohranicniStraze ( talk) 18:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
I visited this article and began a lede stating what it is, a list of Hindu temples. This is opposed stridently by editor User:Ram1751 who wishes for it not to include a lede, and has twice deleted a lede, reverting the article to be a historical account of some guy talking in 1880: "Following his famous speech at the Parliament of the World's Religions in Chicago, Swami Vivekananda established Vedanta Societies in New York and San Francisco in the 1890s." They have also visited my talk page to threaten me being blocked. I gather they think that was really a "famous" speech (maybe it was in some circles). But this is a list-article of Hindu temples in the U.S., like there exists a List of Baptist churches in the United States, a List of Methodist churches in the United States, and other lists itemized on Template:Lists of religious worship places in the United States, and history of some speech etc is secondary, is not the lede for this topic. Really I think they are just battling against my separate suggesting on this Talk page that the list-article should be limited to notable temples and that it should omit completely unnotable ones. I don't really believe anyone can oppose having a lede. They just want to draw the line and battle, it somewhat appears to me. Okay fine, let's involve some others; I will start an RFC. -- Doncram ( talk) 07:00, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Please comment: should this list-article start with a wp:lede describing it as a list of notable Hindu temples in the U.S.? And should the list-article include any and every temple, no matter how non-notable, upon any editor's wish for mention of items having no known mention in reliable sources? -- Doncram ( talk) 07:04, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
I just want to make sure there is no confusion regarding the issue #1. The history of Hinduism in the U.S. is not considered a lead in the formulation of the issue (even though this history is located before any section). @ Apollo1203: and @ PinkElixir:, please inform us about how you understood the issue, because I am considering requesting a cancellation of this RfC, because it is unclear. To put it in another way, issue #1 is whether a history of hinduism in the US is an acceptable lead for this list. Make sure you look at this history at the start of the article and consider that it duplicates Hinduism_in_the_United_States#History before making a judgment. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 04:11, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Regarding issue #2, notability of individual temple might be optional, but verifiability is not optional. At the least, there should be some verifiable evidence in a reliable source accessible on the internet or libraries that the temple is a genuine location where people actually meet. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 04:21, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
I am not sure what could be a history of Hindu temples that is not an important part of the history of Hinduism, but I know that what we have now is more like a history of Hinduism. It starts by mentioning the speech of some guys, it mentions yoga teaching (and teaching is not about temples per se, in fact yoga can be taught in any other location), etc. Religious texts are often controversial and they must be located where they fit so that we minimize the effort to obtain neutrality, accuracy, etc. In fact, now it becomes clear to me what the lead should be about. It should explain what the list contains. No history is needed. The history of temples is too tightly connected with the history of Hinduism, in fact, it is an important aspect of it, especially if you mentions speeches, etc. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 05:18, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
I propose to close this RfC, because the question asked is now obsolete and a few points have been clarified. In particular, three persons out of five supported that verifiability in reliable sources is sufficient for inclusion in the list and I have no strong opinion against it, so it is almost four persons. This does not prevent anyone from creating another RfC. I suggest to address a single issue at a time and to discuss in the talk page the statement of the RfC before announcing it. If no one object, I will simply remove the RfC tag. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 18:35, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
No objections - please close it. Thank you! Ram1751 ( talk) 20:55, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
List articles are intended for navigation. Most entries should have Wikipedia articles.
Entries which do not have Wikipedia articles must have third-party citations. Citations to the organization's website are not sufficient. We should only include entries that might be notable enough for an article. This is indicated by the existence of third-party citations.
I have cleaned out the uncited entries; however the self-cited ones should either be cited to third-party citations or removed as well. Skyerise ( talk) 12:21, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
@ Skyerise: seems like this list is a little different than the canadian hindu temple list or other similar lists. The Hari Om Radha Krishna temple does not have its own wiki page so I now see that it does not meet that qualification. I'm also assuming a link to an incident about a recent burglary at this temple would not be considered a sufficient third party source per WP:LISTORG correct? (only third party link that I could find, but there are several publications citing the incident). Unfortunate that certain places get left off, but ultimately, appreciate the efforts to keep this list streamlined! Schwinnspeed ( talk) 15:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)