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List of Gobots characters only has "See Main article Leader-1". Probably needs to be parred down to the same level of content as the rest of Gobot charactes.
Hasteur (
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22:21, 3 December 2016 (UTC)reply
I changed the heading. The article needs so much work, I moved it into Drafts where it can be sorted out.
CaroleHenson Before you sweep things under the rug, consider the following:
This article has existed since 2013, therefore it's completely inappropriate to send this to Draft namespace as either new content or AFC content.
The only content in this article is "Main article Leader-1". With your action you've created a redirect loop of Leader-1 redirecting to this article making it a significant loss of content. Please remember the
First Pillar: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. because of your actions, you've effectively cloaked a significant corpus of content in the dark unwatched corners of the system.
Moving to draft space doesn't fix the problem it only makes you the lead bosun in charge of organizing deck chairs on the Titanic. Have you actually worked with AFC or Draft Namespace before? Do you know how often things actually get paid attention to in Draft namespace? Hint: "Out of sight, out of mind"
If and when the merge has finished, I would wager a good amount that the Draft namespace article gets deleted. If that does, we will have violated the CC licence as the history will no longer be available.
I do think we need to trim down the content to the same level, but shunting it off to Draft namespace is only going to cause more problems.
Hasteur (
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23:44, 4 December 2016 (UTC)reply
See my comment at
Talk:Leader-1 about the recent movement from a redirect page. By the way, no content is lost if it goes to draft mode. It needed work. I stand by that. The fact that instead of trying to work to make it a better article, you complain, says it all to me. For what it's worth, others have worked to make it better articles, and I have stayed right there with them and done at least 50% of the work. And, I mentioned in several places, including your talk page, that I would be there to help.--CaroleHenson(talk)23:49, 4 December 2016 (UTC)reply
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List of Gobots characters only has "See Main article Leader-1". Probably needs to be parred down to the same level of content as the rest of Gobot charactes.
Hasteur (
talk)
22:21, 3 December 2016 (UTC)reply
I changed the heading. The article needs so much work, I moved it into Drafts where it can be sorted out.
CaroleHenson Before you sweep things under the rug, consider the following:
This article has existed since 2013, therefore it's completely inappropriate to send this to Draft namespace as either new content or AFC content.
The only content in this article is "Main article Leader-1". With your action you've created a redirect loop of Leader-1 redirecting to this article making it a significant loss of content. Please remember the
First Pillar: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. because of your actions, you've effectively cloaked a significant corpus of content in the dark unwatched corners of the system.
Moving to draft space doesn't fix the problem it only makes you the lead bosun in charge of organizing deck chairs on the Titanic. Have you actually worked with AFC or Draft Namespace before? Do you know how often things actually get paid attention to in Draft namespace? Hint: "Out of sight, out of mind"
If and when the merge has finished, I would wager a good amount that the Draft namespace article gets deleted. If that does, we will have violated the CC licence as the history will no longer be available.
I do think we need to trim down the content to the same level, but shunting it off to Draft namespace is only going to cause more problems.
Hasteur (
talk)
23:44, 4 December 2016 (UTC)reply
See my comment at
Talk:Leader-1 about the recent movement from a redirect page. By the way, no content is lost if it goes to draft mode. It needed work. I stand by that. The fact that instead of trying to work to make it a better article, you complain, says it all to me. For what it's worth, others have worked to make it better articles, and I have stayed right there with them and done at least 50% of the work. And, I mentioned in several places, including your talk page, that I would be there to help.--CaroleHenson(talk)23:49, 4 December 2016 (UTC)reply