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No reason to go around removing infoboxes, honestly. And the map is only for a portion of the history; other than the Merovingians in the family tree, it's a much more comprehensive overview. Altanner1991 ( talk) 06:01, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
( edit conflict)What should the lead image be? Since February 2021 it's been the map of the Verdun treaty, until just recently when it was replaced by the coat of arms in an Infobox. I've reinstated the map for now, as the Infobox really didn't do a good job of summarizing the article; given the topic, I don't think any Infobox could, it's too diverse.
The map of the Verdun treaty tri-partite division is at least legible and not too busy, and can be taken in at a glance. It's not ideal, because it doesn't depict monarchs directly, although it sets the stage for all the monarchs to come; but it's hard to capture over a millennium of monarchy and monarchs in a single image. What about an allegory? something like File:Louis XVIII relevant la France.jpg, or File:Généalogie des Bourbons (Sylvain Bonnet, 1688).jpg. I don't think that would be ideal, either; maybe there just isn't a good image available. Perhaps we could construct a collage of four to six of the most important monarchs spanning the centuries; that might work better than anything else that occurs to me at the moment. Mathglot ( talk) 06:18, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
@ Srnec: noticed your recent edit at the article. Not sure if you meant to remove the collage image from the lead as well; it was present in the previous version (as amended by Altanner) and you didn't say anything about it in the edit summary. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 18:08, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
It can be said that any map can be placed in any stage of the chronology, so I am not sure why that map would be highlighted per WP:BALANCE. Perhaps some feel it is sufficiently more important than other stages in French history, but I disagree; I feel it is no more noteworthy than the map of France during Napoleon's time or perhaps the Hundred Years War, and so it would not be "balanced" to only have that map. Regards, Altanner1991 ( talk) 03:46, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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No reason to go around removing infoboxes, honestly. And the map is only for a portion of the history; other than the Merovingians in the family tree, it's a much more comprehensive overview. Altanner1991 ( talk) 06:01, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
( edit conflict)What should the lead image be? Since February 2021 it's been the map of the Verdun treaty, until just recently when it was replaced by the coat of arms in an Infobox. I've reinstated the map for now, as the Infobox really didn't do a good job of summarizing the article; given the topic, I don't think any Infobox could, it's too diverse.
The map of the Verdun treaty tri-partite division is at least legible and not too busy, and can be taken in at a glance. It's not ideal, because it doesn't depict monarchs directly, although it sets the stage for all the monarchs to come; but it's hard to capture over a millennium of monarchy and monarchs in a single image. What about an allegory? something like File:Louis XVIII relevant la France.jpg, or File:Généalogie des Bourbons (Sylvain Bonnet, 1688).jpg. I don't think that would be ideal, either; maybe there just isn't a good image available. Perhaps we could construct a collage of four to six of the most important monarchs spanning the centuries; that might work better than anything else that occurs to me at the moment. Mathglot ( talk) 06:18, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
@ Srnec: noticed your recent edit at the article. Not sure if you meant to remove the collage image from the lead as well; it was present in the previous version (as amended by Altanner) and you didn't say anything about it in the edit summary. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 18:08, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
It can be said that any map can be placed in any stage of the chronology, so I am not sure why that map would be highlighted per WP:BALANCE. Perhaps some feel it is sufficiently more important than other stages in French history, but I disagree; I feel it is no more noteworthy than the map of France during Napoleon's time or perhaps the Hundred Years War, and so it would not be "balanced" to only have that map. Regards, Altanner1991 ( talk) 03:46, 19 August 2022 (UTC)