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The following could be a manual of style for List of Freemasons.
We have established two requirements for inclusion in the list.
* [[name]] (date1–date2), text.<citations>
Numerous notable Freemasons, especially in the United Kingdom, are entitled to display post-nominal letters. Within List of Freemasons these should be listed after the comma following the vital dates, and before the primary text. The templates Template:Post-nominals, Template:Post-nominals/AUS, Template:Post-nominals/CAN, Template:Post-nominals/GBR, or Template:Post-nominals/NZL should be used as applicable.
This should not be a large paragraph. It should first include why the person is/was notable, and secondly things that are of specific relevance to Masonic membership.
Short and to the point. We do not need every reason the person is notable. Give the "most notable" reason they are notable. For example, in the case of Theodore Roosevelt simply stating 26th President of the United States is sufficient. We do not need U.S. Cavalry Officer, Medal of Honor recipient, Assistant Secretary of the Navy, 33rd Governor of New York, 25th Vice President of the United States, and 26th President of the United States.
When possible, give the names and locations of any known lodge memberships. If known, give the dates, lodge name, and location of when he received his Masonic Degrees. Also, give any significant Masonic accomplishments such as being the Grand Master of a state, etc.
There are situations where some people are known by more than one name or title. This caused the need for a "see also" entry in the list. For exanple, Voltaire's real name was François-Marie Arouet. In this example, the main entry in the list should be under V for Voltaire, and there should be a listing under A that states "François-Marie Arouet (see Voltaire)".
When this is needed the editors of the list will use their best judgement as to which name should be the main entry and which should have the "see also" note. A cue as to which should be which can be taken from disambiguation of the person's main article. For example if a person were to search for François-Marie Arouet on Wikpedia they would automatically be directed to the Voltaire article.
Technically, this is achieved by adding an anchor to name of the the main listing using span tags...
and creating a link in the see also entry as such...
Note that it is a good idea to use the full wiki link including article name.
Members of the British Peerage (and other countries for that matter) should be alphabetized as such:
Rank | Example | Alphabetized By | See also |
---|---|---|---|
King | King George VI | G for George | None |
Prince | Prince Michael of Kent | M for Michael, not K for Kent nor W for Windsor | None |
Duke | Thomas Howard, 4th Duke of Norfolk | N for Norfolk, not T for Thomas nor H for Howard | Under surname |
Marquess | Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 7th Marquess of Salisbury | G for Gascoyne-Cecil, not R for Robert nor S for Salisbury | Under location (Salisbury) |
Earl | Robert Capell, 10th Earl of Essex | C for Capell, not R for Robert nor E for Essex]] | Under location (Esssex) |
Viscount | William Lamb, 2nd Viscount Melbourne | L for Lamb, not W for William nor M for Melbourne | Under location (Melbourne) |
Baron | Peter Maxwell, 28th Baron de Ros | M for Maxwell not P for Peter nor R for Ros | none |
Note that suitable See Also links should be added when applicable. For example, Prince Michael of Kent should have his main listing under M, could have a see also link under K.
Also, many peers and royals have multiple titles. For example, Prince William (who is not a Mason but should be) is also the Duke of Cambridge, the Earl of Strathearn, and the Baron Carrickfergus. These people should be listed under their senior-most rank, in this case Prince.
That's my two cents. Eric Cable | Talk 12:59, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
According to an article in the Telegraph and other newspapers, "A secret archive containing the names of two million Freemasons has been made public for the first time on the genealogy site Ancestry."
Membership records from 1733 to 1923 -- mainly in Britain and the British Empire --- have been digitised and published on the family history website Ancestry, the company said.
See: Was Titanic inquiry scuppered by the Freemasons? Esowteric+ Talk 17:02, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Enockah bp Enockackah bp ( talk) 22:26, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
I have gone all the way through the letter V in Denslow and am adding the following names all contained therein:
Eric Cable | Talk 15:26, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Having two pages for names does not help searching, is it not possible to search with a browser in two pages. If the list does grow two much, it could be better to find another way of reducing the page size.
Possible solutions to page size are:
El Hoy ( talk) 14:14, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, most humbly.I could have not looked correctly.Many thank yous . 87.188.189.142 ( talk) 22:40, 22 July 2019 (UTC)Razu
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The following could be a manual of style for List of Freemasons.
We have established two requirements for inclusion in the list.
* [[name]] (date1–date2), text.<citations>
Numerous notable Freemasons, especially in the United Kingdom, are entitled to display post-nominal letters. Within List of Freemasons these should be listed after the comma following the vital dates, and before the primary text. The templates Template:Post-nominals, Template:Post-nominals/AUS, Template:Post-nominals/CAN, Template:Post-nominals/GBR, or Template:Post-nominals/NZL should be used as applicable.
This should not be a large paragraph. It should first include why the person is/was notable, and secondly things that are of specific relevance to Masonic membership.
Short and to the point. We do not need every reason the person is notable. Give the "most notable" reason they are notable. For example, in the case of Theodore Roosevelt simply stating 26th President of the United States is sufficient. We do not need U.S. Cavalry Officer, Medal of Honor recipient, Assistant Secretary of the Navy, 33rd Governor of New York, 25th Vice President of the United States, and 26th President of the United States.
When possible, give the names and locations of any known lodge memberships. If known, give the dates, lodge name, and location of when he received his Masonic Degrees. Also, give any significant Masonic accomplishments such as being the Grand Master of a state, etc.
There are situations where some people are known by more than one name or title. This caused the need for a "see also" entry in the list. For exanple, Voltaire's real name was François-Marie Arouet. In this example, the main entry in the list should be under V for Voltaire, and there should be a listing under A that states "François-Marie Arouet (see Voltaire)".
When this is needed the editors of the list will use their best judgement as to which name should be the main entry and which should have the "see also" note. A cue as to which should be which can be taken from disambiguation of the person's main article. For example if a person were to search for François-Marie Arouet on Wikpedia they would automatically be directed to the Voltaire article.
Technically, this is achieved by adding an anchor to name of the the main listing using span tags...
and creating a link in the see also entry as such...
Note that it is a good idea to use the full wiki link including article name.
Members of the British Peerage (and other countries for that matter) should be alphabetized as such:
Rank | Example | Alphabetized By | See also |
---|---|---|---|
King | King George VI | G for George | None |
Prince | Prince Michael of Kent | M for Michael, not K for Kent nor W for Windsor | None |
Duke | Thomas Howard, 4th Duke of Norfolk | N for Norfolk, not T for Thomas nor H for Howard | Under surname |
Marquess | Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 7th Marquess of Salisbury | G for Gascoyne-Cecil, not R for Robert nor S for Salisbury | Under location (Salisbury) |
Earl | Robert Capell, 10th Earl of Essex | C for Capell, not R for Robert nor E for Essex]] | Under location (Esssex) |
Viscount | William Lamb, 2nd Viscount Melbourne | L for Lamb, not W for William nor M for Melbourne | Under location (Melbourne) |
Baron | Peter Maxwell, 28th Baron de Ros | M for Maxwell not P for Peter nor R for Ros | none |
Note that suitable See Also links should be added when applicable. For example, Prince Michael of Kent should have his main listing under M, could have a see also link under K.
Also, many peers and royals have multiple titles. For example, Prince William (who is not a Mason but should be) is also the Duke of Cambridge, the Earl of Strathearn, and the Baron Carrickfergus. These people should be listed under their senior-most rank, in this case Prince.
That's my two cents. Eric Cable | Talk 12:59, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
According to an article in the Telegraph and other newspapers, "A secret archive containing the names of two million Freemasons has been made public for the first time on the genealogy site Ancestry."
Membership records from 1733 to 1923 -- mainly in Britain and the British Empire --- have been digitised and published on the family history website Ancestry, the company said.
See: Was Titanic inquiry scuppered by the Freemasons? Esowteric+ Talk 17:02, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Enockah bp Enockackah bp ( talk) 22:26, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
I have gone all the way through the letter V in Denslow and am adding the following names all contained therein:
Eric Cable | Talk 15:26, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Having two pages for names does not help searching, is it not possible to search with a browser in two pages. If the list does grow two much, it could be better to find another way of reducing the page size.
Possible solutions to page size are:
El Hoy ( talk) 14:14, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, most humbly.I could have not looked correctly.Many thank yous . 87.188.189.142 ( talk) 22:40, 22 July 2019 (UTC)Razu